I've had an experience the explains why the Kaiser goes through batteries like it's the grand prix. It may be tied to the reason Apple started the I-Phone as 2G.
I own the kaiser, the Nokia e90 and N7710. On a full charge and normal use (for me that's about 50 calls a day in/out, 20 mins of games, 30 mins of reading rss and other information and 30 misc. minutes of backlight on with limited GPS use and very limited wifi. The Nokia e90 lasts 2/3 days, the N7710 2 days and the Kaiser is at 10/20% in 8 hours. But here I am in small Liberia on business, no 3G and yes there is GPS for those that attribute power consumption to GPS and the result is, unplug at 8am by 5pm I am at 90% power (yes my calls are less etc.) but this is amazing. (Worse - I wasted $42 from ATT on a standby battery prior to departure.
My conclusion, 3G is the battery killer...... I'll like to hear from those in none 3G markets about their consumption because I suspect they were the ones who kept taking about being at 80% and made me feel they were on another planet........
I wonder what Apple users willl say when I-Phones start lasting 4 hours
you have a good battery. My battery is retarded, gotta charge it every single day . After about 1hr and 45 mins of talk time , some lil screwing around with music and software . I am here , at 50% .
WiFi
I believe the 3G might be a battery killer, so does the WiFi. If I turn on my Wifi, my kaiser can last for 3-4 hours only.
makes sense, it's why Apple kept 3G out of the original iPhone. It is a battery sucker for some reason, perhaps poorly designed chip or software, who knows. Although maybe Apple will push some manufacturer to make a decent 3G chip that doesn't kill batteries.
iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
I'm using T-mobile USA and there is no 3G here.
Just using GPS with Live Search, e-mail checking every 15min. Maybe 15min of web surfing on an Edge network, and otherwise normal use. If I take it off the charger around 10am - it's at around 20% battery life by 2am.
So I get about 16-20 hours out of a full charge with normal use. No 3G.
I thought 3g being a battery killer was pretty obvious.
I can get 2 days out of my phone, in 3g, but I set it to auto-activesync every 30 minutes and maybe an hour or 2 of talk time in that period.
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iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
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For starters, the iPhone isn't 3G.
Second, tell him to return it since it sounds defective. I own an iPhone that I use daily when I don't want the bulky Tilt on my hip, and I listen to a live stream for about 8 hours and have plenty of battery life left. The battery life can't even be compared to a Tilt. It's superb. Try listening to an RSS feed on the Tilt for more than an hour. You're phone will almost be dead.
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For starters, the iPhone isn't 3G.
Second, tell him to return it since it sounds defective. I own an iPhone that I use daily when I don't want the bulky Tilt on my hip, and I listen to a live stream for about 8 hours and have plenty of battery life left. The battery life can't even be compared to a Tilt. It's superb. Try listening to an RSS feed on the Tilt for more than an hour. You're phone will almost be dead.
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before you get on iphone fanboi ego please readd
nobody say that iphone had 3g, it will.
battery of the tilt is on bad side, but iphone battery is nowhere near superb.(except yours, of course )
its not just my bro some peeps i know say the same thing. yea, should tell em to return.
no hate for iphone here cuz i dont own it, but hey I proudly carry my rss-radio-die-fast tilt all day every day. tell ya what my bulky tilt can use for self defense.
btw my bro planning to sell it soon for the upcoming 3g version.
Well....Its rightly Said 3G gulps d battery ...I m in a NON 3g country right nw (at least for d time being ...they r goin to launch it...and dat will be d real test f d battery)
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So does the WIFI ... dats smthing people r nt pointing at...dats also is a battery Guzzller....it eats up mine at d rate f about 20 for 1 hr continuous use on an avg.
On an avg using NON-3g mode, 0.5 hrs Wifi, 2 Hrs Egde, 10 calls, 30 sms
my battery give me about approx 1 dat time...may be bit more.
BUT i think, Seriously using people should go for A HIGh amp battery ....dats GR8 instead f carrying small standby ones.... which will also save d cost!
