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I've been researching this phone and I really like it so far, but I have a question about the battery.
I've read about the battery lasting something like 9 hours or so.. now my question is that 9 hours while constantly in use?
For example if I leave my house at 3:00 PM with a full charge hang out with my friends, end up at a bar at night, and I maybe talk for 20 minutes, send 5 txt messages and barely mess with the phone, will the phone dying around Midnight?
With that type of light usage it can last a day or even two deopending on how you config. & the radio you use.
The +or- 6-8 hours is with wifi, BT, 3g data usage, gps, etc...
I make it about half the day(5-6 hours), but I've got AgileMobile running all day using 3G connection so I'm assuming I'm running normally. This is greatly improved by switching off 3G(adds another 2-3 hours). I put maybe 15-30 minutes of calls on my phone a day, it's mostly a mobile web browser and instant messenger.
To get through a full day for me I charge the phone in my jeep while driving to / from work, and most days I eat lunch out so I charge it then as well.
Thanks for the replies. I will probably have all data connections turned off, and won't run GPS on days like that.
I really dig this phone, I just got a little worried about the chance that I won't go home after some heavy drinking and won't have a phone to use in the morning...
Also, I just read on a website review from Laptopmag.com that said "We left a fully charged Tilt on over a long weekend, and when we returned, the unit still had three out of four bars of battery life"... What do you think?
Well I think if you upgrade to wm6.1, you should gt alot better battery life.
I was sick (in bed most of the day) yesterday so I took my phone off charge at about 7am in the morning.
I sent some messages, surfed the internet with hsdpa for about 3 hours (and this is in a bad signal area, which means more battery consumption)
then did some wifi (20mins)
and a bluetooth recieve or two.
I just checked the battery level this morning (8am) and I still had 57% left. I was abit surprised because I thought it will have drained by now like it did with wm6. The point is wm6.1 has a lot better battery life. So for maxumum battery life you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents
Battery life...
Hi I have had the kaiser for not long really... there's a neat program that tells you what is the drain, of the battery...
well if you are not touching it and not doing anything it drains about 6-10ma, so based on that yes, it can last for a looooooooong time, now when you call it goes to 200-400ma, so yes it drains more battery there. ( as you would think it would )
then again you can have the backlight to low, to use less battery, also, turn the screen off when not using it, and change the radio an a lot of hacks.
based on my experience using EDGE, the GPS, the screen, playing a game, sending some mms, and talking, it can really kill your battery in no time.
but you can also well get a car charger ( be carefull with those ) or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
I have seen people talking about a 3000mah battery so that could really drive the phone for a loooooooong time, better think about other issues, like how sucky the camera is... ( maybe with the video drivers we are wating for this will get fixed ), also well, sometimes the performance is not that good, ( also video drivers I think ), besides that, and if you don't mind like I do, to have to wait for a few seconds to get things going on, the phone is a real jewel, if you live life in the fast lane, well maybe that second to open the keyboard will kill you
TC !
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or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
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which one do u recommend? also where can u find this battery?
thanks
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Seidio 1650 battery and the Mugen 1500 batteries seem to be good oem size batteries from I have read. THere is a thread on the Kaiser Accessories board about batteries.......
I had a similar experience with excessive current consumption in standby, likely caused by the GPS though it is off (see Post "TyTN II / Kaiser issue: GPS & battery drain").
Perhaps you should install "BatteryStatus". Make yourself familiar with the battery current display, and try to figure out how much power your device draws.
Another nice test is, switch all units off (phone, WLAN, Bluetooth, GPS, really everything). Make sure no program is running (TaskManager). Leave the fully charged phone alone for 5 hours or so. Recheck the battery capacity whether it dropped more than very few percent. If you do not need GPS frequently, you may simply try a soft reset. If you have interesting results, please be so kind and add them to the abovementioned thread, too.
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I've had an experience the explains why the Kaiser goes through batteries like it's the grand prix. It may be tied to the reason Apple started the I-Phone as 2G.
