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Battery Life

If anyone can help, I just need to know one thing before I get one of these.
How long does the battery last with direct mail on all the time using a 3G connection.
My Touch keeps it going for 2 days (at a push) on GPRS.

I dont think it can last that long.
I took off from the power source at 9.00 saturday morning and used couple of times for 3G internet browsing, trying configurations, browsing again. And was turned off during saturday evening.
When I back at home, Sunday 19:00, it was 9% left.
Btw, I dont use push mail and not always connected to 3G.

If you dont have GPS/constant GPRS connections active, then I'm fairly sure the life will be respectable once the battery is conditioned.
Currently, under heavy use mine lasts from 9am to about 11pm. The battery has only had three days of charging though, and wont be optimal just yet.

I think thats where the problem is going to be, if direct push keeps the data connection going all the time its going to last about 3 hours, maybe more with the screen off.
Anyone doing this on a daily basis? Its a shame 3G uses so much power, as I said GPRS/direct push can go almost 2 days on my Touch/Elf.
Might have to give this a miss then, which is a shame.

mattpark,
Interesting ... How to make it optimal then?
By fully charging it several times?
Or by connecting it to a power source all the time?
Thanks

gogol said:
mattpark,
Interesting ... How to make it optimal then?
By fully charging it several times?
Or by connecting it to a power source all the time?
Thanks
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Make sure you always charge the battery completely full (ie till the light comes on green) the first 5 to 10 times...
FULL means charging it double the time it takes for the light to become green. Green light means 90% (although indicators show 100%), and the last 10% takes the double the time to 'squeeze' in there
A battery has to 'set'.... So be sure you to follow this guide

Mt 8525 would last *most* of the day with direct push.
If I spoke on the phone more than a couple hours the batter would be dead or at least turning its self off by 5pm.
I'm wondering if the 8925 will be the same?
I purchased an extended battery which lets me use the phone all day.. but for a 3600 batter that's huge and requires a custom back it only lasts 2 days at best so far. I've been testing 2 weeks.
I may not get an extended battery because this huge backing is anoying and ruins the look of the phone. I love how the kaiser looks and would hate to ruin that. I would get an extended if it fit into the case itself.
Bottom line though I think an extended battery of some sort of absolutely required if you use push mail.. the only question is how long it will last.

Oh balls, Ive just bought one - So thats nokia e65, tytn1, htcs710, htc touch and tytn2 all inside 5 months!!

If you're concerned w/push email and less with web surfing, you can change the band the phone uses to plain GSM (EDGE) and that would allow you to use it for days at a time.
Using 3G/HSDPA, mine lasts from around 7AM to about 3PM with push constantly running and at least 2 hours of web surfing and about 1/2 hour of phone usage.
Hope that helps.

is it possible to disable 3g under configuration settings?, It is not really needed most of the time!

Disabling 3G
Go to Phone, settings, select band, i think choose GSM only, that should do it. There are some apps too that can do this for you on the TYTN.
your battery will go from 8-12 hrs to 24+, and thats w/ push email, i really couldn't care if a 16k email comes in 6 seconds or 2???
do you?

Battery life so far has been okay (only been using for about 2 days). I have direct PUSH activated but I am only using edge. I take a couple of calls per day + 10 min internet browsing. Battery is about 10-15% at 10 pm at night. My day starts around 9 am.
PS- just a reminder to uncheck the "receive incoming beams" in Settings menu if you don't use that function to save some battery life.

drunkm3nky said:
PS- just a reminder to uncheck the "receive incoming beams" in Settings menu if you don't use that function to save some battery life.
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There's no infrared support on this device, so I'm not sure if that option does anything. Strange that they kept the .cpl though (had assumed it was accidentally left in the as-yet-unfinished AT&T roms).
M

If you don't want your data connection open all the time, try installing GBSoft's GPRS & Audio Tweak program. Get it here: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
You can set it to turn off your GPRS connection every x minutes.
M

rolandrat said:
If anyone can help, I just need to know one thing before I get one of these.
How long does the battery last with direct mail on all the time using a 3G connection.
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For the first week I was playing with the phone a lot, so battery was draining quickly. But last two days I've got easier, so after ~25 hours since disconnecting charger, I still have 57% battery left.
Generally, I think battery life would be more or less like Hermes' - ~2 days with 3G, and ~3 days with 2G-only.

