I posted this in the general forum but got no replies. Is there any way to use direct push without it turning wifi on all the time? Every time I make a phone call or loose reception wifi switches itself on. It is extremely annoying. I am constantly turning it off and almost every time i take my phone out of my pocket wifi is back on. Does anyone else get this? Can I tell direct push to only use the cellular data connection? I know it is direct push because if I enable it the problem goes away. Please help!
Am I seriously the only one with this problem? Cause its drivin me nuts. When I turn wifi off, I want it to stay off. No suggestions?
push should automatically alternate between data and wifi. it gives wifi priority before data.
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I posted this in the general forum but got no replies. Is there any way to use direct push without it turning wifi on all the time? Every time I make a phone call or loose reception wifi switches itself on. It is extremely annoying. I am constantly turning it off and almost every time i take my phone out of my pocket wifi is back on. Does anyone else get this? Can I tell direct push to only use the cellular data connection? I know it is direct push because if I enable it the problem goes away. Please help!
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What what what? Your wifi turns on auto? Never heard such thing neither ever happened to me. Seems too odd since in the kaiser wifi only turns on when you activate via key combo or in the control panel! Don't u mean ur data conn is always switching on? Maybe it's cause of the rom you have!
uh use your imagination dude.
It automatically goes to wifi if it's on.
ChumleyEx, That's not the issue here.
The issue is that WiFi automatically turns on after a call, when it was OFF beforehand. JKingDev confused the issue in his OP.
The problem is not exclusive to the Kaiser either. My HTC Vox (WinMo 6.1 Standard) is doing the same thing.
Until reading this thread, I hadn't made the relationship between push activesync email and wifi being automatically turned on after a call. I still have yet to confirm that the issue exists without Push ActiveSync enabled.
One further peice of information - it only seems to be an issue after WiFi has been manually turned on at some stage of the phone's current power-on session.
i.e. If I reboot the phone and don't turn WiFi on manually, I can make/receive calls without Wifi turning on automatically.
Once I turn wifi on then off again, then make/receive a call, Wifi will automatically turn on after the call.
And it's very inconsistent as well, which makes this doubly frustrating. For example, I've just tried to replicate the issue using my examples above, and it's not happening now :-\
Perhaps it's only an issue after calls longer that 'x' seconds? Max call-time I tested was 13secs.
Phrak said:
Perhaps it's only an issue after calls longer that 'x' seconds? Max call-time I tested was 13secs.
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Are you on EDGE or 3G?
On EDGE while in a call the data will be put on hold. That could mean that if your call is long enough the push connection will timeout, and it will try to use Wifi to maintain connection (as the goal of push is for it to be constantly connected)?
Just thinking out loud, I've never used push myself.
Hello,
I'm experiencing the same problem since I "update" the Touchflow 3D with a communications tab. Before that I didn't noticed thi.
Symptom are exactly from the post here upper.
* When I'm in a call after few seconds.
* I used Exchange ActiveSync
* Diamond last official ROM
* just added : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432528
Since them Wifi auto on and really anoying when I'm uing my bluetooth headset.
André
I get this issue with the stock orange UK 6.1 ROM.... any ideas yet?
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Hi - ive tried looking through the threads but cant find anything, so apologies if im repeating something all ready asked..
Ive been noticing on recent phone bills that im getting charged for gprs calls that i definatly havnt been making but my phone company insists that i have. After further investigating, ive seen that if im using wifi, and the phone turns to standby, when it switches back on gprs has been activated and is running underneath wifi.. and this is where (i think) my call charges have been coming from...( i hope that makes sense!)
Is this a common problem with the stellar/kaiser/tilt or just a problem with this individual unit - also, if it is a common problem is there anyway in which i can stop it happening?
I can understand where it is coming from.
When you go into standby (ie turn off the screen), the phone turns WiFi off to save battery. This makes sense, but imho WM is still too stupid to understand the concept of money. Result is that when it tries to continue doing whatever it was doing it will open a new connection and it's first choice is the GPRS/HSDPA connection.
As far as I am aware, the options to stop this from happening again are....
1) Stop WiFi from turning itself off when the phone goes into standby. I'd do this using KaiserTweak - the Option is under "Data -> Wifi standby mode"
2) Disable the GPRS connections so it can't connect. One way is to remove the password so it asks before it connects. There's also a tool on here somewhere that allows you to quickly enable and disable connections. Here looked promising, posts a link to modaco
Hope that helps.
I'm sure this has been covered, and I vaguely remember having this problem in the past, but my search-fu is failing me...
Suddenly, when on a call (I have my Kaiser configured to drop my data connection when making / receiving a call), my WiFi turns on and searches for an AP.