I own the kaiser, the Nokia e90 and N7710. On a full charge and normal use (for me that's about 50 calls a day in/out, 20 mins of games, 30 mins of reading rss and other information and 30 misc. minutes of backlight on with limited GPS use and very limited wifi. The Nokia e90 lasts 2/3 days, the N7710 2 days and the Kaiser is at 10/20% in 8 hours. But here I am in small Liberia on business, no 3G and yes there is GPS for those that attribute power consumption to GPS and the result is, unplug at 8am by 5pm I am at 90% power (yes my calls are less etc.) but this is amazing. (Worse - I wasted $42 from ATT on a standby battery prior to departure.
My conclusion, 3G is the battery killer...... I'll like to hear from those in none 3G markets about their consumption because I suspect they were the ones who kept taking about being at 80% and made me feel they were on another planet........
I wonder what Apple users willl say when I-Phones start lasting 4 hours
you have a good battery. My battery is retarded, gotta charge it every single day . After about 1hr and 45 mins of talk time , some lil screwing around with music and software . I am here , at 50% .
WiFi
I believe the 3G might be a battery killer, so does the WiFi. If I turn on my Wifi, my kaiser can last for 3-4 hours only.
makes sense, it's why Apple kept 3G out of the original iPhone. It is a battery sucker for some reason, perhaps poorly designed chip or software, who knows. Although maybe Apple will push some manufacturer to make a decent 3G chip that doesn't kill batteries.
iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
I'm using T-mobile USA and there is no 3G here.
Just using GPS with Live Search, e-mail checking every 15min. Maybe 15min of web surfing on an Edge network, and otherwise normal use. If I take it off the charger around 10am - it's at around 20% battery life by 2am.
So I get about 16-20 hours out of a full charge with normal use. No 3G.
I thought 3g being a battery killer was pretty obvious.
I can get 2 days out of my phone, in 3g, but I set it to auto-activesync every 30 minutes and maybe an hour or 2 of talk time in that period.
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iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
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For starters, the iPhone isn't 3G.
Second, tell him to return it since it sounds defective. I own an iPhone that I use daily when I don't want the bulky Tilt on my hip, and I listen to a live stream for about 8 hours and have plenty of battery life left. The battery life can't even be compared to a Tilt. It's superb. Try listening to an RSS feed on the Tilt for more than an hour. You're phone will almost be dead.
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For starters, the iPhone isn't 3G.
Second, tell him to return it since it sounds defective. I own an iPhone that I use daily when I don't want the bulky Tilt on my hip, and I listen to a live stream for about 8 hours and have plenty of battery life left. The battery life can't even be compared to a Tilt. It's superb. Try listening to an RSS feed on the Tilt for more than an hour. You're phone will almost be dead.
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before you get on iphone fanboi ego please readd
nobody say that iphone had 3g, it will.
battery of the tilt is on bad side, but iphone battery is nowhere near superb.(except yours, of course )
its not just my bro some peeps i know say the same thing. yea, should tell em to return.
no hate for iphone here cuz i dont own it, but hey I proudly carry my rss-radio-die-fast tilt all day every day. tell ya what my bulky tilt can use for self defense.
btw my bro planning to sell it soon for the upcoming 3g version.
Well....Its rightly Said 3G gulps d battery ...I m in a NON 3g country right nw (at least for d time being ...they r goin to launch it...and dat will be d real test f d battery)
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So does the WIFI ... dats smthing people r nt pointing at...dats also is a battery Guzzller....it eats up mine at d rate f about 20 for 1 hr continuous use on an avg.
On an avg using NON-3g mode, 0.5 hrs Wifi, 2 Hrs Egde, 10 calls, 30 sms
my battery give me about approx 1 dat time...may be bit more.
BUT i think, Seriously using people should go for A HIGh amp battery ....dats GR8 instead f carrying small standby ones.... which will also save d cost!