eva_d said:
For the first week I was playing with the phone a lot, so battery was draining quickly. But last two days I've got easier, so after ~25 hours since disconnecting charger, I still have 57% battery left.
Generally, I think battery life would be more or less like Hermes' - ~2 days with 3G, and ~3 days with 2G-only.
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Do you have push email enabled all the time?

mlekas said:
There's no infrared support on this device, so I'm not sure if that option does anything. Strange that they kept the .cpl though (had assumed it was accidentally left in the as-yet-unfinished AT&T roms).
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It also applies on BT incoming transfers I think

ID64 said:
It also applies on BT incoming transfers I think
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Yes, it does.

pepeto2001 said:
Do you have push email enabled all the time?
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No, I don't use push e-mail. I've set up automatic e-mail checking every 15 minutes once, tough - but I got rid of it for now, as data connection stays open after checking email, which is not quite nice, regarding battery life...

Can I charge the battery using my old HTC Magician charger?
It has the same input and output (at least from what I read).
The reason that I want to use the HTC Magician charger because I live in NL (charger has 2 legs) and I bought the Kaiser from UK (charger has 3 legs).

Battery problem

Hi,
I just bought my Kaiser 4 days ago.
I am using the bluetooth adn an SDHC card.
My problem is, following: the batter goes every day empty! I unplugged from the charger 4hours (I was using the phone for one our), and the batter is on 34%.
Do you have the same problem or my batter is wrong?
tnx:
Adrián

Wow, really fast battery drain.
No, I dont have that fast drain.
Do you use data connection all the time? Wi-fi? 3G?
Backlight? Power off when device is not used ...
Worth to check.

I switched off the online data connection and the 3G..
I jut pulled off the SDHC card for testing the battery...
I hope it will help..
How often do you charge the battery, and how long do you use the phone per day?

It depends ... between 1 or 2 days ... and I usually charge when it is at 30% - 50%, during evening.
And I use 3G for browsing the internet for now and then randomly also MSN/Yahoo chat.
I suggest to hard-reset, and run your phone without any app installed.
Then see the battery drain.

big source of battery drain for me was the WiFi and the push email.

I have also noticed the battery drains pretty damn fast. Much faster than my wizard it would seem. I am slowly disabling things to see if I can find the source. Otherwise I am calling HTC and getting a new battery.

Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick

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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Nope - no bluetooth - no push email. Its very wierd.

sorry i was referring to the OP

I am using the Spb GPRS Monitor.... Does it need extra battery power?

Pooper said:
Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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I think that is not correct. Bluetooth hardly has any influence on the battery drain.
You can leave it on for ever.
But do a test yourselve.
1. Load the battery 100 %
2. Set bluetooth on or of and put your baby to sleep for 8 hours.
3. Check the battery situation in the morning, the first time you start using it. You should, in 8 hours, not have lost more that 4 till 5%.
That is with GPRS and no 3G or HSDPA. I did not test that, but...
You will see that a night with, or without, makes hardly any diiference.
But maybe I am wrong.
My personal experience is that using GPRS ( Phone=GSM only) is the most efficient. Especially if you have Messenger on the whole time.
Huib

Hi
When Bluetooth is on the device will not go into standby even if the screen appears dark as Bluetooth needs the OS to be alive to work, so if you have programs loaded that are using CPU cycles the battery will drain quickly as these programs will run continually.
Regards
Phil

The only thing that I am saying is that my phone, in 8 hours, with bluetooth on, uses max 4% of battery drain. With blutooth off I see no difference.
The phone is in sleeping mode, so people can call me. What else can I say?
So I cannot say that Bluetooth drains my battery faster. At least not visible to me.
I tested did a long time ago with several systems. the last one, before my Tytn II came was on blootooth its whole life. And now again I see the same at my little kaiser.
Huib
P.s. and then this.
I see as standbye the situation, that I only can switch it back on with sliding the keyboard or the power switch. If other keys do not react, is in't this standbye? The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum

herpi said:
The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
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How rude!

Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.

darkilici said:
Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Absolutely.
Huib

For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki

There is no I/R in Kaiser, and BT standby seems to draw very little. I leave mine all the time, I loose about 5% battery overnight. WiFi is a completely different story, it's a power PIG.

austinsnyc said:
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
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I still disagree.
When bluetooth is just ON and not connected to any device it hardly consums power. (IMHO)
Do a simple test and let it on for a night sleep with and without bluetooth.
When connected to a headset or whatever it of course consumes.
Pls tell me the difference.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305518&highlight=battery
Huib

I have had my TyTN II since Tuesday the 25th - so only 2 days now. I pulled the phone out of the charger at 6:50am this morning. I have WiFi turned OFF (only use at night when I am surfing while watching TV). I have BlueTooth off. I do have BB Connect installed and running with 1 BES account and 3 BIS accounts. I was on the phone for maybe 5 total minutes so far this morning - and I surfed for like 10 minutes via EDGE on the way to work. I do have SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 installed, but from what I read it doesn't effect battery life. I have the unit set to shut the screen off after 2 minutes....and my LCD brightness is at like 70% or so.
With all this - as of 10:35am this morning - I am already down to 75% battery. At this rate, the phone will be dead before 5pm....! Not even a full day.
Man - I hope this gets better because I can't run my life with phone plugged in half the day just so it will last me!

My tilt battery is amazing...

i am not seeing what everyones problem with theire battery is? i havent charged my phone in days. last on the weekend, sunday to be exact. i've been browsing the web, specifically posting on these very forums, downloading programs, texting and talking on the phone as i have no house phone, and just getting to know my phone. using the action screen, ultimatelaunch, etc.
now i do notice i go from 100% to 70% in an instant but once i get under 70%, the phone is a champ. im just not seeing the issue. im getting 2 days easy. no car charger. only time i charge is at home, when im headed for bed. maybe its just me
Specs:
HTC rom (2/15/08)
stock radio
Quick menu
home plugin
action screen
home customizer
google maps
pocketcm

Interesting!
Can you provide more details on the ROM version you are using?
Go to Start/Settings/System/Device Information to get that info.
Or if you can post a screenshot of such screen, the better....
However, you failed to mention if you have used the internal GPS at all.... That's when we start seeing poor battery performance... Just after some GPS use and sometimes not even then, but at random GPS uses.
Cheers!
RayanMX

a screen shot of it would be nice

havent used the internal GPS yet.
ROM: 1.62.502.0
ROM date: 1/17/08
radio: 1.27.14.09
protocol: 22.45.88.07h

i get nearly 50hrs with my tilt.. no gps but push is active and bout 200 txts a day maybe 2h of phone calling now.. i drained it down to 0% twice b4 doing full recharges now battery seems to be good. also my screen brightness is set to the 3rd notch.. 30%.

i think the old battery (the one that had plastic on its back) had better life than the new one (the one with a solid aluminium plate) this is my second tilt, and i liked my frist one a lot more..
on my old tilt my GPS worked indoors, and the batterylife was a lot like yours due to the battery.. i get down to about 60% now at the end of the day instead of the previous 70%
the newer tilt just improved the USB plug, the battery (now it doenst get hot), and the keyboard.

I really am starting to wonder about this. I have a TyTN2 and I installed the new Google Search bar for the home screen. I saw a huge difference in how quickly the battery would die. I'm convinced this GOogle search bar was the culprit.
Now I'm wondering if I disable the really awesome HTC interface if the battery will go up accordingly. Worth a shot.

htc home is a battery sucker.. try PDC project digital clock its very easy on batt

well mine does drain a bit, mainly w/ gps.
I wonder what your doing with it? just leaving the phone on? ive got 2 days without using it. Usually mine is streaming stereo music at least and logged into irc all day, ive just been bringing my plug everywhere with me.
Do the new 6.1 roms do anything to fix this?
Also working in the cellular world, (im sure you guys know this already) if your phone is searching for signal where you are most of the day your battery will drain really fast also. When i get somewhere w/ no signal for the phone i shut that part off.