Regards
Thanks for the reminder, I have known about the 3G battery issues and been meaning to look into how to switch between EDGE and UTMS, looks like this thread outlines it pretty well. Looks like perhaps a few solutions in it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=bandswitch
ok what the hell are u guys doing to get such ****ty battery?
here is my setup..
first start with a good CLEAN rom..
dk's 3.14 w/out voice command.
backlight set to 30%
backlight timeout set to 10secs
keyboard timeout set to 15sec
force edge
direct push activated "as items arrived"
wktask to make sure most apps get closed out.
device sleepmode 1minute
kaiser tweak options.
allow fastsleep during call = yes
all power saving features minus the memory card one, my ringers are stored on memory card..
wm6 dialer..no video. (from my experience the video dialers..aka touch dialers seem to drain battery quicker..call me crazy but i think they do.)
......hmmm cant think of nething else at the moment.. with these settings my battery lasts a good 2-2.5 days
avg 150txts/day
avg 80emails/day
avg 20mins web/day
avg 90mins calls/day
avg 15mins 3g OR wifi/day (mostly for coreplayer's youtube)
now my treo750v will be here tuesday so ima see how these settings compare while running the treo.. getting lil bored of my tilt.
i dont know about u guys but i get a good 2 days with always on bluetooth standard 3g 4 hours of wifi and 115 calls average i also run a 8gb card... make sure your batteries are holding full charges
I get decent battery life out of my Tilt. On T-mobile with no 3G here. I don't do a whole lot of talk time on my phone, so that is a definite factor. Push email running from 8am to 3:30 pm daily. Quite a bit of data usage in general. Don't really use bluetooth or wifi all that much though. At the end of the day I can still have about 85% battery left.
Now if I don't go into airplane mode before I get into the workplace, it can be a different story altogether. I get no signal where I work so it's always searching - which will absolutely destroy my battery.
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iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
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Here's an idea. Choose which statement you want to make instead of contradicting yourself. That's for my 3G statement.
As far as the rest of your sarcastic follow-up, I own and mod both the iPhone and Tilt. Whether my opinion on which is better means anything to you or another reader, I actually have a "hands-on" experience using both daily. The iPhone is superior in OS, battery life, design, and over-all "phone" use. Get your facts straight about the data plan too. When I purchased the Tilt after having the iPhone on my account first, they switched my 'plan' to a Tilt oriented Unlimited Data (why would you even own a Tilt with anything less) plan, so all that changed was Visual Voice Mail (whuppittydoo), not the $$. If your friends are as educated on the iPhone as yourself I'll take thier opinions on the device and file them under "Former Sidekick Owners" also, and while you're trying to beat off an attacker to "defend" yourself with that dead-battery-brick, maybe I'll stop my 10th hour of podcast listening to see if ya want me to call 911 on my iPhone. lol.
I don't have 3G. I am with the Tmobile USA network and don't use any data unless it is wifi. Is the 3G part of my radio off unless I turn it on, or is it constantly searching for a 3G network? Well disregarding that, I am on my 3rd day with light usage and am at 43% and screen brightness on max brightness.
But i use Edge, i always use Edge, and my battery still gets eaten up.
when i have 3g on my batt dies like crazzi fast. i dont think i can get more than 6 hours out of it. but when i am on edge then the batt would probably go for more then 15 hours on average.
I generally do not turn off my phone at all. It is always running Direct push. Bluetooth is always on. The backlight is set to approximately 50%. The device is set to go to standby after 1 minute. The beam reception is turned off (not sure of the effect since there is no IR. I do not use 3G at all.
I use the phone heavily from around 8am until 10pm and often later. This includes around 2hrs of calls nowdays, 30-60 texts in and out, maybe 40 emails, and an hour of browsing the internet spread throughout the day. I might spend about 30 minutes with calendar adjustments, contact additions, and checking tasks over the course of the day.
The phone will still have 50-60% of the battery remaining at the end of the day. If I use GPS for a little while I can expect to need to charge at the end of the day.
Tilt Battery.
As a Network Engineer I am using my phone constantly. Sometimes you wish people didn't know that you had the ability to always check your email
I unplug mine at 7:30am. I read and reply to 80+ emails, talk for 2-3hours (while typing on laptop), use Opera Mini for 15-30mins, use blutooth for file transfers, use Wifi to test the wireless network, run WIFIFOFUM, and other phone general things. I will be at 15% charge by the time I get home at 6:30. Sometimes I'm lucky enough to to use my USB cable to charge it and I'll be fine all night.
