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Calls drop

Guys,
When I got my P3600 some weeks ago I didn't experience any problems with problems with calls dropping. But ever since I've upgraded to WM6 I am experiencing this problem... the calls drop at random, sometimes I can talk for hours without any disconnect, and sometimes the call drops and I cannot even call the person back... And even after downgrading to the shipped rom, I still have this problem... That made me wonder if maybe I have had problem when I got the device but at that point I was just lucky not to have calls dropping.
Yesterday was the last time a call dropped on me. I couldn't call the person back, the phone didn't establish a new connection. When I finally got the person back on the phone (2 minutes later) he/she said that the whole time she thought I was driving through a tunnel and that I would reconnect because... I stayed connected at the other phone... After 2 minutes, she said, the connection was finally broken and that's when I was able to call again.
So sounds to me that windows mobile disconnects me and that the operators network still keeps my number connected.
Well, needless to say, I want to fix this issue. I have a 3G Vodafone NL subscription but I read that 3G could be the cause of my issue. so I've just disabled 3G. Now I'm just running on GPRS... Which isn't how I want it to stay. Any ideas, same experience/ pointers how to solve this?
Thnx. Arend

Reply from HTC
This is the reply I got from HTC:
Try to remove it off 3G go to settings / phone / band - then select GSM from the top drop down menu.
Should now reset.
If it comes up with an error, turn on flight mode then do the above again.
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So based on this reply it seems that 3G might be causing my issue.
I replied to HTC:
I have followed your instructions but now I can only use gprs... but I have a 3G subscription with my provider. So even if this workaround works, it's not to my satisfaction.
Pls advice.
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I'll post their reply.
Further, if someone has more info on the subject please let me know.

Same problem here...
No issues before upgrading to WM6. Sometimes the call drops out after a few minutes, sometimes a few seconds, and sometimes already after a few rings. The other day I had to make a call 5 or 6 times to finish the conversation - very annoying...
I'm running the first official Australian WM6 release for Dopod/HTC, i.e. the one that got pulled off the web for a while. Possibly going to the newer release of the ROM update solves the problem? Even though I think both versions run on the same radio ROM.

I've used the same rom as you to upgrade to WM6. But in my case, even when downgrading to the shipped rom, I still had calls dropping. And like you, sometimes after minutes, seconds etc.
Still having no drops since I have turned 3G off. But I just wanted to look something up on the internet... took minutes to get the info on my screen with GRPS, so it's not much like a solution.

This is the reply of HTC:
Dear sir,
Regarding your situation with the device , I would suggest you, to? resolve your issue with the network coverage ,to practice a hard reset on your mobile with the following step:
START -> Setting->System->CLEAR STORAGE and follow the procedure, if you have already done this manipulation , I would direct you? to this service and check the right number on this area with your network ush the green button to call->then go to menu-> option ->Services->select the on the following list ->Voice mail etc-> and then get setting -> and check that the number is right with your network provider.
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Needless to say, but I'll say it anyway, I have performed hard resets... indeed, multiple
The second action they adviced, sounded a bit strange to me. But when I retrieved the settings I saw that there was no number filled in for voicemail. So I've entered 1233 (Vodafone NL voicemailnumber).
So maybe the last action has nothing to do with my issue, but who knows.
So now I am running again on 3G. I'll keep y'all posted.

Just checked it on my device and there is already an entry under voice mail. So I severly doubt that it has anything to do with the voice mail settings, too.

No, I guess you are right.
Further, since I am running 3G my signal I noticed my signal is weaker then running GPRS-only. My calls have not dropped since but I do get complaints that people sometimes cannot hear what I say because my line goes dead, and a moment later it's back again.
I've got another reply from HTC:
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If a hard reset didn't solve the problem and the problem only occurs when switching to 3G, than this can be caused by the following;
1. Problem with the device.
2. Problem with the network, ???
I would suggest to test your SIM in another HTC device with 3G and see what happens. If it happens again than it is a? problem with the network. If it works with that 3G device than it could be a faulty device. The experience is that it is related to the 3G network himself. If it is a network issue, than you can ask them to deactivate the 3G/HSDPA.
We can't find this out for you in the UK, you need to see if you could determine the problem yourself.
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Thus the support of HTC.
So now I have written an email to vodafone. I'll keep you posted.

