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Hi,
Since Hermes and Wizard, alongside general information and development & hacking, are starting TouchFLO topics I created this one.
Allthough much work has to be done, at least the TouchFLO theme is available for WM 6 users. Since we don't have that I wonder if it somehow can be made available for WM 5 users like us.
grtx
The only thing working on my BA is the .tsk file for the dark theme.
The today plugin won't work because it's made for wm6 using the wm6 sdk (duh!).
UPDATE:
I got the dialer and wireless/connection manager running on my BA!
The problem that I lost all sounds/mic on my device. The connmanager works and the phone make calls. But I can't hear anything and nobody can hear me. There is no beeps from the fone or anysound from programs. The solution I've found is hard-reset. I'll keep trying.
You can download the files from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
The today plugin still not working.
Ok, the dialer works but smartdialing stops working after first call.
The problem with no sounds from the phone is with the connmanager. Do not install it unless you want your device to be totally silent.
I have installed both the Comm manager and dialer and I have no sound issues, all my sounds work fine!
same here, no problems with the sound.
I do have the smardial problem though.
the_scotsman said:
I have installed both the Comm manager and dialer and I have no sound issues, all my sounds work fine!
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No problems here either
Wisbar theme
Is there a black wm6 theme that will work with Wisbar 3?
I cant find one...
I will try the conn manager again (which version are you guys using?).
for the wm6 black theme for wisbar, I'm using this one: http://lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9264
touchflo ui will never be available in WM5, also it depends on the HTC touch touscreen driver, if simeone post a hacked one it will be available on the other wm6 devices, but for now no other than HTC Touch Has it. The theme and comm manager and smartdialing work just fine with my rom (slows the device a lot but work,you can not open the options of smart dialing), home today plugin is not compatible with WM5
everyone is crazy about htc touch, if you want it that bad just buy it
also not mentioned things in touch rom are the new windows live messenger (10.6.00.28.2700) and the new arcsoft mms 4.0.31.21) IA Zip(1.20.27526.0), Smart Dialing(2.5.27526.0), Sim Manager(6.13), Sim Access Profile, Adobe Reader LE, HTC Audio Manager, HTC Audio Today Plugin, (ported them all to wm5, and will include them in my next rom or as cabs). All of you are crazy about the gui stuff (which is not working well in wm5) but forget the important things
The today plugin would be nice but not really necessary. The comm manager have a better aparence and so the dialer.
My dialer displays the options for smart dialing but the problem is after I make or receive a call smart dialing will stop working so I need so softreset it.
As for the cube flip thing I'm not interest in it.
Basically I like the gray color scheme, the way comm manager looks and the dialer. The today plugin I got a mokup working with rltoday but it was too slow to change pages as it uses mortscript to replate the rltoday config file and reload the app.
Yoz
I actually sold one of my BAs march 06 and got a wizard nib. You're missing out on a lot of sweet new items on wm6.. heres a shot of the htc touch in action
xplode said:
also not mentioned things in touch rom are the new windows live messenger (10.6.00.28.2700) and the new arcsoft mms 4.0.31.21) IA Zip(1.20.27526.0), Smart Dialing(2.5.27526.0), Sim Manager(6.13), Sim Access Profile, Adobe Reader LE, HTC Audio Manager, HTC Audio Today Plugin, (ported them all to wm5, and will include them in my next rom or as cabs). All of you are crazy about the gui stuff (which is not working well in wm5) but forget the important things
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I will be looking forward your next release. What I'm saying about the touch ui it's just about the colors and visuals. If it's possible to change the colors from our current conn manager and have the dial pad like the touch one (bigger keypad) that would be nice.
As far buying the "touch" it's not a possibility right now ($) and the only reason I have the BA is because a friend gave it to me.
xplode said:
touchflo ui will never be available in WM5, also it depends on the HTC touch touscreen driver, if simeone post a hacked one it will be available on the other wm6 devices, but for now no other than HTC Touch Has it. The theme and comm manager and smartdialing work just fine with my rom (slows the device a lot but work,you can not open the options of smart dialing), home today plugin is not compatible with WM5
everyone is crazy about htc touch, if you want it that bad just buy it
also not mentioned things in touch rom are the new windows live messenger (10.6.00.28.2700) and the new arcsoft mms 4.0.31.21) IA Zip(1.20.27526.0), Smart Dialing(2.5.27526.0), Sim Manager(6.13), Sim Access Profile, Adobe Reader LE, HTC Audio Manager, HTC Audio Today Plugin, (ported them all to wm5, and will include them in my next rom or as cabs). All of you are crazy about the gui stuff (which is not working well in wm5) but forget the important things
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I know it is sort of GUI, but when Helmis WM6 ROM comes out (thanks so much Helmi), will it be possible to port the actual touchFLO interface where you dont need a stylus to read email and suchlike to the BA in WM6?
thanks,
hardingt0110
When that ROM comes out the possibilities will be the same as for other devices running WM6 so search other forum sections where available touch apps are discussed. As for the stylusless inbox control I believe the hardware upgrade would be required for its proper work.