I knew the Tilt have fair to below average battery life before I bought it. It's like buying a Vette or any other V8 car and expecting awesome gas mileage, it's not going to happen.
The Iphones do have a fairly good battery usage time. Just like their Ipods can last forever. They have had lots of R&D time to make it all work.
Some people say I should have bought an Iphone, but I am very happy with my little black brick. It feels sturdy and fits well in my massive bear hands (6'6tall)
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Hi,
I'm thinking of changing from the M3100 to the Kaiser.
Is the battery life any better as my phone with push email goes flat so quick.
Cheers.
What do you consider "quick"?
My TyTN II is running 24/7 with a constant 3G-connection, 5 minute interval for POP3-mail and Exchange-pushmail. I also call about 45 minutes/day and send out a few SMS.
Based on my experiences so far, my battery should last about 2 days before going to backup-battery. And I think that's decent enough for the usage I demand from this device (it also helps to have 4 chargers laying around in various places).
Getting ~ 18 hours with ActiveSync email push "As items arrive", 3G / HSDPA, around ~ 3 - 5MB data download per day, ~ 30 mins calls, light GPS usage. Not pretty but given the large featureset and speed of the device (e.g. data download) one has to make compromises. A larger battery design would have been nice but a charger at home and in the office and a spare battery when at neither one do the trick as well.
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I'm thinking of changing from the M3100 to the Kaiser.
Is the battery life any better as my phone with push email goes flat so quick.
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In my case - rather light usage - it's roughly the same as with my previous Hermes, which means ~2 days when Auto (2/3G) mode, and ~3 days when on 2G-only mode.
Not so good on mine
I am very unhappy with mine, particularly compared with my Trinity (same usage pattern, but I get probably twice less battery).
- Listening to music on the speaker for 15-20 mins drops the battery from 100% to less than 90% (after a full night charge).
- Using GPS for 60 mins drops the battery by a 20-30%. These are not scientific measurements, but I am almost reluctant to use the device because of this.
It would seem, compared to other people’s comments, that my battery or device has a problem, so it might not be a good indicator.
Compared to Trinity (wm6), screen, performance, Bluetooth (no problems with SE DS 970) is a big improvement. Weight (190g) and size is not. Trinity felt very robust, particularly due to absence of keyboard.
Compared to Hermes, everything is much better.
Is the trinity 3G? If not, it's not a fair comparison.
Thanks for those answers.
Well I'm getting about 12 hours from my 3100 so it seems the Kasier is pretty good.
Battery 95% when started - GPS for 2+ hours + a few phone calls - battery 44%. Which I actually consider ok - GPS uses a lot of juice at the best of times. For long trips I will just use my external GPS receiver.
Most of the time you use GPS when you are in a car. Get a charger for in the car.
I have one at home, work and in the car. Works just great! Its a price to pay to be continuously online on a mobile phone, a price I am willing to pay. Just need to get used to charging even if battery isnt low.
I probably will buy a 2nd accu pack later.
If there's a Kaiser cradle that will be sooooo cool.
Battery is highly sufficient for myself.
Battery not too great for my usage patterns. 3G push all day and night, beam autoreceive off, bluetooth WIFI off. Lasts about 24 hours.
Just out of curiosity, what brightness/auto-dim/auto-off settings do you guys use?
i take my phone off the charger at 7am have push mail running and have band set to gsm. im down to 60% by 4pm with light use(30 min talk+15 min internet)
heavy use(1 hr talk + 30 minutes internet im down to 40%. subtract an extra 35-40% if i listen to internet music through BT for an hour while at the gym. when i use gps in the car i have the charger hooked up so no drain. i only use 3g when listening to internet radio watchin slingbox or surfing large pages. I dont think i could use this as a work phone without constantly chargin. at work im on the phone at least 3hrs a day.
Yep, Trinity is similar to TyTn I except no keyboard, but with GPS.
jamijam said:
Is the trinity 3G? If not, it's not a fair comparison.
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For long calls, I rather use a normal phone than a cell phone. Because at work I am using a laptop, I got used to charge it when I am using my laptop.
What helps is change the brightness settings.
