So how slow is this thing? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Anyone had a chance to play with the US version yet? I heard there were a few beta testers for Sprint running around.
Got a mogul that I am looking to upgrade and have been considering this phone but I am concerned with the reviews I have seen from Europe regarding how pathetically slow the device is.
Any info is greatly appreciated.

The device is not slow on the new version ROMs, all reviews done (as far as i have seen) were on the old ROM which was definately slow (i was worried before i got it about how slow it was), but now it is much better and hardly has any let downs.
In terms of US, im sure that if they are not on a fast ROM already then they will be upgrading soon, so then you can obtain it and enjoy.

Thanks. Are you happy with yours I take it?

Yep i am happy.
When i first got it (MDA Compact IV) I was presented with the old ROM (and radio 1.00.25.03) and thought that was the speed that i had to put up with so it up put me off a bit as i hadn't really looked into flashing on my previous HTC device. Tweaking it didn't really have much of an effect, although it was slightly faster it was still slow, and i was presented with some memory leaks which ate my RAM up quickly and caused me to reboot it every other day.
As soon as i upgraded the ROM to the latest 1.93 (radio at 1.00.25.05) it was much much much faster, more stable and definately most of the memory leaks have been solved (though there are a tiny few left which i expect to be sorted in the next update), i haven't had to customize it or tweak it to as i did before. Upgrading the radio has also seemed to help the battery life and definately improved the GPS speeds, so i was glad i did this.
The speed is pretty much instantaneous and how it should be, so yes, i am definately happy with the purchase and hope there will be many more developments for it.
EDIT: Although my arguement is probably a bit off-center due to the fact i didn't tweak it because i am using a custom rom, generally all the 1.93 roms are pretty much the same with tiny tweaks which ultimately don't make that much difference and so don't be put off by this. I have also heard that the Stock 1.93 roms are also just as good, though i have not tried them as i am waiting for the T-Mobile one.

Thanks very much for the input. I am looking for something a little smaller than the Mogul that would do everything I want. I am sure I will regret getting rid of the slide out keyboard but it saves quite a bit in the thickness.
Not being able to upgrade the storage would be a problem if I used up the storage but I doubt I will.
Thanks again

Using 1.93 stock WWE ROM is US
I have the diamond with the WWE 1.93 ROM. I have quad band GSM for the US, but my version does not support 3G in the US, of course. The phone works great. General function are quick. EDGE is too slow for real web browsing use, but ok to find something need while out and about (i.e. address). We'll have to see when US 3G capable units become available and tested.

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Diamond speed...any complaints?