Same problem !
Try to flash your device with ROM_Radio 1.41.00.11,
Friendly

Barichon said:
Same problem !
Try to flash your device with ROM_Radio 1.41.00.11,
Friendly
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Ok... but I'm somewhat confused... are you experiencing the same problem with 1.41.00.11? Or did you solve the problem by flashing to 1.41.00.11?

2----> solve by reflashing with 1.41.00.11

Ok, I've upgraded to 1.41.00.11.
So far, I've experienced no calls dropping on me.
Nevertheless, I've also made a phonecall to Vodafone explaining the issue. They acknowlegde the issue... SAY WHAT?!! Yes... they acknowledge the issue and recommend turning the device to GRPS only. WHAT?!!.. Chill, they can at least try that, who knows, maybe I would have said yes.
So, I explained GPRS only is not an option since it is a tiny bit slower then what I am paying for.
They've put the call through to their 2nd line and keep me informed. So as soon as I hear something I will get back to you.
ps. What I found very great is that they did not cut it off with "Ow, you are using the HTC P3600... I'm sorry, we do not support that device." Vodafone NL, keep up this great level of support!

Ok, so far I've heard nothing from Vodafone. And so far I have had one call that dropped. So although that is a huge improvement, it still sucks.
So... now what? The way I see it:
1. I want to have fast internet on my PDA (3G), so only GPRS is not an option
2. There are problems with the 3G network which make calls drop every now and then
3. Vodafone isn't going to fix this in a short period of time.
So the question is: what is more import to me: 3G or a reliable phone connections?
The answer is: reliable phone connection.
So I will switch my network to GSM instead of auto and when
I really need fast internet I will switch to 3G.
Case closed... well, not really... but still, case closed.

Hi
I think is not the operator problem and could be the phone problem, I am using the D810 in Singapore with Starhub and have the same problem with drop calls once I use 3G network. If I switch to GSM only than is perfect no drop calls and calls quality improve also.
So sad having a 3.5G phone and can't use 3.5G service

Could be, but HTC and Vodafone confirmed me that it has to do with the 3G network. And I do not want to know the technical details about all that so I'll leave it at that.

Do I have a dead Kaiser

Had my O2 Steller (rebranded kaiser) with the original ROM for about a month and I cant believe it but i think its turned into a brick.
The problem I have is even though it gets a full signal I cannot send or recieve calls, texts or transmit any data. When the fault happens during a call I have the phone looking like it is connecting with the dialler but immediately ends the call.
I had initially thought it was maybe a bit of software causing the prob so removed any software I had installed , (HTC home Skype and google maps) this had no effect. Tried another sim card in case mine was faulty, still no effect.
Spoke to a mate who suggested that I try a hard reset and this seemed to give me a solution with it working for a day but today it started to go faulty again.
Anyone else had any similar issues similar?
Really peaved as O2 cannot get me a new Kaiser for some time as they initially said they were no longer available, then said they were out of stock but had no idea when they would get stock back in. Tried to palm me off with lower spec phones.
Main concern is getting my kaiser working again, so any help with this would be great.

id try a hard reset once more.. if that fails, call your service provider. they might be the cause of the problem

not techinally a brick since you can turn it off and on and see some functions... I might recommend completely flashing the rom... that might solve the problem if it is indeed a software problem

Call Quality Issues - Lack of audibility for other person

Hi
I was wondering if anyone has encountered the following problem...
When I make a call or receive a call the person on the other end of the conversation says that I sound really quiet and that they can barely hear me. I have tested this myself and found the audibility very poor.
I've a Eurpoean model, operating on the o2 network in Ireland
Please don't flame me and tell me I should have searched as I have read the other thread on "call voice quality issues" and this is a seperate issue as in that thread they claim that they sound robotic to the other person whereas I sound fine but just barely audible
Any help would be greatly appreciated as it is a major issue with the phone.
Also please ignore my signature as I haven't had a chance to update it and I've a very poor internet connection at the moment so I can't do it right now
Thanks

Hi,
I'm also using the Diamond on O2 in Ireland and I've not experienced that issue. People seem to be able to hear me fine.
Could be a firmware issue. My stock ROM was some old ME firmware but I've since flashed to 1.93.401.2 WWE. Works very well in all respects, and you never know it could help with your volume problem.

