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Orange upgrades to TYTN II ..what tariff deals are you getting?

Am not sure if this is the right area for this post but here goes:
Orderd my TYTN II today on my old tariff of £20.00 a month which includes 200 text, 10 photo messages + 5mb data, 1000 minutes off peak.. phone was free and all on a 12 month contract. my total cost for the whole year will be £240. when the large data bundles come out i may go for it but for now i tend to use my m3100 throgh the wi-fi at home. i only tend to download my hotmail/gmail messages or msn when on the move ie twice a week if no wifi is avail. what i am worried about is that it would have been nice to have the Anytime tariff.
I might still get a sim only monthly tariff off T-mobile.

Does anyone know what this will be called on Orange. Are they going the same way as they did with the touch?

its called the Orange TYTN II

Deleted... was talking bollocks!

WOOHOO! Finally got to talk to someone in Retentions who has a brain.
Got the TYTN II for free but had to take an 18mth contract.
Same deal as I was on - £35 (I think) for 500 any time, any network mins, 500 texts.
Probably not the best deal, but beggars cannae be choosers!
F.

good one enjoy.....

Racoon 35
Hi Guys, just got my Kaiser / Tytn 2 on Orange ...
Here's the deal - (I think it's good for the rest of October)
Racoon 35 - £35/month on 18 month contract - this gives 700 across any network minutes, plus 100 text (not a big text guy) .. plus unlimited landline numbers starting 01 or 02.
On the £35 contract, the tytn2 was £89.99 but the package provided cashback on an old phone ... I got £150 c/b on an old nail of a Nokia 3110 ... cashback works on airtime credit so I've bought the phone with four months free use.
They are also providing unlimited data access at evenings and weekends for two months.
Negatives .. No sexy iPhone style HTC black theme .. watch out for the data after two months free use .. the small print automatically puts you on a £5 a month data tariff if you don't opt out (the same with the traffic TV service too).
PS, Just installed Tomtom 6 and the internal GPS works better than my old bluetooth did on my XDA mini.
Wish list ... make the display look like the iPhone

Well, after getting Orange to put £100 credit on my account to upgrade to a free TYTN II on a 12 month contract, I thought I'd phone up their customer services and have a small whinge about their appallingly bad data bundles. Currently I pay £4 for a measly 4mb on an old orange world bundle. Their best offer was £8 for a capped 30mb per month. Eventually, having been fobbed off with a stock answer I was put through to a "supervisor" who agreed, when I mentioned Vodafones £7.50 for 120mb deal, that the Orange one was, perhaps, lacking!
I explained that with modern phones such as the TYTN II having the potential for being far more data intensive (google maps, youtube, skype, bbc streaming etc) that it was about time Orange offered a fair price for a decent or even uncapped data limit.
Apparently, this may happen sooner rather than later, as I was told that new tariffs were being rolled out in March ('08) and that after many complaints data tariffs were also being revamped. I do hope that this does indeed transpire. If anyone has any further info please post...

Hmm. Wonder how much these new data bundles will cost?
Can't see them allowing you to move from an £8/month 30Mb bundle to a cheaper with more data one? or maybe they will surprise us...for once.

Spoke to a nice woman at Orange last month, I told here that I am paying £8 for 30mb and said I wanted to change my data bundle to the 250mb one. She checked and said it was only for business customers as I was on an animal plan, I lied and said a friend rang up a while ago and said he was on an animal plan and they put him on the 250mb package ok , she went and checked with her supervisor and she said that I could go on the 250mb package on my current animal plan
So everyone on the 30mb Orange data bundle, I would phone Orange now and request the much bigger package for less money, am so happy now
Orange World for Business 4 £2.50 4MB £0.80
Orange World for Business 10 £5.00 10MB £0.80
Orange World for Business 250 £6.38 250MB £0.80
Orange World for Business 1024 £17.02 1024MB £0.80
Orange World for Business 2048 £21.28 2048MB £0.80
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Radeon123 said:
Spoke to a nice woman at Orange last month, I told here that I am paying £8 for 30mb and said I wanted to change my data bundle to the 250mb one. She checked and said it was only for business customers as I was on an animal plan, I lied and said a friend rang up a while ago and said he was on an animal plan and they put him on the 250mb package ok , she went and checked with her supervisor and she said that I could go on the 250mb package on my current animal plan
So everyone on the 30mb Orange data bundle, I would phone Orange now and request the much bigger package for less money, am so happy now
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This has made my day, i'm going to ring them tomorrow and say the same thing, hopefully they will bump me up.
They told me on the phone the next level up from £8 - 30mb was £35 - 80mb, I mean what the hell? Isn't bandwidth supposed to get cheaper the more you buy?
They are so far behind the competition with their data charges it's beyond a joke. Unfortunately for me I live rurally and have no choice but to use Orange as it's the only carrier with a decent signal out here.