Hi all,
I am seriously considering getting one of these after they showed up in a shop here last week. I spent about ten minutes playing with it and was mightily impressed with the TF3D interace and the accelerometer ball game had me grinning like a schoolboy (haptic feedback kicks butt). One thing I noticed is that the main UI seemd to run pretty slow. It took about a second before the screen would slide to a new page when using gestures, is that normal? I suspect that it is probably a problem with the crummy ROM they had (the Chinese ROM's they put on HTC phones here are worthless, the Hermes was unuseable out of the box, which is is what lead me to find the gold-mine of geniuses here on XDA).
Anyway, to make a long post short, does anyone have any issues wtih speed on thier diamond? Anyone using anything other than a stock ROM at the moment? Thanks!
After having played with TF3D a bit (didn't care much for it), I personally use a "Clean" ROM from Panosha or bElite (plain WM61, without TF3D) and it runs very fast and has 70MB free with SBP Mobile Shell.
My diamond doesn't seem any faster than my old artemis. I've disabled touchflo 3D and it's still just as sluggish as any other slower CPU phone.
mital said:
My diamond doesn't seem any faster than my old artemis. I've disabled touchflo 3D and it's still just as sluggish as any other slower CPU phone.
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Have You changed your ROM, or is it the stock ROM?
currently using a cooked rom from the Dutty and Tom Project team diamond V2. With the TF3D in that is very fast, but that is due to the loss of some animation. such as side to side sweeping,
but that is something which i can live with.
mlalahoi said:
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(1) ... the accelerometer ball game had me grinning like a schoolboy (haptic feedback kicks butt).
(2) One thing I noticed is that the main UI seemd to run pretty slow. It took about a second before the screen would slide to a new page when using gestures, is that normal?
(3) I suspect that it is probably a problem with the crummy ROM they had (the Chinese ROM's they put on HTC phones here are worthless, the Hermes was unuseable out of the box, which is is what lead me to find the gold-mine of geniuses here on XDA).
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I am still with Hermes, but couple of weeks ago went with a friend to get for him Diamond (from ZGC )
This gave me the opportunity to play with original (English) Rom and Chinese one too. Diamond experience ~4+ hours
(1) I felt the same :
(2/3) No, it is not a problem of the "crummy ROM". Diamond performs very slow compared to my Hermes (customized ROM + modifications). My friend runs origianl ROM and is very jealeous about the responsivness and speed of old TyTN
(3) Yes, after I got the TyTN that was the reason to find XDA-Devs too
- My feeling is the interface on Diamond is tooo heavy, which causes raely slow performance. For me personally this device makes sense after getting some clean rom on it. Well, in case getting the device more on "cool factor" side, I think it is coool - but for working device I still preffer what I have now
(perosnaly prefer to wait for Raphael and X1, and then will make my mind about changing device)
As stated, Dutty's ROM shows significant improvements to the performance/speed/stability/touch-sensitivity of the Diamond. I had quite a few complaints myself, about the poor performance of the Diamond as it was OOTB - but I knew that there most likely would be when I bought the phone.. however, i ALSO knew that there were chefs and cooks in these forums who always impress us with their mad-ass skills in creating the best ROMs in terms of performance 'n prettiness. All hail the Diamond chefs and cooks! You've seriously gotten me falling in love with my Diamond even more.
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JeeHaa said:
After having played with TF3D a bit (didn't care much for it), I personally use a "Clean" ROM from Panosha or bElite (plain WM61, without TF3D) and it runs very fast and has 70MB free with SBP Mobile Shell.
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I am also using the Panosha Clean ROM and Mobile Shell 2.1 and the phone absolutely flies, it leaves my Cruise for dead. For me this is the fastest Wm6 phone I have ever owned and I have owned a heap of them.
THanks to everyone for all the responses, it's interesting that the TF3D seems to cause performance issues for a lot of people. That also dissapoints me a but as I was thinking of holding out for the touch-pro, but by checking pdadb.net I see that they will have the same processor so can probably expect similar performance issues....is that correct?
Also, I wasn't knocking all Chinese ROM's, there are some awesome ones out there and I have used several for my hermes, I was knocking the crummy ones the guy at my local shop seems to dig up.
Anyway I guess the thing to do is wait for the deelopers here to come up with a fast ROM for these devices that doesn't sacrifice TF3D. I am sure they will figure it out and I wil absolutely DONATE, as should everyone who keeps a ROM on thier phone for more than a few days. THe fact is that our devices would suck without the work of people in the community and we should give something back to those who put down hard-earned money to be the first to buy these phones and then spend the time to make them work for the rest of us. Just my 2 cents....

Frustration of updated ROM's...

