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Wow. Unbelievable how many threads are opened with problem with the newly released ROM at HTC-e Club. I downloaded my version too from that site the moment I saw announcement here. First of all, I did not get a mail from HTC at all, should have liked that in the first place.
I decided not yet to install. Luckily a good decision it seems according to that huge list of complaints.
Normally a forum is always only full of complaints, no one is posting when all things a good (enough), so that is not surprising me at all.
But of all users that installed this new ROM version, aren't there any people who are satisfied? That is what I was wondering. So just leave you name and a message here if all works well, so I can be convinced to also try this new version myself.
[Edit]Hopefully this list will be long [/Edit]
Apart from a few complaints that I had, I think that there are actually many things that are improved, for example the graphics when you turn portrait to landscape...and this is a remarkable one. And also, you are able to 'zoom in' in the latest Internet Explorer (WM6.1 standard one).
i was happy user with WM 2003, and later with WM2003 SE, and later with WM5, and later with WM6, and now with WM6.1... so you can say i'm a happy user in general i beleave you can be a happy user with any Mobile OS... i beleave is a choice...
Cheers
Very happy here. I'm running the official 6.1 ROM with the accompanying HTC SPL (overwriting the Hard SPL I used previously, as mine is a Vodafone branded phone) and it's far more responsive device - no more pauses or missed button presses, very little waiting around generally, and certain tasks like browsing files are markedly quicker. The new features (threaded SMS and improved IE) are good, having the camera and bluetooth fixes in ROM is worthwhile, and the whole package just feels like a much better, snappier device.
If I had to criticise it on anything, I'd say that at times the GPS can be slower to get a lock on - but then, at other times, it seems very quick - so I probably need to test that some more.
Im pretty happy myself
especially when I go from portrait to landscape
it loads up the screen real fast.
Found no grounds for complaints as of now (4 days and counting). Using the SWE version of the official update.
Happy user here!
corleno said:
Im pretty happy myself
especially when I go from portrait to landscape
it loads up the screen real fast.
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same here.
me happy 2
Yes I confim being happy by the new official 6.1 release from HTC ... I was never happy with any cooked rom except with only one 2003 rom I had to cook it myself to add certain applications I didn't want to loose them with hard reset ...
with so much due respect to all gurus and chefs here, but playing with the core components and registry tweaks are not gauarnteed to hold against all types of applications a user may decide to install later ... actually this is the main reason for most of complaints.
I only didn't like the new threaded sms, but it's only a matter of small tweak .. but all the rest is so fine for me.
After about 3 flashes. a lil bit contented... but not happy.
The only reason i stick with this official rom is because i am kind of a purist, there are other very good roms from various cooks on this forum. But i prefer this one becasue its just generic* and i consider it pure from the manufacturer without person tweaks as a result of peoples personal preferences.
Sorry, I'm NOT happy with the latest official HTC 6.1 ROM.
BUT, I'm running udK's Vega R0 WM6.1 ROM for weeks, and I'm very happy with that one!
I'm very happy with the original release! It's working very fast here.
My screen flips very fast too.
But if you were to try the HTC rom with the HTC SPL your opinion might change!
Personally, I think, like Boingg, that the new ROM is great PROVIDED you re-install the HTC SPL.
As another person also said, there are some very good cooked ROM's here, but while they introduce some speed/performance improvements, they can also introduce their own bugs. One cook in particular seems intent on providing quantity over quality by uploading a new ROM seemingly every hour - always amuses me when I read the responses, like 'What a great rom, I am wetting myself its sooooooo good!! - By the way, here's a list of the bugs I found' (This isn't a direct quote, but you get the idea!!). I think at the end of day that the ROM that has been designed for a particular device will always be better than one that has been manhandled from elsewhere - although some of the ported ROM's do get pretty close, there is always some niggle or other.
Anyway, I will stop rambling.... yes I am happy with the HTC ROM but I reserve the right to re-flash at any time!
I'm using the WWE version and am happy with it so far.
rubinho93 said:
I'm very happy with the original release! It's working very fast here.
My screen flips very fast too.
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lol ... it draws in the background and displays it latter
no not fast actually... same speed about 2~5 seconds depends @cache (I think)
Doemaarwat said:
Wow. Unbelievable how many threads are opened with problem with the newly released ROM at HTC-e Club. I downloaded my version too from that site the moment I saw announcement here. First of all, I did not get a mail from HTC at all, should have liked that in the first place.
I decided not yet to install. Luckily a good decision it seems according to that huge list of complaints.
Normally a forum is always only full of complaints, no one is posting when all things a good (enough), so that is not surprising me at all.
But of all users that installed this new ROM version, aren't there any people who are satisfied? That is what I was wondering. So just leave you name and a message here if all works well, so I can be convinced to also try this new version myself.