Mr Radeon123 was not wrong. Just got myself 250mb for £6.38 per month (which is minus the VAT) so £8.00 or thereabouts is the charge per month. Thanks for the info matey!!!

If they don't bump you up just keep phoning, someone will eventually put you on the business data tariff.
I think the business tariffs should be the normal data tariffs as the current ones are redicolous
Here is my 250mb data bundle screenshot as proof
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/Radeon/NewPicture-1.jpg

I'd be shipping off to T-Mobile to be honest.
Shame 3 dont do the handset, there network deals have become good and their data packages are defo better.

Got my better half (not so techie) on a 2mb per day data bundle with Orange and that is FREE for ever. They do charge £0.50 per 50kb if you go over (£10 per mb) so spb gprs monitor is pretty useful.
Having just got the 250mb for £8.00 business bundle put on my personal account, I enquired again about the possibility of updated data bundles coming out in March...
STOP PRESS!! The lady I spoke to said that on 1/3/08 £8.00 will buy UNLIMITED DATA (NOT capped at 30mb or anything else)
Hope this information proves to be correct and is of use to those of you in the UK...

I've also just upgraded to the £8 data bundle, the guy I spoke to said the fair usage policy kicks in if you go over 1Gb on a regular basis, so I think thats as close to unlimited as you can get for mobile use, so long as your not using it as a modem too much.
To top it off as I'm getting my 8Mb broadband connection free with my contract it's a relatively cheap option for data.

Vodafone seems to be the way to go...
My Tytn II is about 2-3 months old, I got in on Vodafone for free on an 18 month contract. Originally I had to pay £40 per month for 750 mins & unlimited texts. I haggled with them and brought them down to £25 for the same! WOO!

Well i was gonna leave orange and got this deal in the end , phone free , £35 18 month contract giving 500mins cross network and unlimited text messages , 100 additional loyalty bonus minutes , £5 monthly discount loyalty bonus and the basic data package

Be careful with the data package.
I was offered the unlimited data access at evenings and weekends for two months.
I had data charges for about £4.00 for each of those two months.
When I queried this I was told I had gone to websites outside the Orange World portal !
I no longer use Orange for data.
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Andrew

Pretty good deal, I think
I have two phone contracts with orange 35 pound/month each for 500 mins and 500 text. Near the end of contract. Over the last month, I've phoned disconnections 5 times getting a better offer each time. Tonight I went with this:
Phone 1) SE K810i 600mins & unlimited text 15pound/month
Phone 2) TyTn 11 700 mins & 100 text ... wait for it 20 pounds/month.
Both phones free. Also added 250MB data to the TyTn11 for extra 7.50/month.
I'm pretty chuffed. Phones arrive Thursday. Now on to ebay for 8GB microSD card!
Andy

Amazing Orange Deal

Dolphin 35, an 18 month contract, £35 a month for 18 months with the option of 5 months free. That brings the total cost to £455, only £55 more than the Sim free cost of the phone and you get unlimited web browsing and unlimited texts and 600 minutes.
Orange may have a poor reputation, but that deal is unbelievably good.
See here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-htc-touch-diamond.html#MobilePhoneTariffs
Edit: My mistake, there's no unlimited data with that deal. It looks like you have to buy through orange for unlimited data which comes to a total of £540, £90 quid more. Still not bad though.