I consider myself the type of person to be 'whoooed' by a gimmick. The iPhone user interface looked pretty nice, but I have been called Bill Gates love child on several occasions from certain people who know me personally and know of my love for Windows (Mobile and Desktop), the iPhone really was not a suitable product. I do like Windows Mobile. In fact I like it a lot. But it IS UGLY. So UGLY.
I have my fair share of experience with Windows Mobile, from 5 on my HTC Hermes then to 6 on the Touch, to 6.1 on my Touch Dual and now the Diamond. I purchased the Diamond for several reasons but the most important reasons were
1. The phone is beautiful.
2. TouchFlo 3D is beautiful.
Even though it did not cover 100% of Windows, most of the functions I regularly use were. The animations were great - I do love the 'fly in' and 'fly out' menus.
However after a while of use (especially when patience wears short after a few pints during those sociable moments), I found myself acknowledging the fact it was sluggish. So I decided to flash the device with cooked ROMs based on the 1.37 ROM's. Yes I did see a difference, but there are times when it would still run rather slow. OK, I thought, with the emergence of 1.93 ROM's, I immediately flashed my device. Very responsive now, but no menu animations? Just a fade in/out transition effect between menus?
I know this may sound rather anal (in fact it is), but I love the UI as it was. Now every cooked ROM is based on 1.93. Now the official HTC site offers the 1.93 ROM as an upgrade. I can't help but feel a tad upset that HTC have decided to 'optimise' the interface by removing components of it. I feel as though HTC themselves have indirectly publicly acknowledged that either a. the spec of the phone is insufficient or (which is most likely) b. that the software is too inefficient. Now I have a fair clue on how to find information and while searching for a 1.37 ROM, I found the stock 1.35 ROM. Just for a laugh I flashed my device with it. Just for a laugh....
Now it seems to me that this ROM runs better than the 1.37 ROM with the animations intact, not sure if anyone else has experienced this but overall I am rather disappointed on HTC's decision moving forward with TouchFlo3D is to sacrifice the UI presentation to improve responsiveness. HTC do not provide previous ROM versions (as far as I am aware), if someone were to flash the ROM and was unhappy with the result then it is not as easy as it could be to return to the stock ROM..
Lots of text for being about the 13231th person mentioning your core of the story.
Did you try (on your original rom) applying a few of the Diamond tweaks that are available? Those improve performance a bit, maybe not to the point of some of the newer ROMs, but may be good enough to have you feeling it's not as sluggish.
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Lots of text for being about the 13231th person mentioning your core of the story.
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What a totally random number, but palindromic too! lol - Made me chuckle at 2:24:22am!
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I can't help but feel a tad upset that HTC have decided to 'optimise' the interface by removing components of it. .
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Just out of curiousity, what components were removed. I didn't have the 1.35 around long enough to compare it to the 1.37.
Thanks,
Mark
Black93300ZX said:
Did you try (on your original rom) applying a few of the Diamond tweaks that are available? Those improve performance a bit, maybe not to the point of some of the newer ROMs, but may be good enough to have you feeling it's not as sluggish.
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I did not, because a majority of the cooked ROM's on offer already implemented registry tweaks so I just flashed a few of them. Diamond Project v1, bElite, etc.
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Just out of curiousity, what components were removed. I didn't have the 1.35 around long enough to compare it to the 1.37.
Thanks,
Mark
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I do not believe anything was removed from 1.37, I was referring to the removal of animations in 1.93. I will be sticking to 1.35 until the ROM's with TouchXperience emerge. I really would like to cover the Start menu and also settings control panel, PointUI does not seem to work on the Diamond.
Flash your device with a lite ROM based on 1.93 and diable TF3D. Install Spb Mobile Shell. A much much better GUI and which covers more functions than TF3D.

your Diamond experience requested.

