Reception Problem - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi, I have a kaiser that has been dropped and there is really weak to no signal reception whatsoever and also the wifi reception is weak as well. What do you think is wrong with it? Is it the internal antenna?? Also I have the service manual, but I was wondering what the reciever was? Was it for the gps or wifi or phone reception? Please help and thank you.

redenvy5 said:
Hi, I have a kaiser that has been dropped and there is really weak to no signal reception whatsoever and also the wifi reception is weak as well. What do you think is wrong with it? Is it the internal antenna?? Also I have the service manual, but I was wondering what the reciever was? Was it for the gps or wifi or phone reception? Please help and thank you.
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If you know anything about electronics, there are some disassmbly pictures here and here. You might be able to see something loose of disconnected.
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Dave

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Wifi signal gone

When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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Have you put the slider to best performance rather than best battery?
Yes i did
never had the problem with the tytn and wizard.
I only get that on my TyTN II when I'm far away from the router and the signal strength is low. If you've already set the performance vs battery life slider to give maximum performance as suggested by kareem9nba and it's still behaving as reported, what happens when you're near to the router?
If it's just that your saying the range isn't as good as youve been used to with other devices, I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with as this is my first WiFi capable ppc - but I'm sure other more experienced members here will be able to comment. If you're near to the router where there's no doubt it should be working fine and still getting problems then thats a different matter.
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
mospantagruel said:
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
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All other devices doenst have the problem output signal is ok but i ll try peekpocket
Flying Kiwi said:
I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with
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I do! My Kaiser's performance is on a par with my old HTC Universal, which is to say, they are both terrible at getting a signal. I don't think my Kaiser is faulty as back in the Universal forums, it was often commented how useless the WiFi was in comparison to other machines. I used to have a HP Ipaq 5450 which could get a signal upto approx 20m from my router, my laptop starts struggling at around 50m. The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
I think the WiFi on the Universal and the Kaiser just isn't that powerful. I guess it's Maximum Performance setting is still quite low power in order to save battery life. Wonder if there is a registry tweek to increase the power to the WiFi card, and if doing that would blow the card?!
Steve-C said:
The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
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I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage) and even with a wall and a floor between my TyTN II and the router it still works about 15 m away, I've yet to try any further as that'd be outside the house. I was impressed to see it even detected other WiFi sources in the area though. I found that even though the signal quality bar was fluctuating, my web browsing still worked OK. Bumping the slider towards the performance end did make a difference to the signal quality indicator (although it still fluctuated). If your TyTN II is only working up to 4 m from your router then I think there's a fault with either device, you should be getting better than that.
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
Flying Kiwi said:
I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage)
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Funny that, so am I! However I bought it because it was cheap and I really didn't know much about WiFi etc several years ago when I bought it. I notice many routers come with external antenna's, mine is all internal so I would think that it's more my router isn't that powerful, combined with the Kaiser having a less powerful WiFi set-up that older models. To be fair, the Ipaq had an external antenna (of sorts, a little lump on top) and my previous laptops didn't have built in WiFi, their external WiFi adaptors also had external antenna's.
