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Help with wm5 to wm6 upgrade!

I'm dizzy reading all the threads, information overload, so thought I'd just post the question! This is all a bit scary and I'm a complete newbie so take it easy on me... and feel free to dumb everything down as if I were a child.
I live in Australia and have a Treo 750 with Software Version TREO750-1.15-ROW. It seems to be unlocked but still has the Telstra splash screen, although I use it with Vodafone. I want to upgrade to WM6, and from what I can tell I should upgrade using Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip (which I now have). Is this right? Should I skip straight to the WM6.1 upgrade? Are these official/safe?
I am running 32-bit Vista with SP1 on my laptop.
I found instructions on Palm's site here:
http://www.palm.com/au/support/treo750/downloads/wm6update.html
Are those the instructions I should follow? Is that all I need to do? I keep seeing references to the "Bootloader Method" or the "SD Card Method" or the "Cheetah Method". What are all these alternative methods? Which are the advantages of each? I've seen various different instructions, some involving renaming some .nbh file, etc. What is the definitive method?
I saw the sticky thread for the "Cheetah Hard-SPL and SIM Unlocker"... what is that utility for? Are the instructions for it in the download itself? (I didn't see it in the thread) What are "cooked" ROMs and why should I be interested? Where can I find them?
Sorry for the newbieness... thanks so much to all who respond!

upgrade to WM6
If you want to upgrade to the official palm WM6 rom - then you use Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip and it is very simple - just connect the PPC to your computer . (as I know better to do it with a computer with WINXP and Activesync) , then run the program in the file Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip, and that's it.
If you want to upgrade to other roms like 6.1 normal or lite that you can find in this forum - then you need the other methods (there are two as I know - bootloader method or Kaizer..somthing method). Well, I wrote a guide how to upgrade to WM 6.1 lite using the bootloader method , I just sum up from this forum :
1. Download the rom file and the radio file:
Rom file from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/89355384/Treo750_WM6.1_WWE_Lite.rar
The radio file from here :
http://rapidshare.com/files/89336971/Treo750Radio1.54.07.00.rar
2. Download the Hard-SPL from here :
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Cheetah/Unlocker/CheetahUnlocker.rar
3. Format mini SD card 32 FAT , using a card reader or other way.
4. Do a HARD-SPL with the CheetahUnlocker file ( step 2) . Connect the Treo with your computer using Active sync(for WINXP) and run the file. Use those steps:
- Click the Step 1.... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Now watch the Screen on your PDA it will launch 2 times verification...
- just click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- after finisih... wait until the activesync go green again.....
- Now click the Step 2... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Watch the screen again... same thing.. it will launch 2 times verification.
- click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- After finish it your PC screen will shows some popup. ignore the reading bla bla bla... about ask u to click ok.
- Just wait untill your activesync go green again.
- Now click that bloody Popup OK button.
- The unlocker app will shows up again..
- Then you will see errors saying.. continue, cancel...etc... bla bla... just click continue.. error message.. iqnore it and then just finish it.
- Now your Cheetah should be on HARD SPL mode.
5. Install the ROM :
a. Using Winrar get the file from step 1. It's name should be : CHEEIMG.nbh
b. Copy the file to the root of the mini SD .
c. Do BOOTLOADER:
1. turn phone on
2. press the MEDIA button AND at the same time with the stylus the RESET PIN
the MEDIA button is the 3rd button on the left side of the phone, under the volume button
the RESET PIN is under the MINI SD card cover
3. keep holding the MEDIA button (left side of phone) until you get the 3 color screen
Wait until it finishes. Then Hard reset the device when prompted. To hard-reset, hold the End key while pressing the pin reset button. Answer “yes” to “Erase all data” prompt.
6. Flash the radio at the same way – just copy the radio file to the mini Sd – it should be the same name. (CHEEIMG.nbh ) .
7. Download the Palm SMS file from hereYou need it only for the lite version)
http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
And install it as regular software (Copy to the mini SD and run it from the Treo.)
And that it all !!
Do not restore from your backup (You can restore only your data files).
Good luck !!

Update Successful
Thanks mate, I'm not brave enough to try the wm6.1 upgrade yet, but I did manage to upgrade to wm6 with the Updater, even though my device was "not supported". I ended up using the method where you edit the payloads.xml file before clicking 'start' so that it accepts your current device version, etc. I'm all good now.