Wexx said:
When that ROM comes out the possibilities will be the same as for other devices running WM6 so search other forum sections where available touch apps are discussed. As for the stylusless inbox control I believe the hardware upgrade would be required for its proper work.
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I cant find anything usable in other threads, they're just speculating on whether the BIOCUBE will work. Can anyone provide a cab, or some other form of installing it (this is assuming we are using Helmi's WM6 BA ROM)?
hardingt0110 said:
Is there a black wm6 theme that will work with Wisbar 3?
I cant find one...
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there's quite a few actually
chk out the Lakeridgesoftware website in the forums they have a skins and themes section that has qwuite a few for free download, just make sure you get a QVGA version.
Also a quick google search for "4PDA.ru wisbar" will give you a russian site that has quite a few on there that aren't on the lakeridge site, and a efw that are. =)
enjoy
cyberjak said:
there's quite a few actually
chk out the Lakeridgesoftware website in the forums they have a skins and themes section that has qwuite a few for free download, just make sure you get a QVGA version.
Also a quick google search for "4PDA.ru wisbar" will give you a russian site that has quite a few on there that aren't on the lakeridge site, and a efw that are. =)
enjoy
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Yes, I dont actually care now cos helmi has made a wm6 rom for the ba, but thanks anyways!
Any news on whether we will be able to upgrade to the new version coming out? 6.1 is being seen on a new Motorola Q.
screen shots here..
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/windows-mobile-61/
Wonder if the twist menu system will help with out clunky redraws.
That looks like "smartphone". I would expect full windows mobile to be quite different.
Later, Lew
The device has a keyboard. And the new version is reported to be compatible with multiple resolution and landscape/portrait modes.
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The device has a keyboard.
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But no touchscreen. The Moto Q is a smartphone (i.e. WM6 Standard)
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1
brumle80 said:
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1
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I have tried this version, I am not so happy with it. I find it rather slow and the zooming in zooming out feels tedious. I may be spoiled because I am also using an iPod Touch with the Safari Mobile browser but are there any previous builds of the Opera Mobile 9.5 browser that have faster performance than this?
I am working on a Samsung i780 so I have a lot of power behind the phone, I just don't find this version jaw-dropping.
Okay this looks great. Just tested it on the Diamond and it's fast, seems stable and fixes the "black whole problem" at least on the sites I had problems with.
One drawback: it doesn't seem to support the g-sensor out of the box. however we might be able to work around that with gsen... didn't try that though.
I guess this is a real candidate for some cooked ROMs...
Edit: This thing is REALLY fast. We might probably want to work on how to replace the original opera on a diamond with this version?
Cheers,
Alex
Will installing this overwrite the default Opera diamond browser?
You can install it on the internal storage - so your pre-installed opera should be left untouched. As for the default browser setting - I didn't check that. But you should be able to switch back if desired as well.
Okay from some testing I can report the following issues:
Does not use old Opera's bookmarks, so when overwriting old opera there's no way to sync bookmarks with Manila (some tiny application might be written to do the job however I guess)
Occasionly prevents device standby (even when manually pressing the standby button) - getting out of opera helps
At least in my setup it keeps starting itself when exited - that might however be a result of me playing around to replace original opera with new one
The most noticable bug from opera's official known-issues list is the non-working re-flow of text paragraphs. instead the paragraphs are _always_ sized to fit the zoomed-in screen
Auto-rotation is not implemented out of the box - I didn't test, yet if GSen would do the trick (for some of us disabled auto-rotation might actually be a plus ;-)
Some of these issues obviously have to be fixed for a final - but I assume they will do so until the final release.
On the bright side we have:
Definitely faster
Looks like it has lower memory consumption (not measured though) - this actually makes the auto-restart thing I experience acceptable for me - I simply keep it running in the background at the moment
The black-hole problem seems to be fixed
Once the issues have been worked out this will be a huge step forward in mobile browsing on the diamond - even compared to the current version of opera mobile!
