Bluetooth PAN and Mac OSX not working - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi,
I'm trying to use the Bluetooth PAN setting in the Internet Sharing program with a Macbook (Mac OS X 10.5.4). I successfully paired the laptop and Kaiser. I start Internet Sharing on the Kaiser, go to the Bluetooth icon in OSX, click Tilt and click Connect to Network. This doesn't seem to work. Does anyone have suggestions?
I can successfully get it working with Windows XP so I'm guessing it's OSX's fault?
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Might anyone have an idea, or maybe the better question is has anyone ever gotten Bluetooth PAN working with OSX?

anonova said:
Might anyone have an idea, or maybe the better question is has anyone ever gotten Bluetooth PAN working with OSX?
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It works for me on a mbpro with 10.5.5. It's been a while since I've set it up, but I don't remember doing anything special to get it working.

Make sure you set your shared internet connection to the correct setting ( Media Net or My ISP )
I have found that tethering using MY ISP works the best and seems to have a tad less latency.
I am running a MB Pro C2D with 10.5.3
My "Hack Pro " is running 10.5.2 and is also tethering with no issues.
P.S.
One more thing. Make sure the phone is set to Visible. Although you can pair it , if its not in Visible mode, it will NOT work
Do you get a connection and it just wont give you an active connection or does your laptop attempt to tether and give a network connection error ?

Here's how I'm trying everything. The device and computer are already paired. The device is visible.
Open Internet Sharing.
Set PC Connection to Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection to MEdia Net.
I tap connect, and the status changes to "Device setup finished. On the PC, connect Bluetooth PAN."
On the Macbook, I click the Bluetooth icon on the menu bar, hover over the device's name, and click Connect to Network.
On the device, the status changes to "Connected."
When doing this in Windows, that's it. I can open up a browser, and the internet is working fine. But on my Macbook, I open up a browser, and I'm not connected to anything. I open up the Network preference pane, and nothing is connected. OSX doesn't see the Bluetooth PAN profile is maybe the problem?

anonova said:
Here's how I'm trying everything. The device and computer are already paired. The device is visible.
Open Internet Sharing.
Set PC Connection to Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection to MEdia Net.
I tap connect, and the status changes to "Device setup finished. On the PC, connect Bluetooth PAN."
On the Macbook, I click the Bluetooth icon on the menu bar, hover over the device's name, and click Connect to Network.
On the device, the status changes to "Connected."
When doing this in Windows, that's it. I can open up a browser, and the internet is working fine. But on my Macbook, I open up a browser, and I'm not connected to anything. I open up the Network preference pane, and nothing is connected. OSX doesn't see the Bluetooth PAN profile is maybe the problem?
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Ahhhhh When you pair the phone to the mac, make sure you have internet sharing enabled on the phone before you go into pair mode. Otherwise mac osx doesnt see the PAN capability. I think thats what I had to do.

I tried with Internet Sharing pre-connected, but it still didn't work. I did get it working though! In the network connections, Bluetooth does not equal Bluetooth PAN. I went to the little plus at the bottom, and specifically added a Bluetooth PAN interface, and it picked the device up.
Thanks for all of the help!

anonova said:
I tried with Internet Sharing pre-connected, but it still didn't work. I did get it working though! In the network connections, Bluetooth does not equal Bluetooth PAN. I went to the little plus at the bottom, and specifically added a Bluetooth PAN interface, and it picked the device up.
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Unfortunately, I am on HTC Touch with a WM6.5 ROM, and even though I added the Bluetooth PAN interface manually, my Mac is still not picking up the phone, even though it's been paired successfully and Internet Sharing pre-connected.

OK this is for last year but just in case someone else searches for this a solution I found a while back
Added step open "com port 1" on the WM, not sure where I found that, otherwise the mac keeps "dialing" and the phone says "???? no need to dial, 3G not modem"
These steps work for me on SE Xeperia1 with WM 6.5 and Mac 10.5.8.
http://www.hightechdad.com/2007/05/...sharing-from-windows-mobile-6-to-mac-os-1049/
"Now with Windows Mobile 6, Bluetooth PAN (Personal Area Network) is used. So, if you are on Mac OS 10.4.9, you now have the ability to use a Network Port called “Bluetooth PAN.” Here are the high-level steps you use to enable your Bluetooth Internet Sharing:
1. Turn on Bluetooth and BT discovery on both your WM6 device and your Mac
2. Set up a Pairing between the two devices
My steps + Setup Bluetooth from Phone to Mac. Do it form the phone to the mac not the other way around.
+ Opem Comm port one from Phone bluetooth setup.
3. Enable the Bluetooth PAN port under your Mac’s Network Preferences (Network Port Configurations) by clicking the checkbox
4. Ensure that your devices are “talking together”
5. Start “Internet Sharing” on your WM6 device and click “Connect”
6. On your Mac, it is helpful having the “Show Bluetooth status in the menu bar” enabled
7. On your Mac, from the Bluetooth menu, select “Join Network on [WM6 device]“
8. That is it! (You should have internet connectivity on your Mac, provided you have good signal on your WM6 device). You can even verify that you got an IP address from your WM6 device by going to Network control panel and selecting Bluetooth PAN. Mine shows a 192.168.0.XXX number.
I hope that works. This is a good tip to know if you travel a lot and don’t want to pay for the expensive hotel internet services. Just plug power into your phone and your laptop, connect and you have “dialup” speeds for no additional costs!
If you have questions, write a comment below. If this works for you, DIGG it!
Don’t forget, you will drain your battery pretty quickly and use a lot of bandwidth from your cellular provider (especially if your internet service has a cap)."