libal said:
If you want to upgrade to the official palm WM6 rom - then you use Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip and it is very simple - just connect the PPC to your computer . (as I know better to do it with a computer with WINXP and Activesync) , then run the program in the file Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip, and that's it.
If you want to upgrade to other roms like 6.1 normal or lite that you can find in this forum - then you need the other methods (there are two as I know - bootloader method or Kaizer..somthing method). Well, I wrote a guide how to upgrade to WM 6.1 lite using the bootloader method , I just sum up from this forum :
1. Download the rom file and the radio file:
Rom file from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/89355384/Treo750_WM6.1_WWE_Lite.rar
The radio file from here :
http://rapidshare.com/files/89336971/Treo750Radio1.54.07.00.rar
2. Download the Hard-SPL from here :
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Cheetah/Unlocker/CheetahUnlocker.rar
3. Format mini SD card 32 FAT , using a card reader or other way.
4. Do a HARD-SPL with the CheetahUnlocker file ( step 2) . Connect the Treo with your computer using Active sync(for WINXP) and run the file. Use those steps:
- Click the Step 1.... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Now watch the Screen on your PDA it will launch 2 times verification...
- just click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- after finisih... wait until the activesync go green again.....
- Now click the Step 2... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Watch the screen again... same thing.. it will launch 2 times verification.
- click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- After finish it your PC screen will shows some popup. ignore the reading bla bla bla... about ask u to click ok.
- Just wait untill your activesync go green again.
- Now click that bloody Popup OK button.
- The unlocker app will shows up again..
- Then you will see errors saying.. continue, cancel...etc... bla bla... just click continue.. error message.. iqnore it and then just finish it.
- Now your Cheetah should be on HARD SPL mode.
5. Install the ROM :
a. Using Winrar get the file from step 1. It's name should be : CHEEIMG.nbh
b. Copy the file to the root of the mini SD .
c. Do BOOTLOADER:
1. turn phone on
2. press the MEDIA button AND at the same time with the stylus the RESET PIN
the MEDIA button is the 3rd button on the left side of the phone, under the volume button
the RESET PIN is under the MINI SD card cover
3. keep holding the MEDIA button (left side of phone) until you get the 3 color screen
Wait until it finishes. Then Hard reset the device when prompted. To hard-reset, hold the End key while pressing the pin reset button. Answer “yes” to “Erase all data” prompt.
6. Flash the radio at the same way – just copy the radio file to the mini Sd – it should be the same name. (CHEEIMG.nbh ) .
7. Download the Palm SMS file from hereYou need it only for the lite version)
http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
And install it as regular software (Copy to the mini SD and run it from the Treo.)
And that it all !!
Do not restore from your backup (You can restore only your data files).
Good luck !!
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Did everything - step by step but nothing!
still the color screen with the word serial in the bottom!
What is wrong ???
Thanks in advance,
Nir

Got it!!
Turned out vista is displaying fat32 file system no matter what the file system is...
Nir

WM 6.1 Upgrade
Can anyone tell me where the AT&T Upgrade for the Treo 750 is to version 6.1. I have seen many different posts here that show many different links and different downloads with different loading instructions. Is there anything out there that is clear? I am willing to give it a try, but I am not exactly sure of which download to try. Thanks for your help.

Help...Can Not upgrade my O2 XDA IIs to either WM5 or WM6

Gentlemen
I am new here, in the past 1 week, I have read a lot documents here, thanks to you guys create such a wonderful forum and great articles, I also download a lot of file from here try to upgrade my XDA IIs to WM6, tried so many times on different version, but all failed.
Here is my XDA IIs info, hope someone here can give me a hint on what's the problem and how should I fix it... Thanks
Windows Mobile 2003 second edition, Version 4.21.1088 (Build 15045.2.6.0)
ROM Version: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM Date: 03/10/05
Radio version: 1.12.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.40.923 WWE
CPU: Intel PXA263, speed 400 MHz
RAM SIZE: 128MB
Flash size: 32MB
Flash chip type: 28F128K3
Data bus: 32 bits
Storage size: 43.26 MB
Thanks a lot

i have the same problem too..can anyone please help us out..wanted to upgrade from WM2003 to either WM5 or WM6 so i can put some of those iPhone theme on my phone..thanks in advance..(my phone details below)

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thats messed up nobody responds cuz i was thinking about update myself but was worried i'll mess up major

window mobile 6.1 for xda lls
vfan3388 said:
Gentlemen
I am new here, in the past 1 week, I have read a lot documents here, thanks to you guys create such a wonderful forum and great articles, I also download a lot of file from here try to upgrade my XDA IIs to WM6, tried so many times on different version, but all failed.
Here is my XDA IIs info, hope someone here can give me a hint on what's the problem and how should I fix it... Thanks
Windows Mobile 2003 second edition, Version 4.21.1088 (Build 15045.2.6.0)
ROM Version: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM Date: 03/10/05
Radio version: 1.12.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.40.923 WWE
CPU: Intel PXA263, speed 400 MHz
RAM SIZE: 128MB
Flash size: 32MB
Flash chip type: 28F128K3
Data bus: 32 bits
Storage size: 43.26 MB
Thanks a lot
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i already upgrade my xda lls to window mobile 6.1 and im very like this new roms..before this im planning to sale my xda.but since i use this new roms,i dont want to sale it anymore.thanks to master phoenix to pose the roms at him blog. You must have usb or cradle to do this.just follow the instruction there very2 carefully.
download here :
Go to http://pinoytopdownloads.blogspot.com
you can also go to this forum to see another review
http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_iis-reviews-933.php
good luck
[email protected]

spyrgyro said:
i have the same problem too..can anyone please help us out..wanted to upgrade from WM2003 to either WM5 or WM6 so i can put some of those iPhone theme on my phone..thanks in advance..(my phone details below)
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i already upgrade my xda lls to window mobile 6.1 and im very like this new roms..before this im planning to sale my xda.but since i use this new roms,i dont want to sale it anymore.thanks to master phoenix to pose the roms at him blog. You must have usb or cradle to do this.just follow the instruction there very2 carefully.
download here :
Go to http://pinoytopdownloads.blogspot.com
you can also go to this forum to see another review
http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_iis-reviews-933.php
good luck
[email protected]

