Hi , does anyone know if its possible to attach an external antenna ( for the cell phone not the gps or wifi ) on an htc magic. Im guessing it would have to connect thru the mini usb port. Cant seem to find my answer, I only come accross passive repeaters. Thank you
Bump. I'm interested in actually modding the phone if needed.
doubt it, magic is one of the phones that have the lowest amount of mods in the market (the tmobile mytouch variation only has 1 legitamate carrier for housings for example). plus the antenna is a sticker-- open up your backdoor, two stickers by the camera. but I suggest to get a better signal dont put your hand on the top by the camera while texting or calling, and take off any cover you may have on the back like pouches and etc...
wow, no wonder the signal it pulls is so weak
idk what you guys are talking about, the signal is great for me. My gf has the slide and i always have one signal lvl better than her. (3g>edge)
The stickers by the camera are for Bluetooth and GPS. How do I know? Cause the part number is printed on them. 'Amphenol-BT-090601' and 'Amphenol-GPS-090601'
freddudek said:
The stickers by the camera are for Bluetooth and GPS. How do I know? Cause the part number is printed on them. 'Amphenol-BT-090601' and 'Amphenol-GPS-090601'
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freddudek said:
The stickers by the camera are for Bluetooth and GPS. How do I know? Cause the part number is printed on them. 'Amphenol-BT-090601' and 'Amphenol-GPS-090601'
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So where is the phones antenna located at?
Maybe it is a coxial cable located inside the phone.
So as we are all aware, the captivate does not have a front facing camera. This doesn't bother me considering I never video chat. However, that may not be the same case for others. I was thinking today, computers and laptops have plugin webcams for USB ports. Why not smartphones? It could plug right into the top of the phone via the micro USB port and be the size of something like a wireless mouse receiver for a laptop. Could something like this physically be done? I know people who could do the physical part of the work like make the actual prototype, but would any coding/scripting need to be done inside the phone? I think it something alot of people want/need and could be profitable if successful. Share your opinions. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum or is a prepost...
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So as we are all aware, the captivate does not have a front facing camera. This doesn't bother me considering I never video chat. However, that may not be the same case for others. I was thinking today, computers and laptops have plugin webcams for USB ports. Why not smartphones? It could plug right into the top of the phone via the micro USB port and be the size of something like a wireless mouse receiver for a laptop. Could something like this physically be done? I know people who could do the physical part of the work like make the actual prototype, but would any coding/scripting need to be done inside the phone? I think it something alot of people want/need and could be profitable if successful. Share your opinions. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum or is a prepost...
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I think if people are going to have to carry around a separate piece of equipment for video chat, they may as well not worry about software and just use one of those mirror attachments I have seen out there. Then you'd have a 5 MP FFC instead of a 1.3 MP one like most FFCs.
I for one would like that feature. It will be a while before I can upgrade again to a newer phone that has video chat and such. I don't know coding and such but I couldn't see why someone couldn't create an app that can be installed with said hardware if one was made. I too think something like that would be awesome. I can't see why if one can be added onto a laptop ( that doesn't already have one) with the added program files why something like that wouldn't work here.
I wouldn't mind carrying a extra bit of hardware with me. I mean I already bring with me an extra battery charger and my bluetooth and wired headsets. It wouldn't be something that would be used all the time. Another feature that our cpativates are lacking that could be added is a led light for when using the webcam. I have thought about making a case or something that has a led light that can (at least) run off a seperate battery and have a switch to turn on the light. But if something could. E done with a webcam that has a light also ( possibly a swivel webcam that rotates so you can either use it for video chat or as a seperate video camera) then you could have the led light turn on when needed for the camera or video functions. Good luck and make millions$. I am sure something like that could be a big seller for even cross platforms for phones that do not have video webcam/ chat or at least for all the android phones that don't.
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It is possible. Just need someone to work on it. See the link in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872377
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It is possible. Just need someone to work on it. See the link in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872377
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Sounds like we should start a bounty. I'd love to be able to attach a MIDI controller.
The camera really would not need to be that big. If you look at the size of the camera night now its basically as big as a shirt button. I was thinking if you used something like a JIG but with a small camera on top it really should be no bigger then a quarter. Personally I be willing to pay maybe $100 for a little plug in video camera like that.