Hi. I am trying to adapt free and commercial version of bandswitch and commmgrpro to work with kaiser to be able to switch between 2G and 3G with one click and a few seconds so save batterty. Because a unknown reason the system that works in Universal, Athena and Tynt doesnt work correctly with Kaiser and Soft Reset is required. I will keep you reported.
Dani
danielherrero said:
Hi. I am trying to adapt free and commercial version of bandswitch and commmgrpro to work with kaiser to be able to switch between 2G and 3G with one click and a few seconds so save batterty. Because a unknown reason the system that works in Universal, Athena and Tynt doesnt work correctly with Kaiser and Soft Reset is required. I will keep you reported.
Dani
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it's very fast if you use phone configuration... you set to GSM or AUTO, and in a few seconds you have 3G o GPRS connection..
laapsaap said:
For long calls, I rather use a normal phone than a cell phone. Because at work I am using a laptop, I got used to charge it when I am using my laptop.
What helps is change the brightness settings.
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The power it requires to lit the Screen, the less light the less power needed. Thus making the battery last (a bit) longer
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it's very fast if you use phone configuration... you set to GSM or AUTO, and in a few seconds you have 3G o GPRS connection..
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Hi pepeto.
Yep, you are right, but you ve to go to phone/menu/options/band.....And this system doesnt allow to go to 3g, for example, for 10 minutes and then automatically switch back to 2G if you forgot to do it...
Its easier to do one click in today plugin....At least in my case because I ve to switch many times per day.....
Dani
I've been researching this phone and I really like it so far, but I have a question about the battery.
I've read about the battery lasting something like 9 hours or so.. now my question is that 9 hours while constantly in use?
For example if I leave my house at 3:00 PM with a full charge hang out with my friends, end up at a bar at night, and I maybe talk for 20 minutes, send 5 txt messages and barely mess with the phone, will the phone dying around Midnight?
With that type of light usage it can last a day or even two deopending on how you config. & the radio you use.
The +or- 6-8 hours is with wifi, BT, 3g data usage, gps, etc...
I make it about half the day(5-6 hours), but I've got AgileMobile running all day using 3G connection so I'm assuming I'm running normally. This is greatly improved by switching off 3G(adds another 2-3 hours). I put maybe 15-30 minutes of calls on my phone a day, it's mostly a mobile web browser and instant messenger.
To get through a full day for me I charge the phone in my jeep while driving to / from work, and most days I eat lunch out so I charge it then as well.
Thanks for the replies. I will probably have all data connections turned off, and won't run GPS on days like that.
I really dig this phone, I just got a little worried about the chance that I won't go home after some heavy drinking and won't have a phone to use in the morning...
Also, I just read on a website review from Laptopmag.com that said "We left a fully charged Tilt on over a long weekend, and when we returned, the unit still had three out of four bars of battery life"... What do you think?
Well I think if you upgrade to wm6.1, you should gt alot better battery life.
I was sick (in bed most of the day) yesterday so I took my phone off charge at about 7am in the morning.
I sent some messages, surfed the internet with hsdpa for about 3 hours (and this is in a bad signal area, which means more battery consumption)
then did some wifi (20mins)
and a bluetooth recieve or two.
I just checked the battery level this morning (8am) and I still had 57% left. I was abit surprised because I thought it will have drained by now like it did with wm6. The point is wm6.1 has a lot better battery life. So for maxumum battery life you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents
Battery life...
Hi I have had the kaiser for not long really... there's a neat program that tells you what is the drain, of the battery...
well if you are not touching it and not doing anything it drains about 6-10ma, so based on that yes, it can last for a looooooooong time, now when you call it goes to 200-400ma, so yes it drains more battery there. ( as you would think it would )
then again you can have the backlight to low, to use less battery, also, turn the screen off when not using it, and change the radio an a lot of hacks.
based on my experience using EDGE, the GPS, the screen, playing a game, sending some mms, and talking, it can really kill your battery in no time.
but you can also well get a car charger ( be carefull with those ) or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
I have seen people talking about a 3000mah battery so that could really drive the phone for a loooooooong time, better think about other issues, like how sucky the camera is... ( maybe with the video drivers we are wating for this will get fixed ), also well, sometimes the performance is not that good, ( also video drivers I think ), besides that, and if you don't mind like I do, to have to wait for a few seconds to get things going on, the phone is a real jewel, if you live life in the fast lane, well maybe that second to open the keyboard will kill you
TC !