The standard warning applies with the above offers and all like it. You are likely to not get that money due to obscure overcomplicated rules on redeeming the cashback, normally involving goats, virgins, and lunar eclipses.
It's been scientifically proven that people too evil to be a seal-clubber or second-hand car salesman go on to run discount phone websites.
The original deal direct from Orange is still good though. In fact, it's the one I signed up for earlier.

Or you could get all that and a free ipod or projector or whatever you want, done it with my last phone and an xbox 360 and it all worked fine.

joey7415963 said:
Or you could get all that and a free ipod or projector or whatever you want, done it with my last phone and an xbox 360 and it all worked fine.
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You pay more though, the original deal i quote was £455, to get a 'free' Xbox Arcade it would cost £720. That's £265 more for a console thats worth £150 - So you're wasting £115! Hardly free ey?

i just got a upgrade
they have given me 650 cross network
unlimited landline calls
unlimited texts
"unlimited" data
18 month contract...which i don't mind.... £30
this was direct from orange....no funny middle men

Free direct from orange on £30 pm
Just bought mine on upgrade, direct from orange for £30 pm 600mins + unlimited text and web, phone was free!
I suspect you can get it for free on the £25pm but I wanted unlimited web.

ljames28 said:
Dolphin 35, an 18 month contract, £35 a month for 18 months with the option of 5 months free. That brings the total cost to £455, only £55 more than the Sim free cost of the phone and you get unlimited web browsing and unlimited texts and 600 minutes.
Orange may have a poor reputation, but that deal is unbelievably good.
See here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-htc-touch-diamond.html#MobilePhoneTariffs
Edit: My mistake, there's no unlimited data with that deal. It looks like you have to buy through orange for unlimited data which comes to a total of £540, £90 quid more. Still not bad though.
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Oranges' deals are not that good at all.
First of all 18 month contracts for any WM Device enthusist are terrible. You want to try the new forthcoming WM7 HTC devices, you will want a 12 month deal.
Secondly Orange's unlimited data isnt unlimited. Its a 500MB fair use policy (too little) that - according to their website (and there has been some confusion about this) is limited to 2 months. After 2 months, you pay for the data package.

You need to check if these 3rd party dealers are giving the unlimited mobile data. I just ordered with M2YD on a Dolphin 35 18 month contract, free handset and this DOES include the unlimited mobile browing (confirmed with M2YD and Orange CS on the phone). £35 per month with £210 back on redemption and £55 cashback with quidco. This means my total cost for the 18months will be £365

Me too
I've ordered from m2yd.
Dolphin 35 .... £210 cashback, unlimited internet and texts. £55 back from www.quidco.com
In all, over 18 months it will cost me £20.28 per month
Best deal currently available over 18 months ... I think I've searched them all!

darthbane2k said:
Oranges' deals are not that good at all.
First of all 18 month contracts for any WM Device enthusist are terrible. You want to try the new forthcoming WM7 HTC devices, you will want a 12 month deal.
Secondly Orange's unlimited data isnt unlimited. Its a 500MB fair use policy (too little) that - according to their website (and there has been some confusion about this) is limited to 2 months. After 2 months, you pay for the data package.
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The contract may be 18 months but i was simply looking at the total cost. As in, if a phone comes out in 12 months that you want, buy that also. There's nothing to stop you running two contracts concurrently. If you've seen a better deal from another network, post it, just because it's an 18 month deal doesn't make it bad.
Also, show me a network that does unlimited data that doesn't have a fair usage policy? Hell, every ISP has one, why wouldn't a phone network who has to send data over a massive infrastructure of cell towers
Btw, im not an Orange fan, im a Tmobile fan, no bias here.

