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Hi Guys
I'm thinking of upgrading my Polaris to a Diamond and just wondering if you guys are still happy with the Diamond and do ya think an upgrade from my Polaris is worth while.
The Diamond spec and looks seem brilliant but the only thing am a bit concerned about is the small 4gb memory it has, is this a problem or do you just learn to live with it.
Thanks
Tim
I never had a polaris, but this phone is brilliant, best phone available. IMO obviously. 4gb is LOTS of space. i have an ipod touch for all my music and video needs.
I am qualified to answer this one.... (hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while)
I've upgraded from an HTC P3600-> P3650->P3700. Each time the upgrade was better but I have to say when I upgraded to the Diamond, I love the phone but was sadly disappointed with it's speed.
Because of the processor, I thought I would get a faster phone.... it's terribly slow compared to the P3650.
In fact, I actually made a post this last Friday asking if there was any tweaking I could do to make it faster.
I ended up installing Duttythroy's new ROM and IT FLIES. All I can say is this phone now performs the way it should have from the factory.
I even did the #1 tweak on the top tweak list for the Diamond (a sticky) on top of his ROM and it seems even faster.
I hated clicking on the "people" tab and having to wait until my contact list would appear. I made that post Friday and if by tonight I hadn't been able to do something about it, I was going to put it on ebay and buy an iphone.
All I can say is I'm glad I installed the ROM. The memory usage is great, the 4g internal memory is plenty, the phone is slick and I really like it now.... by far the best phone I've owned.
You won't regret getting it.
Mark
PS. I sold my P3650 on ebay and got just shy of 500 bucks out of it.
I used the polaris for a short period and own quite a few WM smartphones over the last few years and I would definitely recommend the upgrade. Yes the tflo3d was somewhat sluggish before but now it's all changed. I am using bepes rom and it's as smooth as butter. The thing with diamond is, it keeps on getting better each day, thanks to xda dev and it's valuable contributers. As for the 4gb storage, I keep a lot of stuff in there (lots of apps, 100's of pics and mp3's and a few movies :s) and its only over half full.
Anyway find out all about the phone and decide if you want it or not. If possible try going to a store to test one out before you make up your mind. And oh yh, You will love the display, it's just too good.
Regards,
AF241
I don't even know what the Polaris is so can't say whether or not an upgrade is recommended but I came from the N95 and don't regret it a bit.
Some reasons to get a Diamond - High res screen perfect for browsing and films, a back button - very useful to backstep in any application, a Home button - Returns you to your Today screen instantly, a SCROLL WHEEL!!!! wow!!! zoom in and out of photos and web pages with ease and with reg files from here you can use it for your contacts and various other apps and the best thing about the Diamond... a great community here to help you with any issues and provide you with new apps/ROMS to try in the quest to find the best.
Yes... I've had my Diamond for 6 days now and it's the best Windows mobile phone I've had. Only downsides the good-looking but not customisable TF3D and the battery. However, with the extended one coming out (or out already?) it should be fine.
Go for it...
Thanks for the help guys I think am hooked now I just have to decide where to get one from.
T-Mobiles MDA Compact IV
O2 XDA Ignito (Out Soon)
Expansys HTC Diamond
Never bought a rebranded (MDA,XDA) PDA before so do you lose or gain anything with regards to hardware or software.
Software I’m not too bothered about as I’ll probably just upgrade my ROM from this forum anyway.
Thanks
Tim
Yes........
yes
you know it makes sence
Curious
I know that it's a bit off topic, but like the poster, I'm about to upgrade my phone.
And I've been using WM based devices for a looooong while, so I would like to keep using WM based phones.
Now apart from Diamond there are other phones out there with WM that came out recently.
Samsung Omnia i900
Toshiba Portege G810
Both use WM6.1 just like Diamond.
Now I don't know if there are any users here of the Samsung and Toshiba phones, but if there are...how would you compare Diamond with them?
Around threee months after the launch it still has many problems:
The interface is still slow.
The battery life is still poor.
The cover still collects fingerprints like a magnet.
The storage is still not upgradable.
... and it's still the BEST frikking phone on the market. If you're gonna upgrade, you really have no better choice.
Just a simple answer
Its the best upgrade
Hey mates,
I dont know the actuall Phones on the market , so i thought you guys can maybe help me out.
I am looking for a good sucessor to my Kaiser. I really love this phone but its already 2 years old now and well my phone looks like somekind of trash .