I don't know if I toasted my XDA
I have an XDA IIs. The biggest problem I think that I made was to use Windows Mobile center since I am using a Windows Vista OS.
I was about to install the windows 6.1 from pinoytopdownloads when suddenly, it stopped and continuosly displayed Serial......version 2.07.
Did I toast my ROM or did it just become blank because Windows Mobile Center disconnects once the phone started changing it's OS?
I have not tried checking if activesync 3.7 on a Windows XP application can still recognize the O2 Xda IIs in that state.
If anyone can guide me or give help regarding this, I will greatly appreciate it. thanks.

try using XP with active sync 4.5 and start the process from the top, hard reset first your BA and put it in bootloader mode...that should work

Upgrading Blue Angel using Vista (without Mail Button)
Hy everyone,
Yesterday I had a bit of a struggle trying to upgrade my SPV M2000 (aka Blue Angel) but in the end it worked.
As you guys are having some trouble too, I'm going to post the way I did it and hope that it works for you as well..
Note I: This steps worked for me but there is no guarantee that they will do so for you too and everything you try is at your own risk. However I am sure, you are all aware of this and really hope that this is going to help you.
Note II: My Laptop runs Vista Business, my BA WM2003 non-SE. I modified the installation process as the mail button on my BA is not working anymore, preventing me from following the normal instructions found in the wiki.
First of all (Prerequisites):
- Ensure Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC) is installed and updated to the most recent version. The latest version is 6.1 which worked fine for me.
- Get the drivers for the BA, to be found in the wiki
- Get MTTY 1.4.2, attached to this post
- Get the ROM you want to install, I used Sun Dream's WM6.1 which can be found in the wiki as well
Now, to the task:
To begin with we can follow the instructions given in the wiki for ugrading to wm6 using vista, so I'll just copy&paste those steps from there:
4. Put your device into Bootloader mode by pressing and hold the "Power" & "Record" buttons, and then press the Reset Button.
5. Connect the phone to the sync cable/cradle USB. (Now you can see "USB" at the top of your display and numbers (2.06 or 2.07 at the bottom) You may need to remove SD/MMC (memory) card
6. Now navigate into the WMDC (Start -> All Programs -> Windows Mobile Device Center)
* Click on the "connection settings" menu icon
* In the connection settings menu uncheck "allow USB connections" then press OK.
* Now exit the WMDC and return to the desktop
7. Go into the start menu and type "Services", this will take you into the local services dialogue and show a list of all services either running or registered with your pc.
* Scroll down the list and make sure these services are present:
* Windows Mobile-based connectivity
* Windows Mobile 2003-based connectivity
* If these services are not started then double click each one and set them to Automatic start by clicking the "startup-type" drop-down menu and selecting automatic then click the start button in the same window, apply the setting by pressing OK.
* Return back to the desktop again
8. Go into the start menu and type "Device Manager" then run, this will take you into the device manager.
* Click the "+" symbol next to "Mobile Devices" and double click on "HTC USB Sync". (Note: In my case this was labelled "Microsoft USB Sync")
* This will bring up the properties of the currently connected device.
* Go to the "Driver" tab and click "Update Driver".
* Click "Browse My Computer for Driver Software".
* Select "Let me pick from a list...."
* Click the "Have Disk" button.
* Click "Browse" and navigate to the AS_DRIVERS folder we created earlier.
* Now select your file
o Vista 32bit users select the file "wceusbsh.inf"
o Vista 64bit users select the file "wceusbshx64.inf"
* Then click Open.
* Click next and the driver will be installed (wait a moment).
* Press close and escape back to the desktop now.
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Next Steps, different from those described in the wiki:
9. Go to the task manager and kill the wmdc.exe process
10. Run MTTY; select the USB option from the dropdown list
- There is also a USB button but the instructions I found said NOT to use it, so I did not test it
- Apparently, the option could also be called something like WCEUSBSH001, but always has to contain USB. In my case it just said USB
- If you do not get a USB option something is not connected correctly, ie it will not work with the stock drivers Vista uses
crabiorc said:
(Leave default parameters: 8 bits / Flow Control NONE / Stop bits 1 / Parity None / Local Echo No)
Click OK
Run following commands:
- [press enter first to get USB> prompt]
USB>
- Type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset. (then hit Enter)
USB>set 14 0
HTCST ÚÈHTCEUSB>
- Type "task 28" to get your device formatted (hit Enter and wait for a little)
USB>task 28
DOC_format_HW+
DOCInfoTableinitHW+
Binary0:dwSize=80000
BINFS0:dwSize=0
FAT0:dwSize=1000000
FAT1:dwSize=2BA0000
All:dwSize=3C20000
USB>
- Type "task 0" to ask your device reboot (hit Enter)
USB>task 0
USB>
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Next Steps:
11. Take the phone off the cradle. I am not absloutely sure anymore, but I think it still was in bootloader mode at that point. If that is the case just soft reset the device.
- When the device has rebooted it will ask you whether to flash some settings (can't remember which..) about 3 times. Just answer no to all of them.
12. Restart WMDC and re-allow USB connections (under connection settings)
13. Reconnect your device to the cradle and start Active Sync on the Blue Angel
- Make sure your device is shown as "connected" in WMDC
14. Start the ROM installation.
Note: Using "BaUpgradeUT.exe" resulted in a Device ID error. In this case you have to use a version which does not check the ID codes. I used the version attached to this post
15. When the installation is finished, the dialogue on the computer says to cold boot (hard reset) the device.
- If your mail button is not working, just soft reset the device (what I did)
- If your mail button is working you may attempt this. (Please report back!)
I have not yet gotten through really testing the device and I never had a WM6.1 device before, thus no basis for comparison. From the first impressions the soft-reset at the end did not cause any problems and everything seems to be working fine.
16. You're done
Whew, this has gotten rather long. If this instructions work for you, please let me know!
As there seem to be several BAs out there where the mail button doesn't work this might be a useful addition to the wiki.
However, I will not post it there without some feedback whether it works for others as well..
(I hope there aren't to many mistakes in the text; I am not a native speaker)
Final Note:
This is not my work, all the steps described above were found on this forum and on the wiki pages. I just did the job of combining them in a way that worked for me.
My biggest thanks to:
- crabiorc
- ramram
- sp3dev
- all the people who contributed to the wiki pages
Best wishes,
Dipak