I don't worry about the 18 months thing. For heavily subsidied expensive phones, it often works out that the TCO over 18 months is just a few more £ than over 12 months.
Way back when I got my Wizard with Vodafone, the 18 month contract was about £20 more than with a 12 month contract. I still got my Vario II 12 months later, but then had a spare contract phone for 6 months for £20.
As for the whole "unlimited" thing, it's not just in regards to data, they also wrap "unlimite texts" etc. in similar weasel words. I'm surprised that they're all allowed to get away with it still. It's pure false advertising, and they all do it.

ljames28 said:
The contract may be 18 months but i was simply looking at the total cost. As in, if a phone comes out in 12 months that you want, buy that also. There's nothing to stop you running two contracts concurrently. If you've seen a better deal from another network, post it, just because it's an 18 month deal doesn't make it bad.
Also, show me a network that does unlimited data that doesn't have a fair usage policy? Hell, every ISP has one, why wouldn't a phone network who has to send data over a massive infrastructure of cell towers
Btw, im not an Orange fan, im a Tmobile fan, no bias here.
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sounds like bias to me.
At least T Mobile offer 1GB fair use. 500MB is way too limited.
Also with T's web n walk plus, you get free GLOBAL T Mobile hotspot access.
Also T have a brilliant HSDPA network. How extensive is Oranges?
Also with orange - you seen that cost to non orange mobiles outside of your air time?
As for contract length.. let me put it this way..
12 months ago I bought a brand new HTC Touch.

Slightly OT, but does the Orange unlimited internet allow for using the phone as a modem? Is it unlimited internet or unlimited data?
Likewise does it allow for VOIP?
I can see how Opera will quickly eat into the data instead of pocket IE and its cut down pages
Back on topic, Orange allow a downgrade to the next lower tariff after 9(?) months -so a bit more saving. Not sure if this impacts on the cashback offer though

PaulusUK said:
Slightly OT, but does the Orange unlimited internet allow for using the phone as a modem? Is it unlimited internet or unlimited data?
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The unlimited package on orange does not allow tethering or VOIP...

Have done quite a bit of VOIP over 3G with Skype using an Orange 250mb data plan with my old Tytn 2 and never got charged for it, when I check my usage all it shows is I used a few megs, done that for months
Not tried tethering though as I have no need to.
They may say we don't allow you to do it but doesn't mean they banned it

Sorry, whats tethering?

ljames28 said:
You pay more though, the original deal i quote was £455, to get a 'free' Xbox Arcade it would cost £720. That's £265 more for a console thats worth £150 - So you're wasting £115! Hardly free ey?
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Ok for 6 months extra you get a FREE projector and £80 or pay £30 and get £20 and a free projector!
http://www.beepy.co.uk/mobile-phone...hin-35-24-month-home-cinema-gaming-projector/
Or get a FREE iPod so .... yeh it is free when you compare it with your deal

Recieved my orange UK diamond!!
Wooo!
I've got my diamond today through the m2yd and quidco cashback offer.
There's no discernable customisation to the interface and a very discreet orange badge on the rear cover.
Here are some unboxing pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/fareedoon/20080711Diamond
Also to add, it is sim-locked.

Got mine too!
Don't forget, first thing to do is look right at the bottom of the box and get the screen protector, and fit this before doing anything else

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Got mine too!
Don't forget, first thing to do is look right at the bottom of the box and get the screen protector, and fit this before doing anything else
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thanks, just noticed it!

Bell User in Canada: Internet Fees?

I hate Bell with a passion. After two short 1 week vacations in the states, I was charged for nearly $200 of money I didn't use, apparently for roamer packet data.
I never want to put myself in any situation where my phone sucks money out of my wallet without me knowing.
After installing Android (Thanks Myn!) on my HTC Touch (From Bell), I've been using it for a day and I wonder whether or not my internet access will cause my extra charges.
I used to have an unlimited data plan on my HTC Touch running WM 6.1, but is that transferred when I use Android? Essentially my phone now thinks its American, yet runs via Bell Mobility.
Should I stop using internet?

I too am on Bell's network with the unlimited mobile browser plan and do not get charged extra fees using any data on Android (while within Canada). This also goes for tethering. Although this is the vogue forum, I want to save confusion and let you know i am on an HTC Touch from Bell (Vogue).

