If anyone can help, I just need to know one thing before I get one of these.
How long does the battery last with direct mail on all the time using a 3G connection.
My Touch keeps it going for 2 days (at a push) on GPRS.
I dont think it can last that long.
I took off from the power source at 9.00 saturday morning and used couple of times for 3G internet browsing, trying configurations, browsing again. And was turned off during saturday evening.
When I back at home, Sunday 19:00, it was 9% left.
Btw, I dont use push mail and not always connected to 3G.
If you dont have GPS/constant GPRS connections active, then I'm fairly sure the life will be respectable once the battery is conditioned.
Currently, under heavy use mine lasts from 9am to about 11pm. The battery has only had three days of charging though, and wont be optimal just yet.
I think thats where the problem is going to be, if direct push keeps the data connection going all the time its going to last about 3 hours, maybe more with the screen off.
Anyone doing this on a daily basis? Its a shame 3G uses so much power, as I said GPRS/direct push can go almost 2 days on my Touch/Elf.
Might have to give this a miss then, which is a shame.
mattpark,
Interesting ... How to make it optimal then?
By fully charging it several times?
Or by connecting it to a power source all the time?
Thanks
gogol said:
mattpark,
Interesting ... How to make it optimal then?
By fully charging it several times?
Or by connecting it to a power source all the time?
Thanks
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Make sure you always charge the battery completely full (ie till the light comes on green) the first 5 to 10 times...
FULL means charging it double the time it takes for the light to become green. Green light means 90% (although indicators show 100%), and the last 10% takes the double the time to 'squeeze' in there
A battery has to 'set'.... So be sure you to follow this guide
Mt 8525 would last *most* of the day with direct push.
If I spoke on the phone more than a couple hours the batter would be dead or at least turning its self off by 5pm.
I'm wondering if the 8925 will be the same?
I purchased an extended battery which lets me use the phone all day.. but for a 3600 batter that's huge and requires a custom back it only lasts 2 days at best so far. I've been testing 2 weeks.
I may not get an extended battery because this huge backing is anoying and ruins the look of the phone. I love how the kaiser looks and would hate to ruin that. I would get an extended if it fit into the case itself.
Bottom line though I think an extended battery of some sort of absolutely required if you use push mail.. the only question is how long it will last.
Oh balls, Ive just bought one - So thats nokia e65, tytn1, htcs710, htc touch and tytn2 all inside 5 months!!
If you're concerned w/push email and less with web surfing, you can change the band the phone uses to plain GSM (EDGE) and that would allow you to use it for days at a time.
Using 3G/HSDPA, mine lasts from around 7AM to about 3PM with push constantly running and at least 2 hours of web surfing and about 1/2 hour of phone usage.
Hope that helps.
is it possible to disable 3g under configuration settings?, It is not really needed most of the time!
Disabling 3G
Go to Phone, settings, select band, i think choose GSM only, that should do it. There are some apps too that can do this for you on the TYTN.
your battery will go from 8-12 hrs to 24+, and thats w/ push email, i really couldn't care if a 16k email comes in 6 seconds or 2???
do you?
Battery life so far has been okay (only been using for about 2 days). I have direct PUSH activated but I am only using edge. I take a couple of calls per day + 10 min internet browsing. Battery is about 10-15% at 10 pm at night. My day starts around 9 am.
PS- just a reminder to uncheck the "receive incoming beams" in Settings menu if you don't use that function to save some battery life.
drunkm3nky said:
PS- just a reminder to uncheck the "receive incoming beams" in Settings menu if you don't use that function to save some battery life.
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There's no infrared support on this device, so I'm not sure if that option does anything. Strange that they kept the .cpl though (had assumed it was accidentally left in the as-yet-unfinished AT&T roms).
M
If you don't want your data connection open all the time, try installing GBSoft's GPRS & Audio Tweak program. Get it here: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
You can set it to turn off your GPRS connection every x minutes.