I would really like to see something like what the Motorola Atrix has going on with the ability to connect to a computer a basically have the Android OS running as separate OS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWIe8wQBqS0&hd=1
That would be a great idea.... But its probably done, just some product marketing guy needs to say ok sell it....
Cause doesn't the new google laptop have a webcam? That webcam piece is the size of strip of gum usually. Just need the connector and done.
I would much rather have some sort of small mirror/prism attachment that would piggy-back on the top of the phone, feeding my image into the already existing image into the camera.
Heck,
would sitting in front of a mirror and using skype/qik work?
Hi Folks,
I have created this thread to both discuss the possibility of and working to add back, the original 5MP rear camera to the Asus nexus 7 tablet that Google had Asus remove from the retail device.
This is essentially a continuation of the posts I started in the Asus ME370T Schematics thread .
This is what I've done so far:
- Purchased a Nexus 7 with a cracked touch surface as my hardware hacking device. It works with a usb mouse just great :laugh:
- Purchased a used Asus TF-101 5MP rear camera module from Ebay
- Studied the Nexus schematics (available here) and created small schematic sub-sheets specifically for the camera and power circuits
- Inspected both the camera module pins and the rear CON3 connector pins on the Nexus PCB - they match 100% electrically
- Recovered a connector from an old DVD drive for installation at CON3 - (Newark wants $15 S&H for a $2 part)
What needs to be done next:
- Remove the shields from the Nexus PCB and determine if there are any surface mount components that are missing that will prevent the rear camera from working.
- If parts are missing - use the available schematics (Nexus and other) to make an educated guess of what parts are missing and install them.
- Check the system logs to see how the front camera shows up when detected.
- Install the connector at CON3
- Boot the device and verify the front camera still works
- Install and verify the camera module is seated properly and there is a proper electrical connection to CON3.
- Boot up the unit and check the system logs to see if the rear camera is detected.
- Determine if the front camera still works.
At this point, since there is no driver for a rear camera in the Nexus 7, I will need to find the driver for it from the TF-101 ICS or JB ROM in addition to determining what configuration files need to be modified/created.
These are the schematics and photos I have so far and have attached below:
-rear camera (CON3) pinouts, camera power circuits, picture showing the TF-101 5MP module beside CON3, front camera pinouts
Please note
- I am NOT willing to modify any on else's Nexus if this works. I'm in Canada and it's too much of a hassle (and expensive) to ship stuff around up here. Besides, the front glass is just too fragile on these devices.
- This project is not for the weekend experimenter - I use a microscope and special soldering equipment when working on devices like this. If all you have is a solder gun/pencil, this project is not for you.
- I make no representations of fitness for any particular use and if you attempt to 'play' or modify your Nexus 7 following any details provided in this thread, you will be totally responsible for everything (good or bad) that happens to your device. That is why I purchased a partially broken device ($50 on Ebay) specifically to play with.
So, who IS this project for?
- It's for all the experienced hardware hackers out there who are able to work with devices like the Nexus 7 without destroying anything and want to 'play' with their toys!
- It's also for any software types who would be happy to help with the driver and config files to get a rear camera functional. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm a hardware guy - always have been - always will be.
The Camera Module:
The current REAR camera module as specified in the schematics is an OV5650. There has been some talk of using an OV5640 or OV5642. The FRONT camera module is an Aptina 1040.
The issue with this is the modules need to have the exact same electrical pinout as CON3. Maybe someone can find a source for replacement TF-101 rear camera modules out of Asia?
There was also some talk of the front 1.2MP camera using the same electrical (MIPI) interface with 24pins but having a different pin assignment for the data lines. If that's the case, then theoretically, one should be able to re-wire an additional front camera to CON3 and you should be able to use both.
Another item of note is the camera configuration file in /system. It appears that one of the directives in addition to 'front' & 'rear' is 'USB'.
Does that mean with the right driver, USB camera and OTG connector we can use external cameras with the Nexus 7?
If indeed we can, then we don't need to hack CON3 and instead, use an external high-res USB camera.
Unfortunately, the device uses USB v2.0 so an external camera would probably suffer from a slow frame rate - or would it?
This is what this thread is about - playing with the Nexus 7 to add either a rear camera internally or externally.
Comments? Questions? Additions? Drivers?
Very neat. Following this thread
Use an iPhone 4 rear 5MP camera module?