I have the fun 15 bundle with Bell and have never been charged for data. From what I understand, Bell does not consider the Vogue to be a smartphone, and therefore allows you to take the Fun 15 (or other unlimited mobile browser package).
Cheers

shadoslayer said:
I have the fun 15 bundle with Bell and have never been charged for data. From what I understand, Bell does not consider the Vogue to be a smartphone, and therefore allows you to take the Fun 15 (or other unlimited mobile browser package).
Cheers
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Seriously? I've been paying extra for data... I'm with Bell and have the Touch.

I just need to put this out there. This question has been answered MANY times. If you had searched you would have found the answer

ThomasHW said:
Seriously? I've been paying extra for data... I'm with Bell and have the Touch.
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If you have Unlimited Mobile Browser and the Touch, then you shouldn't be paying any extra for data from Bell.

Liko said:
If you have Unlimited Mobile Browser and the Touch, then you shouldn't be paying any extra for data from Bell.
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I don't have unlimited browser, but I'm assuming a plan with that would be far cheaper than the $65 I'm paying?

ThomasHW said:
I don't have unlimited browser, but I'm assuming a plan with that would be far cheaper than the $65 I'm paying?
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You can add the Unlimited Browser option for $10 to any current plan. For $15 you can add Fun 15 Bundle which includes the Unlimited Browser, Call Display, Voicemail and 250 text sent.

I have to Touches with Bell both with unlimited, one is a postpaid and the other is prepaid and never get charged extra EXCEPT for one time I was in Niagara Falls right on the border, I ended up getting charged about 20 dollars for one day extra in Data fees they said because I was on the US towers, weird but I never left canada and still got charged.
Bell are horrible in everything except the unlimited data for the vogue lol.

Yep, as everyone stated, there should be no charges with UMB. For some its reason enough to try and get every last drop out of the vogue. I do look at some of the devices out there and wonder though.
I too was charged roaming data rates when in the South part of Vancouver Island (good old Sooke, BC). I guess I was on the US towers and checked my email a few times. I think charges were around $25. Be careful when close to the US!

Yes, I am on the $7 unlimited data plan and also have not paid a cent extra

bobjr said:
Yep, as everyone stated, there should be no charges with UMB. For some its reason enough to try and get every last drop out of the vogue. I do look at some of the devices out there and wonder though.
I too was charged roaming data rates when in the South part of Vancouver Island (good old Sooke, BC). I guess I was on the US towers and checked my email a few times. I think charges were around $25. Be careful when close to the US!
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masalma said:
I have to Touches with Bell both with unlimited, one is a postpaid and the other is prepaid and never get charged extra EXCEPT for one time I was in Niagara Falls right on the border, I ended up getting charged about 20 dollars for one day extra in Data fees they said because I was on the US towers, weird but I never left canada and still got charged.
Bell are horrible in everything except the unlimited data for the vogue lol.
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You can contest those charges. Let them know where you were and they'll remove the fees.

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You can contest those charges. Let them know where you were and they'll remove the fees.
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Trust me I did, no go.
Off topic: I once had added 500 long distance minutes for $30 I think from bell, and towards the end of the month I felt like I was getting close, so I called in to ask if I can add more, and the lady on the phone said since I am a student I can get a plan where I can make/receive unlimited nationwide calls from/to 10 numbers, all I have to do is go into a store and show my id and ask them to add the plan.
Next day I head down to a Bell store, tell them I want the student plan, and to add to my plan 40 long distance minutes for $7 just in case I call or receive any long distance calls outside of these numbers.
Well what the girl did, she added the student plan, and the $7 plan, but she took off the 500min for $30. When I got my phone bill it was close to $400 for that month because they ended up charging me for the 500 minutes of long distance. Lets just say it took about 3-4 months to get them to issue a refund, and with so much time spent on the phone, at the store, with managers.
basically screw Bell, if they didn't have this unlimited browser for the Vogue, I wouldn't even touch them.
rant over