Regards
Thanks for the reminder, I have known about the 3G battery issues and been meaning to look into how to switch between EDGE and UTMS, looks like this thread outlines it pretty well. Looks like perhaps a few solutions in it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=bandswitch
ok what the hell are u guys doing to get such ****ty battery?
here is my setup..
first start with a good CLEAN rom..
dk's 3.14 w/out voice command.
backlight set to 30%
backlight timeout set to 10secs
keyboard timeout set to 15sec
force edge
direct push activated "as items arrived"
wktask to make sure most apps get closed out.
device sleepmode 1minute
kaiser tweak options.
allow fastsleep during call = yes
all power saving features minus the memory card one, my ringers are stored on memory card..
wm6 dialer..no video. (from my experience the video dialers..aka touch dialers seem to drain battery quicker..call me crazy but i think they do.)
......hmmm cant think of nething else at the moment.. with these settings my battery lasts a good 2-2.5 days
avg 150txts/day
avg 80emails/day
avg 20mins web/day
avg 90mins calls/day
avg 15mins 3g OR wifi/day (mostly for coreplayer's youtube)
now my treo750v will be here tuesday so ima see how these settings compare while running the treo.. getting lil bored of my tilt.
i dont know about u guys but i get a good 2 days with always on bluetooth standard 3g 4 hours of wifi and 115 calls average i also run a 8gb card... make sure your batteries are holding full charges
I get decent battery life out of my Tilt. On T-mobile with no 3G here. I don't do a whole lot of talk time on my phone, so that is a definite factor. Push email running from 8am to 3:30 pm daily. Quite a bit of data usage in general. Don't really use bluetooth or wifi all that much though. At the end of the day I can still have about 85% battery left.
Now if I don't go into airplane mode before I get into the workplace, it can be a different story altogether. I get no signal where I work so it's always searching - which will absolutely destroy my battery.
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iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
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Here's an idea. Choose which statement you want to make instead of contradicting yourself. That's for my 3G statement.
As far as the rest of your sarcastic follow-up, I own and mod both the iPhone and Tilt. Whether my opinion on which is better means anything to you or another reader, I actually have a "hands-on" experience using both daily. The iPhone is superior in OS, battery life, design, and over-all "phone" use. Get your facts straight about the data plan too. When I purchased the Tilt after having the iPhone on my account first, they switched my 'plan' to a Tilt oriented Unlimited Data (why would you even own a Tilt with anything less) plan, so all that changed was Visual Voice Mail (whuppittydoo), not the $$. If your friends are as educated on the iPhone as yourself I'll take thier opinions on the device and file them under "Former Sidekick Owners" also, and while you're trying to beat off an attacker to "defend" yourself with that dead-battery-brick, maybe I'll stop my 10th hour of podcast listening to see if ya want me to call 911 on my iPhone. lol.
I don't have 3G. I am with the Tmobile USA network and don't use any data unless it is wifi. Is the 3G part of my radio off unless I turn it on, or is it constantly searching for a 3G network? Well disregarding that, I am on my 3rd day with light usage and am at 43% and screen brightness on max brightness.
But i use Edge, i always use Edge, and my battery still gets eaten up.
when i have 3g on my batt dies like crazzi fast. i dont think i can get more than 6 hours out of it. but when i am on edge then the batt would probably go for more then 15 hours on average.
I generally do not turn off my phone at all. It is always running Direct push. Bluetooth is always on. The backlight is set to approximately 50%. The device is set to go to standby after 1 minute. The beam reception is turned off (not sure of the effect since there is no IR. I do not use 3G at all.
I use the phone heavily from around 8am until 10pm and often later. This includes around 2hrs of calls nowdays, 30-60 texts in and out, maybe 40 emails, and an hour of browsing the internet spread throughout the day. I might spend about 30 minutes with calendar adjustments, contact additions, and checking tasks over the course of the day.