Frankly I think that all this internalisation of components is having a negative impact on signal strength and range. To compare I have a GSM car kit with an external antenna that picks up a much better signal than a phone on it's own. Likewise my GPS can be connected to an external antenna and I've noticed when connected it will pick up more satalites, with a stronger lock, than when on it's built in antenna. It also picks up more than the Kaiser (internal antenna) or Universal (external bluetooth GPS with internal antenna) ever do.
Still, it all just about works for my needs, so I'm going to leave well alone!
Juzzman said:
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
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i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
checked
i checked signal and even did hard reset on kaiser.
i still have full signal and goes to zero all the time
no clue here
eipiklein said:
i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
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But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
Flying Kiwi said:
But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
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really i can't connect to my wifi router, while other hardware can (a laptop for example). it loops from "connecting" to "available" with 5 bars. but nevers connect or never shows an error. i tried open, WEP, WPA, WPA2 with no results... its a compatibility problem of TYTN II with some routers....
i hope that upgrading firmware, this problem dissapear....
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My experience isn't that the signal itself is particlarly poor, but that it can be prone to loose connection regularly if its very weak. Atm I'm sitting some 150m from the accesspoint (quite powerfull transmitter), through a couple of concrete walls and its fast, as in almost so fast as the Kaiser can chew. Livestreaming from Youtube is np etc. The signal is no doubt very poor tho, and I have to use max signal/minimum battery on that bar you can adjust.
What drives me nuts is that it DCs me and often force me to key in the network key randomly every 1 to 20mins or so. I don't know if this is due to weak signal (both my laptop and the kaiser have 1 bar) or config of the wlan/kaiser. The PC dont DC, but its deffo a cranky connection. It almost seems like theres some auto-DC feature somewhere.
On other networks I haven't seen this. Generally I find the Kaiser wlan surprisingly powerfull, albeit it often shows a weak signal I've found this to be very relative and far from always descriptive of real life performance.
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kaiser wifi low signal - wi fi poor reception - wifi disconnecting and reconnecting:
Suffered a lot with my kaiser wifi poor reception. Tested several radio versions and could solve the problem.
Radio version:
1 71 09 01 - too low WIFI reception
1.27.12.11 - disconnecting and turning OFF the WIFI with no automatic reengage of the access point or turning ON the WIFI if coverage is good.
1.65.17.56 is the versione that SOLVED my problem.
This radio was collected from the original HTC shipped rom:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
In this moment I am running Radio 1.65.17.56 with
ROM jjblaster3 - updated 28014 with good WIFI behaviour.
I need to underline that the reception I have now with the Kaiser, can never reach the sensibility of my Nokia 5530 WIFI or the one I have on my laptop with good antenna embeded in my LCD framem but I am happy now because the WIFI is making sense now.
Best Regards
cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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I'm facing the same problem. WiFi worked fine and one day it was suddenly gone. Tried quite a few radios, including 1.65.17.56 and still no deal.
To elaborate, when WiFi is turned on, the icon never even comes up in the taskbar, and it continues to remain in an off state (when checked in wifi settings) even when it's turned on (in the comm manager).
I'm guessing this could be a hardware problem like a loose contact to the antenna? Anyone heard of such issues?
(On a side note, the phone function never worked either, I always got a "No Service")
I've fixed it! I believe the problem was indeed a loose antenna. I opened up my phone and removed the antenna peice (the plastic plate that also houses the speaker) and pushed up the two pins left of the camera (so that they'll have better contact with the antenna piece. Put everything back and now the WiFi works!
Now if only I can figure out why the cellular doesn't work..