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or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
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which one do u recommend? also where can u find this battery?
thanks
^^
Seidio 1650 battery and the Mugen 1500 batteries seem to be good oem size batteries from I have read. THere is a thread on the Kaiser Accessories board about batteries.......
I had a similar experience with excessive current consumption in standby, likely caused by the GPS though it is off (see Post "TyTN II / Kaiser issue: GPS & battery drain").
Perhaps you should install "BatteryStatus". Make yourself familiar with the battery current display, and try to figure out how much power your device draws.
Another nice test is, switch all units off (phone, WLAN, Bluetooth, GPS, really everything). Make sure no program is running (TaskManager). Leave the fully charged phone alone for 5 hours or so. Recheck the battery capacity whether it dropped more than very few percent. If you do not need GPS frequently, you may simply try a soft reset. If you have interesting results, please be so kind and add them to the abovementioned thread, too.
BusterTyTN
i am not seeing what everyones problem with theire battery is? i havent charged my phone in days. last on the weekend, sunday to be exact. i've been browsing the web, specifically posting on these very forums, downloading programs, texting and talking on the phone as i have no house phone, and just getting to know my phone. using the action screen, ultimatelaunch, etc.
now i do notice i go from 100% to 70% in an instant but once i get under 70%, the phone is a champ. im just not seeing the issue. im getting 2 days easy. no car charger. only time i charge is at home, when im headed for bed. maybe its just me
Specs:
HTC rom (2/15/08)
stock radio
Quick menu
home plugin
action screen
home customizer
google maps
pocketcm
Interesting!
Can you provide more details on the ROM version you are using?
Go to Start/Settings/System/Device Information to get that info.
Or if you can post a screenshot of such screen, the better....
However, you failed to mention if you have used the internal GPS at all.... That's when we start seeing poor battery performance... Just after some GPS use and sometimes not even then, but at random GPS uses.
Cheers!
RayanMX
a screen shot of it would be nice
havent used the internal GPS yet.
ROM: 1.62.502.0
ROM date: 1/17/08
radio: 1.27.14.09
protocol: 22.45.88.07h
i get nearly 50hrs with my tilt.. no gps but push is active and bout 200 txts a day maybe 2h of phone calling now.. i drained it down to 0% twice b4 doing full recharges now battery seems to be good. also my screen brightness is set to the 3rd notch.. 30%.
i think the old battery (the one that had plastic on its back) had better life than the new one (the one with a solid aluminium plate) this is my second tilt, and i liked my frist one a lot more..
on my old tilt my GPS worked indoors, and the batterylife was a lot like yours due to the battery.. i get down to about 60% now at the end of the day instead of the previous 70%
the newer tilt just improved the USB plug, the battery (now it doenst get hot), and the keyboard.
I really am starting to wonder about this. I have a TyTN2 and I installed the new Google Search bar for the home screen. I saw a huge difference in how quickly the battery would die. I'm convinced this GOogle search bar was the culprit.
Now I'm wondering if I disable the really awesome HTC interface if the battery will go up accordingly. Worth a shot.
htc home is a battery sucker.. try PDC project digital clock its very easy on batt
well mine does drain a bit, mainly w/ gps.
I wonder what your doing with it? just leaving the phone on? ive got 2 days without using it. Usually mine is streaming stereo music at least and logged into irc all day, ive just been bringing my plug everywhere with me.
Do the new 6.1 roms do anything to fix this?
Also working in the cellular world, (im sure you guys know this already) if your phone is searching for signal where you are most of the day your battery will drain really fast also. When i get somewhere w/ no signal for the phone i shut that part off.
What makes a big difference is the setting of backlight. Just to see the difference, try navigating with TomTom with brightness level 0, and test it with the maximum amount. Same goes for browsing the web. The backlight consumes a lot of power. A lot of people aren't mentioning the backlight setting, so it's really hard to compare these devices with each other. So closet410, what backlight setting do you use? And maybe you should be more specific about the phone call durations, time you browse with it, etc. Some people are calling 2 hours a day or more with it, and some not even 10min in 2 days. So it's a big difference.
u guys r forgetting the most important factor, are u in a 3G area? i have tmobile usa, and only have edge, and easily get 2 days with moderate/heavy use. ive put my wifes atnt sim into my tilt, and honestly was not impressed with the increased surfing speeds. tethering is night and day difference, but not worth the insane battery drain if ur not gonna be tethering..
omar
try using WIFI on full performance... that shu kill it in about 4 hrs...
this is all basic stuff people if you dont use 3G, wifi, GPS it will last for ever! As soon as you use any of those or all at the same time your screwed. also phone calls are the worst second is wifi then GPS and the 3G
i dont use wifi/gps or 3g
I think worse is 3g.