Hi thanks very much for the reply
Hoped someone else from Ireland would see my post
What radio are you using and what SPL?
Where did you find the ROM & radio? I searched for the ROM reference you gave in your last post but it showed up nothing. I'm probably not searching correctly though. I want to make sure I flash an identical version to yourself to ensure I have a successful resolution to this problem cos its driving me mad at the moment
Thanks

Hey, sorry for taking so long to reply.
I upgraded to [ROM][WWE]HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.2 5.12_1.00.25.05_Ship (post is here) after first flashing my Diamond with Unsigned-Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex from here.
Having done that, my radio is at 1.00.25.05 and the ROM version is 1.93.401.2 WWE. After putting on the HardSPL, I flashed the actual ROM but I didn't take any extra steps to upgrade the radio. Seems like it was included in the ROM update I downloaded. I see tutorials around the place for flashing a different radio, but that didn't seem necessary in my case.
I should also mention that my Diamond is DIAM100 (reset whilst holding the Volume Down key to check if yours is a DIAM100 too) as I think there are issues using certain SPLs with different DIAM versions.
Having done this upgrade, Opera is much faster and more stable, TouchFLO is very fast and smooth and everything is generally hunky dorey. The Diamond goes together pretty well with O2 Billpay and the 250mb data add on. I don't understand this iPhone hysteria where people are thrilled to have an 18 month contract for at least 45 quid a month. Go Diamond go.

thanks a million for your reply
After spending most of the day reading I managed to get the problem solved by installing hard SPL and updating the radio... I'm not sure how it fixed it but it did so I'm happy
I'm on o2 prepay... unlimited texts to any network is very appealing... would love a data package but don't want to be tied to a contract
thanks again

Good stuff.
Would still recommend upgrading the main ROM aswell though, its much more stable and smooth than the stock ROM.
Adios
Dave

I had the same complaint. Everytime I talked to someone, they complained about the quality of my phone call.
I called HTC and they said when the new ROM came out, it would help. It had something to do with the lack of 3G or another band.... I can't remember which band but the point is, for us, in the US, the choice of bands was the problem.
Now that I've updated my ROM, I've had no issues.
Mark

I have this issue. I hear the calls loud and clear but the person on the other end claims they can hardly hear me.
I'm using ROM 1.93.456.2 WWE from 7/10/08
Radio 1.00.25.05
Any recommendations on what to do?
Thanks

hi
in my case it was my microphone that was broken on the phone
i returned the phone to HTC to repair it and since I got it back its working perfectly
The way to check if the microphone is not working is to record yourself talking using the voice recorder. That will tell you if it's the microphone or not

Thanks. I checked and, although it isn't going to win any sound quality awards, I don't believe it's broken.
I'll maybe compare it to my Touch and see if there is an obvious difference before proceeding.
Hopefully it can be corrected in a software change...

I think I have the same problem. I posted it on the "Support Centre" thread.
My Diamond was working fine, I did some ROM updates with no problem. One day my wife started complaining that she could barely hear me. That was the case with everybody else. I could hear them perfectly but my voice was too low for them. Checked the volume and restared the Phone with no results. After a lot of random testing the phone came back to normal. This problem happened again a few days later and I noticed that people could her me fine when i was using the stero phones, but could barely hear me through the embedded mic on the Phone. This time only a hard reset was able to bring the phone back to normal.
Now things are worse! After a hard reset or a new ROM update the phone works fine for a few hours than the problem starts and nothing can bring it back to normal (only a hard reset).
I dont think it is a hardware problem because the phone works after the hard reset, but I tested some different ROMs an the problem persisted.
At the moment I am downloading other ROMs and RADIOs to see if it does any good. If someone has any idea I would love to hear it!
Thanks in advance.