Now this is interesting....
The ME370T schematics for the Nexus 7 specify the rear camera module as being an OV5650.
This document claims the iPhone 4's rear camera module is ALSO the OV5650 as do a number of other teardown reports.
In addition, the iPhone's module has an LED flash!
Ebay has a pile of vendors that sell the iPhone 4 rear camera module very cheaply.
In fact this vendor has them new for $2.50 as of Nov 13/12.
Of course you need to remember that the pinout is completely different.
Anyone have the iPhone 4 schematics for the rear camera?
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Now this is interesting....
The ME370T schematics for the Nexus 7 specify the rear camera module as being an OV5650.
This document claims the iPhone 4's rear camera module is ALSO the OV5650 as do a number of other teardown reports.
In addition, the iPhone's module has an LED flash!
Ebay has a pile of vendors that sell the iPhone 4 rear camera module very cheaply.
In fact this vendor has them new for $2.50 as of Nov 13/12.
Of course you need to remember that the pinout is completely different.
Anyone have the iPhone 4 schematics for the rear camera?
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I would not waste time on a ovt module for the iphone. It very likely is a custom module with who knows what inside. If you get lucky, you will get the sensor up and running, but forget about the AF VCM and the DSP operation. The module might be labeled 5650, but I guarantee you that it was a custom job for Apple. If you look at the grouper kernel source tree, there is ov5650.c, but this driver is bare-bones. All it has the inits for the different resolutions and read/write gain and exposure functions.
My suggestion is to first try to integrate a lower-end ovt module that has a public driver and that you know the pinout to. If I find sombody local in socal that can solder the surface mount for me, I will try to integrate the ov5642 because I have the full schematics and the driver already written. After that the next step will be to try to integrate a higher end module, most likely something based on the imx105 from Sony.
If you comfortable compiling drivers, take a look at the ov5642 for a DellStreak5. The kernel that has been open sourced by Dell, has the full driver including the firmware for the micro that controls the AF VCM.
Cool...Nice to hear that,Good luck mate for ur success.
my two cents
would it be possible to flip the front cam around or something? like take the front cam then make a cable or resolder the connector on the other side, something like that.
you might also be able to make something like the vainworks stand but that makes a back cam, not front; or something.
I dont really know, just throwing out ideas here.
good luck!
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would it be possible to flip the front cam around or something? like take the front cam then make a cable or resolder the connector on the other side, something like that.
you might also be able to make something like the vainworks stand but that makes a back cam, not front; or something.
I dont really know, just throwing out ideas here.
good luck!
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I looked at the full schematics again and it appears the front camera uses 1 serial data pair whereas the rear uses 2 serial pairs. It might still be possible to use a front camera on the rear but since the TF101 camera is already the one that appears to be a drop-in, I'll stick with that for now.
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I would not waste time on a ovt module for the iphone. It very likely is a custom module with who knows what inside. If you get lucky, you will get the sensor up and running, but forget about the AF VCM and the DSP operation. The module might be labeled 5650, but I guarantee you that it was a custom job for Apple. If you look at the grouper kernel source tree, there is ov5650.c, but this driver is bare-bones. All it has the inits for the different resolutions and read/write gain and exposure functions.
My suggestion is to first try to integrate a lower-end ovt module that has a public driver and that you know the pinout to. If I find sombody local in socal that can solder the surface mount for me, I will try to integrate the ov5642 because I have the full schematics and the driver already written. After that the next step will be to try to integrate a higher end module, most likely something based on the imx105 from Sony.
If you comfortable compiling drivers, take a look at the ov5642 for a DellStreak5. The kernel that has been open sourced by Dell, has the full driver including the firmware for the micro that controls the AF VCM.
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I understand, but at $2.50 ea, I ordered one to play with.
One trick I've developed to interconnect devices that use flex cables is to use an intermediate flex as an adapter.
That is to say, I grab a flex cable used in a DVD/CD drive, slice it down to the correct pin width and then create offset solder tabs along the cable by scraping off the protective plastic covering. See photo below.
Yes, I may probably get signal reflections ocurring if the data rates are high, but that is the chance I'm willing to take. It just makes interfacing so much cheaper and simpler. Again, you need a very fine soldering tip (0.3mm) and a microscope to work with this.