Very weak WiFi signal/disconnects often

I'm having a problem with my diamond, at work I connect to the wifi hotspot there but I don't get very good signal, tested with another device(ipod touch) and it has full signal and works without disconnecting. Mine disconnects randomly when it looses the signal completely. I'm using stock wwe 1.93 rom with radio 1.08.25.08. Is there a way to make Wifi work better? Maybe changing the radio will fix it? I saw in another thread that weak wifi signal would be the cause of a disconnected wifi antenna inside the phone. I really don't wanna slice open my phone as I'm pretty noob at this. Any other recommendations would be great! Thanks in advance
does anybody know how to try and fix this?
try your Wifi with an AP at home and if you have the same problem, use your warranty. You can try with the programm Wififofum to see the Db that your phone is indicating near the AP (10->80 DB ( 80 is far of the AP)). I hope it will help you.

Are you happy with WIFI reception?

Today I try register TD2 on my university's WIFI system.
The authentication of this system IEEE 802.1x so I need to type ID and password for log-in.
When I used P3600 (trinity,wm5), Registry was okay and I can use in its coverage well.
However TD2 has trouble, when I loged in the wireless system, it suddenly disconnected during type ID or Password. (I solved it by ID copy & Paste) Also, I feel it does not catch WIFI signal well.
After then, I try test two device in my home.
My home has BT Broadband hub1 and I compared Signal Quality graph.
At the weakest aerial area, I cannot see any graph on TD2 but P3600 shows short green graph. By the way, TD2 catch the signal earlier than P3600.
Ok... This situation might be understand but when I put two mobiles in front of Hub (Wireless modem), I found slightly strange result.
The graph of P3600 is full-filled as expected but the graph of TD2 isn't. I think the graph of TD2 is reached almost 80%.
I wish it should be covered by Rom update but if this situation suffered just my device, I concern MY 2nd TD2 has problem. (Of course, I believe I over-worried)
How do you feel the WIFI reception of your Touch Diamond 2?
(P.S.) Sorry, my English is not fluent.
I received my D2 today and have been playing with it by having it connected to my home wifi network. The reception seems fine but occasionally I do see it resync. Suppose it could be better but it hasn't failed on me, so I'm happy neither the less.
EDIT: I had further play with wifi and yes I agree the reception is poor
I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.
gadgetgaz said:
I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.
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The condition of test was same condition as possible.
Strength Slider is same 'Best for Battery' and P3600 graph is better than Touch Diamond2.
gadgetgaz said:
I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.
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Yeah gave that a go little to no difference mate.
I've got my TD2 since 5 days, and while I am very please with it overall, I agree the wifi reception is poor...
The signal strength is much lower and I loose connection much faster than a laptop...which is probably normal, but reception is also poorer compared to my "old" acer n311 PDA, which is about 2-3 year old...
Reception seems to improve when antenna is not covered by your hand, but unfortunately, as the antena is at the bottom of the TD2, near the mini-USB connector, your hand is almost always over it when you hold the device in one hand....
I have also observed the "never-perfect reception" phenomenon, I can go 1m from my wifi router and be at 80% signal strength only...I would have maxed out signal quality of my laptop much much earlier than that of course...
I hope it will get better, maybe with a radio update, but I fear this is purely hardware driven, so I will just to have to live with it. Too bad, as I typically use my phone/PDA in "wardriving/warwalking" situation, trying to pick the occasional free wifi to download emails and browse during hollidays. I usually have a laptop in situation where I have a secured wifi acces with clean signal...and at home/work, nothing beat a wired gigabit workstation LOL...
Personally, I haven't had any issues with WIFI on my TD2. I have the wifi battery slider set in the middle and I connect first time, everytime to the router at home and at work.

Possible fix to reception issues (UPDATE SOON)