I turn it off, make another call, and the next thing I know it's on again and searching...
How do I configure my Kaiser so it won't turn on WiFi automatically?
Im having this very same issue! I think what is going on is the phone searching for data connection when a call cuts it off. What I mean is im using the phone on ATT so i can only use edge, so if i have lets say parlingo open using data and a call comes in it cuts off the connection thus the program switching on my wifi as an alterior method. Still very annoying and something i dont want happening..
Hi. I've bought my first Android device, a HTC G1 Dream. I've gained root access, installed the last Cyanogen release (with Android 1.6), RA-1.2.3.
What I've noticed is a strange behavior, quite different from the one I had with my BlackBerry Bold.
When I'm home I enable wifi, to save some datas from my (limited) contract. It works and I've set not to disable wifi when in standby. It works. But as soon as I go out (and the wifi coverage finishes), it doesn't re-enable UMTS data until I awake it from the standby manually.
It's quite annoying...is there a way to change this kind of behavior?
Thank you very much!
Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
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Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
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When I connect via Wifi, it disconnects from edge, gprs or umts. And doesn't reconnect when the wifi coverage ends (unless I "re-awake" the phone,pushing the menu button)
from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
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from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
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Yes, I cannot see the icon as soon as I wake up it. Then, in some seconds, it reconnects. More, I can see it's not just a "icon" issue because my K9-mail stops collecting my mailboxes when that situation happen.
Have you guys have the same problem?tryed all the radios on the market..they stream perfectly on wifi ,but when i lock the screen it just stops streaming.If i turn the screen back starts as normal.Any idea how to get over this?
No problem for me with lastFM.
This should work ... but it doesn't
Just in case you haven't tried - in the settings menu, Wireless and Networks, Wi-Fi settings, then press menu again and find 'Advanced'. Here lives 'Wi Fi sleep policy'. It looks promising, the obvious move is to set this to 'Never'.
But it doesn't solve the problem. Like you I'm finding that it is a problem with all radio streamers, some worse than others. If I turn wireless off and use 3G its fine.
Thanks for posting the issue. I thought I was the only one.
No problems with TuneWiki over WiFi and 3G...
i find that even if you set the wifi never to sleep it still does. i frequently use aftp to transfer movies and stuff to my phone over my lan, so ill set it to transfer like 3 gigs of stuff and go to bed, even though its set never to sleep the socket still gets closed at some point at night. so id say your problem lies with wifi sleeping.
also some online radios stop automatically after a certain amount of time incase you arent listening anymore to save bandwithd
Maybe its in the app settings. You didnt specify which app it was also...
This might help
When you connect Wi-Fi make sure to turn off your cellular network. N1 has this weird problem where in as soon as screen is off, it drops the wi-fi connection and goes on to cellular network.
So if you switch off ur cellular network it maintains its Wi-Fi connection even when the screen is off.
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Maybe its in the app settings. You didnt specify which app it was also...
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i use mainly "AOnline radio" but i have tryed pretty much all from the market and all do the same. trying with the settings now..post if any change.
edit:yea still stops...strange try with gsm off and still same thing...is it there any solution to get over this thing?i just liten now with the screen on) eats the battery..it's ok but why not better?
The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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i will check droidlive myself right now...thank you for explinations..is there a way to talk with cyan and maybe he could overpass that wifi sleepy thing.
edit: also noticed if you ahve a download or something and turn the screen off goes very slow..so this problem i think really have a priority to be solved.
edit2:still stops...what would be the thing?wifi priority changed.do you have any type of settings?full app?
I'm listening to a ShoutCast stream with AOnline right now, using WiFi, screen is off. Works perfectly. Do you see this problem with other access points, too?
SLightworkaround....
If you can keep it plugged in...set the SCREEEN TO NEVER SLEEP...under settings>>>applications>>>DEVELOPMENT>>>STAY AWAKE... hope that helps!
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The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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This is the problem yes... Just try to ping your N1 while turning the screen off/on... Ping jumps up as soon as the screen is turned off...
For me Streams stop when I have a weak signal to begin with, which does not get better when turning the screen off
"KeepScreen" might help...
I have a wifi issue that is a little different from other I have read here.
Issue: When my phone screen is off, it will NOT auto-connect to saved Wifi hotspots (eg, home, office) within range, until I wake up the phone (turn on the screen).
When it is connected to the Wifi hotspot, it will keep the connections even when the screen is off. (non issue)
I have set "Keep Wifi on during Sleep" to Always, and set "Sleep mode" to off. "Power Saver" is off too. Mobile data is off (I turn it on only when I need it). I checked battery usage, and Wifi is constantly on, just that it does not connected to the saved Wifi.