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internet connection sharing

has anyone tried internet connection sharing via HSPDA to a PC using activesync or bluetooth yet? any issues?
I use USB/ActiveSync and it works fine.
Just follow the manual. I followed it and got no problem.
One thing though, in the manual, it said "execute 3gnetopt.exe in the PC to optimize it for 3G connection".
It seems, after that it changed the routing automatically and can slow down your internet connection when not using the ICC via PDA.
Well, that's easy, just disable the "additional" network interface in the PC.
i could get the usb internet sharing to work but bluetooth internet sharing doesnt work. my pc is able to detect a local bluetooth pan network without internet access. anyone got their bluetooth/internet to work?
I have internet sharing working via bluetooth on a tablet and laptop (both running XP). First I tried DUN and it worked which suprised me. Then I set up a PAN connection and got Internet sharing running. After that DUN will no longer work, it looks like it trys but then fails. But Internet Sharing is faster and works fine over bluetooth.
It can be tedious at first, you need to create a BT PAN Connection on the PC, you need to create a BT partnership with the Kaiser in your Bluetooth manager on the PC. You need to set the Kaiser's Internet sharing to "Bluetooth PAN" and have the Network connection set to go to your ISP's GPRS internet AP.
Once I have PAN setup on the PC, it's showing "Network Cable Unplugged"
I then Start the Kaiser's Internet Sharing and press connect, it starts a GPRS connection.
I then open the Bluetooth Manager on the PC, select the Kaiser's Connection Icon, right click and select connect.
Then the two devices connect and I'm off and running.
With 3G I have been able to answer calls and talk on my Jawbone BT headset while still connected to the PC via BT as well, pretty much MAGIC
bluetooth still cant work with those instructions, i'll just stick to USB for now.
how do I ensure that HSPDA is working and its not just 3G?
My 3G icon changes to H when it connects hi-Speed. I'm wondering what Bluetooth Stack your PC has, I had issues with my tablet and Hermes until I got new BT Drivers from Fujitsu support. Your PC may need updated BT profiles? My laptop is Dell (uses a Toshiba BT Stack), the tablet is Fujitsu (also Toshiba BT Stack). Just a thought.
On the Plus side, using a USB cable will keep the phone charged, which is good because HSPDA is a power hog anyway.
i'm using a bluetooth dongle with my PC running vista
Both USB and BT ICS work great for me. I've used it on Edge, 3G, and HSDPA.
Both USB and BT ICS work great for me. I've used it on Edge
Internet sharing only working on 2G and not 3G
I am connected right now via internet sharing using my USB cable. However, this is working only if I have a 2G signal showing on my tytnII. When I am in a 3G location, the internet sharing program sits with the message "waiting for network"....this is just after the message "checking USB cable".
I have tried many things including a hard-reset, not having a full sync relationship between the PC, just connected etc. All to no avail.
I am using a new Dell laptop running Vista Ultimate.
Unlike previous PDAs I've had, I don't know a way to force the tytn II to stay on 2G, so when I am at work in a 3G environment, I cannot get internet sharing to work.
Help!

Bluetooth PAN and Vista

Thus far, I've been unable to use my AT&T Tilt as a wireless modem for my Vista laptop. I've partnered them in the MS Bluetooth Stack, then gone to Windows --> Internet sharing and set it to bluetooth pan and media net, then on my computer, gone to "connect to" and opened the bluetooth pan connection. Unfortunately, at this point, my phone doesn't show up as a devic for bluetooth pan. If anyone can offer up some advice, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
I would also like to add that Bluetooth PAN also doesn't work for me in XP (SP2). It doesn't show up in the the Bluetooth Device Wizard (the one used to add devices with PAN services), but clearly broadcasting is enabled in the options.
Also, just as a side note, I can't get USB tethering to work either...I'd really appreciate any help I can get with this tethering problem. Thanks.
Got it working. I have no idea why, but for some reason when i tried repairing it for the sixth time or so, vista suddenly decided it had drivers to install for my tilt, and it went ahead and installed the modem driver. now everything seems to be working.
By Bluetooth or USB? Or did you get both working?
Why bother with Bluetooth or USB headaches?? Just use WMWiFiRouter and connect to your phone over Wifi.