@ Maddog
That sounds exactly the same as the way my problem progressed
I tried numerous radio's & rom's to try solve the problem and immediately after installing a new rom or radio the microphone worked (therefore i assumed it was a rom/radio issue) but like you it stopped working soon afterwards
Eventually no matter what rom I installed no one could hear me on the other end of the call and after ringing HTC they told me it must be the microphone. I sent it back and they fixed if for free. Must say I was impressed with their service

Thanks Lassykk,
Not a good news for me as my cell is from europe and I live in Brazil... well, I think I am going to buy a Jawbone2 Bluetooth headset and will try to live with the problem untill I travel back to europe on the end of the year.
Thanks.

I live in ireland and my nearest repair centre is in the UK. They were happy for me to send to the UK and they fixed it and sent it back to me with minimal fuss.
I assume you could send it to your nearest repair centre. Might be worth looking into it. You need proof of purchase though if you bought it off ebay or somewhere you didn't get a receipt
Hope this helps

Problem Receiving SMS

Hi, I've been having a problem with my HTC Kaiser SMS service
It receives SMS normaly, but sometimes it just doesn't receive the messages. It looks like random... sometimes it receives de message normally, but sometimes it turns on just like it's going to receive soemething, but nothing comes. I've done a test with my operator site sending me messages and most of them are received, but some of the messages simply doesn't come.
My girlfriend told me that she gets the confirmation of my receiving all of the messages she send mt, but some of her messages are not received by me.
is there any solution
I use the original HTC ROM with windows mobile 6.1 (ROM ver: 3.29.707.0 WWE; radio: 1.65.16.25 ROM DATE 05/07/08)
can someone help me
I've tried to hard reset my phone and reinstall everything manually and sync my agenda and contacts from my computer database.

I have the exact same problem!! It doesnt happen very often, but happens once in a while. I am using Anryl's WM 6.5 21725 Final Release, Radio 1.71.09.01 eMO, and is a Swedish TyTn II. I am also using JGui's SMS Reports Eraser. Anybody got a solution for this???

I also have the same problem! Anyone with a solution?

intersting
I thought I was the only one to have this strange and inexplicable problems in my device... does anybody has a solution for it? thanks

Its really frustrating!! No one has a solution???? maybe flashing a new ROM would help???? but i don't want to flash unless i know it will work for sure, coz i got all my settings and softwares customized to my liking. I tried changing the radio, but it doesn't help.

Guess what people?!, It's been a week since I had to Hard Reset my TyTn II and apparently my problem is solved! I have received all sms and mms so far! Maybe you could try to HR and see what happens...

Okay, will try. Thanks Arrgntmnc

SMS is not a reliable service. That's fact.
Even on Symbian or some other dumb phone. You can get a 'false' delivery (some operators although not all, do that, once they sent out, their Service Center will give back the delivered, without waiting for actual handset delivery)

I guess I did it!
Hi, I tried to hard reset my kaiser... nothing
I installed the Phoenix III ROM... nothing
I installed the original HTC ROM... it worked!!!
I've been on my second week testing. I'm doing this. When the sms problem begin Icould see my cell phone ligts up as if it was going to receive something, but nothing happened. Then I turned off the auto turn off in battery settings and I always turn it of after using it... So, if someone try to send me a SMS and the phone light up, I will know. 'Till now I haven't spoted my screen on. I'll test it for 4 more weeks and if it works I will post to you

actually, jsut goto you SD card and there will be a folder called inboxXXXXXX... if you ahve that problem.. just delete that folder.. it fixes your problem.... Try to manually open the SMS messages.. does it jsutn ot load? then that is definatley your problem.. this problem effects most all WM devices...

Teej53214 said:
actually, jsut goto you SD card and there will be a folder called inboxXXXXXX...
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Where exactly is this folder supposed to be??? I couldnt find anything on my SD card.