Hey guys, I just increased my overall signal for my htc incredible S to 79dBm.
Now i have 4 bars instead of 2 .
Fix is easy:
You need a strip of foil, scissors and tape.
Now my palm doesn't decrease signal anymore.
I'm just wondering what i can use instead of foil, which one has less resistance.
I know gold and silver does, but hey those are way too expensive .
After getting enough responses, i will rewrite this and add [TUTORIAL] line.
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UPDATED:
I'm using latest radio now, signal still low without attached cover modification, but with it I get significant signal increase.
I post step by step tutorial later! Stay tuned guys.
Is it possible to use this solution for WiFi problems as well?
If you could elaborate on what you actually did?
And what was the problem you had that prompted this?
i don't seem to be having any problem with reception atm...
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
_Flea_ said:
Is it possible to use this solution for WiFi problems as well?
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Yes, Wi-Fi antenna is upper.
letmedanz said:
If you could elaborate on what you actually did?
And what was the problem you had that prompted this?
i don't seem to be having any problem with reception atm...
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I brought antenna up from palm location (Otherwise signal decreased dramatically), I'm just thinking what material have better +dBm, Getting +10dBm would be awesome .
Why i made this topic was comparison with my and my friend's phone. He have Nokia Xpressmusic, i have Inc S, and he had 5 of 5, i had 1 out of 4 atm. I try to find out material resistances. Copper wire or alu must be OK.
Gotta go to football match, See ya later!
henrylife said:
Yes, Wi-Fi antenna is upper.
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Going to try it now!
FIX for wifi problems
_Flea_ said:
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
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For WIFI problems go to
Settings> Wireless & networks > Wi-Fi Settings> Press the menu button > Advanced and then select Best Wi-Fi performance.
Enes_81 said:
For WIFI problems go to
Settings> Wireless & networks > Wi-Fi Settings> Press the menu button > Advanced and then select Best Wi-Fi performance.
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Already tried that. Very bad reception. Keep losing signal. Doesn't reconnect
Looks like it has some kind of deathgrip.
_Flea_ said:
Already tried that. Very bad reception. Keep losing signal. Doesn't reconnect
Looks like it has some kind of deathgrip.
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Try without holding your palm on cover, still poor signal?
And how many metres is your router away, is this forced with 100% output power?`
Try with other devices, if still persists then this may be caused from corrupted Radio.
Hope I helped.
henrylife said:
Try without holding your palm on cover, still poor signal?
And how many metres is your router away, is this forced with 100% output power?`
Try with other devices, if still persists then this may be caused from corrupted Radio.
Hope I helped.
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It's quite a distances to the router.
Is there a possibility to reflash the phone?
Death grip here too. Would appreciate a solution.
Select settings: wireless & networks: mobile networks: gsm and wcdma.
Next select settings: about phone: network.
Hold in hand and see connection drop to 0asu eventually.
incredible s
_Flea_ said:
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
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The GB update seems to have raised the "signal strength minimum value", so that it shuts down wi-fi at a higher signal strength than on 2.2.
it seems to be part of android 2.3
This should explain why when I tested Incredible S (with 2.2) and the Desire S (with 2.3) side by side, the Desire S dropped the wifi connection while the incredible S held the connection. (I was testing on a network with very poor signal)
Now, as it too got 2.3 - it seems the Incredible S has gotten as "bad" as the desire s.......
I hope many people report this to HTC. I did.
_Flea_ said:
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
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PLease tell me if it helped.
It looks like the reception is better in the house. So yes it works.
In my bedroom I went from 2 bars to 3 bars.
Could any of you who have the wi-fi issue try this with a different router?
It is possible the router may be faulty, or as already pointed out, the distance may be over what the router covers.
if not, this seems to be quite an issue which will need to be looked into
Ok, I´ve done a hard reset and it seems to be improved.
WiFi signal switches from fair to good and back. So I´m fine with it.
letmedanz said:
Could any of you who have the wi-fi issue try this with a different router?
It is possible the router may be faulty, or as already pointed out, the distance may be over what the router covers.
if not, this seems to be quite an issue which will need to be looked into
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No no, before the update, I had connection in my bed. After update - same location - wifi disconnects. Signal strenght seems the same.
It's not the router.....
Guys, we have the same problem with the Desire S (chech the forums) after the 2.3.3 update. It's very likely software related (phone dropping the connect after it's under certain signal value ... viva la HTC update).
Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061502&page=3
I tried it but it doesn't seem to affect my signal strengt. Signal still changes between 51 dBm and 88 dBm.
better conductor
henrylife said:
Hey guys, I just increased my overall signal for my htc incredible S to 79dBm.
Now i have 4 bars instead of 2 .
Fix is easy:
You need a strip of foil, scissors and tape.
Now my palm doesn't decrease signal anymore.
I'm just wondering what i can use instead of foil, which one has less resistance.
I know gold and silver does, but hey those are way too expensive .
After getting enough responses, i will rewrite this and add [TUTORIAL] line.
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i Believe copper will work much better but its much harder to find in a thin "foil" form
btw i havnt found a design that increases reception yet but if you hold the phone upside down it helps

Bad WIFI signal

Hi guys
Ive been using galaxy S for a while but my wifi signal strength is very poor. I had many other phones, but the wifi strength has never been this bad. I get just one signal bar when Im in the next room from the router and the phone even disconnects very often. Could this be caused by modem version? Could you please suggest me some good modem I can use?
Thank you very much.
imfromczechbaby said:
Hi guys
Ive been using galaxy S for a while but my wifi signal strength is very poor. I had many other phones, but the wifi strength has never been this bad. I get just one signal bar when Im in the next room from the router and the phone even disconnects very often. Could this be caused by modem version? Could you please suggest me some good modem I can use?
Thank you very much.
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you must be more specific what rom you use and what smalband version otherwise we can't help you

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