My question/issue is, is it normal for the One to not auto-connect to saved Wifi hotspots within range when the screen is off?
On my old HTC EVO 3D running ICS, it will automatically connect to the same hotspots without the need to wake up the phone (turn on the screen).
My One is still using the stock Rogers firmware (1.29.631.4)
UPDATE: I found that this appears to happen only when the screen has been off for a longer time (more than a couple hours). If I have waken the screen up an hour before it entered the saved wifi range, then it seems to auto-connect fine. Need more testings.
BB88 said:
I have a wifi issue that is a little different from other I have read here.
Issue: When my phone screen is off, it will NOT auto-connect to saved Wifi hotspots (eg, home, office) within range, until I wake up the phone (turn on the screen).
When it is connected to the Wifi hotspot, it will keep the connections even when the screen is off. (non issue)
I have set "Keep Wifi on during Sleep" to Always, and set "Sleep mode" to off. "Power Saver" is off too. Mobile data is off (I turn it on only when I need it)
My question/issue is, is it normal for the One to not auto-connect to saved Wifi hotspots within range?
On my old HTC EVO 3D running ICS, it will automatically connect to the same hotspots without the need to wake up the phone (turn on the screen).
My One is still using the stock Rogers firmware (1.29.631.4)
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I do believe it is normal. It's to conserve power your phone would have to have a wakelock to connect to another network draining power. As I understand it the ONE puts the wifi into a power saving mode when it's not connected so it's not constantly draining your power while driving. Once you wake the screen it will then connect as it assumes you want it.
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I do believe it is normal. It's to conserve power your phone would have to have a wakelock to connect to another network draining power. As I understand it the ONE puts the wifi into a power saving mode when it's not connected so it's not constantly draining your power while driving. Once you wake the screen it will then connect as it assumes you want it.
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Should that be an option to turn that off, such as the "Wifi Sleep Policy" I saw from some other rom? Or the settings I mentioned above disable that behaviour already?
BB88 said:
Should that be an option to turn that off, such as the "Wifi Sleep Policy" I saw from some other rom? Or the settings I mentioned above disable that behaviour already?
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Don't think so. The wifi sleep would turn the wifi radio off which isn't happening. Oh quick thought check the network and make sure the phone is set to auto connect that would do it for sure!
nullkill said:
Don't think so. The wifi sleep would turn the wifi radio off which isn't happening. Oh quick thought check the network and make sure the phone is set to auto connect that would do it for sure!
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What do you mean by network and auto connect?
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What do you mean by network and auto connect?
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Nevermind isn't there. Maybe I'm thinking of stock android or maybe I'm thinking of another OS.
Can anyone else confirm if this behaviour is normal or not?
So if I don't wake my screen, I will never get any sync when the screen is off and I just get back into wifi range?
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Can anyone else confirm if this behaviour is normal or not?
So if I don't wake my screen, I will never get any sync when the screen is off and I just get back into wifi range?
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Go into WiFi Settings, Go to the menu and click Advanced. Change "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "Always".
WiFi will connect with screen off.
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Go into WiFi Settings, Go to the menu and click Advanced. Change "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "Always".
WiFi will connect with screen off.
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As I have indicated in my first post, this has been set to "Always" already. Are you sure that works for you?
What is the phone not doing that you want it to do? Just turn on auto sync if you want your email and FB updates to be waiting for you. Or is that not working?
Quick test. Put your phone to sleep with gmail autosync push mail on. Turn off data and only enable WiFi. Then send yourself an email from a computer, if you get a notification on your phone while it is sleeping, then it is working. Or you can place a voip call with viber or send yourself a viber text from another phone.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
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What is the phone not doing that you want it to do? Just turn on auto sync if you want your email and FB updates to be waiting for you. Or is that not working?
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It is not auto connecting to the saved Wifi networks when I go to work, or when I go home, with the screen off. I have to wake the phone (press the power button) and you can see that it will connect to the saved Wifi networks. The FB notifications and Whatsapp notifications are pushed, so they don't require auto-sync to be on.
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Quick test. Put your phone to sleep with gmail autosync push mail on. Turn off data and only enable WiFi. Then send yourself an email from a computer, if you get a notification on your phone while it is sleeping, then it is working. Or you can place a voip call with viber or send yourself a viber text from another phone.
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If my phone is already connected to the Wifi networks, putting it to sleep will NOT disconnect it from the Wifi network. It only happens when I changed from one saved network to another (home to work, or work to home) with the screen off, then it will not auto-connect. I have tested that and I'm not getting the notification in that situations. I have to wake the phone up to trigger the auto-connect.