If anyone else is testing this software I'd be happy to hear some feedback and maybe solutions found to the issues I mentioned.
Cheers,
Alex
Does it also support Flash based websites? (containing flash video's?)
i also tried to install it both on the device & internal storage, but it just won't start the new version... even when i start the program from the program list it will start the old version...
i guess the beta version wanted to prevent the resizing of the paragraph while zooming in some text pages, but i do like it coz the zooming in & out is now more precise...
anyone have any idea how to replace the old opera with this new beta...
also another problem encountered is the pop up of the input keyboard... it will automatically switch to the default windows style even if i set it to full qwerty keyboard...
i hope htc will implement it soon or opera could release the final version soon, this browser is the best so far~
Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
not impressed, seems much slower than what im currently using
find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)
FH1 said:
find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)
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i need to do the samething to launch it;
the keyboard issue is really annoying but the performance is better; i like the skin of it
i didn't have that problem... i tried installing it on internal mem & device & my diamond opera is still working
Jin187 said:
Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
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Have to agree, build 1938 is *way* better than this one, it's a lot faster and far more stable. At least on a Samsung i780 which is what I used to test it.
I also tried it on an iMate Jasjar but the build had problems working with the qwerty keyboard -- when you try to type it will take in one character then close the SIP, so you can no longer enter any letters. Horrible bug, did not have this problem with any other build I tried so far. But it works fine, only problem is I have to use the SIP, and the point of getting a Universal is to have the QWERTY!
Tweaked the rom to the MAX. and also added better powersaving settings. Also added touchflo 3D (ver 1) with daviduck background, modified to my style.
This build is built from Quartz, kovsky, blackstone, rhodium, topaz
Volymecontrol(modded with hardwarekeys to change system volyme as first choice instead of telephone).
-added my Actionscreen to powerbutton (hold pwr butt. for 3 sec.)
-lot's of memory tweaks, program tweaks, SD speed tweaks, battery optimations, finger friendly optimized. (big menus)
-slide out keyboard dont wake up phone ADDED.
when busy, tone DONT go out through the speaker
-Panelmanager and option are left in, so you can add panels.
-ADDED WHITE BATTERY LIKE ORIGINAL BUT WITH 10% STEPS, EX. 100%, 90%, 80%...
-Enabled facebook and youtube upload
exept for the original packages i also installed
netcf 3.5
misc tweaks
totalcommander (swedish)
ppcpimbackup
advanced config 3.3
modaco nodata
pocketrar
syncrotimer (thanx ITJE)
Taskmanager
weather database editor (add new cities to touchflo3d)
NEW obex inbox (bluetooth files to memorycard, in settings connections you can change location of recieve) and enabled obex (faster transfers) CAN RECIVE IN STANDBY.
changed alot of files and driver to get more stability and performence.
Added bigger font for more finger friendly useability
Opera from latest original r2 ROM (zoom with hardware volyme keys)
Latest Live messanger
Iris browser flash support (youtube works) among others.
Flash Lite 3.1 (works with opera)
Flashplayer 7
Removed
the most of wma, mpr, mp4 well media files some kept.
some other crap, don't remember.
THANKS:
itje, chalid, jackleung, and you name it... ther's to many to list..
And a special thanx to itje for making this a GO... GREAT SUPPORT to my nabor..
free memory is approx 310mb and 130 for programs.
and the rom has a 20MB pagepool
new X1 is opera touchflo prepared only thing to do is in opera type opera:config and follow instructions from my 1.1 thread...
Rules:
1. Dont complaint about why I remove this or that. Or why I dont add this or that.
2. Have respect for ppl who contribute to the members of XDA
3. Do not sell this software on E-bay or other places
4. I will only cook in sweish language as other cooks are doing such a great job.
I stole the above line from ITJE (hope he don't mind).
DOWNLOAD XPERIA XION X1 HERE...
Screenshots see thread xion 2.2 added itjes black skin to dialer...
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is this 3.0 or 2.2?
landscape mode?
when i upcoming??
sounds great, looking forward to this release..
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is this 3.0 or 2.2?
landscape mode?
when i upcoming??
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read above, it not the new touchflo 3d 2, its the old one, since the new manila is only working correct in englisg version, and its to buggy, i will relase an 3.0 beta 2, if i can iron out the bugs.