[Edit]Hopefully this list will be long [/Edit]
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Do you plan on doing something with this data/poll/etc....
Or is this a venting thread
This is a developer's forum .... not tech support or customer service
The purpose of this forum is to develop
If you've been around these devices for a while, you'll know that factory ROMz are the worst. Page Pools are set low, they contain alot of unwanted bloatware for compaines to brand their devices and as a result of this, storage space is low.
These ROMz however, provide a base for devlopers to work with. These are the ROMz that 95% of us have on our devices. On that note, we should be thankful that ROMz are updated by manufacturers....beacuase, again it provides raw materials to work with.
Try joining a manufacturer or carrier forum where thoughts & concerns of the ROMz in question can be viewed by representatives of the manufacturers.
Rom behavior:
There's no such thing as a perfect ROM. Some work better than others. What works good for me on my device may not work for you....
Factory or Cooked
D W N Y +1
Development is the name of the game. Move the thread to Walala land
And no, you should not be fooled feling "happy" with a glimp of possibilities provided by HTC. Nice quote "raw materials".
(and believe me, I DO know how they "develop" @ HTC here. They still learn from our own chefs (from outside the mouth of the horse)
I am Glad to see the WWE Official version out now.
Now that the Official version is out I will wait for our resident cooks to make a good rom out of it. Since the first day I got the Tilt I Hard SPL'ed it and got rid of the AT&T bloat and flashed a Schaps rom. I did try the new WWE from HTC but had some problems with it but I didn't take the time to try a different radio. So I am sure with the correct radio it would have been better then the one it came with. Depending on where you live your carrier and the service offered in your area have a lot to do with what radio works best. At least that has been my experience. But the one thing I know that is I seem to prefer the cooked roms if they use an official base. So I will wait and hopefully Schaps will be releasing soon. Thats my 2 cents!
Ed...
happy user, but could be happier.
Will there be an official Windows Mobile 6.1 for the Herald?
nope. just that easy
so basically, tmobile wing will not have windows 6.1 that is not cool
Well July 12 I will be on my iPhone then.
well before you jump ship, all the current custom roms are 6.1
try those
well i am not jumping mate, I have tried them, and the closest i have gotten with HTC herald upgrade from tylerC161 is error messages saying, the system cannot excute the specified file and then shuts off. i am new to this, so if you have any experience with one of them, please reference, i dont need tutorial, i can do it i am sure, there are just a million version in this forum and i have not been successful with three of them so far and it took me a 6 to eight hours by now. i am still not frustrated, more like eager to see one of them work and see how touchflo works on my wing before i buy an iphone.
i agree
Why is it that the wing wont get a 6.1 upgrade but people that have had wm5's were able to go to 6's from what ive read. whats the point of having windows default update software on there if there never gona let you have the updates ??? i want the 6.1 also. Ive tried a few roms myself and went back to factory settings because of minor but imoprtant errors.
in all honesty, the wing already has wm6. if you're mad about them getting wm6 from wm5, the jump form wm6 to 6.1 doesn't necessarily translate
and windows update for wm is one of those ideas that sounds nice but doesn't really quite work
ok but also
I heard wings arent gona be upgradeable to WM7 either so do you see what i mean ?
Yeah but the iPhone won't make the jump from whateverthehellitsOSiscalled to wm7 either
Also, why would you want to run the bloatware that is a stock TMO rom? I mean seriously, you can't deny the fact that your wing runs 800x faster as soon as you flash anybody's rom, let alone a slim/lite version of one of them.
If you're going to dump the wing in favor of a different device, at least just use a custom rom untill wm7 hits. Otherwise you'll be buying yet another phone.
idea
try flashing to open touch v3.0 slim, everything works and its vrey fast. any program that it doesnt have you can usually find for free. good luck and dont stick with the tmo os cause it for lack of a better word sucks.
I have been looking to upgrade my Tytn II to the latest ROM however I have not been able to get the upgrade it from HTC.
but its seems to not be there....
My system is
R 1..27.15.32
G 22.51.8.13H
D 1.82.00.00
Now I"m not sure what all those numbers ar efor but I know the R is for radio!!
I got lost after reading that bit... I was going to try to upgrade it myself but got confused so I stopped... trying and thought I'd wait till an update was available from HTC...
Well it seems its not to me anyways...
SO if there is anyone out there that can help me sort out an upgrade..
I live in Brisbane, and use optus as my carrier... my phone is unlocked as far as I know... I purchased it on the net from a Melbourne online store.
So help an Aussie if ya can.....
if you want to upgrade, then please start reading here.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
Why go to WM 6.1?
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6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
Yup tried reading that...
got lost as to what I need to match to what!!!
Like I said I'm looking for a some help to do this .
I"ll have another crack at it though see if I can make sense of any of it...
