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Im kinda upgrading from my wing to a tilt. A friend of a friend lol is selling his he has had for a month for $150 so I had to jump on it at that price.
I was just wanting to know if flashing a new rom on the tilt was pretty much the same on the wing?
And what is a good popular ROM you guys are using?
Thanks!
Paticakeman said:
Im kinda upgrading from my wing to a tilt. A friend of a friend lol is selling his he has had for a month for $150 so I had to jump on it at that price.
I was just wanting to know if flashing a new rom on the tilt was pretty much the same on the wing?
And what is a good popular ROM you guys are using?
Thanks!
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Best flashing tutorial is here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Go to the rom dev section for roms. One would think that the most popular would have the most hits.
But as in high school, the most popular isn't always the best.
I always think that hits = problems.
Paticakeman said:
what is a good popular ROM you guys are using?
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Why not try the one it comes with to see how satisfied you are with that first off? I know denko7 has already replied but I was very impressed with his reply to another post relating to bloatware on the Tilt here. I cant really talk with regard to Tilts but as far as official HTC TyTN II ROMs go (perhaps with the keyboard fix on a Tilt), the oldies (WM 6.0) were the goodies.
Indeed -- I took off the bloatware on my stock 6.1 and I'm very happy with the results.
You can always install Manila, etc via CABS later if you decide to give 'em a try.
However, when my warranty runs out, I just might try a ROM or two
burtcom said:
Indeed -- I took off the bloatware on my stock 6.1 and I'm very happy with the results.
You can always install Manila, etc via CABS later if you decide to give 'em a try.
However, when my warranty runs out, I just might try a ROM or two
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Ha Ha, I waited until my warranty ran out too. But I think that if I had known how easy it was and how much, much better my phone was going to run, I might have dared it much earlier.
Good thread idea, tough to answer
There are SO many roms now. Definitely use the stock rom - minus the bloat- for a while and see if there's any thing you want to add.
I would like to know if anyone has a basic tilt rom with some preformance tweaks added? I'm to not interested in flashy, I just want good performance.
allted said:
There are SO many roms now. Definitely use the stock rom - minus the bloat- for a while and see if there's any thing you want to add.
I would like to know if anyone has a basic tilt rom with some preformance tweaks added? I'm to not interested in flashy, I just want good performance.
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Check out NATF's roms, basic AT$T without the crap and fast.
I've had my Tilt for only a couple of weeks. I bought it from a friend for only $90. He upgraded to an iPhone. What programs would you guys consider the bloat that I should get rid of to gain free space?
Bloatware is the stuff AT$T crams into their roms. Someone at AT$T thinks we want this stuff.
Taken form the wiki. With bloatware and without bloatware
AT&T ROM Standard Programs
If you are thinking of sticking with the standard ROM, but getting rid of all the bloatware, here is what you get out of the box with the AT&T ROM both before and after bypassing the (bloatware) customizations. Note this does not include any of the programs on CD that you must install afterwards.
To bypass the customization install, do a hard reset, go through the Windows Mobile initialization steps (Callibrate Screen, Cut and Paste, etc..) then do a soft reset before the AT&T customization install starts.
NOTE - This will reset your device back the the original settings, which means any programs or customization you have made will be lost, including all of your Outlook synced info.
There are several ways to get your data and customizations back including backups, and resyncing, but there are many details to this process and it is beyond the scope of this topic. Your best bet is to decide upfront if you want the Bloatware and move forward from there. To help you decide, here is what you get under the Bloatware/Non Bloatware setups. Keep in mind that many of the programs included as Bloatware are trials, and if there are some you think you may want, you can usually find a link to them somewhere on the forum.
AT&T menu tree after full customization (Bloatware) install
Media Net Home
AT&T Mall
* Shop Tones
* Shop Games
* Shop Graphics
* Shop Multimedia
* Shop Applications
* Media Net Home
AT&T Music
* Music Player (Shortcut to WMP)
* Shop Music (Link to Internet Store)
* Music ID
* Streaming Music (XM Radio Demo)
* The Buzz (Music News form Billboard - Trial)
* Community (Link Failed over Wifi)
* Music Video (Link Failed over Wifi)
Games & Apps
* Brain Challenge
* Bubble Breaker
* Get ?TelNav (Not sure why this is under games)
* Jewel Quest 2
* Midnight Pool (Crashed when I tried to start it)
* ?MobiTV
* Ms Pacman Demo by Namco
* My Cast - Requires Airtime
* My Space Demo
* Shop Games
* Solitaire
* Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007 Demo (Java Based and small)
Messaging
* Get Blackberry Connect (Link to site. Install went fine. Don't have BB account though)
* Instant Messenger (OZ? Can connect to AOL, MS or Yahoo)
* Messaging
Pictures and Videos
Tools
* Proxy Manager
* Adobe Reader LE
* Bluetooth Explorer
* Calculator
* Camera
* File Explorer
* Java
* ?QuickGPS
* Search
* SIM Manager
* Sprite Back Up
* Voice Recorder (HTC V 1.10 (Build 611.711)
* Voice Speed Dial
* Zip
Active Sync
Cellular Video (We are temporarily experiencing technical difficulties)
Notes
Push to Talk
Windows Media
Tasks
Memory Usage
Program In Use 26.77
Storage In Use 27.74
AT&T menu tree after bypassing customization (Bloatware) install with soft reset
Pictures and Video
Active Sync
Notes
Push to Talk
Windows Media
Games
* Bubble Breaker
* Solitaire
Adobe Reader LE
Bluetooth Explorer
Calculator
Camera
Comm Manager (Old Wizard Style)
File Explorer
Internet Sharing
Java
?QuickGPS
?RealPlayer
Search
SIM Manager
Sprite Backup
Tasks
Voice Recorder
Voice Speed Dial
Zip
Memory Usage
Program In Use 28.02
Storage In Use 10.12 You save 17.62 Mb in storage space,
im riding on the hyperdragon roms. They're pretty nice visually and the touch flow is nice on the fingers. Another alternative is to find a fast rom and load up SPB mobile shell which just runs on top of your rom but works nice for navigation. then again you probably know about the mobile shell so i'd recommend hyperdragon.