is it ok downgrade from wm6.5 to wm6.1?

blueangelkoe said:
is it ok downgrade from wm6.5 to wm6.1?
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Yes. If you feel more comfortable on a specific ROM it is always ok to downgrade or upgrade.

Upgrade XDA IIs to WM6.5
My XDA IIs just froze when resetted earlier and it was running on WM6.1 so I started to wonder if it had totally died. As I mainly leave it in the car and use it for satnav I was considering now buying a tomtom.
Then thought if its dead trying to revive it cant hurt so I found the following link (http://pinoytopdownloads.blogspot.com) to download a zipped file claiming to be WM6.5.
Opened the file and did a hard reset on devicethen sync with PC. Ran the programe which looked farmiliar from previous updates I had used so thought it might work. Half hour later, my XDA IIs came back to life running WM6.5 and none of my data such as text and contacts were lost at all.
It lives again.
Waiting for the HTC Touch Pro2 to see if it lives up to its hype and then can use my PDA as a phone again too cos lets face it... the XDA IIs is a bit of a lump now!
http://pinoytopdownloads.blogspot.com

Nice to hear that your BA is kicking again

Billy B said:
My XDA IIs just froze when resetted earlier and it was running on WM6.1 so I started to wonder if it had totally died. As I mainly leave it in the car and use it for satnav I was considering now buying a tomtom.
Then thought if its dead trying to revive it cant hurt so I found the following link (http://pinoytopdownloads.blogspot.com) to download a zipped file claiming to be WM6.5.
Opened the file and did a hard reset on devicethen sync with PC. Ran the programe which looked farmiliar from previous updates I had used so thought it might work. Half hour later, my XDA IIs came back to life running WM6.5 and none of my data such as text and contacts were lost at all.
It lives again.
Waiting for the HTC Touch Pro2 to see if it lives up to its hype and then can use my PDA as a phone again too cos lets face it... the XDA IIs is a bit of a lump now!
http://pinoytopdownloads.blogspot.com
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Billy B:
I just bought an 02 XDA IIs. I love it but the bluetooth doesn't work with my Motorola S9 stereo headset unless it's 6 inches from my head. Does your XDA IIs work with stereo bluetooth? Have you tried it with WM6.1? I'd like to know.

Upgrading to WM6.1, Etc.
For all you upgrading Blue Angels to WM6 and high, you need to read the Wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel. Read Blue Angel for beginners and also the upgrading to WM5 and WM6. You'll learn that you can free up some memory being used for the Extended ROM among other things.

I am new here, and this is my first rom flash. I have an O2 XDA lls that was given to me by a friend on WM2003. On XP, following the instructions on the wiki, I have tried with several roms. The flash seems to work, but then as soon as I reset the phone I am back in WM2003. Instead of a striped boot screen, I simply see an O2 logo, and when using the key combinations, I get no debug options.
Anyone have any ideas?

well did you flash a proper rom or maybe just a radio rom, meaning just an upgrade on wireless tech, because that process would "feel" like flashing a rom but actually doesn't change the OS

I don't really know. But I used the roms on this page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4
if that helps. I also used one off the helmi_c to check it wasn't a dodgy rom. DO you have any specific one to recommend? When I downloaded and unziped the rar, I simply ran the upgrade file within which started a wizard which said it would upgrade my pda. Strangely, the wizard did not display any information about the pda on the screen which tells you the rom info. Is it possible that it is not being detected? Do I need to install some extra drivers on XP?

it is perfectly normal that this upgrade tool does not show all the information like an official upgrade would, first of all, that is because these are cooked roms, meaning you only upgrade the OS, not the protocol, radio and extrom. that would be baked roms. but anyway, also, that the device's current information is not fully shown or not shown at all is normal, as you are probably using the MAupgradeut_noID.exe in contrast to the original BAupgradeut.exe, just by the first two letters (and the giant picture in the wizard) you can tell that this upgrade tool is actually for the magician, but works best for BA.
for recommendation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482997
the R6.1 release on that site is the newest real release, meaning you can get full further support, the download links work...
Don't get fooled by the R6.1, we are still talking about wm6.5, it is just the xplode release number.
P.S. no extra drivers needed, just use the wiki wizard word by word and it will work

The same thing happens again. Using the ROM upgrade file, it all seemed to work, and then when I attempt to do a hard reset, I get no stripes, just an O2 logo, and no boot options. I am then returned to Wm2003. Maybe I will try on another computer.

it's nice, but there is some application lost.
i've upgrade my xda 2s to WM6 cooked by HELMI, i download from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista and look powerfull, its nice, but there is some application lost that i need. there is'nt auto config and xBackup...some one can help me to get that application??....thank's.....