Peto01 man what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
More reading material
targ said:
what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
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Have a look at this thread about *hopeless* GPS after 6.1 update
The problem seems fairly widespread with TyTN II WM 6.1 updates. Since the ROM and Radio on your device seem to be from the Rogers network (as listed in the xda-dev wiki), that may explain why the generic HTC upgrade doesn't work for your device (only genuine HTC TyTN IIs will run the HTC upgrade as-is).
If you're just wanting to upgrade to WM 6.1 because it's the latest, you may be disappointed!
Useful!
I was browsing forum trying to see should I upgrade my stock 6.0 ROM to 6.1. Now I am sure that I will wait for couple more months (weeks?) !
I'm inclined to wait until the next ROM and Radio release has been tested/reviewed
I'm inclined to let someone else be the guinea pig regarding fixing the broken GPS. When a new ROM/Radio Combination is released on HTC eClub/Support, I'll check here to see how reports about GPS performance look and then when I'm sufficiently sure it's not still broken, will again jump over to WM 6.1.
Once bitten, twice shy and I don't want to have to get HTC to revert it to WM 6.0 again!
Flying Kiwi said:
Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
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I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
ach2 said:
I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
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I want to keep it all official HTC and not have to use hardspl at this stage, besides I prefer the look of the original HTC setup (themes, icons etc) over the customised Garmin DK3. The latest official HTC ROM for the device uses the same radio as you're using and I was far from satisfied with its reception instability compared to the old WM 6.0 setup. I've sent a letter to the big cheese at HTC so will wait and see what happens!
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network" (WTF) I bought a HTC Tytn II from a Retailer. surely this is not a fake HTC??
Should I be looking at taking it back?
Does this mean I don't have any Warrenty?
This would be why HTC said that the Upgrade is not a suitable for my unit... going by the S/N!!
What am I to DO now.
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
I"m rather intrested in the L26 TL ROM of Leo's
And if I understand it correctly I need to
1. run jump SPL
2. then flash the SPL that suits the rom I go for.
3. flash the Radio
4. Flash the ROM I have choisen.
Then hard reset.
IS that right?
or have I got the order wrong or missed a step.
Just trying to make a simple as I can..
Would my location and carrier make a difference as to which SPL, ROM, RADIO I use.
OH yeah !
What Does the R, D, and G mean...
Well, I finally did my first ROM change (to 6.1) and have to say I don't have any problems at all.
I have a T-mobile Vario 3, that although everything worked, I always found slow and buggy.
I went for Sleuths 6.1 V3 ROM, simply because I was a hermes user before and his stuff was always flawless.......and I was proved right again.
It's really simple to do, contains the correct radio (much better than the shipped one), and is really fast and stable. Had it a week and used it intensively - no problems with Tomtom or GPS - the same, if not better than it was before.
I would suggest, if you're not sure which one to go for then try this and see if it suits you.
Ok I tried to use the link in the WIki to the Jump SPL the latest one that only needs you to follow the on screen info..
And well according to the on screen prompts it must be done but as for the unit its self I don't hink so as nothing really happened on it... I"m thinking that the wizard does not like Vista or it does not like Sync Centre.
anyone able to help me out ....
No WTFs reqd after-all
targ said:
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network"
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Your Radio (R) is the same as that used by Rogers on their WM 6.0 ROMs. But you're right, I missed the bit about your 1.82 series ROM though so it looks more like you have the 3rd one down the wiki list of HTC WM 6.0 ROMs here and not the first: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Should I be looking at taking it back?
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Not if it currently works as you need it to but you could see what their explanation for why there is no WM 6.1 upgrade for your device yet is. HTC in Australia should also be able to advise you http://www.htc.com/au/about_htc.aspx?id=21840
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
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And some are so are you willing to take that risk as a newbie and get stuck with a non-original non-warrantable installation thats not straight forward to revert back to original WM 6.0 if it plays up for you? Is it not worth liasing with HTC first to see what they have to say about a possible WM 6.1 update if you're really that keen?
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
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Pass on the Radios but if history is anything to go by, there are a few different ROMs on that wiki page released for Australia. If you do a bit of searching around here I think you'll find cases of peoples non-Australian purchased TyTN IIs having problems when used there as well. I can't recall what the issues were but there definitely were issues (months ago before WM 6.1 came out on the Kaiser). Perhaps a search for Australia just in the Kaiser General or Kaiser ROM Dev forums may yeild results.
Thanks heaps I'll follow your leads Cheers
Hi, Ive been looking for hours on the web and this site for any way to completely flash my Telstra PDA 2K Evdo CDMA Harrier, I really like it and would just like to use it as a PDA, since CDMA was shut down in 2008 here in Australia (Yeah, I know sad). Any way I would really like to upgrade it to Android or WM 6.5. If I upgraded it to android I would need to still Access the internet through the cradle in order to download apps, since I cant obviously access the net through EVDO and there is no WIFI in this cdma version.