Also i got massive problems in the last time , dunno why. I am using the Ultimate X2 roms at the moment. But it seems that i sometimes cannot open my contacts or run programs.
So i like to get a new phone cause my phone contract is going to run out also.
I was thinking about the X2 but it seems to be tooooo pricie :/.
Do you guys have any nice suggestions what phone i should get ? A must have is a qwertz keyboard
Thanks
HTC
Device database is good to get the full specs
TP2 if outa price range then the Raphael is still an extremely good phone.
Re: Kaiser hard-reset or flash another ROM...
Raphael can be had for about £160 on eBay, simply unlock it if required & use whatever network provider takes your fancy.
Most other keyboard options are going to be pricey but if your thinking of starting a contract soon you might find a reasonable deal !
You could keep the Kaiser, reflash it with a stable ROM & buy & fit a new complete housing for it !
The Verizon Droid comes out on the 6th in the US. Not sure if you are looking to stick with an HTC device or Windows Mobile. It's only going to be $199 rather than the TP2 which is as much as $350. It's got a similar processor and google maps turn-by-turn directions. And....it has a directional pad, if you can't live without that.
Check it out: http://phones.verizonwireless.com/motorola/droid/
Touch pro 2 is the best successor. I dont think the droid fits the title of "successor" when talking about the kaiser. The touch pro2 retains the tilting screen, windows mobile operating system, and of course the slide out qwerty.
I have had my Kaiser for over two years now and have used it on a daily basis for all kinds of tasks. It has not let me down so far. I have looked at other phones, such as the touch pro 2 and Omnia 2, but I can't think of a good reason for replacing my Kaiser. Its simply a great phone - built like a brick **** house (as we say in the UK) and packed with useful features. Its the best phone I have ever owned.
Good phone, shame about aspects of the company
I still use mine daily and it was delivered on 1 Oct 2007 so I have much the same view about the device, not the company though. I tried the WM 6.1 updates and went back due to bugs and broken GPS (which they still didn't address in the newer WM 6.1 upgrade). I also hate the fact HTC didn't include proper video drivers to use the onboard GPU hardware acceleration (and didn't listen when loads of people complained - a patch to speed up screen orientation changes is not the same as proper drivers to give better video playback and snappy GUI functioning). They also tried to deny the phone even had the hardware to perform grapics acceleration. These are reasons why I wont buy another HTC device - especially given there's no easy way to tell if they've done the same thing again to penny pinch on drivers with newer models. This behaviour and the fact I never received replies to my letters about it sent special delivery to the regional company manager, left a very bad taste in my mouth about the company.
Ill have to third that ^_^ I hacked up the iphone and sold it after 2 weeks.. Blackberry lasted ONE DAY! And my search for a "transformer phone" continued! I bought a Kaiser used on CL and I havent put it down since and after finding this forum I cant help but showcase it to the world!
Hail to the Kaiser!
Gotta say, the Tilt 2 is looking mighty tempting to me Although I can get top-notch snappy ROMs on my kaiser, and true web surfing is for computers anyway, so why upgrade?
Plus then I'd be forced to get a real data plan lol.
I tried to love the kaiser for a year, but in the end I hated the thing. Slow, bulky, terrible OS, poor screen, awful keyboard, dire video and multimedia, barely usable camera, it simply does nothing well. I kept it on purely as a TomTom in the car, but it's not even much cop at that, especially with the 6.1 ROM which - as Flying Kiwi points out - ruined the GPS.
I'm thankful to it for one thing - it convinced me that Windows Mobile was a dead platform and I should give the iPhone a shot. 14 months later that's still the best phone/pocket computer I ever owned.
I've had a tilt for a couple of years now and it still works pretty good but it seems all the interest is being placed on newer phones. I don't want a new phone cause ATT doesn't have anything out now that I want to get a contract for. Would a good deal on a fuze be a worthy upgrade or should I just keep the tilt till a new phone comes along that moves me?
The Fuse is a downgrade from the Tilt IMHO. Smaller keyboard, smaller screen, not as healthy a developer community I think. If you are going to upgrade, go with the Tilt 2...I mean comeon, its just damn sexy. But, no I do not think the fuze is a very worth successor.
The problem with the Tilt is not the hardware, but the OS. With the introduction of Windows Phone 7, a lot of developers have abandoned Windows Mobile.