Windows 7 & HTC Drivers Issue

Hi
I have tried the dummies guide concerning updating the HTC USB drivers but had a couple of issues:
1. If I press F8 during the boot process I get an abreviated version of the bois setup which has no selection for turning off digital signing of drivers. I have an ASUS motherboard so to enter the bois I press the DEL key. Whilst in the bios I can see no option for turning off the digital signing. The instructions in the thread simply don't work.
I have done some searching and found web pages that explain how to enter the command window, paste 2 or 3 lines of text to turn off digital signing and put W7 64 bit into a sort of test mode. I have done that and have "Test Mode Windows 7600" in the bottom right corner of my Desktop. I still can't install the HTC USB driver as it brings up an error due to being not signed.
Without installing the new driver I cant change my ROM. There must be others in the same boat having changed to Windows 7. Please help.

Ok a few things:
I'm on windows 7 x64 build 7600, I'm having NO problems, just connect your device in windows let it connect with active sync
Then de-connect your blacktsone, shut it down, and hold volume down button then press start up, it will now start in bootloader mode
Now re-connect and wait for it to get installed by your pc!
If you really DO need htc drivers
Go into your bios
Turn of any quick booting AND turn off full logog display
When windows is starting AFTER the bootscreen you'll get a screen with some sort of TABLE in it with all your hardware and all they're IRQ's
at THIS moment when you see this table press f8
Then you get a boot menu
and you can follow your guide with turning off the signed drivers etcetera!
Great Greet Giblet

wow dude, treat me like the idiot I am. Step by step please.
"Then de-connect your blacktsone" - i guess you mean take out the USB cable?
I wait for it to get re-installed but nothing happens whilst in bootloader and the word serial stays at the bottom of the screen

OMG
Oh my god, I am really frustrated becuase I managed to get it to work with your help but I don't know how. I must have tried everything 10 times without luck then all of a sudden it worked.
If only I knew what I was doing wrong I could pass it along to the next poor sap.
Thanks for your help.
H

Some options to get a new ROM on your device:
Alternative Option: Run ROM from storage card (this requires HSPL on your device)
- Connect your phone to your pc with the usb cable
- Choose Disk Drive option on your phone when presented with the choice.
- Extract the downloaded rar and if not called BLACIMG.nbh rename the romfile to that (ruusigned.nbh is commonly used so rename when so)
- Copy the BLACIMG.nbh to your phone's storage card via Windows Explorer where it should show up as an removable harddrive.
- Disconnect your phone from the pc once copy has finished.
- Shut down your phone.
- Press Volume Down (left top of phone) and keep it pressed while pressing the Start button (on top of phone) once.
- The bootloader (red,green,blue,white screen) will now start, it will detect the new rom file and ask you if you want to update your current one.
- Confirm and follow instructions on screen
Done.
As for your unsigned drivers i can offer some tips:
- Press F8 after you have seen all your hard drives recognized in the bios bootup screen but before you see the Windows Logo.
- F8 might be set as a bootselector menu by your motherboard manufacturer, if this gets in the way of trying the get to the F8 options from Windows you can disable it in your BIOS (to enter press del)
- If you have Windows 7 Ultimate you are entitled to XP-Mode which is basically a built in virtual machine of Windows XP within Windows 7, some people have been succesfull connection their phone to that XP installation and were able to update via it.
Hope this helps. together with the previous poster's comment you should come a long way, good luck.

Heefy said:
Oh my god, I am really frustrated becuase I managed to get it to work with your help but I don't know how. I must have tried everything 10 times without luck then all of a sudden it worked.
If only I knew what I was doing wrong I could pass it along to the next poor sap.
Thanks for your help.
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Oh lol, guess you just managed, grats on that. for future you could try the alternative option i posted, works garanteed irregardless of operation system.

Solution found, thread closed
In future try posting such queries in the Dummies guide: updating HTC USB Sync Drivers thread. Thats what its there for

flash tells me it isn't a BA, when I know it is

I have definitely got the blue angel. It is an O2 Xda 11s.
I have downloaded the how to flash your BA pdf by D-Two, and followed the instructions. It gets through to the stage where it's about load the software onto the phone, and then it quits saying that he phone is not the appropriate model.
device information
Operator version: PDAViet.net
ROM version: 6.01.10 VH
ROM date: 07/08/08
Radio version: 1.06.00
ExtROM: diamond (01)
RAM size: 128 MB
Flashing eyes: 32 MB
Storage size: 60.3 MB
At present I have windows mobile 6.1.
And suggestions please?

for upgrading, you use the MAupgradeut_noID.
that program avoids country id errors but it was originally made for the magician, hence MA, whereas the original BA upgrade utility is called BAupgradeut.
that is why you get that error. you have to put the device into bootloader mode before connecting it to the pc and before starting maupgradeut_noid, that way, you avoid the device id check.
make sure to follow the correct upgrade procedure, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630416

These are the instructions I used;
Temporarily remove your SD Card (it may work for you with the SD card still in your BA, but you may not be able to enter USB mode when cradled).
Put your device into Bootloader mode by pressing and holding the "Power" & "Record" buttons, and then press the Reset Button. Help me with this step
Connect the phone to the sync cable/cradle. sarcasm ahead Note: Did you see a sign out in front of this point that said: "You can flash using BlueTooth connection?" You know why you didn't see that sign? Because you can NOT FLASH using BlueTooth!
Now you can execute the installer file. (something like "MaUpgradeUt_noID")<--------------- Used This
Here is the screen just before boarding the software.
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt356/Pterodactyl_2012/ba1.png
And here is the error message.
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt356/Pterodactyl_2012/ba2.png

nope, you are not using the proper maupgradeut_noid, because that would show a magician on the left, whereas your pictures clearly show a BA, so download the Chef_Tony RUU from my signature and try that. it has the right maupgradeut_noid, that will avoid errors like that.