What makes a big difference is the setting of backlight. Just to see the difference, try navigating with TomTom with brightness level 0, and test it with the maximum amount. Same goes for browsing the web. The backlight consumes a lot of power. A lot of people aren't mentioning the backlight setting, so it's really hard to compare these devices with each other. So closet410, what backlight setting do you use? And maybe you should be more specific about the phone call durations, time you browse with it, etc. Some people are calling 2 hours a day or more with it, and some not even 10min in 2 days. So it's a big difference.

u guys r forgetting the most important factor, are u in a 3G area? i have tmobile usa, and only have edge, and easily get 2 days with moderate/heavy use. ive put my wifes atnt sim into my tilt, and honestly was not impressed with the increased surfing speeds. tethering is night and day difference, but not worth the insane battery drain if ur not gonna be tethering..
omar

try using WIFI on full performance... that shu kill it in about 4 hrs...

this is all basic stuff people if you dont use 3G, wifi, GPS it will last for ever! As soon as you use any of those or all at the same time your screwed. also phone calls are the worst second is wifi then GPS and the 3G

i dont use wifi/gps or 3g

I think worse is 3g.
I can listen streaming radio thru WiFi and wireless bluetooth headset for 10 hours
and just 3 hours over 3g connection

3g connection would kill the batt fast but then again if you think about it. if you are going to pay for it everymonth you might as well use it. or else the money is just going to waste. sometimes i am hesitant when turning off my 3g becuase when i start surfing again i always forget to turn it back on

no phone calls since i made the thread. just playing around with the cube for about an hour and a half. backlight setting at 15 seconds. still no internal GPS usage. had a few probelms with the cube last night so i played with it a lot. got it right now. did not charge it last night. today no texts sent and no calls. just checked the time every now and then. sitting at 25%. still havent charged it since sunday. obviously its now thursday. and others are reporting even if they dont use the phone the battery gets drained alot. did i luck up and just get a great phone? i'll keep a running log of what i do starting now. granted it wont be a scientific test but i will just keep track of what i do with th phone.

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3g connection would kill the batt fast but then again if you think about it. if you are going to pay for it everymonth you might as well use it. or else the money is just going to waste. sometimes i am hesitant when turning off my 3g becuase when i start surfing again i always forget to turn it back on
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used kaiser tweaks to set it at HSDPA

closet410 said:
used kaiser tweaks to set it at HSDPA
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HSDPA is amazing, get around 500-750 Kbps connection !
It's "3G" plus some.

The real reason the kaisers eats up battery

I've had an experience the explains why the Kaiser goes through batteries like it's the grand prix. It may be tied to the reason Apple started the I-Phone as 2G.
I own the kaiser, the Nokia e90 and N7710. On a full charge and normal use (for me that's about 50 calls a day in/out, 20 mins of games, 30 mins of reading rss and other information and 30 misc. minutes of backlight on with limited GPS use and very limited wifi. The Nokia e90 lasts 2/3 days, the N7710 2 days and the Kaiser is at 10/20% in 8 hours. But here I am in small Liberia on business, no 3G and yes there is GPS for those that attribute power consumption to GPS and the result is, unplug at 8am by 5pm I am at 90% power (yes my calls are less etc.) but this is amazing. (Worse - I wasted $42 from ATT on a standby battery prior to departure.
My conclusion, 3G is the battery killer...... I'll like to hear from those in none 3G markets about their consumption because I suspect they were the ones who kept taking about being at 80% and made me feel they were on another planet........
I wonder what Apple users willl say when I-Phones start lasting 4 hours

you have a good battery. My battery is retarded, gotta charge it every single day . After about 1hr and 45 mins of talk time , some lil screwing around with music and software . I am here , at 50% .

WiFi
I believe the 3G might be a battery killer, so does the WiFi. If I turn on my Wifi, my kaiser can last for 3-4 hours only.

makes sense, it's why Apple kept 3G out of the original iPhone. It is a battery sucker for some reason, perhaps poorly designed chip or software, who knows. Although maybe Apple will push some manufacturer to make a decent 3G chip that doesn't kill batteries.

iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.

I'm using T-mobile USA and there is no 3G here.
Just using GPS with Live Search, e-mail checking every 15min. Maybe 15min of web surfing on an Edge network, and otherwise normal use. If I take it off the charger around 10am - it's at around 20% battery life by 2am.
So I get about 16-20 hours out of a full charge with normal use. No 3G.

I thought 3g being a battery killer was pretty obvious.
I can get 2 days out of my phone, in 3g, but I set it to auto-activesync every 30 minutes and maybe an hour or 2 of talk time in that period.