I can listen streaming radio thru WiFi and wireless bluetooth headset for 10 hours
and just 3 hours over 3g connection
3g connection would kill the batt fast but then again if you think about it. if you are going to pay for it everymonth you might as well use it. or else the money is just going to waste. sometimes i am hesitant when turning off my 3g becuase when i start surfing again i always forget to turn it back on
no phone calls since i made the thread. just playing around with the cube for about an hour and a half. backlight setting at 15 seconds. still no internal GPS usage. had a few probelms with the cube last night so i played with it a lot. got it right now. did not charge it last night. today no texts sent and no calls. just checked the time every now and then. sitting at 25%. still havent charged it since sunday. obviously its now thursday. and others are reporting even if they dont use the phone the battery gets drained alot. did i luck up and just get a great phone? i'll keep a running log of what i do starting now. granted it wont be a scientific test but i will just keep track of what i do with th phone.
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3g connection would kill the batt fast but then again if you think about it. if you are going to pay for it everymonth you might as well use it. or else the money is just going to waste. sometimes i am hesitant when turning off my 3g becuase when i start surfing again i always forget to turn it back on
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used kaiser tweaks to set it at HSDPA
closet410 said:
used kaiser tweaks to set it at HSDPA
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HSDPA is amazing, get around 500-750 Kbps connection !
It's "3G" plus some.
Hi all,
I'm currently the proud (and quite satisfied) owner of an HTC Artemis. The only problem is that the phone keeps hanging more often lately. I think the end of it's lifetime is approaching...
So I'm lokking for another phone. My demands are: GPS & wifi. I'm not looking for a photo-camera that can call, I've got a digital camera for taking photo's. Google told me that the Diamond was the phone for me (I'm very much into graphical stuff, and the g-sensor is just the bomb!). However, when google-ing i've read about 2 issues. I'd like to get your opinions on these:
1. Reception
This is an issue I've found only very little reference to, so it might not be an actual problem. I've read that the reception on the diamond is quite low. I've read that a tester couldn't reach a reception of 5 out of 5 bars, no matter how close or far he was from the GSM-tower. The best he got was 3 bars out of 5. Is this an exception or do you also have this problem?
2. Battery life
OK, this one I've read a lot about. I've read about people whose Diamond gave up after 5 hours just in standby, but I've also read about people who use their Diamond "normally" (thats a very vague term) and who can do that for about 3 days without recharging the battery.
What about your Diamonds. What do you use them for (and how often), and how long does your battery last?
Are there perhaps tweaks that can help to lengthen the battery-life (can 3G be switched off for example, I think that is one of the main power-drains, right?)
Of course, if you have another phone I've missed in my Google-tour, feel free to mention it!
1, I live out in the sticks in the UK and can get full signal on the Orange network without any problems. The 2G and 3G signals are pretty much identical to what I got on my old Tytn so from my experience the reception is not a problem.
2, I've read a lot about the battery life being rubbish on the diamond. I charge overnight every night, but the remaining power at the end of the day is pretty much always more than what I had on my Tytn.
I probably use it for the following daily:
20 mins phone calls
a bit of playing around with GPS but nothing much
up to around 30 mins wifi
data connection usually on all day
an hour or so playing around with the phone apps
at weekends I poll my IMAP server every 15 mins and it doesn't make a lot of difference to the battery.
Right now, it's about an hour before I'll go to bed and I'm still on 50% battery so I don't see much problem with the life. I know it's a lot lower than non pda phones, but if I had a normal phone I'd only be using it for calls from the above list
Reception for me is a little less than my TyTn, but not enough to worry about.