M
rolandrat said:
If anyone can help, I just need to know one thing before I get one of these.
How long does the battery last with direct mail on all the time using a 3G connection.
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For the first week I was playing with the phone a lot, so battery was draining quickly. But last two days I've got easier, so after ~25 hours since disconnecting charger, I still have 57% battery left.
Generally, I think battery life would be more or less like Hermes' - ~2 days with 3G, and ~3 days with 2G-only.
eva_d said:
For the first week I was playing with the phone a lot, so battery was draining quickly. But last two days I've got easier, so after ~25 hours since disconnecting charger, I still have 57% battery left.
Generally, I think battery life would be more or less like Hermes' - ~2 days with 3G, and ~3 days with 2G-only.
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Do you have push email enabled all the time?
mlekas said:
There's no infrared support on this device, so I'm not sure if that option does anything. Strange that they kept the .cpl though (had assumed it was accidentally left in the as-yet-unfinished AT&T roms).
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It also applies on BT incoming transfers I think
ID64 said:
It also applies on BT incoming transfers I think
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Yes, it does.
pepeto2001 said:
Do you have push email enabled all the time?
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No, I don't use push e-mail. I've set up automatic e-mail checking every 15 minutes once, tough - but I got rid of it for now, as data connection stays open after checking email, which is not quite nice, regarding battery life...
Can I charge the battery using my old HTC Magician charger?
It has the same input and output (at least from what I read).
The reason that I want to use the HTC Magician charger because I live in NL (charger has 2 legs) and I bought the Kaiser from UK (charger has 3 legs).
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Hi,
I'm thinking of changing from the M3100 to the Kaiser.
Is the battery life any better as my phone with push email goes flat so quick.
Cheers.
What do you consider "quick"?
My TyTN II is running 24/7 with a constant 3G-connection, 5 minute interval for POP3-mail and Exchange-pushmail. I also call about 45 minutes/day and send out a few SMS.
Based on my experiences so far, my battery should last about 2 days before going to backup-battery. And I think that's decent enough for the usage I demand from this device (it also helps to have 4 chargers laying around in various places).
Getting ~ 18 hours with ActiveSync email push "As items arrive", 3G / HSDPA, around ~ 3 - 5MB data download per day, ~ 30 mins calls, light GPS usage. Not pretty but given the large featureset and speed of the device (e.g. data download) one has to make compromises. A larger battery design would have been nice but a charger at home and in the office and a spare battery when at neither one do the trick as well.
davidlucas said:
I'm thinking of changing from the M3100 to the Kaiser.
Is the battery life any better as my phone with push email goes flat so quick.
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In my case - rather light usage - it's roughly the same as with my previous Hermes, which means ~2 days when Auto (2/3G) mode, and ~3 days when on 2G-only mode.
Not so good on mine
I am very unhappy with mine, particularly compared with my Trinity (same usage pattern, but I get probably twice less battery).
- Listening to music on the speaker for 15-20 mins drops the battery from 100% to less than 90% (after a full night charge).
- Using GPS for 60 mins drops the battery by a 20-30%. These are not scientific measurements, but I am almost reluctant to use the device because of this.
It would seem, compared to other people’s comments, that my battery or device has a problem, so it might not be a good indicator.
Compared to Trinity (wm6), screen, performance, Bluetooth (no problems with SE DS 970) is a big improvement. Weight (190g) and size is not. Trinity felt very robust, particularly due to absence of keyboard.
Compared to Hermes, everything is much better.
Is the trinity 3G? If not, it's not a fair comparison.
Thanks for those answers.
Well I'm getting about 12 hours from my 3100 so it seems the Kasier is pretty good.
Battery 95% when started - GPS for 2+ hours + a few phone calls - battery 44%. Which I actually consider ok - GPS uses a lot of juice at the best of times. For long trips I will just use my external GPS receiver.
Most of the time you use GPS when you are in a car. Get a charger for in the car.