Chef_Tony said:
nope, you are not using the proper maupgradeut_noid, because that would show a magician on the left, whereas your pictures clearly show a BA, so download the Chef_Tony RUU from my signature and try that. it has the right maupgradeut_noid, that will avoid errors like that.
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yep, you were right,,,,,,, BUT same error message;
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt356/Pterodactyl_2012/xda4.png

you are trying to flash using vista/7 have you read d-two's manual about that, with the customized driver and everything?
alternatively try a windows xp pc and follow the tutorial in my signature (the read first link)
and make sure, that you don't copy around the rom too much. download the rom and the ruu directly to the pc you flash from and use it from that folder directly. i use windows 7 on my main pc and can only flash from my netbook which runs windows xp, and due to too much copying, i had similar errors, because after copying the rom to a usb flash drive without problems, still the crc changed.
don't worry, your case is far from hopeless, but you seem to be unlucky and go through every problem there is

Chef_Tony said:
you are trying to flash using vista/7 have you read d-two's manual about that, with the customized driver and everything?
alternatively try a windows xp pc and follow the tutorial in my signature (the read first link)
and make sure, that you don't copy around the rom too much. download the rom and the ruu directly to the pc you flash from and use it from that folder directly. i use windows 7 on my main pc and can only flash from my netbook which runs windows xp, and due to too much copying, i had similar errors, because after copying the rom to a usb flash drive without problems, still the crc changed.
don't worry, your case is far from hopeless, but you seem to be unlucky and go through every problem there is
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Okay yes, I should have said this. I am using windows seven on a Lenovo N500 4233 32g. The problem is, trying to get hold of an XP machine. Have you tried running this programme in compatibility mode? I will have a look at your instructions and see where I get to.
Thanks for your help,

Is d-two's manual, the HTC service manual in you sig?

no, it is to be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5456317&postcount=6
compatibility has nothing to do with it, neither has the xp mode or any virtual machine, because there must be suitable windows 7 drivers present. but i cannot help you with his tutorial, since i use windows xp for flashing and have never successfully used windows 7 for flashing.
the htc service manual in my sig is the official htc manual for hardware repairs, you can learn to disassemble the device there and have a list of spare parts

[Q] help please please'

i have been trying for days to update my xda ll himalaya from 2003 to windows 6 plus, but with no luck.
i follow all the instructions on this forum' but no luck at all.
it keeps going back to programes that were set by factory bloody phone.
i must have downloaded nearly all the roms on this site and tried to install them with no luck' i was wondering can i install a new operating system over the old one a bit like a lap top you know like booting from a sd card and installing over the top of the old one.
please fellows i do need help on this one, my daughter keeps offering me this samsung pink small slide thing, because my phone wont update' save me from this pink gross small keyed thing.
many thanks guys

Sounds like you're running a 64bit Win7. That won't work! (unless mabee virtual)

basicbri said:
i have been trying for days to update my xda ll himalaya from 2003 to windows 6 plus, but with no luck.
i follow all the instructions on this forum' but no luck at all.
it keeps going back to programes that were set by factory bloody phone.
i must have downloaded nearly all the roms on this site and tried to install them with no luck' i was wondering can i install a new operating system over the old one a bit like a lap top you know like booting from a sd card and installing over the top of the old one.
please fellows i do need help on this one, my daughter keeps offering me this samsung pink small slide thing, because my phone wont update' save me from this pink gross small keyed thing.
many thanks guys
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Look in my English Thread (WM6.1,WM6.5,WM6.5.x) i have an "HowTo" for Win7 64x (Work for Himalaya too)

d-two said:
Look in my English Thread (WM6.1,WM6.5,WM6.5.x) i have an "HowTo" for Win7 64x (Work for Himalaya too)
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Oh, yes. I remember reading it. OK, I'm getting old!

where factory apps come from - ms_.nbf -
basicbri said:
i have been trying for days to update my xda ll himalaya from 2003 to windows 6 plus, but with no luck.
i follow all the instructions on this forum' but no luck at all.
it keeps going back to programes that were set by factory bloody phone.
i must have downloaded nearly all the roms on this site and tried to install them with no luck' i was wondering can i install a new operating system over the old one a bit like a lap top you know like booting from a sd card and installing over the top of the old one.
please fellows i do need help on this one, my daughter keeps offering me this samsung pink small slide thing, because my phone wont update' save me from this pink gross small keyed thing.
many thanks guys
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you will need the stuff from this post -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648067
install - ER2003Edit_1_4_26.msi on pc
it will enable you to be able to open the ms_.nbf
the ms_.nbf needs to be put in the same folder as
HimaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
nk.nbf
ms_.nbf
when upgrading.
the ms_.nbf is where all the old factory programs are coming from its known as the EXTROM.
it houses programs that the factory thinks that should always be installed but not uninstalled by the public, thats why they do not appear in remove programs tab.but we do not need a lot of this stuff as we are now running WM 6.5.
the ms_.nbf that is here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648067
has already been cleaned of any factory placed program .cabs so you can use that one straight off,it does contain 2 splash images that you could change?
its best not too have any .cabs in ms_.nbf as you will then be able to do this -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332215
hope helps,let us know how u got on....