Gremote Installation / setup Issue

Hey guys , so i have a netbook with bluetooth (lenovo S10) and my HTC touch Pro. I wanted to control my netbook with myphone using Gremote either via bluetooth or wifi.
First, i tried the bluetooth method. I followed the instrution at the main site and got all the way until i have to setup a PAN in my netbook. However i couldn't find any option to setup a PAN so i couldn't control my netbook with myphone via bluetooth.
Then i proceded to create an ad-hoc wifi network from my netbook. I made it's SSID and then set it as not using any encryption and the network key is automatically provided by windows. My phone detected the network and connected successfully to it. Both had ip's for within the network. Now the Gremote server is already running in my computer. I started the Gremote app in my phone and then went on to create a profile. When i press the FIND button (to search for the ip address) it says couldn't find ip. However in my netbook, The Gremote server shows in it's log file that it received request search from [my phone's ip here].
What is wrong? My netbook seems to be detecting my phone attempting to connect to it but the gremote app on my phone shows that it couldn't find anything?
P/s: I've tried manually key-ing the ipaddress and it didn't work.
Ive had that issue before and other issue with the app. Its strange, one day it will just start working.
For the bluetooth, make sure you have a serial port open, but i have yet to see a bluetooth stack on a PC that doesnt have an option to activate PAN.
With the wifi, you said you manually keyed it in, are you getting that IP from the status page on the gremote server app? make sure you have that port open as well, i think its 5656 or something.
you should try to
1. connect to your PC using a router
2. Drop the wep encyption on your adhoc connection
3. use a static IP for your PC
4. have your phone connected to the wifi connection for atleast 20 seconds before you try to initiate control with gremote.
ive used gremote on 2 laptops and a PC. the PC is my home PC which is the only one that has given me an issue. Regardless, it works now. One day it just started working. on the PC i can use gremote through my router wifi, adhoc connection straight to it, or bluetooth pan. On my laptop i use it through router wifi and adhoc without ever having an issue. on my sisters laptop ive used it with a adhoc connection......still no issue.
Keep messing with it. The only problems ive ever had seemed to have worked themselves out after a couple days.
Thanks YL Groper. Actually about 2 nights ago, i was playing around and it most certainly worked suddenly.
I made a standard Ad hoc network (open without encryption) and let it run. However my computer couldn't detect the network (which was created from the computer). Then i input the SSID to my Touch Pro, and it found the network. After being connected to the network, my computer found the network as well and begin to connect to it. Once it got the ip, my phone could retrieve the ip from the computer and now i have no problem

[Q] Tether instead of wifi???

Just wondering if there is a way to tether to a computer with a wired connection to get Internet connection that way, instead of using wifi??? There is lots of apps and stuff that need to connect to the internet to download, but I dont have the wifi's at home.
And if not, is it a hardware limitation, or software???
as far as i know there is no way to get internet to your phone through usb cable.
you can probably work around it if you have a laptop wired to the internet or a wifi stick. you should be able to setup a hotspot through windows to share your wired connection over wifi.
If you are on Froyo, it is built in.
If you are on Eclair, use Acer EasyLink:
(credits to navygino on MoDaCo for figuring everything out):
1) Download & install this program, http://global-download.acer.com/GDF...uid&Step3=Liquid&OS=A01&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_6
(I did this on Vista) Device Manager-->Modem-->Acer Android Modem-->Advanced-->enter the sting: +CGDCONT=1,”IP”,”apn name”
2) Open the Acer EasyLink software
3) Go to Settings
-The number is just *99#
-Make sure everything else is correct
Ohhhh sorry thats for wired tethering, using your mobile network on your computer.
As far as using your computers wired connection, I have no clue.
i know that monoxide.tryst is probably gone but for anyone else.
if you want internet on your device you can share your wired network to your phone if you have a laptop/wireless adapter.
Windows 7
go to "network and sharing center"
>on the left "Manage Wireless Networks"
>>click "Add"
>>>"Create an ad hoc network"
>>>>Put in SSID and Security code
>>>>>"next" and then select "Share my internet Connection"
This will setup a wireless hotspot from your laptop/adapter using your wired internet connection. Which then you can use your phone to connect too.