I feel your pain. Any time they screw up, it's a guarantee you'll be spending time measured in days for them to correct it. I love it when you call back and find out that the previous person on the phone didn't keep any notes in their system and you have to start from scratch.
Unfortunately I think every other provider is equally crappy.

pretty much every time I call bell for anything I immediatly tell them I want to talk to 'retentions'. When the rep asks why I say cause I'm going to cancel my plan, pay it out a switch carriers.. They transfer me to retentions who is much more organized to deal with.
lol

Well.. I phoned Bell and asked why they were charging me for data when my phone wasn't considered a "smart phone" and why they didn't tell me this when I switched phones (I called in to switch). They gave me some garbage, and I said "yes... but I could have been paying $15 less a month and would of had the same service." He went and talked to his manager and they're reimbursing me for a few months and are switching my plan.

don't use data in the States
NEVER use your Touch in the States.
I was in Vegas for a week and a few checks of my email and a few Twitter updates (everything that automatically used data- push mail, MyPhone backup, weather- was disabled) and I've used 67 meg of data.
And $2000 tab from Bell Canada....
For the entire year of 2009 Bell reported to me that I used 120 meg, they falsely report your unlimited mobile browser usage to you by capping each mobile packet data session (check your bell bill, each session has the same total).. But when you go to the states (or another country that supports Bell CDMA) the provider that you are piggy-backing service from is reporting back to Bell what what your actual data usage is (like you were using any data device -blackberry, iphone etc.)..
it gets better..
Bell bills this, out of plan, mobile browser foreign usage at $30 per megabyte - it bills actual data phone foreign usage at $6 per megabyte.
I had naively bought the 2meg $20 US mobile browser thinking this should cover my usage while in the states..oops
I've talked to a dozen different people at Bell from CSR's, supervisors, managers to different people in the executive office; they all say after consulting with their "data expert" that there was nothing wrong or abnormal about my usage in the states. 100% true I used my phone data normally, they are looking for a one time large or abnormal usage.
But as we're not getting billed normally, we are not able to make informed decisions about a) pre-buying a US mobile browser package or b) monitoring mobile browser usage in the US. And getting forced to pay 5X what other data phone users are paying for their data usage in the US.
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I hate Bell with a passion. After two short 1 week vacations in the states, I was charged for nearly $200 of money I didn't use, apparently for roamer packet data.
I never want to put myself in any situation where my phone sucks money out of my wallet without me knowing.
After installing Android (Thanks Myn!) on my HTC Touch (From Bell), I've been using it for a day and I wonder whether or not my internet access will cause my extra charges.
I used to have an unlimited data plan on my HTC Touch running WM 6.1, but is that transferred when I use Android? Essentially my phone now thinks its American, yet runs via Bell Mobility.
Should I stop using internet?
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ahh there is a god..
I finally got resolution to my $2000 bill from bell for US mobile browser usage.. they had offered a 50% reduction..
I finally got a sane person at the Executive Office who charged me $45 for the new US 1GB package and has wiped out the outstanding US browser charges. The 'data-expert' that was to return my call is no longer with Bell... and NO body at Bell understands the difference between mobile browser usage (capped) and Data usage (uncapped).. even better when you bill says "roamer data usage"
... good timing too as the accounts receivable bastards had disabled both my phones with Bell Mobility and I had borrowed $1500 to reactive them.
Be polite, but persistent..
Now on my next trip to the US should I try and pre-purchase the 1GB US data package for $45.. LOL

wow. that is a horror story if i've ever heard one. i have seen how the UMB shows capped packet data but never understood why they would do that. It doesn't make sense. Are they not recording the correct data internally or just not reporting it correctly?