The good news is that the Tilt has one of the most sucessful Android ports. You can replace Windows Mobile with a Android Donut build and have a fully functional Android phone. It's not perfect, it is slow and has poor battery life. Though, considering that in the past 6 months the Tilt has a 100% working Android OS, it won't be long before the OS is fast and stable. Not to mention that hopefully we'll also see a FroYo build. Eclair doesn't have working BT or Camera, but I'm sure with time that'll work too.
Another thing to consider is that most new phones aren't much of an upgrade, unless it has a snapdragon in it. Otherwise, most have the same CPU with a 128 Mhz speed boost, and 64-128MB more ram. They do have better LCD screens and have accelerometers. Plus the Tilt does have a weak camera compared to the newer 5.0 Megapixel LED flash cameras.
Personally, I'd hold out until Snapdragon based Android phones with hardware keyboards make a common appearance. Otherwise, save your money, wait for Android to get better on Tilt.
BTW, AT&T has a lot of refurbished Tilt 2 phones that they're practically giving away for free. Getting one of those isn't bad, even though their Android development isn't anywhere near as far as the Tilts.
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The Fuse is a downgrade from the Tilt IMHO. Smaller keyboard, smaller screen, not as healthy a developer community I think. If you are going to upgrade, go with the Tilt 2...I mean comeon, its just damn sexy. But, no I do not think the fuze is a very worth successor.
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Smaller screen not really and vga, keyboard isn't smaller as has numeral 5 line, the community is larger than Kaiser regards turnover, the device has TF3D inc Sense 2.5, the one thing Kaiser does have better than TP build quality, noticed as soon as got TP i had to worry more.
Anyway my advice would be don't go midway buy the best phone you can, in my mind thst would be TP2 or HD2 "if stuck with win-mo" or Nexus1.
Wouldn't hang about for a Win7 device but then i don't fall for hype when so much going to be locked down regards dev.
Fuze gets no love
I'm really surprised that you all don't think better of the Fuze. Compared to the Tilt I know it has these added features....
Faster CPU
Higher resolution
More Ram/Rom
TV Out
FM radio
Accelerometer
Also the cooked Fuze roms are using Sense 2.1 while many of the Kaiser rom threads are being labeled as final. I wrote the to get a status check of the Tilt's activity. Seems there are still die hards in here.
I'm not so sold yet on the Android platform. A couple of articles I remember reading said that its apps marketplace is full of "junk" apps. Don't wanna jump on the fad OS just to have it go out faster then WM is. Yeah WM is at the bottom of the list right now but its what I'm most familiar with.
If AT&T would sell me a refurbish Tilt 2 at a good price without renewing my contract I'd be on it. Who knows when the next long term king of the smartphones will come out and who's gonna have it. I don't wanna be tied down to AT&T and not be able to get out of it.
I literally was going to switch to AT&T, but their recent contract changes for smart phones has made me reconsider. I don't wanna pay $300 just to switch to another provider.
Android is far from a fad. Microsoft and Apple wanna make a closed OS to mimic the revenue of game consoles. For every app that's sold, they make money. Android doesn't force you to get your applications from the market. Not to forget that it's based on linux, which means you will always have a way to improve it. That's why G1 owners are able to get OS upgrades.
The Fuze is an upgrade, but nothing massive. I'm surprised how many smart phones have the Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM 11 at 528 MHz. It's literally on every device, but it's only 128 Mhz faster then the Tilt, and many tilt owners have been able to overclock to 500 Mhz on Android, without any issues.
Like I said, Snapdragon + Hardware keyboard. Don't settle for anything less.
The Raphael does get love
Just that if i had a contract then a TP2 would be easily in grasp so wouldn't buy a secondhand tp, main reason real estate as WVGA get fed up of tiny screen even in VGA since use phone alot....
Iphone?
i would suggest the rhodium or the hd2
even maybe the touch hd
ChumleyEX said:
Iphone?
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Are you crazy? That thing has only one flipping button.
Haven't we learned anything from the 2 button mouse issues with Apple computers in the past?
Dukenukemx said:
Are you crazy? That thing has only one flipping button.
Haven't we learned anything from the 2 button mouse issues with Apple computers in the past?
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i know and they can't multi-task
Dukenukemx said:
Are you crazy? That thing has only one flipping button.
Haven't we learned anything from the 2 button mouse issues with Apple computers in the past?
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It has 2 buttons, and many many virtual buttons.
i know and they can't multi-task
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If you jailbreak you can and if you wait for 4.0 you will be able to natively.