Hi guys,
im an orange customer and I'm for a an upgrade next Thursday. I was hoping to get a Touch Pro, but they dont seem to be bringing that out just yet on Orange so my alternative is the diamond.
I have heard lots of horror stories on it being very laggy and un-responsive due the the lower hardware specs. this with the un-ability to use any MMC Cards was one of the reasons i was routing for the pro.
They have now released a new rom and this has improved things a lot i hear but of-course there is not upgrade for the orange rom other than using a cooked one i assume as the HTC official will not work.
my question... If I go for the Diamond, am I downgrading to much... should I just be patient and wait ? would you say its a worthwhile phone ?
Thanks for you replies in advance, and this is an opinion thread, no flaming someone for their opinion necessary. my spelling well thats another matter ....
While the TouchPro is definitely more powerful than Diamond, I have bought Diamond recently and don't have any performance or usability issues so far. I am using the ROM that came from Telstra and am quite happy with it but I suppose over time, I would still go to try out some cooked ROMs as I have been addicted to flashing with my Hermes for the last 2 years.
To be short: If you don't need a qwerty keyboard and if you don't need more than 4GB storage, buy the Diamond. Nothing else comes close.
All the negative things you've heard about like slowness and such can be solved by installing a custom ROM like SwiftBL 6.0. My Diamond is not only fast, it almost flies.
The screen is the best on the market, the interface is great, GPS is excellent etc. etc. etc.
The Diamond is the PDA better than I ever try to date ...
I abandoned my P3600 move to this concentration of technology and style and I have not yet repented ...
The battery does not last much, but on the site HTC sell at a price not excessive plus the battery.
I had heard about the slowness in response and fluidity of TF3D, but even without resorting to custom ROM, just act with a registry editor on the registry, change some value and that's it ... now is my finger that is not behind the TF3D.
If I may advise, order!
I'm sorry to ruin, but the device is slow.
Before the diamond I had an i-mate jam running windows mobile 2003SE, which should be slower than the diamond, it has
an 400MHz Xscale cpu but the OS / phone way more responsive.
In the diamond it takes me few clicks to answer a phone call, also few seconds to disconnect one also the random freezes.. oh the freezes.. jezz
this driving me crazy when I hit the START button and it takes ~2 seconds to understand..
(And yes, I use dutty's cooked rom V1.7 1.93 which is considered the fastest)
There are good things of course, like the screen which is perfect, the built in GPS which works flawlessly and the TF3D interface
which I hope some time will work faster..
Meanwhile, I still hope I would be able to install Android when it comes out.
Btw, the screen might be perfect but I've also had an iphone, and its a different touch
experience, the multi touch points on the screen and no pen needed to work around are great.
One more annoying thing is the mini-usb.. very pointless, why not to use the regular standard usb port :\
Overall, I'm not too happy mainly due to the performance issues.
WM6.1 is too heavy for this phone, imo.
I had the same issues, but with 1.37 ROM. I was quite disappointed until I upgraded to 1.93 ROM. Those just can't compare, everything is silky smooth and runs really really fast. Now I'm soo glad i bought the phone, it works flawlessly-TF3D and WM6.1...of course thanks to this brilliant forum!
Bottom line: With minor tweaks and some patience you will be more than satisfied with the device. I was sold to the design, now I am to the WM too...
Even if I remove the TF3D interface its still less responsive than needed so I dont know what are you talking
about and I'm also running 1.93 dutty's ROM v1.7.
The whole thing feels like VISTA vs XP in performance terms..
It depend if you are luky or not, my father has a diamond too and had problems with 1.37 and now with the 1.93 he has a lot more problems. For me that was realy good with the Rom 1.37 and now impossible to use GPS updates with the 1.93; two phones and two diffrent experience. Impossible to use Skype in phone to phone over IP but great with PC to phone. Now there is a lot of tweaks realy usefull and this phone is great with a long battery life (if you use what you need when you need). I hope that will help you.
@Delusionz
I really feel sorry to hear that, mate. I am now on the official WWE 1.93 and it's just another world compared to the previous. Everything seems the way i like, which is also great thing with WM, cause lots of things are customizable(+all those performance tweaks which are great). For instance, if i click Start button, it opens down immediately...no lags whatsoever. On 1.37 it was only question of time...Did you try any other ROMs too?
@dge
I had this quick gps problem too...but on 1.37...now it's all fine...i guess we mean the same thing...but long battery life is not its plus...with some tweaking 2 days...maybe 2 and 1/2 days...of course with medium to low usage...
this is not a chat room
every week somebody starts a thread like this...every week.
there is plenty of reviews on the net (try google) and plenty of threads on this subject.
here you have a small collection of related threads. i searched using the word opinion and i got: personal opinions, comparisons with iPhone, comparisons with omnia, problems, why some ppl love their diamond, why some hate it....lots and lots of info!!
try and search the info you need. read! read! this is not a chat room!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419563&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415151&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408477&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414619&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411682&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402458&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398786&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411791&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411830&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400304&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411478&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402321&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409022&highlight=opinion
no its not a chat room but....
a forum to discuss
chill out.....go have a cup of tea or something
Some of the alleged "slowness" is inherent to all Windows Mobile devices. 4 years ago, WM phones took 2 seconds to open startmenu-programs. Now, after all this improvement, they still take 2 seconds to open startmenu-programs. This is not Diamond's fault, but rather Microsoft's.
Where Diamond shines is in comparison to other WM phones on the market, not iPhone. If you want extreme speed, buy iPhone. If you want business features with extreme speed and don't need touchscreen, buy BlackBerry Bold. If you want Windows Mobile, but the Diamond. Simple as that...
thanks everyone for there opinions and advice if. Its one of the reasons i like this forum as "most" people are friendly and happy to give advice.
Im not an Iphone man, this will be my 4th HTC and 5th WM device so i understand all to well the slowness of WM and if the mutterings i heard were just concerning that and not the device hardware then i think im sold.
I think i will miss-out the SD Card Slot and TV-Out of the Pro but hey its free! I cant argue to much.
Thanks Again,
Check this out:
Plenty of happy owners.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415852
IMO best phone out there by far, and it does not stop there since the phone is new, everyday brings new tweaks and apps that make it even better.