10$ for it? damn... i'm glad I got in before the price hikes... it might only be a couple dollars but it adds up. When I signed up, it was 5$, and I was enrolled for some promo that knocked it down to 3$ a month. About a year ago I got a letter saying it was going up to 7$, but the promo's still on my account knocking off 2$ every month so I only pay 5 for it... Kinda wondering what to do when my contract finally expires in 6 months, since I'm quite enjoying the vogue with android for 40$ a month after taxes... (200 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited data etc etc) and I know they won't renew my contract at that rate :/

I got bumped to the 2gb data plan? what to do

i got the text yesterday and got the same old thing from the CSR. smartphone blah blah.
I was on the 30$ everything plan and now its 25$ for 2gb and $20 for unlimited texts.
Is there anything I can say to the rep tomorrow when I call back? I was on that previous plan ($30) for a long time, couple years I think.
Been at att for 13 years.
I have a tmo N1 also, I could switch but I don't know about their coverage down here.
I don't I'm beating a dead horse, I'm sorry. I did do some searching before hand.
any advice?

I can't help you but to say that I received the exact same awful news this week. I can't understand how they feel justified in doing this since I am not under contract and my plan was grandfathered in. I am going to call them tomorrow and let them know how I feel but I doubt it helps. I guess I'll just have to take my four phones elsewhere.

I literally had nothing to say to the guy after he came back from having me on hold. 30$ was the smart plan back two years ago wasn't it? So now it's not and we need $15 more dollars from you?
I'd rather pay google for good VOIP.
I can't find prices for tmo even more plus plans online anymore, I know they use to be there?

Legally, because they changed your plan, you can back out of their service without an early termination fee. That's probably the best thing you can do.

They do periodic scans... Once it happens automatically there's nothing you can do to get the cheap unlimited plan back. If you ask nicely you CAN get the unlimited data plan, but of course you'll pay $30 for it.
What can you do to mitigate it? I suppose you could use Wifi more, if you listen to streaming music a lot perhaps instead buy a bigger SD card and listen to music from there? Don't stream videos to it?
Personally I have only gone a hair over 1G since I've had my Nexus One, but I stream music only a few hours a month and otherwise it's market updates, email, data syncing etc.
I got switched back a few weeks ago myself too, but this time instead of exploding I figured there's nothing you can do about it, at least in the long term, except for talking from your wallet. When you contract is up, move somewhere else and tell AT&T why.
They keep giving us broader access to fast cellular data, keep making it faster, but continue to reduce what we can use of it. Same with home broadband, friend has 20mbit cable broadband at his house but it drops to like 1mbit/sec if he uses more than 5G/month.

I don't have a contract. I'm going to check a tmo sim in my house and see how the coverage is. Maybe switch after a final call to att. I have atmo n1 also.
silly thing is I've never went over 250mb a month. BUT what's the point of watching or keeping track of how much data you've used when you pay these Fu**s 1200 a year?

jbrinkley said:
I don't have a contract. I'm going to check a tmo sim in my house and see how the coverage is. Maybe switch after a final call to att. I have atmo n1 also.
silly thing is I've never went over 250mb a month. BUT what's the point of watching or keeping track of how much data you've used when you pay these Fu**s 1200 a year?
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exactly ! and, when the advertisement says UNLIMITED, by god that's what I'm paying for. if/when a telco throttles my account for using "too much" i'm suing.
so far this month, 4Gb. i'm on tmo, and while the out-of-town coverage isn't great, i'm never too far off the interstate for it to matter.
vote with your money. not like they care, with 20 million iphone users coughing up whatever amount they are told to. ;-)

well, there ain't jack the retention people can do. Been at att for 12 years now.
It's impossible to go back I guess. Also you can't just have voice voice or data alone. Thought about having two sims active at the same time, one from tmo and one from att.
According to him there is only 200mb or 2gb plans no matter what you had before they auto switch you.
What he did do was switch me to a 29.99 voice with rollover instead of the lowest advertised 39.99 450 rollover plan.
Drop to 1500 texts a month for $15 instead of unlimited for $20. (which I'm slowly swapping people over to my GV number)
and 2gb data for whatever that price is, I don't remember. But at least my bill is within $5 of what it was the other day.
Att just doesn't really care to much about what they're doing to customers.
I'm still going to go check out tmo and coverage at my house when I have time.
retention guy was cool. I recommend not hanging up or cussing these people.
Att is the devil.