I've also included photos of the TF-101 5MP camera for the part numbers.
As I mentioned previously, it would be nice to find an inexpensive source for the TF-101 5MP camera modules.
Hopefully, someone will be able to identify the module from the part numbers below.
UPDATE: I just Googled the flex number and up pops the module, for sale from Asus in Europe of all places. A little pricey though:
CAMERA MODULE 5.0M PIXEL
Product Info
Order number: 04G625000810
Type: CAMERA
Description: LITEON/10P2SA511
Price Info: 37.03 Eur
Hi,
is it possible to create a video input (HDMI or Composite) instead of rear camera??
audiophile1 said:
Hi,
is it possible to create a video input (HDMI or Composite) instead of rear camera??
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That would require making a new thread at the risk of becoming off topic.
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I was hoping that this thread would show up eventually. I added a front facing cam to my Vibrant, but it looks like this might be a little more complicated.
Good luck, I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
Does anybody have a N7 with a broken screen that they would like to sell to help the cause? I have a mint conditions N7 and would rather keep it that way
Thanks
Gotta love that XDA community.
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Does anybody have a N7 with a broken screen that they would like to sell to help the cause? I have a mint conditions N7 and would rather keep it that way
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997273
Check with this guy, he broke his screen, maybe he'd be willing to sell it.
raf1hh said:
Does anybody have a N7 with a broken screen that they would like to sell to help the cause? I have a mint conditions N7 and would rather keep it that way
Thanks
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Check out Kijiji and Ebay - I picked up one from each for an average of $60.
Both are 16GB units with cracked touchscreens.
Everything else works on them and I've been using them with USB mice.
You just need to be patient.
In the last week, Newark Electronics has reduced its shipping charge to Canada from $15 down to $8.
This means I will now order the proper 24pin FPC connectors I need for CON3.
In case anyone else is thinking of ordering these connectors, they are here.
The connector needs to have the pins inside along the top, not the bottom.
I'm going to wait until Black Friday though as Newark a bunch of other stuff on sale I need.
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Check out Kijiji and Ebay - I picked up one from each for an average of $60.
Both are 16GB units with cracked touchscreens.
Everything else works on them and I've been using them with USB mice.
You just need to be patient.
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Thanks, I got one of ebay yesterday for 71 bucks. I also found a shop that will do the surface mount connector for me next week.
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Thanks, I got one of ebay yesterday for 71 bucks. I also found a shop that will do the surface mount connector for me next week.
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All you need now is the 5MP rear camera module from a TF-101 tablet.
I scored one on ebay for 99 cents (but $8 shipping).
Remember that you need a connector that has the internal pins across the top, not the bottom. Look at the photo of the camera module in my 1st post. The flex cable pins face up when the module is mounted.
I had hoped to sell my busted screen N7 (8 gig) for $75-100....
Might not be realistic though. I am buying a new tablet, and this broken one needs a good home... I only used it for 4 days before it broke.
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All you need now is the 5MP rear camera module from a TF-101 tablet.
I scored one on ebay for 99 cents (but $8 shipping).
Remember that you need a connector that has the internal pins across the top, not the bottom. Look at the photo of the camera module in my 1st post. The flex cable pins face up when the module is mounted.
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I'm hoping to reuse an existing ov5642 module + flash board that I have laying around. Hopefully my new tablet will get here next week so I can get started on this project. Btw, did you probe your board already, are the schematics valid?
I currently have xperia z. Very bugged by the back plate ungluing problem. I am planning to get the xperia z1. Does it have any such problems like ungluing and how is the audio quality ( Speker)?
The FBI can get your fingerprint with satellite off the back of it, thats the only problem with the back! and the audio is not so great for a phone but definitely one of the bests I know out of a waterproof speaker (considering its size)... but the camera is bugging me hard, so much noise...
Certainly you can, the easiest (legal) way to obtain it is by using an exchange medium such as money, then simply enter any outlet selling the item and offer up your cash. Alternatively you could sell an organ, but I suggest the first option.
On a serious note, I bought it and love it, it is stylish, great display (on mine anyway) great camera (in manual mode) audio via speaker is fine as good as or better than my S4, audio via headset is absolutely superb, compares to both HTC One and S4. As for the housing issues I do believe they have been sorted out and upgraded hence the higher IP waterproof rating.