I have one at home, work and in the car. Works just great! Its a price to pay to be continuously online on a mobile phone, a price I am willing to pay. Just need to get used to charging even if battery isnt low.
I probably will buy a 2nd accu pack later.
If there's a Kaiser cradle that will be sooooo cool.
Battery is highly sufficient for myself.
Battery not too great for my usage patterns. 3G push all day and night, beam autoreceive off, bluetooth WIFI off. Lasts about 24 hours.
Just out of curiosity, what brightness/auto-dim/auto-off settings do you guys use?
i take my phone off the charger at 7am have push mail running and have band set to gsm. im down to 60% by 4pm with light use(30 min talk+15 min internet)
heavy use(1 hr talk + 30 minutes internet im down to 40%. subtract an extra 35-40% if i listen to internet music through BT for an hour while at the gym. when i use gps in the car i have the charger hooked up so no drain. i only use 3g when listening to internet radio watchin slingbox or surfing large pages. I dont think i could use this as a work phone without constantly chargin. at work im on the phone at least 3hrs a day.
Yep, Trinity is similar to TyTn I except no keyboard, but with GPS.
jamijam said:
Is the trinity 3G? If not, it's not a fair comparison.
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For long calls, I rather use a normal phone than a cell phone. Because at work I am using a laptop, I got used to charge it when I am using my laptop.
What helps is change the brightness settings.
Hi. I am trying to adapt free and commercial version of bandswitch and commmgrpro to work with kaiser to be able to switch between 2G and 3G with one click and a few seconds so save batterty. Because a unknown reason the system that works in Universal, Athena and Tynt doesnt work correctly with Kaiser and Soft Reset is required. I will keep you reported.
Dani
danielherrero said:
Hi. I am trying to adapt free and commercial version of bandswitch and commmgrpro to work with kaiser to be able to switch between 2G and 3G with one click and a few seconds so save batterty. Because a unknown reason the system that works in Universal, Athena and Tynt doesnt work correctly with Kaiser and Soft Reset is required. I will keep you reported.
Dani
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it's very fast if you use phone configuration... you set to GSM or AUTO, and in a few seconds you have 3G o GPRS connection..
laapsaap said:
For long calls, I rather use a normal phone than a cell phone. Because at work I am using a laptop, I got used to charge it when I am using my laptop.
What helps is change the brightness settings.
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The power it requires to lit the Screen, the less light the less power needed. Thus making the battery last (a bit) longer
pepeto2001 said:
it's very fast if you use phone configuration... you set to GSM or AUTO, and in a few seconds you have 3G o GPRS connection..
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Hi pepeto.
Yep, you are right, but you ve to go to phone/menu/options/band.....And this system doesnt allow to go to 3g, for example, for 10 minutes and then automatically switch back to 2G if you forgot to do it...
Its easier to do one click in today plugin....At least in my case because I ve to switch many times per day.....
Dani
Hi,
I just bought my Kaiser 4 days ago.
I am using the bluetooth adn an SDHC card.
My problem is, following: the batter goes every day empty! I unplugged from the charger 4hours (I was using the phone for one our), and the batter is on 34%.
Do you have the same problem or my batter is wrong?
tnx:
Adrián
Wow, really fast battery drain.
No, I dont have that fast drain.
Do you use data connection all the time? Wi-fi? 3G?
Backlight? Power off when device is not used ...
Worth to check.
I switched off the online data connection and the 3G..
I jut pulled off the SDHC card for testing the battery...
I hope it will help..
How often do you charge the battery, and how long do you use the phone per day?
It depends ... between 1 or 2 days ... and I usually charge when it is at 30% - 50%, during evening.
And I use 3G for browsing the internet for now and then randomly also MSN/Yahoo chat.
I suggest to hard-reset, and run your phone without any app installed.
Then see the battery drain.
big source of battery drain for me was the WiFi and the push email.
I have also noticed the battery drains pretty damn fast. Much faster than my wizard it would seem. I am slowly disabling things to see if I can find the source. Otherwise I am calling HTC and getting a new battery.
Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Nope - no bluetooth - no push email. Its very wierd.
sorry i was referring to the OP
I am using the Spb GPRS Monitor.... Does it need extra battery power?
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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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I think that is not correct. Bluetooth hardly has any influence on the battery drain.
You can leave it on for ever.
But do a test yourselve.
1. Load the battery 100 %
2. Set bluetooth on or of and put your baby to sleep for 8 hours.
3. Check the battery situation in the morning, the first time you start using it. You should, in 8 hours, not have lost more that 4 till 5%.
That is with GPRS and no 3G or HSDPA. I did not test that, but...
You will see that a night with, or without, makes hardly any diiference.
But maybe I am wrong.
My personal experience is that using GPRS ( Phone=GSM only) is the most efficient. Especially if you have Messenger on the whole time.
Huib
Hi
When Bluetooth is on the device will not go into standby even if the screen appears dark as Bluetooth needs the OS to be alive to work, so if you have programs loaded that are using CPU cycles the battery will drain quickly as these programs will run continually.
Regards
Phil
The only thing that I am saying is that my phone, in 8 hours, with bluetooth on, uses max 4% of battery drain. With blutooth off I see no difference.
The phone is in sleeping mode, so people can call me. What else can I say?
So I cannot say that Bluetooth drains my battery faster. At least not visible to me.
I tested did a long time ago with several systems. the last one, before my Tytn II came was on blootooth its whole life. And now again I see the same at my little kaiser.
Huib
P.s. and then this.
I see as standbye the situation, that I only can switch it back on with sliding the keyboard or the power switch. If other keys do not react, is in't this standbye? The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
herpi said:
The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
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How rude!
Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Absolutely.
Huib
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
There is no I/R in Kaiser, and BT standby seems to draw very little. I leave mine all the time, I loose about 5% battery overnight. WiFi is a completely different story, it's a power PIG.
austinsnyc said:
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
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I still disagree.
When bluetooth is just ON and not connected to any device it hardly consums power. (IMHO)
Do a simple test and let it on for a night sleep with and without bluetooth.
When connected to a headset or whatever it of course consumes.
Pls tell me the difference.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305518&highlight=battery
Huib
I have had my TyTN II since Tuesday the 25th - so only 2 days now. I pulled the phone out of the charger at 6:50am this morning. I have WiFi turned OFF (only use at night when I am surfing while watching TV). I have BlueTooth off. I do have BB Connect installed and running with 1 BES account and 3 BIS accounts. I was on the phone for maybe 5 total minutes so far this morning - and I surfed for like 10 minutes via EDGE on the way to work. I do have SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 installed, but from what I read it doesn't effect battery life. I have the unit set to shut the screen off after 2 minutes....and my LCD brightness is at like 70% or so.
With all this - as of 10:35am this morning - I am already down to 75% battery. At this rate, the phone will be dead before 5pm....! Not even a full day.
Man - I hope this gets better because I can't run my life with phone plugged in half the day just so it will last me!
Hi all,
just after I had my new Kaiser month agao I was collecting all kind of
software to fit my needs. And short after that I realized - my Kaiser sucks
the battery within hours
A battery tool that shows the temperature and the current showed me:
250 to 350 mA all the time. For a 1300mA/h battery this means 4 to 5 hours
or less.
The other day I removed all installed goodies - and surprise! Sometimes the
current drain was down to 10mA.
To make the story short: remove all timer software.They eat up your battery!
I had installed two of them! One to alert if park-tickets are expired and one
timer to remind me for meetings! Those little bastards apparently run in tight
loops, check the time constantly and use up the most power.
Power consumption is now low as 15mA in idle times.
good luck with your Kaiser / Tilt
wkm1
Hi!
so this would also apply to alarms set in Outlook for meetings? My meetings are often same time, same people every week, so better to not use alarms for those....
I think my Kaiser needs a charge every 36 hours......