The phone will still have 50-60% of the battery remaining at the end of the day. If I use GPS for a little while I can expect to need to charge at the end of the day.
Tilt Battery.
As a Network Engineer I am using my phone constantly. Sometimes you wish people didn't know that you had the ability to always check your email
I unplug mine at 7:30am. I read and reply to 80+ emails, talk for 2-3hours (while typing on laptop), use Opera Mini for 15-30mins, use blutooth for file transfers, use Wifi to test the wireless network, run WIFIFOFUM, and other phone general things. I will be at 15% charge by the time I get home at 6:30. Sometimes I'm lucky enough to to use my USB cable to charge it and I'll be fine all night.
I knew the Tilt have fair to below average battery life before I bought it. It's like buying a Vette or any other V8 car and expecting awesome gas mileage, it's not going to happen.
The Iphones do have a fairly good battery usage time. Just like their Ipods can last forever. They have had lots of R&D time to make it all work.
Some people say I should have bought an Iphone, but I am very happy with my little black brick. It feels sturdy and fits well in my massive bear hands (6'6tall)
got MDA Compact IV battery don't even last for whole day,
does any one know if its ROM issue,
using same feature as MDA Ameo, Ameo last me more then a day.
any one else having same issue.
Same issue here
If I dont make any calls at all, follow the various tweaks to turn wifi & network data connections (ie turn them on when needed and turn them off automatically 30s later). I manage to get a day and a half! If I start using it properly, I can use it all up in 8-10 hours!
It is only a 900mah battery, but given that the extended batery is only 1340mah it's not THAT much of a difference, maybe a day and a half to 2 days. My Trinity could run for 4-5 days without a charge on low usage.
Still, the phone is sooo nice
Has anyone tried the unofficial extended batteries that are 1800mah?
Yes it is such a nice phone!
My old MDA Compact3 used to last for 3-4 days with little usage and that had a 1200mA battery.
I think its the faster processor and the 3G that slurps up the juice. I read somewhere that if you turn off 3G and use 2G totally, the battery life is OK.
3G phones have always been power hungry. I remember the old 3 phones which would not last 12 hours!
There are a lot of clever people on this Forum, I'm hoping that someone will come up with a solution soon (Maybe slow the processor right down when its in standby)
Well, had the MDA Compact IV for a few days now and I am seriously thinking about sending it back, there seems to be so many quirks.
1) Battery life is a joke!
2) Touch-Flo overrides all other settings and isn't very customisable
eg clock doesn't display in title bar even though it is set to.
3) Email can't be deleted from the Touch-flo interface you have to go to the Inbox to do it
4) Screen switches off as soon as the phone connects, which is a real pain when you have to 'click 2 for tech support'
5) Why isn't there a button to access the camera quickly?
6) The power button on th III was in a much more logical place, on this is is in the 'phone' position, which is fine if you never need it but on this it is needed all the time!
7) Weather doesn't update automatically
I have now given up with Touch-Flo and am using it as I did the III, with SPB Shell and PhoneWeaver, phoned T-mobile and they said it was problem with my handset they are replacing it tomorrow! New game is great though and I really like the phone, most things I can manage with except the battery and the screen switching off.
1. True
2. What? It is customisable to an extent, look at programs like Diamond TF3D Config and the themes available. The clock displays in the title bar for me in all apps. If you want more customisation then use the today screen and turn off TF3D
3. Then turn off TF3D if you dont like it.
4. Use one of the tweaking apps to disable that
5. You can set it open by holidng the call button with one of the tweaking apps
6. It's in the same place it is on all Nokia phones, out of the way so you dont turn it on when you pull it out your pocket from its sides
7. Yes it does, you can change that setting in the TF3D settings, the bottom setting
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Mine was "despatched" yesterday so should be at home today when i finish work ... will let you know what its like.
Above all, im looking forward to the flat back replacement, im fed up with the phone being on a desk and rocking when im taping away a text message
i have disable TF3d abd use as normal pda battery last longer like 1 and half day.
but its no point its same as normal pda then. might be get better battery or i have keep sapre battery.