Battery was terrible at first, but has settled down now. I don't think people realise that they probably thrash the battery for the first week or so playing around getting to know the device. Usually I have about 50% charge left after 18 hours so if turned it off at night I could squeeze two days from the phone without charging. Usage wise, pretty much the same as StarMonkey but I browse in Opera for about an hour a day, not with WiFi though.
Battery life might bother some, but if you've had a TyTn or another Smartphone you'll be used to charging more or less every night. This one's no different.
Thanks for your opinions! anybody else who wants to share his or her experience?
derinahon said:
Battery life might bother some, but if you've had a TyTn or another Smartphone you'll be used to charging more or less every night. This one's no different.
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As I said, I have an Artemis right now, and I need to recharge twice a week. I don't use bluetooth, and I turn off Wifi or GPRS when I'm not using it. I think that helps with battery-life.
I have no problem with the signal but the battery is much worse than with my Artemis or tytn II. I use tom tom a lot and get 2 hours max on the diamond. Where my Artemis and tytn was over 4 hours. But extra batteries are cheap enough on e-bay.
I love this phone a lot! and the price is finally drop! SO i want to buy one as a x'max gift to myself.... But i really care the battery! IF i use it to listen music 2 hour and use internet sometime, maybe half hour talking and about 10-20 text message. Could I use it for whole day? And does it have any common problem (i own a p3600 before , the freeze problem was totally drive me crazy!)
thanks
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I hammer my phone... music (about an hour a day), games, internet, a few calls, a few texts, etc, etc. I can get two days out of a full charge. I really don't know why people keep going on about battery life of the Diamond. It would only ever be an issue if you couldn't get near a PC / laptop or a mains outlet for a couple of days. I'm happy to sacrifice a bit of battery life purely for the slick, sexy design. If you need longer than two days, you can always purchase the extened battery, but then lose the cool design.
thanks! then i can buy it now!!
i beg to differ. if i surf on the internet via wifi or 3g for an hour, the battery goes to about half. some calls + emails + photo taking + music drains my battery by the end of the day. gps with google maps also drains like crazy, can bring your battery from full to none within 2 hours. i bought an extended battery so it would last me a second day.
I have no problem with battery. I have 3g and wifi on all day. Push email may use battery more. But I have set it to manual instead of auto. The battery is not an issue for me so far, having used the phone now for over 5 months.
takki83 said:
I love this phone a lot! and the price is finally drop! SO i want to buy one as a x'max gift to myself.... But i really care the battery! IF i use it to listen music 2 hour and use internet sometime, maybe half hour talking and about 10-20 text message. Could I use it for whole day? And does it have any common problem (i own a p3600 before , the freeze problem was totally drive me crazy!)
thanks
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The diamond's standard battery isn't going to win any endurance tests thats for damn sure's...
If u use wi-fi to surf the net or your 3g to surf or Gps a lot = the standard battery will be dead in about 3 hrs.
If however u don't use wi-fi-3g-gps-video watching heavy & actually dont do much on it at all = u might get 2 days worth.
But don't be fooled, if u use the wi-fi/ gps/ 3g heavy = it drains fast, so I got x3 standard size batteries & an external charger = I'm always ok & my phone still looks nice & not some fat bloated brick because of using 1 of those thicker extended life things
So to finish off here :
1: heavy use = a few hrs worth & u be drained.
2: light use = 1 day maybe.
3: barely use = 2 - 3 days possibly.
or buy an extended battery & have a brick = why want the diamond at all then ? if your going to make it ugly & fat
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untrueparadox said:
i beg to differ. if i surf on the internet via wifi or 3g for an hour, the battery goes to about half. some calls + emails + photo taking + music drains my battery by the end of the day. gps with google maps also drains like crazy, can bring your battery from full to none within 2 hours. i bought an extended battery so it would last me a second day.
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If your battery only lasts that long (even by the Diamonds standards), I'd demand a new one from your supplier because you have a problem... or some software you've installed is causing increased battery drain. Of course things like WiFi and GPS will cause more drain, especially if they're left on.Perhaps you're just a very heavy user
so battery is not a problem actually right??
takki83 said:
so battery is not a problem actually right??
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I refer the right honourable gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago (#6)
video playback and battery life
How long will the battery last if i play divx video on the diamond?
Any experiences with video and battery life?
On my old magician, i get up to 4-5hrs from the battery when i play movies(320x240) thu bluetooth.