wow, glad i'm on T-mobile i'm using a grandfathered G1 unlimited data/400 texts plan, but if i ever needed unlimited texts i could just upgrade to the even more plan and i would end up with 200 more anytime minutes and unlimited texts along with unlimited data, i currently pay 55 dollars a month total and the current even more plan (no contract plan) is 60 dollars a month.

jbrinkley said:
I literally had nothing to say to the guy after he came back from having me on hold. 30$ was the smart plan back two years ago wasn't it? So now it's not and we need $15 more dollars from you?
I'd rather pay google for good VOIP.
I can't find prices for tmo even more plus plans online anymore, I know they use to be there?
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The EM+ plans are still available, but you have to go to a store or call T-mo to sign up for that plan.

ohgood said:
exactly ! and, when the advertisement says UNLIMITED, by god that's what I'm paying for. if/when a telco throttles my account for using "too much" i'm suing.
so far this month, 4Gb. i'm on tmo, and while the out-of-town coverage isn't great, i'm never too far off the interstate for it to matter.
vote with your money. not like they care, with 20 million iphone users coughing up whatever amount they are told to. ;-)
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You realize the irony here is that the users who use hoards of data are part of the reason why they keep clamping down? How can you possibly use 4G of data doing semi-normal things? Must be tethering or doing nonsense (like one poster in the past; he was doing daily ROM downloads of multiple ROMs and associated packages...)

Anyone else feel the same?

I feel like I'm getting raped by tmobile. I pay 99 dollars a month for one line "unlimited" everything. I just opened the line on the even more + flexpay account.

That's what I was paying when I had tmobile
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

I hear it's the same at sprint. The savings only shows in family plans.
Sent from The Republic of Texas

ddgarcia05 said:
I hear it's the same at sprint. The savings only shows in family plans.
Sent from The Republic of Texas
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Here's how I get raped every month:
1. Fixed usage charges (pay even if you don't call anyone or send any messages): RM50
2. Fixed internet charges (as above, only for 3GB. Any more will incur further charges): RM68
3. Fixed line and broadband (4.0 Mbps): RM140
4. Six percent service tax on all of the above: RM 15.48
5. Total: RM273.48
6. Disconnecting and never staying online for more than a few hours: Priceless!

I pay $ 170.00 a month to T-mobile. I have two lines a thousand minutes, unlimited texts (both lines), android data @ $24.99 a month x2, handset insurance for both lines and Slacker premium for $ 3.99 a month on my line. (I also have a Sprint account and a Verizon account) o_0
Sent from either my N1, Nexus S or telepathically using two tin cans and some string (I still can't decide I really love string)

M_T_M said:
Welll...here it goes:
4 Lines
1500 minutes
Unlimited: Internet, data, text for......
$142.00 a month + tax!!
How is it that you guys are paying so much? I've been T-Mobile client for the last 7 years and never paid that much!
BTW....T-Mobile FTW!!
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Without tax, insurance or the Slacker Radio I pay $151.90 a month but somehow t-mobile adds tax to my handset ins. charging me $7.40 a month per line for something that should cost $5.99 a month per line. (also since I had two Nexus Ones Assurion told me I should only be paying $4.79 for each since they don't offer the $1.99 warranty on the Nexus. [email protected]&%king T-Mo won't change it.
Sent from either my N1, Nexus S or telepathically using two tin cans and some string (I still can't decide I really love string)

ok, here's what my carrier (si.mobil) has (i know you are talking about t-mobile, but anyway):
- unlimited calls in same network
- 1500 min of calls in other networks
- 3 gb of data (you can get unlimited, but different way)
- 1000 messages
for 100 $
not so cheap
p.s. i'm not paying that much, it's just the best you can get here.
p.s.s. what i'm actually paying:
- 100 mb data (enough for me, believe it or not )
- 1000 min of calls in same network
- 0.10 (€) cent/min in other networks
- 1000 sms and mms
for 10€/ 14 $

I'm paying about the same. That's why I'm leaving to Verizon
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Im with Sprint but I was just reading a post where somebody explained how he got his bill lowered a lot. You guys should definately check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993278