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It is not auto connecting to the saved Wifi networks when I go to work, or when I go home, with the screen off. I have to wake the phone (press the power button) and you can see that it will connect to the saved Wifi networks. The FB notifications and Whatsapp notifications are pushed, so they don't require auto-sync to be on.
If my phone is already connected to the Wifi networks, putting it to sleep will NOT disconnect it from the Wifi network. It only happens when I changed from one saved network to another (home to work, or work to home) with the screen off, then it will not auto-connect. I have tested that and I'm not getting the notification in that situations. I have to wake the phone up to trigger the auto-connect.
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Is your wifi toggle always on? Or do you turn it off once you leave a certain network? The only way the device will auto connect to a saved network, is if the wifi toggle is already turned on before you go near a saved wifi network.
If you want a saved network to automatically turn on wifi and connect to a saved network, you will need some thing like juice defender. It teaches itself to know when you're near a saved wifi network and it will automatically turn on your wifi toggle on and connect to the saved network. Then once you leave the area or lock your device, it will automatically toggle off wifi and disconnect from the wifi network.
Sent from my HTC myTouch 4g using xda premium
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Is your wifi toggle always on? Or do you turn it off once you leave a certain network? The only way the device will auto connect to a saved network, is if the wifi toggle is already turned on before you go near a saved wifi network.
If you want a saved network to automatically turn on wifi and connect to a saved network, you will need some thing like juice defender. It teaches itself to know when you're near a saved wifi network and it will automatically turn on your wifi toggle on and connect to the saved network. Then once you leave the area or lock your device, it will automatically toggle off wifi and disconnect from the wifi network.
Sent from my HTC myTouch 4g using xda premium
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Not sure what you mean by "wifi toggle always on". My Wifi (under setting) on the phone is always on. I never turned it off. Under Power History, I can also see that Wifi is always on (un-interrupted blue bar).
I contacted HTC support, and they asked me to change the WiFi band frequency from "Auto" to "2.4GHz" and reboot the phone. It seems to have fixed the problem so far (after a couple days of testing). Although it would have been nice if they can fixed the problem properly.
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I contacted HTC support, and they asked me to change the WiFi band frequency from "Auto" to "2.4GHz" and reboot the phone. It seems to have fixed the problem so far (after a couple days of testing). Although it would have been nice if they can fixed the problem properly.
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Actually, the problem still exists.
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Actually, the problem still exists.
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Yeah, I just got the One almost a month ago and seriously thinking of returning it because of this issue. I wish I wouldn't have rooted it because since I did for some reason I can't get ADB to recognize my device. I've tried everything my noob brain can think of to fix it and the wifi issue but nothing works. I see that no other developers have a fix either as no apps or threads here give a solid solution.
I might give AT&T the money to warranty it and just get another device but I want that to be my last resort.
Personally, I think it might be an isolated hardware defect that was addressed with later devices which is why it is not as wide spread and therefore doesn't generate a need to find a workable solution.
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BTW I've flashed several of the popular roms on XDA to see if that fixed it including Viper and CM but to no avail...
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Yeah, I just got the One almost a month ago and seriously thinking of returning it because of this issue. I wish I wouldn't have rooted it because since I did for some reason I can't get ADB to recognize my device. I've tried everything my noob brain can think of to fix it and the wifi issue but nothing works. I see that no other developers have a fix either as no apps or threads here give a solid solution.
I might give AT&T the money to warranty it and just get another device but I want that to be my last resort.
Personally, I think it might be an isolated hardware defect that was addressed with later devices which is why it is not as wide spread and therefore doesn't generate a need to find a workable solution.
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BTW I've flashed several of the popular roms on XDA to see if that fixed it including Viper and CM but to no avail...
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Not sure if I have been using the phone more, or if I have flash new radio (Radio from 2.17 base - 4A.16.3250.24_10.38.1150.03L (flashable Zip) and rom (ARHD), I don't think I have this problem any more.
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Not sure if I have been using the phone more, or if I have flash new radio (Radio from 2.17 base - 4A.16.3250.24_10.38.1150.03L (flashable Zip) and rom (ARHD), I don't think I have this problem any more.
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can you flash a radio with S-on? I don' wanna try it and brick it. but I have been wanting to see if that fixes it
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can you flash a radio with S-on? I don' wanna try it and brick it. but I have been wanting to see if that fixes it
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No, I believe you have to be S-Off to do that, or else you need to flash the firmware. Have you trying reinstalling drivers or try on another computer to get ADB to recognise your phone?