Ofiaich
ofiaich said:
Hi!
so this would also apply to alarms set in Outlook for meetings? My meetings are often same time, same people every week, so better to not use alarms for those....
I think my Kaiser needs a charge every 36 hours......
Ofiaich
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No, I think you'll find he's only referring to third party apps not Windows Mobile functions themselves.
He has a good point. people in other threads have found many fancy Today screen apps (always running) that show memory usage, comms, and battery status are polling the equipment on a regular basis also using lots of battery power.
Thanks Farsquidge!
I will leave my Outlook as it is then !
I think my screen is quite simple as compared with some in the post your today screen thread !
Ofiaich
Possibly stating the obvious here but i never knew so here we go...
Change the settings so the data connection is not always on, and only connects when looking for email, web browsing etc.
Its doubled my battery life.
What tool did you use? I'd like to optimize my apps too.
wkm1 said:
Hi all,
just after I had my new Kaiser month agao I was collecting all kind of
software to fit my needs. And short after that I realized - my Kaiser sucks
the battery within hours
A battery tool that shows the temperature and the current showed me:
250 to 350 mA all the time. For a 1300mA/h battery this means 4 to 5 hours
or less.
The other day I removed all installed goodies - and surprise! Sometimes the
current drain was down to 10mA.
To make the story short: remove all timer software.They eat up your battery!
I had installed two of them! One to alert if park-tickets are expired and one
timer to remind me for meetings! Those little bastards apparently run in tight
loops, check the time constantly and use up the most power.
Power consumption is now low as 15mA in idle times.
good luck with your Kaiser / Tilt
wkm1
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[email protected] said:
What tool did you use? I'd like to optimize my apps too.
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And what battery life are people expecting. I have SPB's GPRS monitor installed and it is claiming I will get a little under 6 hours (which compares to 8 on my Hermes).
Schooleydoo said:
Possibly stating the obvious here but i never knew so here we go...
Change the settings so the data connection is not always on, and only connects when looking for email, web browsing etc.
Its doubled my battery life.
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I second this. I moved from direct push to polling every 10 minutes, and set the connection to drop after 30 seconds (annoying for browsing the web) and the phone loses less than 2% battery overnight.
Surur
how do you modify the internet connection to disconnect after a certain period of inactivity? i can't seem to figure it out.....
dmb129 said:
how do you modify the internet connection to disconnect after a certain period of inactivity? i can't seem to figure it out.....
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Use KaiserTweak. It's in a sticky.
do you have any idea where i could find the individual .cab for this function? rather than using KaiserTweak?
hi,
i tryed to "i guess disable the wifi hardware", and all animations in order to have a greater battery life (with kaiser tweak) , but my phone needs to be charged for 6 to 6 hours...
this phone has a battery problem, for sure, i hope someday, HTC solves this problem....
sorry about the english....
I had an alarm clock to ring every Saturday morning, on for the whole week...I took it off today, following this thread. It appears to have made a huge positive difference in the length of the battery! Many thanks for a good tip.
michalopoulosgk said:
I had an alarm clock to ring every Saturday morning, on for the whole week...I took it off today, following this thread. It appears to have made a huge positive difference in the length of the battery! Many thanks for a good tip.
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What alarm application did you use? I'll test it with mine the following days and let you know the result.
I had my office outlook active sync basically "always on". I just switched it to every 10 min during peak and every 30 min off peak. We'll see how much better that goes.
I've definitely noticed that keeping the wifi turned off until necessary helps a lot. I'm using Tmobile here in the US, so no 3G yet. I've been told that 3G sucks battery as well.
3G consumes more power. Use GSM network only.
start -> settings -> Phone -> Band Tab -> Select network type as GSM
wkm1 said:
Hi all,
just after I had my new Kaiser month agao I was collecting all kind of
software to fit my needs. And short after that I realized - my Kaiser sucks
the battery within hours
A battery tool that shows the temperature and the current showed me:
250 to 350 mA all the time. For a 1300mA/h battery this means 4 to 5 hours
or less.
wkm1
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Please let me know what battery tool...... want to check mu Tytn II too.... battery only lasts for HOURS!!!!