I'm getting my MDA Compact IV tomorrow...what to do?

Hi all,
Well after much deliberation and hard choices I decided to go for the T-Mobile Compact IV due to being the best deal. I am returning to WM after 18 months ditching my 02 XDA mini s
I have been scouring these forums for weeks now to see what I can do right away to my new phone...
I want to obviously get rid of the Tmobile branded touch flo 3d..
Can you please report what best SPL's, Radios and ROM's are best for this particular device (i understand some radios work better for different carries, so obviously would like to know from experience who has best performance for tmobile).
I have searched and searched the forums, and with it being a MDA compact the answers are less definative for whats best and I just want to make sure.
I am aware of mikes thread with the compact he got for his gf but would like info in addition to this.
Would you reccomend me opening up the box and then just wiping the phone right away without using the tmobile version
Thanks for your help
Granty
I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that
all i can reccomend is Dutty's lite (+, of course, all what you prefer, all tweaks and other "must have")
radio? .05, .07, .08, .14 - it depends on many factors (country, city, operator etc) so we cannot surely say "this radio is THE BEST!
one is as sure as ****: debranding is necessity, radio rom .03 is the worst, T-Mobile ROM is also one piece of ****
Thanks for both of your replies. I have downloaded SwiftBL 7.5 while I was waiting for response, seemed one to go for. Download HardSPL - Diamond - Olinex- Hope thats the one to go for and also downloaded the radio .08 and BS14, will probs bang BS14 on and give that a go. Will let ya know my experiences tomorrow!
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I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that
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I too have had my mdac4 for a week or so. I tried the Swift rom and it was great to start with but then I lost all sound, although I did install other stuff afterwards which may have been to blame too. I ended up installing the paonosha rom and it has been very good so far, very quick and no gps lag
I'm using 08 radio
Well its here, TMobiles ROM is awful. If i didnt know about this site i'd have sent it back right away, so slow and unresponsive.
Gutted mobile.co.uk announced xperia today but oh well what can you do?
At least I got a decent deal on mine on a 12 month contract I suppose as opposed to an 18 month
I wouldn't go with the xperia even if the price is the same as diamond, touch pro would be the more reasonable choice to go.
had my MDA C4 for just over a month now and i can say a few things:
* I'm using Dutty's rom which is nice and stable and has all the default apps i need. Do not stay on the stock rom unless you have a death wish
* In terms of radio's, i'm on .08 at the moment but i'm just about to switch back as i can't seem to get a GPS lock on and i need it for TomTom. I was on .05 radio before and this was working perfect, and the battery life was also around the same as this .08
* If you have a later ROM version than 1.37 then please try and make a backup, i haven't come across any so far and it would be nice to have one if i have to revert back at some point!
* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents
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* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents
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As someone who is in a very similar position to Addictedddd, I echo his words of playing around.
I agree that most ROMs are similar with respect to tweaks, etc. Personally, I'm using Version 7.0 of SwiftBLs ROM. I know that this is not the latest (I think I posted somewhere recently that "newest is not necessarily the best") but it's the one that I most prefer - The one that feels right, if you like..
I've tried countless others but I always keep coming back to version 7.0..
I'm also running the 1.00.25.BS14 Radio on mine. Again, the 05 seemed OK, the 08 didn't change much but I pesonally noted a slight increase in signal with the BS14 so I stuck with it.
You need to play around with the Diamond and experiment with different programs and ROMs. Only this way will you find out what is best for you.
Finally, Don't forget to read. The Wiki has a great introduction for flashing. I've added a link below:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
Read it - I'd hate to see a post from you tomorrow saying "Help - I've Bricked it!!"
Take care and happy experimenting..
Right oh my findings..
Tmobile ROM...super slow, would have gone back if I didnt know how to change.
After much confusion of the guide saying there was a 1.40 SPL that wasnt developers I found out it was actually 1.30....
I tried installing BS14 radio with 1.30 but kept erroring at 0% (i wasnt even sure the SPL was installed right as it only took literally a second to update, even though bootloader confirmed it)
So after reading a few more peoples reports I went to HardSPL 1.40 developers (just make sure I don't do any dodgey roms) and installed the BS14 radio no problem, again the SPL updated quick taking only a second, then about a minute for the radio.
Installed swiftblade 7.5 which installed very quickly too, about 2 or 3 minutes, so much quicker than the Tmobile ROM.
Not sure how GPS lock is, havent got any sat nav software on, tried google maps which was instant but I take it that is using A-GPS.
Signal strength is not very good, 1 bar, might be my area, all other phones around here have full signal though so may just be tmobile. Will trial it for a bit but if it causes problems try 08 or 05.
I too have had my Compact IV for about a month now, also returning to WM after a stint with a Nokia N95 8Gb (Glad to be back!!). I did manage to refrain from flashing the ROM until today. I didn't have any problems with the T-Mobile ROM but have been reading the forums here and at Modaco and was interested to see if there really was that much of an improvement to be had. I have gone with TLR's Diamond ROM 3 and all i can say is wow!!, its only been a few hours so far but the entire phone is much slicker and quicker, there really is a big difference. I really must say thanks to Jockyw2001 and TheLoanRanger for their excellent work, and to everyone at XDA Developers and Modaco for sharing their experiences. I may well go on to try a few other ROM's but for now im glad to have taken the first step.