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iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
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For starters, the iPhone isn't 3G.
Second, tell him to return it since it sounds defective. I own an iPhone that I use daily when I don't want the bulky Tilt on my hip, and I listen to a live stream for about 8 hours and have plenty of battery life left. The battery life can't even be compared to a Tilt. It's superb. Try listening to an RSS feed on the Tilt for more than an hour. You're phone will almost be dead.

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For starters, the iPhone isn't 3G.
Second, tell him to return it since it sounds defective. I own an iPhone that I use daily when I don't want the bulky Tilt on my hip, and I listen to a live stream for about 8 hours and have plenty of battery life left. The battery life can't even be compared to a Tilt. It's superb. Try listening to an RSS feed on the Tilt for more than an hour. You're phone will almost be dead.
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before you get on iphone fanboi ego please readd
nobody say that iphone had 3g, it will.
battery of the tilt is on bad side, but iphone battery is nowhere near superb.(except yours, of course )
its not just my bro some peeps i know say the same thing. yea, should tell em to return.
no hate for iphone here cuz i dont own it, but hey I proudly carry my rss-radio-die-fast tilt all day every day. tell ya what my bulky tilt can use for self defense.
btw my bro planning to sell it soon for the upcoming 3g version.

Well....Its rightly Said 3G gulps d battery ...I m in a NON 3g country right nw (at least for d time being ...they r goin to launch it...and dat will be d real test f d battery)
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So does the WIFI ... dats smthing people r nt pointing at...dats also is a battery Guzzller....it eats up mine at d rate f about 20 for 1 hr continuous use on an avg.
On an avg using NON-3g mode, 0.5 hrs Wifi, 2 Hrs Egde, 10 calls, 30 sms
my battery give me about approx 1 dat time...may be bit more.
BUT i think, Seriously using people should go for A HIGh amp battery ....dats GR8 instead f carrying small standby ones.... which will also save d cost!
Regards

Thanks for the reminder, I have known about the 3G battery issues and been meaning to look into how to switch between EDGE and UTMS, looks like this thread outlines it pretty well. Looks like perhaps a few solutions in it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=bandswitch

ok what the hell are u guys doing to get such ****ty battery?
here is my setup..
first start with a good CLEAN rom..
dk's 3.14 w/out voice command.
backlight set to 30%
backlight timeout set to 10secs
keyboard timeout set to 15sec
force edge
direct push activated "as items arrived"
wktask to make sure most apps get closed out.
device sleepmode 1minute
kaiser tweak options.
allow fastsleep during call = yes
all power saving features minus the memory card one, my ringers are stored on memory card..
wm6 dialer..no video. (from my experience the video dialers..aka touch dialers seem to drain battery quicker..call me crazy but i think they do.)
......hmmm cant think of nething else at the moment.. with these settings my battery lasts a good 2-2.5 days
avg 150txts/day
avg 80emails/day
avg 20mins web/day
avg 90mins calls/day
avg 15mins 3g OR wifi/day (mostly for coreplayer's youtube)
now my treo750v will be here tuesday so ima see how these settings compare while running the treo.. getting lil bored of my tilt.

i dont know about u guys but i get a good 2 days with always on bluetooth standard 3g 4 hours of wifi and 115 calls average i also run a 8gb card... make sure your batteries are holding full charges

I get decent battery life out of my Tilt. On T-mobile with no 3G here. I don't do a whole lot of talk time on my phone, so that is a definite factor. Push email running from 8am to 3:30 pm daily. Quite a bit of data usage in general. Don't really use bluetooth or wifi all that much though. At the end of the day I can still have about 85% battery left.
Now if I don't go into airplane mode before I get into the workplace, it can be a different story altogether. I get no signal where I work so it's always searching - which will absolutely destroy my battery.

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iphone battery sucks big time , even without 3g . My bro got an iphone, he cried all day about his battery. yep, 3g kill the thing. Why get an expensive unlimited data plan when your battery aint last long enough to enjoy it fully.
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Here's an idea. Choose which statement you want to make instead of contradicting yourself. That's for my 3G statement.
As far as the rest of your sarcastic follow-up, I own and mod both the iPhone and Tilt. Whether my opinion on which is better means anything to you or another reader, I actually have a "hands-on" experience using both daily. The iPhone is superior in OS, battery life, design, and over-all "phone" use. Get your facts straight about the data plan too. When I purchased the Tilt after having the iPhone on my account first, they switched my 'plan' to a Tilt oriented Unlimited Data (why would you even own a Tilt with anything less) plan, so all that changed was Visual Voice Mail (whuppittydoo), not the $$. If your friends are as educated on the iPhone as yourself I'll take thier opinions on the device and file them under "Former Sidekick Owners" also, and while you're trying to beat off an attacker to "defend" yourself with that dead-battery-brick, maybe I'll stop my 10th hour of podcast listening to see if ya want me to call 911 on my iPhone. lol.