Many thanks,
Optimistisch_nl said:
Please let me know what battery tool...... want to check mu Tytn II too.... battery only lasts for HOURS!!!!
Many thanks,
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FYI, I had to return my Tytn2 yesterday. It lost 100% battery power within 4-5 hours. It was warm to the touch and when charging would become very hot. I put Batterystatus on and it read a draw of 300-400mA when idle. This was also after a Hard reset to check that nothing else I had added to the unit was causing it.
My replacement draws between 20-80mA when idle and 220-250mA when under load i.e. using Wi-Fi, browsing web etc. Battery went from 54% when I got it (1pm) to 26% by the time I went to bed at midnight last night
It sounds like you have a similar problem?
I've set 2 alarm applications to run last night: the alarm in Mortplayer and Pocket Wakeup.
I charged the battery to 100% before I went to sleep. In the morning, after about 6 hours of sleep, my battery meter showed 94%.
This gives an easy calculation of about 1% per hour (with those 2 alarms active).
I don't know if it makes a difference to uninstall the applications or just not using them in terms of battery usage. Anyone an idea?
smads said:
FYI, I had to return my Tytn2 yesterday. It lost 100% battery power within 4-5 hours. It was warm to the touch and when charging would become very hot. I put Batterystatus on and it read a draw of 300-400mA when idle. This was also after a Hard reset to check that nothing else I had added to the unit was causing it.
My replacement draws between 20-80mA when idle and 220-250mA when under load i.e. using Wi-Fi, browsing web etc. Battery went from 54% when I got it (1pm) to 26% by the time I went to bed at midnight last night
It sounds like you have a similar problem?
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Is this 'Battery Status' part of an app??? Please let us know as this itself can draw power if it is constantly polling the battery. (Heisenberg principle??)
I've been researching this phone and I really like it so far, but I have a question about the battery.
I've read about the battery lasting something like 9 hours or so.. now my question is that 9 hours while constantly in use?
For example if I leave my house at 3:00 PM with a full charge hang out with my friends, end up at a bar at night, and I maybe talk for 20 minutes, send 5 txt messages and barely mess with the phone, will the phone dying around Midnight?
With that type of light usage it can last a day or even two deopending on how you config. & the radio you use.
The +or- 6-8 hours is with wifi, BT, 3g data usage, gps, etc...
I make it about half the day(5-6 hours), but I've got AgileMobile running all day using 3G connection so I'm assuming I'm running normally. This is greatly improved by switching off 3G(adds another 2-3 hours). I put maybe 15-30 minutes of calls on my phone a day, it's mostly a mobile web browser and instant messenger.
To get through a full day for me I charge the phone in my jeep while driving to / from work, and most days I eat lunch out so I charge it then as well.
Thanks for the replies. I will probably have all data connections turned off, and won't run GPS on days like that.
I really dig this phone, I just got a little worried about the chance that I won't go home after some heavy drinking and won't have a phone to use in the morning...
Also, I just read on a website review from Laptopmag.com that said "We left a fully charged Tilt on over a long weekend, and when we returned, the unit still had three out of four bars of battery life"... What do you think?
Well I think if you upgrade to wm6.1, you should gt alot better battery life.
I was sick (in bed most of the day) yesterday so I took my phone off charge at about 7am in the morning.
I sent some messages, surfed the internet with hsdpa for about 3 hours (and this is in a bad signal area, which means more battery consumption)
then did some wifi (20mins)
and a bluetooth recieve or two.
I just checked the battery level this morning (8am) and I still had 57% left. I was abit surprised because I thought it will have drained by now like it did with wm6. The point is wm6.1 has a lot better battery life. So for maxumum battery life you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents
Battery life...