T-Mobile Official WinMo 6.5 for the Juno/Shadow!!!

Now that Tmo has made 6.5 available forthe Tp2 and Dash 3G. is it possible to somehow make that version work for the original Shadow? Seems to me like it should be a stable build? My wife has the Dash 3G and I've upgraded hers to 6.5, seems pretty sweet. I'm holding out for a snapdragon model but sure would like to upgrade my poor old Shadow somehow, without having to worry about this key not working and that function not performing correctly as I seem to read about from the ROMs that everyone else talks about. Help me out here!
You could always use the 6.5 ROM from Allshadow.com...I used it for nigh on 6 months without any real problems, only reason I stopped using it was when I upgraded phones heh.
Thanks for the reply ashasaur. I'll consider this but I'm still perplexed why an official ROM can't be reconfigured to use on my Shadow. There has got to be someone smarter than me that can do this!
Ah, I see. Well the main reason why the Shadow 07/09 will never get an official 6.5 from T-Mobile of course is because development for them from HTC stopped some time ago. The Shadow was never really a big time seller, and HTC is notorious for not supporting devices that don't sell well.
The other reason that an official-ish ROM is unlikely is because of hardware compatability between models. While it's true that the Snap/Dash 3G is technically just an upgraded Shadow, the hardware is COMPLETELY different.
So like I say, the unofficial AllShadow WM 6.5 is probably your best bet for 6.5 on the Shadow. While I can understand your want for an official ROM, custom ROMs are most of the time VASTLY superior to stock or official ROMs. Much less overhead, better preinstalled programs, no crapware etc. I would at least give it a try!
jce said:
Now that Tmo has made 6.5 available forthe Tp2 and Dash 3G. is it possible to somehow make that version work for the original Shadow? Seems to me like it should be a stable build? My wife has the Dash 3G and I've upgraded hers to 6.5, seems pretty sweet. I'm holding out for a snapdragon model but sure would like to upgrade my poor old Shadow somehow, without having to worry about this key not working and that function not performing correctly as I seem to read about from the ROMs that everyone else talks about. Help me out here!
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can u send me the rom
i have a stuck phone on boot
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not going on update

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