Bluetooth: Will not connect to Win7 PC

I can pair my Velocity (Telstra Oz Branding still with stock OS) with a Windows 7 32-Bit pc but it will not connect. During installation (& under Device Manager), I get warning that Windows could not find the driver for "Bluetooth Peripheral Device".
I have no issues with pairing or connecting other devices on either the Velocity or the PC - it's just between the Velocity and the PC. I've just come from the HD2 so I'm a newb with this Handset which was fine.
I can on the PC "send a file" to the phone just fine but no PAN or tethering...or are these features not yet part of Andriod 2.3.7 or is there some setting I don't know about?
Thanks
Nathan
jmone said:
I can pair my Velocity (Telstra Oz Branding still with stock OS) with a Windows 7 32-Bit pc but it will not connect. During installation (& under Device Manager), I get warning that Windows could not find the driver for "Bluetooth Peripheral Device".
I have no issues with pairing or connecting other devices on either the Velocity or the PC - it's just between the Velocity and the PC. I've just come from the HD2 so I'm a newb with this Handset which was fine.
I can on the PC "send a file" to the phone just fine but no PAN or tethering...or are these features not yet part of Andriod 2.3.7 or is there some setting I don't know about?
Thanks
Nathan
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Had the same issue with mine.
1. Instal HTC Sync
2. Pair set your phone discoverable.
3. Search for bluetooth devices from your PC.
4. Select your phone.
5. After pairing your mobile go to
Start->Devices and Printers right click on your phone name Properties then Services tab, choose only
Advanced Audio - tick if your bluetooth pc is compatible or leave it blank
EMAIL - leave blank
File Transfer (Obex) - tick
Headset Audio Gateway - tick if your bluetooth pc is compatible or leave it blank
Object Push (Obex) - tick
Remotely Controllable Device - tick if your bluetooth pc is compatible or leave it blank
SMS - leave blank.
Then on your PC right click on Bluetooth icon choose Join Area Network and select your phone.
Hope it will help. This resolved my issue.
But just to let you know My HTC Raider is not able to receive *.apk extension over bluetooth. MP3, jpg perfect.
Mmmm looks like my handset is only advertising that it has EMAIL and SMS as "Services" to the PC. Do you know if I need to install anything on the Handset?
Thanks
Nathan
I don't know what PAN is, or maybe I just dont recognize the acronym, but you should use the wireless hotspot for tethering, much, much, much, faster than BT.
FYI - Straight from Wikipedia:
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Bluetooth vs. Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11)
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (the brand name for products using IEEE 802.11 standards) have some similar applications: setting up networks, printing, or transferring files. Wi-Fi is intended as a replacement for cabling for general local area network access in work areas. This category of applications is sometimes called wireless local area networks (WLAN). Bluetooth was intended for portable equipment and its applications. The category of applications is outlined as the wireless personal area network (WPAN). Bluetooth is a replacement for cabling in a variety of personally carried applications in any setting and can also support fixed location applications such as smart energy functionality in the home (thermostats, etc.).
Wi-Fi is a wireless version of a common wired Ethernet network, and requires configuration to set up shared resources, transmit files, and to set up audio links (for example, headsets and hands-free devices). Wi-Fi uses the same radio frequencies as Bluetooth, but with higher power, resulting in higher bit rates and better range from the base station. The nearest equivalents in Bluetooth are the DUN profile, which allows devices to act as modem interfaces, and the PAN profile, which allows for ad-hoc networking.[citation needed]
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One benefit of Bluetooth is it chews much less power as the range is limited. I'm guessing the profile is not in 3.2 of Andriod so I'll wait and see what ICS brings.
jmone said:
Mmmm looks like my handset is only advertising that it has EMAIL and SMS as "Services" to the PC. Do you know if I need to install anything on the Handset?
Thanks
Nathan
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Hello, have you got installed drivers for your bluetooth dongle? it looks like there is only basic microsoft service/driver automaticly installed. Usualy bluetooth module has got Broadcom chipset. Try to find out what make it is in device manager on your PC. Did you try to pair another handset to your pc? If behaviour is the same on your PC that means you need drivers for your bluetooth module. Check if cd was included with bluetooth when you bought it.
Yeah on my HD2 (WinMo 6.5) I get DUN and PAN (Windows Bluetooth services reports the device supports DUN, SPP, Telephony). On my Tab I get DUN (Windows Bluetooth services reports the device supports DUN). On my Velocity I get sod all (Windows Bluetooth services reports the device supports Email and SMS).
Win Device Mgr reports my BT Radios as Apple Braodcom Built In and the MS Bluetooth Enumerator.
Thanks
Nathan
I usually just tether via wifi and charge it off the usb still, then i can have it plugged up to power but if I need to take a call I can always disconnect it breifly without interuption to the internet... I've never really gotten on well with BT, I always found it cumbersome... that and my main laptop doesnt have BT... so wifi or usb is the only option

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