Hi I have had the kaiser for not long really... there's a neat program that tells you what is the drain, of the battery...
well if you are not touching it and not doing anything it drains about 6-10ma, so based on that yes, it can last for a looooooooong time, now when you call it goes to 200-400ma, so yes it drains more battery there. ( as you would think it would )
then again you can have the backlight to low, to use less battery, also, turn the screen off when not using it, and change the radio an a lot of hacks.
based on my experience using EDGE, the GPS, the screen, playing a game, sending some mms, and talking, it can really kill your battery in no time.
but you can also well get a car charger ( be carefull with those ) or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
I have seen people talking about a 3000mah battery so that could really drive the phone for a loooooooong time, better think about other issues, like how sucky the camera is... ( maybe with the video drivers we are wating for this will get fixed ), also well, sometimes the performance is not that good, ( also video drivers I think ), besides that, and if you don't mind like I do, to have to wait for a few seconds to get things going on, the phone is a real jewel, if you live life in the fast lane, well maybe that second to open the keyboard will kill you
TC !
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or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
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which one do u recommend? also where can u find this battery?
thanks
^^
Seidio 1650 battery and the Mugen 1500 batteries seem to be good oem size batteries from I have read. THere is a thread on the Kaiser Accessories board about batteries.......
I had a similar experience with excessive current consumption in standby, likely caused by the GPS though it is off (see Post "TyTN II / Kaiser issue: GPS & battery drain").
Perhaps you should install "BatteryStatus". Make yourself familiar with the battery current display, and try to figure out how much power your device draws.
Another nice test is, switch all units off (phone, WLAN, Bluetooth, GPS, really everything). Make sure no program is running (TaskManager). Leave the fully charged phone alone for 5 hours or so. Recheck the battery capacity whether it dropped more than very few percent. If you do not need GPS frequently, you may simply try a soft reset. If you have interesting results, please be so kind and add them to the abovementioned thread, too.
BusterTyTN
This took some hunting down so have documented here in case others are not already aware. The Diamond defaults to leaving 3G/GPRS data connections turned on all the time, once it has connected for the first time since turning the phone on. My battery life was terrible until I changed this to disconnect after 60 seconds - the battery life is now great.
GPRS/3G Auto-Disconnect
Just change 2 registry entries in the following part of the registry (download Resco Explorer if you need a registry editor):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
1) Change the DWORD "CacheTime" to the number of seconds the connection should remain active (I use 60 seconds)
2) Change the String "SuspendResume" from "~GPRS" to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off" (without the quotes).
That's it. This solved all of my battery life issues.
I'll give it a try...thanks for the heads-up
or use diamond tweaks app
Not much good if you use push email though...
unwired4 said:
Not much good if you use push email though...
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how to resolve the battery issue with diamond tweaks?
Useless...
mrac41 said:
This took some hunting down so have documented here in case others are not already aware. The Diamond defaults to leaving 3G/GPRS data connections turned on all the time, once it has connected for the first time since turning the phone on. My battery life was terrible until I changed this to disconnect after 60 seconds - the battery life is now great.
GPRS/3G Auto-Disconnect
Just change 2 registry entries in the following part of the registry (download Resco Explorer if you need a registry editor):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
1) Change the DWORD "CacheTime" to the number of seconds the connection should remain active (I use 60 seconds)
2) Change the String "SuspendResume" from "~GPRS" to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off" (without the quotes).
That's it. This solved all of my battery life issues.
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Such a useless suggestion...the GPRS connection doesn't have almost any impact on the battery life if the connection is open or not.
Only if data is trasferring it makes a substantial difference, so if you are working with push mail, whatever parameters you change it is useless. Otherwise, if you browse the web like crazy, again - useless.
The battery cunsumption of this device is ****, period. they probably weren't able to stabilize the chipsed properly, since it gets hot every time you activate the display, like gaming or other features unrelated necessarilly with the Radio.