Thanks, any help appreciated.
Matt
matman101 said:
Hi, Ive been looking for hours on the web and this site for any way to completely flash my Telstra PDA 2K Evdo CDMA Harrier, I really like it and would just like to use it as a PDA, since CDMA was shut down in 2008 here in Australia (Yeah, I know sad). Any way I would really like to upgrade it to Android or WM 6.5. If I upgraded it to android I would need to still Access the internet through the cradle in order to download apps, since I cant obviously access the net through EVDO and there is no WIFI in this cdma version.
Thanks, any help appreciated.
Matt
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i don't no ! I think very good!
You sadly can't flash the harrier to 6.5, and the android port seems to have no one working on it, and is useless in its current form. It looks like you're stuck with a PDA and WM2003
Thanks for the reply, hopefully someone might want to port Android to it soon,
Thanks,
Matt
It seems to be the latest version supports CDMA Android why not port them) =
P.S. at the hands of 6600 now udmayu as if his brush.
I would try to port, if I could, I have no idea how to LOL.
Anyway if someone has done it could they post it here?
Thanks,
Matt
Sorry, but the BA development has been going down-hill lately (needless to say, the Harrier never really took off... no pun intended). Android had a few people excited when it was first spotted in the BA, but never got farther than that.
My hope's still there!!!!
why dont you just buy a blueangel with a cracked screen and swap the logicboard? or screen for that matter.
rgds
ares93 said:
why dont you just buy a blueangel with a cracked screen and swap the logicboard? or screen for that matter.
rgds
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Not a bad idea....
I actually have been stalking eBay for a while, for one with just a cracked screen, but still waiting (although alot of CDMA ones with cracked screens are avaliable)
But i really dont need it for "Cell Phone usage(calling etc)", I would just want to be able to use some android apps on it, because im not quite ready to give up my touch diamond for testing yet.
matman101 said:
I actually have been stalking eBay for a while, for one with just a cracked screen, but still waiting (although alot of CDMA ones with cracked screens are avaliable)
But i really dont need it for "Cell Phone usage(calling etc)", I would just want to be able to use some android apps on it, because im not quite ready to give up my touch diamond for testing yet.
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You have a working android port for the BA?!?! If you do, please share that.
nope, I was hoping some one was.
matman101 said:
nope, I was hoping some one was.
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There are a few Linux OSs that will work with the BA such as QTopia, but other than that the Android port never came to becoming real due to lack of developers interested in porting the drivers for it.
actually its a HTC Harier (so its cdma) and what i've heard is that most "os' that have been made for the blue angel dont work on the CDMA versions.
thanks
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
Put Hardspl on your phone and you can test yourself You can always go back to the 6.1 rom.
is there a stock manila 2.5 ROM offered by t-mo?
if not, 2.5 + CHT is definately worth using the HTC ROM.
I would not mess with Sense 2.5 unless it is cooked. You need a lot of tweaks to make it run smoothly on the TP2, especially in HTC messaging. I am using a cooked version of the T-Mobile stock rom with Sense 2.1, has been the best and most stable rom for me yet. Sense 2.5 is good if you don't mind giving up some performance for new features. Sense 2.1 is what our devices run best with. Hope this helps you decide.
EDIT: In comparison to WinMo 6.1 with TF3D, upgrading to 6.5 with Sense2.1 will in my opinion make the device run smoother. 6.1 is a very solid OS and works well with TouchFlo to make scrolling much easier. However, I say if you can upgrade the device to 6.5 without losing performance go for it because it is much better integrated than TouchFlo, making the touch experience much better. Through my testing, the TP2 functions best with WinMo 6.5 with Sense2.1. The newer WinMo builds are probably better off using on the HD2 and other high performance devices. Same thing with Sense2.5, it can run smoothly but you will be giving up some speed as well as memory and battery life. I have come to terms with my phone, lol... Nothing beyond Sense2.1 and WM6.5 from now on. But you have to test on your own to see which you like better. Good luck!
I've been cooking own ROM for a few weeks now, and it's a T-Mobile no frills ROM.
It's not quite finished, but it's very stable and the battery life is excellent. I could always use another tester if you're interested.
krodby said:
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
EDIT: I used the official T-Mobile for several weeks, it is OK. I'm on NRG now.
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
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You would have to hard SPL to use the HTC ROM.
The Official WM 6.5 is a sense 2.1 version, but you would not need to hard SPL.
Thanks for all of your help!
I'm still not sure what i'll do for now, but i'll probably end up just biting the bullet and becoming an addict. I'll start with the official sh!t and gateway into flashing every stable rom that exists lol.