[Q] Viva incoming SMS issue and missed incoming calls

Hi, I am a recently registered user but a longtime "lurker" on the Opal section of xda.
I've bought my girlfriend an opal, roughly a year ago, and in three months or so she started complaining about some issues of the phone:
- From time to time she cannot send me SMSs, she just keep receiving the "cannot send sms" error
When this happens, she usually:
- Cannot establish an outgoing call, and more important,
- She cannot even receive any incoming call despite the mobile being connected to the network, and free, so that the caller just get a "no answer" while she doesn't even have neither a missed call report nor any ringtone deployed.
- Receive incoming SMSs
I've already tried to solve the problem in various different ways, including(of course) looking for help in existing threads, flashing a new rom on the phone resetting more than once.
I'm just stuck on a dead point, as of now.
Do you have an idea on how to solve such issues?
The only "fix" we found was to activate airplane mode then deactivate it to restart the network connection.
I think it is something related to the radio part of the OS but i couldn't find different radios to flash on.
Thanks in advance!

Hi Paperboy,
your problem is contained into 2 possibilities:
Your Network Setting (the SMS provider number)
Your OS (most propable)
I guess the best remedy is to use the official ROM (WM 6.1 Professional). You may have used unstable ROMs that caused such a mess.
Unfortunately, I merely found the Arabic ROM (It can be changed to English from (Settings>> Multilanguage Support).
WM 6.1 Arabic ROM
Hope it helps somehow.

Actually, I think it's neither of two.
I checked more than once the provider settings, including the sms service center. Actually if it is not correct, she'd never be able to send messages, while the "hangs" are just...random.
On the os side, i think it's not a matter of roms, mainly because i flashed as a consequence of months of frustration with the original rom.
Any other ideas?
btw, thanks for your advice!

DaPaperboy said:
Actually, I think it's neither of two.
I checked more than once the provider settings, including the sms service center. Actually if it is not correct, she'd never be able to send messages, while the "hangs" are just...random.
On the os side, i think it's not a matter of roms, mainly because i flashed as a consequence of months of frustration with the original rom.
Any other ideas?
btw, thanks for your advice!
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it happens to me sometimes, when a message will just not go. i think its network/radio related, but it happens to me very less. i havent seen any radio's either.
sorry, i know, i could not help...

At least I'm not alone! Let's hope the gurus have a solution!

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At least I'm not alone! Let's hope the gurus have a solution!
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Hey there. I cant help but laugh, I had the exact same problem when i first got my phone and I used to think its a problem with the network but it isn't, if you haven't changed the stock OS/ROM, thats your issue, Flash an new ROM and it should resolve your problem.
(I recommend the pajerm RC3 ROM)
(Take care to backup all data, use outlook to backup all your contacts and stuff).
If that doesn't resolve your problem, post back. Best o' luck.

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Hey there. I cant help but laugh, I had the exact same problem when i first got my phone and I used to think its a problem with the network but it isn't, if you haven't changed the stock OS/ROM, thats your issue, Flash an new ROM and it should resolve your problem.
(I recommend the pajerm RC3 ROM)
(Take care to backup all data, use outlook to backup all your contacts and stuff).
If that doesn't resolve your problem, post back. Best o' luck.
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Actually I flashed that exact ROM, still experiencing issues, though.

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Actually I flashed that exact ROM, still experiencing issues, though.
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Okay this issue is rather different, What is certain is that the issue is not on the software side. Either your phone is konk or its the service, check the same SIM on a different phone, see if you face the same issue, if you do then its your network (which I know You said is unlikely, but no harm in making sure right?) If on the other hand, the phone works perfectly fine, then you have a problem with your phone's hardware in which case you need to get it check and probably serviced, worst case, get the handset replaced (if its under warranty).
Best o' luck

Try THIS ROM and report...Has a variety of apps as add on...Hope it works for you.

I'll give a try!
Thank you anyway!

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I'll give a try!
Thank you anyway!
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Dont lock your phone with the default windows lock.....(use S2U2)
I know its strange but this helps, and do restart your phone every third day....

Issue Not Solved, but figured out
The HTC opal is sort of incompatible with certain carriers around the world, and this issue does not apply to all opals, only some of them have an issue. For example my phone has this issue with Airtel in my country. The phone seems to work fine with every other carrier. I think I might have to change my damn network again!

is it possible to turn off the thread view in opal??pls hlp