My Battery has improved...
I too reported the battery was poor.... initially.
But it seems to have improved with every charge!
I have cut down all the comms and forced 2G. Gone down to the lowest screen brightness + 1 notch.
The battery went from 10 bars (full) down to 9 bars over 24 hours with minimal use.
I let the battery fully deplete, then gave it a 12 hour charge overnight. The MDA C4 was unplugged at 08:00 yesterday morning and today at 12:45 I still have 9 bars! I am quite please with it now.
I guess I'll have to force it to 2G and move onto 3G if I am surfing for extended periods of time.
Hope that helps.
i user my pda with laptop to surf internet @ work
i use to use Ameo after surfing from 9:00 till 16:00 i still got 30-40% left on my Ameo
with MDA C4 with out TF3D used it for 30. battery drop from 99 to 84%.
if i use TF3d battery drain like mad.
Having a few issues myself, stock T-mobile UK ROM, TF3D running. Reading through somebody mentions an issue with the version of Google maps that is pre-installed, basically doesn't shut down the GPS fully even after closing the program. I uninstalled it, and installed the latest version from Google, version 2.1.0.10. Not sure about anybody else, but my battery life has improved hugely today, with the same usage as yesterday. Used Opera, several emails, several calls, Google maps, and general fiddling and battery is still around 80% (took it off charge 11.00 last night). Don't know if its a solution for everybody, but has REALLY worked for me......
4&5) What one do you recomend?
6) But with Nokias you never use it, the phone wakes up when you press any button
7) Yes, but how often?
This is my 2nd day without recharging and still 40% left. I haven't made any calls but the phone was on and I used wifi a couple of times. Looked upon the album in tf3d a couple of times and some other things. So I think I cannot complain on battery capacity
MDA compact 4 Battery life
Hi
I left the phone for 4 days unused and the battery suvived,
but unfortunatly after changing the original rom and after inserting the sim card the phone now does not stand by more than one day
i tried the minimum use just phone on standby but still less than a day.
any idea about best rom on t-mobile for battery life. or at least the original rom to try
thanks
I just installed AZTOR's x2 ROM, maybe it will prolongue the battery life. The original ROM last just a day, max 1,5 days. I hope it will improve now...
Hi Guys
I work in the IT dept of my company and ive got the job of supporting all our WM devices. (97% of them are the HTC Tytn II/Kaiser)
i get moaned at alot about this things and the main thing is the battery life is p*ss poor! All they run is active sync to pull in emails as they arrive and then the usual phone call, but yet the battery still wont last a day.
Does anyone know of any tricks or tweaks i can do on the devices to make them squeeze out every last drop of battery life?
cheers
Yeah, if you can get Advanced Config installed on their phones, fire it up, go to the right soft-key "Menu" option, and in there should be a Comm Manager selection. Pick it, and in the panel that comes up check on teh 3G button. Then, close out of Advanced Config and let it reset the phone. When the phone comes back up, go into the Comm Manager and there will be a new button to turn 3G on and off. Turn it off. If all they're doing is phone calls and pulling down emails, the Edge connection should be more than sufficient. I've also noticed improved battery life by leaving bluetooth turned on all the time (I now it's counterintuitive and could be a placebo effect, but I swear it makes a difference for me.) I can get well over 2 days on Edge connection with the stock battery using these 2 tricks.
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Hi Guys
I work in the IT dept of my company and ive got the job of supporting all our WM devices. (97% of them are the HTC Tytn II/Kaiser)
i get moaned at alot about this things and the main thing is the battery life is p*ss poor! All they run is active sync to pull in emails as they arrive and then the usual phone call, but yet the battery still wont last a day.