still having problems with update
hi advanced'
thanks for the help' what ive done was downloaded all thos programes you advised me to.
extracted them to my desktop' installed the one that opens the rom image.
opend the rom image had a look it said i was on o2 but ive unlocked it to my network orange, but i didnt change anything just save the image and came out of the programe.
then i opened windows mobile connected my xdall to it and created a new folder in games called smart, i then copy the ms file and the himaupgrade to this folder.
which ever way i try to run this ie from my windows mobile sysc, i get the same message first it says about update and delete my old software, goes through the checking stage then says update has a problem please take out usb and soft reset device and try again.
and if i try to run it from my mobile it says there is no application associated with ms_ run the application first then openthis file from within the application.
this is driving me up the wall, also i am using windows 7 might that be a problem.
many thanks
basicbri

the HimaUpgradeUt_noID.exe was never made to run on win7 that why we have too tweek.
follow this its for xp/vista but also applies for win 7 -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428469
when all hooked up ie. device in bootloader (you cannot update in win mobile it needs to be in bootloader mode)and all ready to run, make sure u have all 3 files in same folder on desktop pc not win mobile device...
3 files are -
HimaUpgradeUt_noID.exe - update app
nk.nbf - actual win mo 6.5 rom image
ms_.nbf - extrom image
the ms_.nbf can be opened with ER2003Edit_1_4_26.msi and just delete the o2 option from the 2 drop down and type in ORANGE then go - file - save ROM image - exit
after update app has finished make sure you do this before you start up device for first time -
Select the options as follows:
(for selecting use Record Button, change values with Camera Button)
Enable KITL -> NO
Clean Registry Hive -> YES
Format Storage -> YES
When done, press DPad/Action Button and wait until OS starts.
follow the update instructions for xp on here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428469
even though you are running win 7 its the same,where it differs is the actual driver install,follow the guide for vista for that..
post how ya got on

thanks for your help but
hi advanced ive put into action all the breakdown that you gave me'
it went into boot mode' showing usb top of screen and version 1.06 at the bottom.
but heres the weird thing' when i run this windows mobile centre without being in boot mode' no problems at all, now im run ning from boot mode through usb on windows 7 it just wont connect it stops with error 101 unable to update.
still a big problem please help .
rgds basicbri

or use the xda dev search function ???
which 6.5 rom are u trying to run...if it one of YAHAHANUVOELEGANLC they can be a bit fussy..what you have to do is copy the .nbf to a completely new folder somewhere on pc and use this update utilty....
post results ...

basicbri said:
hi advanced ive put into action all the breakdown that you gave me'
it went into boot mode' showing usb top of screen and version 1.06 at the bottom.
but heres the weird thing' when i run this windows mobile centre without being in boot mode' no problems at all, now im run ning from boot mode through usb on windows 7 it just wont connect it stops with error 101 unable to update.
still a big problem please help .
rgds basicbri
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And i say again look in my HowTo!!!

advanced15 said:
which 6.5 rom are u trying to run...if it one of YAHAHANUVOELEGANLC they can be a bit fussy..what you have to do is copy the .nbf to a completely new folder somewhere on pc and use this update utilty....
post results ...
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thanks for using my version!

flyboyovyick said:
thanks for using my version!
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hi'
ive done all sorts to get this new operating system in with not much luck at all.
i can get boot mode ok it says USB at the top and serial at the bottom, then i open hiyma upgrade put my phone in the cradle' but then it wont syc.
windows 7 is a big pain in my a..e bloody thing.
there must be some one out there that can cure this problem.
many thanks in advance.
basicbri

basicbri said:
hi'
ive done all sorts to get this new operating system in with not much luck at all.
i can get boot mode ok it says USB at the top and serial at the bottom, then i open hiyma upgrade put my phone in the cradle' but then it wont syc.
windows 7 is a big pain in my a..e bloody thing.
there must be some one out there that can cure this problem.
many thanks in advance.
basicbri
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It should not sync, to be clear.

aeroflyluby said:
It should not sync, to be clear.
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hi' everyone that has been so kind to help me......great big thank you
it still wont update im using windows 7 when i put the xda in boot mode' then put it in the cradle.
on screen it says usb on the top of the screen and the version number at the bottom.
i then ran himalaya update beta version' it tries to update but then gives a error but im not suprised because it showing no usb conection in windows 7.
but if i put my phone in the cradle without boot mode' it straight away connects to windows mobile sysc' and its fine...........bloody windows 7
what about flashing from sd card ive got a two gig one.
PLEASE PLEASE PEOPLE' SAVE ME FROM MY DAUGHTER WHO WANTS ME TO USE THIS GOD AWFULL PINK PHONE.
sorry for the caps mods' but this situation is urgent.
many thanks people
rgds basicbri