I don't have 3G. I am with the Tmobile USA network and don't use any data unless it is wifi. Is the 3G part of my radio off unless I turn it on, or is it constantly searching for a 3G network? Well disregarding that, I am on my 3rd day with light usage and am at 43% and screen brightness on max brightness.

But i use Edge, i always use Edge, and my battery still gets eaten up.

when i have 3g on my batt dies like crazzi fast. i dont think i can get more than 6 hours out of it. but when i am on edge then the batt would probably go for more then 15 hours on average.

I generally do not turn off my phone at all. It is always running Direct push. Bluetooth is always on. The backlight is set to approximately 50%. The device is set to go to standby after 1 minute. The beam reception is turned off (not sure of the effect since there is no IR. I do not use 3G at all.
I use the phone heavily from around 8am until 10pm and often later. This includes around 2hrs of calls nowdays, 30-60 texts in and out, maybe 40 emails, and an hour of browsing the internet spread throughout the day. I might spend about 30 minutes with calendar adjustments, contact additions, and checking tasks over the course of the day.
The phone will still have 50-60% of the battery remaining at the end of the day. If I use GPS for a little while I can expect to need to charge at the end of the day.

Tilt Battery.
As a Network Engineer I am using my phone constantly. Sometimes you wish people didn't know that you had the ability to always check your email
I unplug mine at 7:30am. I read and reply to 80+ emails, talk for 2-3hours (while typing on laptop), use Opera Mini for 15-30mins, use blutooth for file transfers, use Wifi to test the wireless network, run WIFIFOFUM, and other phone general things. I will be at 15% charge by the time I get home at 6:30. Sometimes I'm lucky enough to to use my USB cable to charge it and I'll be fine all night.
I knew the Tilt have fair to below average battery life before I bought it. It's like buying a Vette or any other V8 car and expecting awesome gas mileage, it's not going to happen.
The Iphones do have a fairly good battery usage time. Just like their Ipods can last forever. They have had lots of R&D time to make it all work.
Some people say I should have bought an Iphone, but I am very happy with my little black brick. It feels sturdy and fits well in my massive bear hands (6'6tall)

How to drastically improve battery life

This took some hunting down so have documented here in case others are not already aware. The Diamond defaults to leaving 3G/GPRS data connections turned on all the time, once it has connected for the first time since turning the phone on. My battery life was terrible until I changed this to disconnect after 60 seconds - the battery life is now great.
GPRS/3G Auto-Disconnect
Just change 2 registry entries in the following part of the registry (download Resco Explorer if you need a registry editor):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
1) Change the DWORD "CacheTime" to the number of seconds the connection should remain active (I use 60 seconds)
2) Change the String "SuspendResume" from "~GPRS" to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off" (without the quotes).
That's it. This solved all of my battery life issues.

I'll give it a try...thanks for the heads-up

or use diamond tweaks app

Not much good if you use push email though...

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how to resolve the battery issue with diamond tweaks?

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mrac41 said:
This took some hunting down so have documented here in case others are not already aware. The Diamond defaults to leaving 3G/GPRS data connections turned on all the time, once it has connected for the first time since turning the phone on. My battery life was terrible until I changed this to disconnect after 60 seconds - the battery life is now great.
GPRS/3G Auto-Disconnect
Just change 2 registry entries in the following part of the registry (download Resco Explorer if you need a registry editor):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
1) Change the DWORD "CacheTime" to the number of seconds the connection should remain active (I use 60 seconds)
2) Change the String "SuspendResume" from "~GPRS" to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off" (without the quotes).
That's it. This solved all of my battery life issues.
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Such a useless suggestion...the GPRS connection doesn't have almost any impact on the battery life if the connection is open or not.
Only if data is trasferring it makes a substantial difference, so if you are working with push mail, whatever parameters you change it is useless. Otherwise, if you browse the web like crazy, again - useless.
The battery cunsumption of this device is ****, period. they probably weren't able to stabilize the chipsed properly, since it gets hot every time you activate the display, like gaming or other features unrelated necessarilly with the Radio.