Does anyone know of any tricks or tweaks i can do on the devices to make them squeeze out every last drop of battery life?
cheers
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If they don't have them already, you may want to have car chargers installed in the company cars of those with TyTN IIs. As for settings yes disabling HSDPA or even better going back to just plain GSM rather than 3G will help battery life (although also slow down any internet connectivity). You could also try turning down the screen brightness as this has a major effect on battery life but then they'll probably all complain the device has p*ss poor screen visibility (especially in bright sunshine - so if you're in the UK this won't be an issue )
If these suggestions don't work then I think the best plan will be to make it as easy as possible for them to top up charge during the day, perhaps with desktop cradles as well if this would encourage charging. I sometimes need more than one battery charge in more than a day (I've even used up all of my spare battery charge as well on a day involving lots of GPS navigation on foot) so yes these things do normally use lots of battery power if you have all the bells and whistles running and no charging occuring. Make sure wifi is left off on the TyTN IIs unless it's actively being used at the time.
Which ROMs are they using - all HTC official? There are reported differences in battery consumption depending on the ROM version used.
cheers for that guys
I will give both of your suggestions ago, next time i get one of the tytns in front of me.
I have the advanced config for the HTC diamond would that work on the tytn? if not where would i get that from?
Is it just me or are we being left with the sour taste of "Why should we have to compromise on the performance of the device to get 2 days battery life out of it?"
Unfortunately " push " email kills an already suspect battery. Activesync and your media net ?, edge? or 3G remains connected all the time . I had to go from " when they arrive" to " check every 30 minutes " for email or else my battery , even with minimal use would not last past 5pm.
I really miss my Blakberry in this respect. My Tilt does everything and everything for me, and does so on battery power. I guess if it just made phone calls the battery would last for days.
i agree denco, all the HTC WM devices ive ever had, they've had a load of functions but the battery is all very weak! whether or not that is something to do with HTC or WM i dont know, but its very annoying and just something we have to live with as my company signed a 2 year contract with Orange in March so there is nothing we can do!
Well, I doubt that it is Windows Mobile; ok, to be correct: WM has gotten more powerful with each new version, got even more and more graphical additions, just like Vista compared to XP. For sure this needs much more horse power and, in fact, processor and RAM are increasing. However, HTC barely increases battery capacy as well - might it be because of size / weight proportion or other reasons - I don't know!
I had the MWg Zinc II for a while and the battery life (1500mAh capacy) was amazing. However, audio / network reception quality was a joke on that thing.
Thankfully, there are HIGH CAPACY and EXTENDED BATTERIES available for the HTC's. They make your device look funny but surely increase your battery life as well.
I am (still) willing to sacrifice battery life for quality; arranging my life by having a car charger and also a 2nd battery with me when on the go. Hopefully HTC's batteries will evolve and have higher capacy in future devices.
Kaiser battery life
I am not an expert at this. I also was unable to keep a battery operational for half a day until I did a hard reset, and brought it back to stock ATT 6.1. Then used the phone without email for a day and noted no excessive battery drain. (70% at end of the day) Kaiser tweak added, with the “Disconnect after” parameter in the Data (GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA/WIFI) set to 1 min. Added the MS Push to my Exchange server, and only use the single email account. No appreciable battery drain. (68% at end of day)
The only thing I have NOT enabled yet is the ATT Navigator. Will add Google Maps and see if it messes with GPS chip. I have read and experienced the GPS draining my battery, even after turning it off, within a couple of hours.
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cheers for that guys
I will give both of your suggestions ago, next time i get one of the tytns in front of me.
I have the advanced config for the HTC diamond would that work on the tytn? if not where would i get that from?
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In the advanced config, there are also settings for "Power management", make sure there is enabled in all of them.
Starfury said:
Is it just me or are we being left with the sour taste of "Why should we have to compromise on the performance of the device to get 2 days battery life out of it?"
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Nah, considering the EEEpc I have gets about 2 hours battery max, and I can do a stack load more on the TyTnII than on the laptop, I', pretty happy. I had aan old Nokia that would go for 2 weeks without charging, but for a high end, gps enabled windows phone, 2 days is amazing.