If you are using Push mail, it indeed is a useless suggestion. However, if I'm checking my train schedule in the morning, and don't do anything else except possibly cal with it, is IS a useful suggestion. Not having the connection established IS more battery efficient than not having it on. It's like making an argument that turning the phone or wifi off would NOT save battery life. Yeah, right. By the way, my device does not get hot at all, except when charging.
mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.
Disconnecting your dataconnection does indeed dramatically improve battery life.
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By the way, my device does not get hot at all, except when charging.
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You probably don't use GPS. After 10/20 minutes of GPS with these temperatures outside it does get hot.
jobear said:
mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
CacheTime = "0"
SuspendResume = "~GPRS"
They talk about GPRS not GPS if I am wrong.
GPRS does not effect much of the battery.
GPS affects alot of the battery when used.
Grtzzz
I don't see how having GPRS or push email connected all the time and not effecting the battery life. Once you have the connection open the phone/server is constantly sending/receiving packets of data back and forth(syncing) , although minimal if no email is going or coming. Yes it effects battery life big time because its using radio and cpu power. On the other hand GPS i agree it kills the battery life. period.
Thats what I mean normaly the GPRS is sleeping until you decide to go on the internet or look after the weather.
I agree when you use pushmail or other aplications which force the GPRS continuasly to activate its going to cost a lot of battery power.
But when you use it normal to look after the weather sometimes or internet sometimes you can leave it on. It will not drain your battery for life.
Grtzzz
Have to agree with daraj.
The Diamond battery gives me about 2 days of usage between recharges (I don't talk much).
If the GPRS is on (even if I'm doing nothing with the internet connection), on the other hand, the battery last barely 0.5 days.
Have to agree with daraj.
The Diamond battery gives me about 2 days of usage between recharges (I don't talk much).
If the GPRS is on, on the other hand (even if I'm doing nothing with the internet connection), the battery last barely 0.5 days.
I have GPRS on all day long, talk in the phone a couple of times a day, listen to FM radio for maybe 20mins/day and use push mail where i get maybe 20-40mail a day.
I have 1½-2 day on a fully charged battery with my Diamond. I dont find that too bad - actually a lot like my old HTC Trinity.
Battery life too bad
I had Diamond for a week. Battery life is just crap to a stage I am afraid to use it. Initially I thought that I was playing around with it thats why the battery is draining. But today I was doing a 13 hour shift I hardly used the phone except making 3 calls lasting couple of minutes each. Battery was full in the morning - charged at night. By the end of the shift the battery was down to 10-20 percent!! I was so shocked to see this. Without even using the phone, the battery just drains, I dont know why. So, disappointed with it now
kimusan said:
I have GPRS on all day long, talk in the phone a couple of times a day, listen to FM radio for maybe 20mins/day and use push mail where i get maybe 20-40mail a day.
I have 1½-2 day on a fully charged battery with my Diamond. I dont find that too bad - actually a lot like my old HTC Trinity.
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eh? You serious?
God dam it this is the worst phone ive had, even my old n95 lasted longer than this.
All ive done today was a little Wlm, sent 11 txt called about 4 times only afew mins. Mind you i did test out the gps with tomtom but that was a 5 min drive down the road. Ive had to charge it 3 dam times today.
I cant wait for my genuine extend battery to turn up.
jobear said:
mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.
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CacheTime = "600"
SuspendResume = "~GPRS"
I've had the phone for over a week now and to call the battery life good would be an overstatement. It is however adequate. I talk on average 1-2 hours (3G only), use poll mail (30 minute check intervals), use the browser and GPS for perhaps an average 20-30 minutes per day. At the end of the day I usually have 50-60% of the battery left. When left in standby with just the email checking, it consumes little.
Only once did I get excessive battery usage and it's an incident I can't explain. I left it overnight in standby with no programs running and the battery level dropped from full charge to 50% in the morning. It hasn't happened since.
In fact, while the battery life certainly has been inferior to my previous phone (Nokia 6210) it's much better than on my last WM phone (Mio A701). After having read reviews and user opinions I expected it to be worse. It's not good, but it is hardly disastrous.