basicbri said:
hi' everyone that has been so kind to help me......great big thank you
it still wont update im using windows 7 when i put the xda in boot mode' then put it in the cradle.
on screen it says usb on the top of the screen and the version number at the bottom.
i then ran himalaya update beta version' it tries to update but then gives a error but im not suprised because it showing no usb conection in windows 7.
but if i put my phone in the cradle without boot mode' it straight away connects to windows mobile sysc' and its fine...........bloody windows 7
what about flashing from sd card ive got a two gig one.
PLEASE PLEASE PEOPLE' SAVE ME FROM MY DAUGHTER WHO WANTS ME TO USE THIS GOD AWFULL PINK PHONE.
sorry for the caps mods' but this situation is urgent.
many thanks people
rgds basicbri
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If you have 32 bit windows 7 download attachment from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428469
unpack it anywhere but remember where it's unpacked, desktop for example.
Then put hima into bootloader mode and into crandle.
Then click on PC :
Start > Right Mouse Click on Computer > in the left you should see Device Manager link, click on this > Go to Portable Devices or something like that, there should me USB Sync or something like this > Click right mouse on it and tap Update driver > Select Browse my computer blabla > click on Let me choose someting blabla, this second option > Click DISC button > Navigate to folder where you opened this and open wceusbsh blabla > select Microsoft USB Sync or something on the list and click next > install driver > Run update and flash, lol

basicbri said:
hi' everyone that has been so kind to help me......great big thank you
it still wont update im using windows 7 when i put the xda in boot mode' then put it in the cradle.
on screen it says usb on the top of the screen and the version number at the bottom.
i then ran himalaya update beta version' it tries to update but then gives a error but im not suprised because it showing no usb conection in windows 7.
but if i put my phone in the cradle without boot mode' it straight away connects to windows mobile sysc' and its fine...........bloody windows 7
what about flashing from sd card ive got a two gig one.
PLEASE PLEASE PEOPLE' SAVE ME FROM MY DAUGHTER WHO WANTS ME TO USE THIS GOD AWFULL PINK PHONE.
sorry for the caps mods' but this situation is urgent.
many thanks people
rgds basicbri
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And again look in my howto's there is an description for Vista/Win7 32/64Bit

basicbri said:
hi'
ive done all sorts to get this new operating system in with not much luck at all.
i can get boot mode ok it says USB at the top and serial at the bottom, then i open hiyma upgrade put my phone in the cradle' but then it wont syc.
windows 7 is a big pain in my a..e bloody thing.
there must be some one out there that can cure this problem.
many thanks in advance.
basicbri
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there will be NO icon or message in win 7 that device is connected as long as you have USB at the top of device screen that lets you know it is connected....

hi advanced'
this himalaya xdall is still giving me problems'
ive done all of these' links and downloads to up date this mo fo' but without any luck.
this has been slowly driving me up the wall, even though i have followed to the letter everything page by page.
i dont think this is going to work on windows 7'
my usb icon bottom right of my screen is showing a green and white tick that indicates that my pda is conected but not in the my computer screen, even after i followed the information.
im also getting error 101 on the himalaya ungrader, as i said before what about flashing from my sd card thats got to be worth a try.
also i would like to hear from another members that have upgraded the xdall himalaya with windows 7.
but i do think this alas is not ment to be' my destiny is drawn towards my daughters god awlfull pink mobile.
SAVE ME FROM THIS IT IS NEARLY CHRISTMAS
cheers basic
p/s anyone have any ideas you can email me on
[email protected]

it does work on win 7...done it this end load of times
have u tried installing"Windows Mobile Device Center " which ya get from microsoft web site.
Windows Mobile Device Center - for win 7
ActiveSync - for xp
(if allready installed, uninstall and start fresh)
then when installed restart pc...
then follow -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428469
this great guide is for win 7 as well..follow the Windows Vista guide first to make win 7 play ball then after a pc reset follow the Windows XP guide for the actual updating...
and make sure you go through the different driver install ie. USBAS.zip
the reason for this is that win 7 runs "Windows Mobile Device Center" but the himalaya upgrader needs the drivers from the older "ActiveSync" which runs on xp.
make sure you have -
Uncheck the 'Allow USB Connections' box, and select 'OK'. in "Windows Mobile Device Center" settings before you try hooking up device in bootloader mode...
which WM 6.5 ROM are you trying to run ?
updating on win 7 works...it just takes some tweeking....

advanced15 said:
have u tried installing"Windows Mobile Device Center " which ya get from microsoft web site.
Windows Mobile Device Center - for win 7
ActiveSync - for xp
(if allready installed, uninstall and start fresh)
then when installed restart pc...
then follow -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428469
this great guide is for win 7 as well..follow the Windows Vista guide first to make win 7 play ball then after a pc reset follow the Windows XP guide for the actual updating...
and make sure you go through the different driver install ie. USBAS.zip
the reason for this is that win 7 runs "Windows Mobile Device Center" but the himalaya upgrader needs the drivers from the older "ActiveSync" which runs on xp.
make sure you have -
Uncheck the 'Allow USB Connections' box, and select 'OK'. in "Windows Mobile Device Center" settings before you try hooking up device in bootloader mode...
which WM 6.5 ROM are you trying to run ?
updating on win 7 works...it just takes some tweeking....
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It's ok to update without windows mobile center, you need just driver.
basicbri, if you followed my guide, you can't fail. It's really impossible to con't get it work with my manual. Try again, even if you didn't yet