@ splash08 : you can also try upgrading to the new 1.70 radio found in the kaiser rom thread, seems to give me less drain. Also, you can buy larger capacity 3rd party batteries.. maybe thats the best soultion.
GPS (Telenav) causing my battery drain
Since my last post on the 27th, I have had ZERO problems until I used the Telenav on Friday evening the 5th. Since then can only get about 4 hours out of the battery before it drains completly and that is with ZERO use. I have uninstalled Telenav and done multiple power down, but stilll draining. Looking for a way to turn off the GPS before I do a hard reset.
GPS had no issues with google maps and no battery problems.
ive now tried all those suggestions but non have really made a dramatic increase. I thought i cracked it at one point, over a weekend my phone last from saturday all the way though to monday night! but then i realised that saturday and sunday is off peak so the push/pull function was set to every 60mins! As soon as i got back to work during the week the device would last just over one day, on emails only.
i think i may have to look into getting the extended batteries or maybe changing all the devices for a none HTC device, as they seem to have a weak batteries (but i think this may be the last resort at it will cost a lot ot change all the devices)
Just received this in the mail, thought I would upload some pics.
Obviously this is being used in the Australian version (Telstra HTC Velocity 4G) and the Battery is advertised for the Vivid/Raider/Holiday
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Back of Battery Reads
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Long Lasting
High capacity Li-ion Battery
BARCODE
RDHT0010020111130 (30 November 2011 maybe)
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Front of Battery Reads
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For HTC Raider 4G/Holiday/X710E
3.7VDC---3600mAh
Model:BH39100
Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery.
+ usual warning sticker about fire being hot and try not feed it to babies or yourself and try not to crush it with your monster truck or puncture it with a pick axe.
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I will be charging it overnight (I sat the battery in the phone for the pics but have not used or charged it yet) and I will let you guys know how it goes
It cost US$12 with free postage
Already I can tell you that the larger back plate is flimsy and will probably unclip 50 times a day, I have ordered several soft cases for the phone and I intend to cut one to fit the new battery hump, that soft case should stop the flimsy case from sliding up. It's also a finger print magnet, but so is the rest of the phone so meh.
Anyway, enjoy the photo's and let me know if you would like some more info.
If anyone is interested in the inside of it, I am happy to pry it open for science.
how long dose it last
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how long dose it last
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I will let you know how long it lasts when I charge it up tonight, and let it run, do you have a preferred battery monitor you would like me to collect statistics from?
UPDATE: **** it, I popped it in and managed to get it up to 100 percent at work in 1 go, I have reset my batt stats and we shall see how long she lasts I'm syncing 2 gmail accounts in push, 1 exchange account in push and my facebook and twitter accounts and leaving wifi and bt on even though bt I only use in the car for a2dp and wifi I use when I am in range of home... so it should be searching all day long
Well I'm up to 17 hours and I'm at 57% battery... going from 7PM Australian-DST when I pulled it off the charger after the first charge to what is now 12:24PM , I've kept syncing exchange and gmail, and got about 30 sms messages, made a few calls, used gps for 10 minutes with google maps in car turn by turn, rebooted into recovery and ran a backup, took a few minutes of video footage, drove for around 2 hours using A2DP to stream music to my car using PowerAmp as the player.
So Far the big ones are
44% display
15% cell standby
12% wifi
8% phone idle
6% google maps
4% android OS
4%voice calls
2% PowerAmp
2% com.htc.bgp
2% ADW.Launcher
1% Bluetooth
It seems better than the original battery, usually I charge it in the car when I use GPS and A2DP but I wanted to avoid chargers until I deplete the battery for this test, it doesnt seem to have hammered the batter as much as I thought it would of.
I am in a 3G area, there is no LTE available here yet.
Looks promising. Thank you for posting. I may have to try one.