This release is SUPER STABLE AND FAST. ive been runnig it for 7 days without soft, hardreset, or anything, its like the duracell bunny
its not 2.2 or 3.0 its a new base for my builds, i finally got the perfekt base to develot from.
its alredy finished, i just gotta come home to upload it, later tonight probebly...
this is the FINAL ROM i will make before the new manila 2 comes out in nordic languages, and that will be mid june.
nice nice nice can't wait! 2.2 is fast and good, but this seems to be better!
Is this in Swedish or English?
Thanks!
kband said:
Is this in Swedish or English?
Thanks!
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SWE = svenska!
so you have released it now? taught you will release later today, didn't take the USB cable with me to work, damn... ^^
Gille1 said:
so you have released it now? taught you will release later today, didn't take the USB cable with me to work, damn... ^^
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Lucky me! I did
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Lucky me! I did
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haha just figured out I can flash it via the memory card, so I have sent the ROM file via bluetooth, any minute it's there so I can flash!
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Smaberg: do you know if it's possible to fix this, when pressing phone and to call a number, it's white on your ROM, is it possible to get a black background instead of the white? for example when enter the PIN code it's black numbers thanks
Thank you very much Smaberg it is very fast and stable
Thanks smaberg! Will definitely try this one out!
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Smaberg: do you know if it's possible to fix this, when pressing phone and to call a number, it's white on your ROM, is it possible to get a black background instead of the white? for example when enter the PIN code it's black numbers thanks
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search for itjes black dialer for blackstone (touch HD)
love your work so i have finalley donated some too you. Thanks for your great ROM it's amazing.. looking forward to your ROM on the new manilla
With the Xion 2.2 I felt like the reception were weaker than with the 2.1. Was that just my subjective feeling, or were there different radio versions?
Is the radio version in Xion X1 different from the 2.2?
And as allways, I love your work!
when I install Spb Wireless Monitor (latest ver) TF3D won't launch any more.
Even an uninstall won't help. Reflash is the only way. Bug @ Xion or bug @ Spb?
Dear Cooks,
Firstly I would like to thank all of you for the fantastic ROMs you make available to all the Xperia users. I personally appreciate your work and have also made some donations to express my support for your endeavours.
This post is to signal a bug that is present in many roms, yet it is not the fault of the cooks.
THE PROBLEM
Opera 9.5 has issues with the hardware keyboard of the Xperia. In most builds opera 9.5 will not allow the use of the HW keyboard to type text in the web pages (i.e. keyboard works to write in the opera address bars; however it does not work to type in the web page itself: like in google home page, or in the home page of Airlines when you need to write the details of your destination etc. etc.).
This problem is particularly bad beacuse Opera is very often cooked in the Rom ad the default browser and is associated to the TF3D internet tab. Under these circumstances Opera cannot be uninstalled and substituted with a working version; moreover installing a working version on top of the non working one produces many bugs.
A HUMBLE SUGGESTION
Plesase, when cooking your roms could you try implementing one of the Opera 9.5 builds that are proven to be compatible with the HW keyboard of the Xperia? For one, I know that build 15969 works.
Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/210069981/WM6.1_PPC_dawn_Opera_15969_signed.cab
[Props to Ds07 for the link]
It is not the most recent version, I know. However it works well enough.
Thank you very much.
P.S. If anyone is aware of other possible solutions to this issue, please feel free to contribute to this thread.
maybe make a poll and see what ppl want......rhodium opera vs x1 opera
x1 opera will enable hardware keyboard and reduce ram usage as it does not run in background.
but it will also mean that opera will boot slower AND pushinternet wont work!
@agent_47
I see your point.
However, having the HW keyboard disabled on my default browser appears like a rather big problem when compared to little benefit that "pushinternet" brings.
Moreover, if I am not mistaken, Pushinternet is a Manila feature only. While Opera versions with non functioning HW Keyboard are found in ALL roms.
I agree, this makes the whole HW-keyboard useless as I mostly use it in Opera. I just flashed EnergyRom and this is really annoying
i cant understand the discussion? why not just install an opera build over the preinstalled build then it will work, i dont see an big issue in it.
My oscar goes to the hardware keyboard version..
I find the Push Internet version is just a waste of space in ROM, as i don't need it and it is definetly < HW keyboard support!
That's why i bought an Xperia.. Because of its keyboard!
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i cant understand the discussion? why not just install an opera build over the preinstalled build then it will work, i dont see an big issue in it.
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This is a VERY inefficient solution. For example in the current NRG rom installing an opera build that works with HW keyboard over the preinstalled one renders Opera unusable. When that happens, you have the default browser that is associated with numerous file extensions that won't work anymore.