I bought mine on May last year, and boy was it a mistake. I can't believe I bought ANOTHER Windows Mobile phone, while it is a dying OS...
Too bad I didn't wait for the HTC Desire...
So yeah, Microsoft screwed me with their crappy OS.
Don't regret
I didn't regret the choice I had made. I will love Touch Diamond2 forever.
我作了这个选择并不后悔。我会永远爱我的钻石2代。
yup, i regret it. BUT I can't cry over spilled milk. i make the best of what i have and with enough tweaking and playing around with it, even a Topaz can be...half decent. my ONLY complaint? it's slightly slow. faster than stock roms...but slow in comparison to the nexus one or the desire. oh well, ill enjoy it for another year maybe and then try and get an Android device (Droid 3 then?)
cheers.
Sometimes I regret getting the TD2 especially when entering Text Messages which is unbareable slow and the occassional unresponses to Powering-on.
BTW sent an e-mail last week to HTC about said problems and they came back with "Try a hard reset" - Not at all impressed by HTC.
how do you end up questioning yourself something like that?
do not want to be involved into an endless discussion but I could not help myself not to reply with my thoughts: why is willing anybody to throu on a forum ideas like a dying OS and comparing 2 completely different devices? if you look ofr a shoulder to cry, go out and play with the friends! if you look for some oppinions do not by the judge! to not throuw sentances in vain!
by the moment you plan to change your device the "desire" will be a brik, so your choice made one year ago can prove to be perfect!
for not being misunderstood, I am not in favor or against topaz but this thrad is not bringing anything good to the forum, but only in time, make the search or other maintenance of the forum working slow. posts as love my device also do not help! maybe a betetr idea, si to open a new thread named: why will you choose topaz and why not, and there place pertinent reasons for complaints!
personally, I will never buy a device significantly bigger than topaz! I had diamnond 1 and now, because of useless hardware buttons on that model and because of bigger resolution and available memory I moved to topaz (pure). I will always prefer the dying OS as you named instead of banging my had on the wall finding a reliable navi for Android (of course, depend on the date of posing and the maps you need). the rest, like slow response, I can live with it! I mostly use the device for remote desktop and few calls and messaging. browsing for market information or just info is aslo a must and working pretty well!
hope I have made my point clear!
cheers!
I only regret not buying the touch pro2, and besides the lack of keyboard, I'm pretty happy with it.
No regrets here. It will hold me over for some time until the next "latest and greatest" device is released. It does everything I need it to do.
Granted, if I was stuck on the stock ROM, I probbaly would be sorely disappointed.
I really like the device. It's sad, that Microsoft doesn't fill up the marketplace. They seem to wait for their 7. My girlfriend just bought a Desire and I think I will stay with HTC but change to Android. She already has a lot of apps I miss on my phone.
I will use the diamond another 12 month from now, so Microsoft has a chance to convince me of Windows Phone 7. Else Android is my alternative.
at firts i regreted i had bought a TD2 not waited 3months and bought a HD2, but then i just didn't care.
now i regret i bought 2x4gb microSD cards 1 for my htc 1 for my (nokia)n81, because now i fixed audio problems and i hate carrying 2 phones around all the time(1 for music,1 for gps and web surfing and a few cool apps).
so i'm guesing tomorrow i'll regret i tried to make a sorta RC/3.5mm connector out of my htc headset
the lousy build is definitely a neg point for me
i have sweaty palms and the paintwork is all ruined
still prefer the old original diamond
managed to keep it in pristine condition despite being a yr old
wm platform is really slow though; getting online etc...
got a iphone for web surfing and email purposes instead
the only reason i'm retaining a wmm phone is for the intelligent call function(that is extremely important due to work and call volume) not available on other mobile platforms; correct me if i'm wrong...
I got an HTC Pure as a "complimentary" upgrade from AT&T, after my Incite got bit by the Netfront "trialware" fiasco. I am quite pleased with the Pure. It's screen is fantastic. I had to laugh when my buddy handed my phone to his wife to play with and then said, "she had a bad experience with her first touch screen phone. It had one of 'those' resistive screens." I think the only thing I don't like is the lack of a standard (3.5) headphone jack. It's also hard because a lot of new software is being targeted for the HD2 with it's faster processor. The larger screen would also be nice, but it's not any better resolution, and it would be (slightly) less pocketable. So, all in all I'm pleased with my device, and am very leary of WM7.