At about 3pm, the battery percentage started plummeting quickly, its 6pm now and I'm at 8%, I haven't done anything special its just been sitting ticking over some emails and sms's coming in, haven't made any calls or anything, so the dramatic drop in battery is kinda indicating to me that its just a **** battery, I do not forsee much more battery time out of this than the standard battery, infact it might even be worse by the end.
so 50% of the battery lasted 20 hours, and then 42% of the batter left in 3... bleh
okay ran completely flat at 7:24
so thats like 24 hours, I dont know if that is good or not
It's not terribly unusual for a battery to underperform for the first few charge cycles. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet.
My Raider didn't make it through the first few days (understandable for the first day, though, since I was constantly playing with it), but now I regularly find it has 30-50% left 16-18 hours after unplugging it, depending on usage.
fair enough, I'm taking it through a few power cycles over the week and I'll report my results
makes the phone look UGLY
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makes the phone look UGLY
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Personally I think the phone looks ugly to begin with lol... I find the Galaxy S2 or even the nexus prettier, but I love the holiday for its technical specifications, if I wanted a fashion accessory, I'd get an iphone... or a bracelet.
Have gone a few days with this, the phone feels too thin when it has the normal battery pack on it now... I find I miss the hump on the back, I also like the feel of the smooth glossy finish against my palm as opposed to the standard metal backing... of course if my phone covers EVER get here from the land of ebay (aka Shangzen, China) this will of course change again
The look of the hump on the back has actually really grown on me, and when its on its back on a table its now much easier to pick it up without it slipping in your fingers as you can get your fingers right under it before you lift it.
I did some testing with that batt a while back.. about 8 hours of netflix w/ wifi, bluetooth on.
I like not having to change the battery every day. Though I have to make a case work also.
battery is working pretty well for me, I'm going to do a full test and see what I can get out of it again now I have worn the battery in.
FYI - I'm getting a big jump in time on the stock battery after flashing - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22480315&postcount=167
Well, this run I got 1 day 20 hours out of it im guessing cause the last 24 wont last long, which I am impressed by, however the phone does not appear to really register the battery level properly it still spends forever in the top 50 percent ie 1 day 17 hours for the first 50 then it blasts through the last 50 percent in a few hours.
yea.. I reported that a while ago. Mine stays at 100% for half the day then starts dropping.. once to about 15% it will go quick. haha I cant see to get apps to really show the right info.
These batta are suppose to have a chip in it.. but I dont know how it all works with the apps.
My basic impression with the battery is , YES, it does last longer, however it's impossible to tell how much charge you have left as the phone cannot tell properly how full the battery is
hi.. where do i get that circle battery theme? thanks
to get that, you need to have a rooted phone, I used
http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/
you pull some files out of your phone (they are different for each rom, so if I gave you mine, they would just break your phone) and upload them to this site, make the changes you want (ie the circle battery indicator) and then this website cooks it into a recovery ZIP file, put that file on your /sdcard directory, reboot intop recovery and flash the zip onto your phone, clear your cache, clear your dalvik cache, then reboot, done
let me know if you need more help, basically before you can do this you need to follow the suerguide and have your phone at least rooted and have recovery installed. This is the only way to really change that icon, you can install an app from the market that will give you second battery meter, but yeah it looks crap
I use an app called "Screen Filter" to turn down the screen brightness whenever I'm indoors. This saves my battery tremendously. I see your VIVID Display also kills your battery. I'm getting over 24hrs on the stock battery with the screen brightness set to 50% with the app, but I have autosync and push turned off for all programs. I make a few calls and text about 10-20 times per day. I check facebook and gmail about once every couple of hours. This is pretty stellar with the stock battery. Oh ya, I have the SafPWR Fusion2 but only use it only when taking business trips. It's only 1800mAh but it gets me another day of power.
I'm very tempted to get your battery pack especially since it's so cheap! I'm sure the performance will improve over a few more weeks of use. 2 days of usage with full autosync and exchange sync is pretty impressive!