Moreover, if you try installing 9.7 on top of the preinstalled Opera, it simply won't work.
I have investigated this quite a bit; it's a topic that has come up for many other devices. Removing a specific opera build to replace it with another one is very hard when opera is originally cooked in the Rom.
For me, being unable to use the HW keyboard in the default browser is a rather big issue.
I agree with having the version that includes keyboard support.
For what it's worth even Opera 9.7b1 supports out keyboard better, even though there is no push support... push....hm, anyone here remember the PointCast network and client...
Agent 47's latest ROMs have been the best all around versions I've used so far (giving credit and thanks to the entire cookin' devs however)... with the exception of the Opera niggle...
I end up using the Iris browser, to avoid having multiple Opera versions running
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@agent_47
Moreover, if I am not mistaken, Pushinternet is a Manila feature only. While Opera versions with non functioning HW Keyboard are found in ALL roms.
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Push Internet MUST use that particular Opera to work. I like the PushInternet idea once, but finally give it up and use stock Opera instead because it preloading single page w/o sub sequence links is pretty useless to the whole browsing experience.
That's why I leave Opera alone and let user install whatever version they like.
I believe some interesting elements are emerging:
1) Non Manila ROMs are probably better off with Opera 15969 or any Opera build that supports HW keyboard
2) Manila ROMs have the issue of PushInternet.
Personally, considering the limited benefits of this function and the highcost in terms of RAM....I would definitely prefer having a version of Opera that supports HW keyboard.
I guess it will come down to what the cooks prefer.
However, it would be nice if cooks and users alike continued expressing their opinion on the matter.
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Push Internet MUST use that particular Opera to work. I like the PushInternet idea once, but finally give it up and use stock Opera instead because it preloading single page w/o sub sequence links is pretty useless to the whole browsing experience.
That's why I leave Opera alone and let user install whatever version they like.
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i totally agree with u...pushinternet IS pretty useless...BUT when i installed opera 9.7 and let out Push internet, some one reported a bug that he cant use it even when he activates it from registry and manilla
this also bugs me. pretty every ROM i try has this issue. surfing the web is pretty pointless imho if u cant search for anything. i mean ... the only reason we all bought this phone was the keyboard and then we cant use it. this makes most custom rom's somehwat useless to me (for me ... dont start any flaming cause thats my opinion. and opinions are like assholes. every1 has one ^^).
yes yes yes..!! this is the post.. u r da man!!
i would really dissapointed to see my opera is still couldnt use hardware ky..!!
i tried opera 9.7 b1 with hardware keyboard.. it works well.. disable the push web straight away.. haha
I bought my X1 because of the decent HW keyboard, not because of Push Internet
You can flash roms without Opera, like me. I've installed my stock 15431 Opera from russian r3a007 over 3.61 BareBone ant I haven't any problems with it.
And I think 3.61 BB rom is one of the best working roms out there.
sorry, doublepost
this IS the holy grail thread for a majority of x1 opera users...
i just posted in agent_47's thread about this being one of the outstanding issues i'm experiencing with his rom, and someone actually has the decency to make it into a brand new thread. But yea, I thought this issue was 'isolated' and that other rom cookers were using the default r3a opera /w full hw kb support on theirs and i preferred the valkyrie so i just wanted to swop out the opera running on it...
turns out every romcooker is doing the same. I daresay the first cook that puts in a fully functional opera is gonna nab the most popularity. What i don't understand, as romcooks and xperia x1 users, how did you guys manage to live with using the measly software kb to use opera!? ?
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turns out every romcooker is doing the same. I daresay the first cook that puts in a fully functional opera is gonna nab the most popularity.
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That's a bit exaggerated... there have always been good and popular ROMs around with proper HW keyboard support.
It's just that most of us here are "freaks": Easily hyped with new functions and higher version numbers (even if there's no real benefit) - and less interested in 100% stability and usability.
But there are always ROMs around which offer less bling-bling-featuritis - they are just not on forum page 1. The choice is up to yourself.
well yea i guess everyone would wanna go for the bling and the functionality.
there are probably a 100 other romcookers out there, but i guess my statement was targetted towards the more popular ones that people actually use .
This is the first time Im doing a post on xda dwvelopers. And it is bacause I would realy like to know whenever someome finds a solution for enabling hw keyboard to woerk with Opera browswrs that comes with coocked ROMs.., Sorry for the typing mistakes but my hw keyboard is not working.