I like my PURE, and (fingers crossed) have not had to Hard Reset since I got it. WimMo6.5 has been stable, device has been basically flawless. I replaced two Tilts with this device. I am back on "shipped" ROM, just work around bloatware and load everything on my microSD card. I was concerned about not having the slideout key board, but am doing just fine without it.
I dont like lack of 3,5mm jack, flash, poooooor battery life, sluggish operation, WinMo abnormalities, direct sunlight readability... (nice form factor, resolution, gps performance, good camera...but in my case barely usable device)
Regarding move to E52/E72
Of course you regret it. In a year the technoligy is better and the new devices are better to. But for me it was the best device on that moment.
Overhere in Holland you just don't buy a phone. You sign a contract for a year or two and usually you'll get the phone for free. Now these day you have to pay up to €100 cause the devices are getting more expensive like a iPhone.
So waiting is not a option or you will lose your phone number. Or worse you forget to stop your contract in time, the phone company will extend your contract for another year or two.
Plus
Good service from HTC, they respond in your own language and really trying to help you. Just say you've done a couple of hard resets, they will sort it out for you. They've also kicked Vodafone Holland for me so that I can update my weather at location again.
Stock ROM's are working well
Nice design of the device
XDA-forum that brings me a lot of new futures. Just think about S2U2, CHT, TD2 tools. And I'm not even talking about flashing to costum ROM's
Multi tasking but that's also the minus. Everything is running on the back. Use CleanRAM
A 5mp camera
Min
Sluggish
Low battery life
WM is not that stable
My usb cable is crap, I can see the wires sticking out after 6 months of usage.
I hate my TD2 soooo much... Bought it on a 24 month contract in June last year, and within a month I was sick of the slowness and the plasticky design.
A few months later the camera stopped working completely and so HTC had to replace pretty much everything (as stated on the slip they provided).
Since then the digitizer has cracked on numerous occasions, with just a few minor impacts. I have been forced to buy and fit my own replacements since I have a good year left with this phone!
So, yes, I regret buying this handset more than any other I have ever owned.
As for Windows Mobile... What a crock of ****. A bare and dysfunctional 'app store', a slow and awkward interface and even with Sense over the top it still feels horrible.
I like HTC as a company, but the fact that within a few months they have discontinued and forgotten about your handset is not nice. If we could have got Android fully working on the TD2 it might have been bareable!
There is literally nothing about my TD2 which I like (battery life and soft keyboard are also rubbish); the initial selling points for me (design, screen, processor) have all been massively superceded.
Some of you may disagree with the points I've made, but the original post was asking for opinions and so these are mine!
I can use just about any ol' device for a phone. What I like about the Pure (and the two other WM devices I've owned) is that it's become a hobby of sorts. I like to flash it and rearrange it and play with different apps. At least until the recent court ruling that makes unlocking legal, I've always felt sorry for the poor folks who use an iPhone (my wife and daughter included) because they're just no fun. I feel like a slave to Steve Jobs when I pick one up. They're just so rigid and unlovable.
Oh, one thing I particularly like about WM is the ability to tether. I wouldn't own a phone that couldn't do that.
My Opinion
Imho, I think the topaz/pure was a great purchase for me. I ran out the day AT&T had them and got one because I was somewhat fed up with the tediousness of my raphael/fuze. Apart from a few minor issues, I think it's a great device... the 5 megapixel camera can be a halfways decent substitute to my normal cybershot when it has to, and the screen is indeed large and bright. The unfortunate part about it is that for the most part, you can't use it for serious video playing without downconverting almost anything you put on there. But that's what everyone's got their ipods for, right? XDXD
I don't regret getting it, and I am still satisfied with it, but if I was stuck with stock ROM, and did not re customize it from time to time, I am pretty sure that I would regret. It is wonderful phone and in my opinion the still best looking. That said I am switching soon to Desire.
I went thru a lot of HTC devices over the years and I did not regret a singly buy!
Of course after 1/2 year there are newer better faster devices out, but I was never disappointed by any HTC device I bought.
The only device I regret to buy was an Acer Dual Sim device that was cranky, slow, and did not work in Japan.
I dont regret getting any phone due to the research and testing before I buy them. One thing I can say is txting on resistive screens is painfull at best with my sausage fingers! saying that I had issues with my Hero aswell! the only one i didnt mind typing txt on was the iPhone!!