If you are using Push mail, it indeed is a useless suggestion. However, if I'm checking my train schedule in the morning, and don't do anything else except possibly cal with it, is IS a useful suggestion. Not having the connection established IS more battery efficient than not having it on. It's like making an argument that turning the phone or wifi off would NOT save battery life. Yeah, right. By the way, my device does not get hot at all, except when charging.

mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.

Disconnecting your dataconnection does indeed dramatically improve battery life.
drvdijk said:
By the way, my device does not get hot at all, except when charging.
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You probably don't use GPS. After 10/20 minutes of GPS with these temperatures outside it does get hot.
jobear said:
mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
CacheTime = "0"
SuspendResume = "~GPRS"

They talk about GPRS not GPS if I am wrong.
GPRS does not effect much of the battery.
GPS affects alot of the battery when used.
Grtzzz

I don't see how having GPRS or push email connected all the time and not effecting the battery life. Once you have the connection open the phone/server is constantly sending/receiving packets of data back and forth(syncing) , although minimal if no email is going or coming. Yes it effects battery life big time because its using radio and cpu power. On the other hand GPS i agree it kills the battery life. period.

Thats what I mean normaly the GPRS is sleeping until you decide to go on the internet or look after the weather.
I agree when you use pushmail or other aplications which force the GPRS continuasly to activate its going to cost a lot of battery power.
But when you use it normal to look after the weather sometimes or internet sometimes you can leave it on. It will not drain your battery for life.
Grtzzz

Have to agree with daraj.
The Diamond battery gives me about 2 days of usage between recharges (I don't talk much).
If the GPRS is on (even if I'm doing nothing with the internet connection), on the other hand, the battery last barely 0.5 days.

Have to agree with daraj.
The Diamond battery gives me about 2 days of usage between recharges (I don't talk much).
If the GPRS is on, on the other hand (even if I'm doing nothing with the internet connection), the battery last barely 0.5 days.

I have GPRS on all day long, talk in the phone a couple of times a day, listen to FM radio for maybe 20mins/day and use push mail where i get maybe 20-40mail a day.
I have 1½-2 day on a fully charged battery with my Diamond. I dont find that too bad - actually a lot like my old HTC Trinity.

Battery life too bad
I had Diamond for a week. Battery life is just crap to a stage I am afraid to use it. Initially I thought that I was playing around with it thats why the battery is draining. But today I was doing a 13 hour shift I hardly used the phone except making 3 calls lasting couple of minutes each. Battery was full in the morning - charged at night. By the end of the shift the battery was down to 10-20 percent!! I was so shocked to see this. Without even using the phone, the battery just drains, I dont know why. So, disappointed with it now

kimusan said:
I have GPRS on all day long, talk in the phone a couple of times a day, listen to FM radio for maybe 20mins/day and use push mail where i get maybe 20-40mail a day.
I have 1½-2 day on a fully charged battery with my Diamond. I dont find that too bad - actually a lot like my old HTC Trinity.
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eh? You serious?

God dam it this is the worst phone ive had, even my old n95 lasted longer than this.
All ive done today was a little Wlm, sent 11 txt called about 4 times only afew mins. Mind you i did test out the gps with tomtom but that was a 5 min drive down the road. Ive had to charge it 3 dam times today.
I cant wait for my genuine extend battery to turn up.

jobear said:
mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.
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CacheTime = "600"
SuspendResume = "~GPRS"

I've had the phone for over a week now and to call the battery life good would be an overstatement. It is however adequate. I talk on average 1-2 hours (3G only), use poll mail (30 minute check intervals), use the browser and GPS for perhaps an average 20-30 minutes per day. At the end of the day I usually have 50-60% of the battery left. When left in standby with just the email checking, it consumes little.
Only once did I get excessive battery usage and it's an incident I can't explain. I left it overnight in standby with no programs running and the battery level dropped from full charge to 50% in the morning. It hasn't happened since.
In fact, while the battery life certainly has been inferior to my previous phone (Nokia 6210) it's much better than on my last WM phone (Mio A701). After having read reviews and user opinions I expected it to be worse. It's not good, but it is hardly disastrous.