Downloading the newest Hyperdragon rom right now. Will it work with TMobile after i install this rom??
hmmm thats a good question. The service with T-mobile might coincide with the radio that the rom installs. Maybe you can cross-check your old radio with radios that work with the new Hyperdragon rom.
or flash a suitable radio that fits both requirments. maybe someone more knowledgabe will reply as well. lol
haha yeah im gonna read some wikis so i will know whats going on. Flashing the Wing was easy. I have tried twice now with the tilt and im not getting anywhere. Stays on 0% then i have to take the battery out.
im just curious isnt the t-mobile wing that new phone with google andriod? isnt it supposed to be really good? alot of people here have spent time trying to mimic is operating system on the tilt.
its just my opinion but i think the tilt is overrated, i've had it for about 6 months.
The Wing is prolly 2 years old now. The new Google phone is simply called the G1. Im starting to think im just going to sell the tilt and upgrade to the G1.
Ok, I see a lot of customisation done here, so I think it's time to make a rom based on user requests. Of course, please don't ask for headset, BT, SD, wifi, this will of course be added when found.
Just post what kind of rom you would like, and we will try to find a list of good programs to include.
Criteria are: small programs, specially usefull, and (possibly) free to use in a rom.
Adding as much as possible in a rom is counter productive, as it grabs more storage space than installing the cab afterward.
My guess is that programs should be in the following categories:
GPS aid tools
Phone aid tools
Today plugin tools
Memory and system managment tools
Core functionality
Default settings
The following post will compile what has been selected. Rom will be created when enough input is aquired. Requests can be done for removal also (like games for example)
now fire your requests
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To me it is sufficient that there was an application that gives me the opportunity to do everything with your fingers. Without using the scrollbar. As in Mr gullum ROM. Thanks for this opportunity to express your wishes.
thaihugo said:
Ok, I see a lot of customisation done here, so I think it's time to make a rom based on user requests. Of course, please don't ask for headset, BT, SD, wifi, this will of course be added when found.
Just post what kind of rom you would like, and we will try to find a list of good programs to include.
Criteria are: small programs, specially usefull, and (possibly) free to use in a rom.
Adding as much as possible in a rom is counter productive, as it grabs more storage space than installing the cab afterward.
My guess is that programs should be in the following categories:
GPS aid tools
Phone aid tools
Today plugin tools
Memory and system managment tools
Core functionality
Default settings
The following post will compile what has been selected. Rom will be created when enough input is aquired. Requests can be done for removal also (like games for example)
now fire your requests
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ClearTemp v1.2 (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/cleartemp.shtml)
would like....
i would like one that has only the phone, text messages, touchflo (if possible) and GPS, for everything else we have the Vista side like office, messenger and any other app we could possibly want.
botton line the less you put in it the faster it will be and still leave room to install any other app an specific user may want.
just my 2 cents.
BTW great work we are all very thankfull for all your hard work and that goes to cmonex and the rest of your team.
thanks
Call firewall and what you have listed chat of some type (I use yahoo)
i would love to have a ROM based on MANILA or POINT UI or throttle launcher.
i know that there is not much space. but it can be done ( for some resone it works slow..)
please, im willing to donate ( again!!) to the one that will creat that kind of ROM. ( no need for SnupVue...or Office..
10x!
Your current rom is almost perfect. Everybody can install the programs they want. Only I would like have speaker phone forced on like iOO did in his rom and those three themes can be replaced with just one black snapvue theme. And also it should be possible to soft reset from wm side so you dont have to start vista to do that.
Less is more
Actually I would like to see more stripped out all non-essential files/ anything to make more room for programs and data!
I see you put the HTC tools in there, but with the exception of USBTool,RealVGA and cab install support - I wonder how many times I will fire up GPS Debugging...
There maybe some housecleaning opportunities in the Windows Directory (temp files and other such....)
A good screen rotation utility would be nice - I use Mobipocket for WM for reading ebooks and it also has the nice side effect of rotating the WinMo display (if you rotate the display within MobiPocket it keeps the WinMo display rotated after you exit the reader) *** side note to ask MobiPocket to enable rotation in the desktop version of their tool (funny that they didn't think to put it in there - if enough people harangue them from this forum maybe?) - which I also have running on the Vista side and it sets my teeth on edge to know that i can't rotate the display...grrr.... ****
So I am ok on the screen rotation - but maybe others dont want to install Mobipocket........
Anything that would help battery life -- power miser settings set as default in most things that you might otherwise have to configure --
Lean and mean........
thanks for the current state - which rocks!
Shame on HTC for crippling such a neat device.
regards
Sudipta
I'm registering all requests and also lean on to a clean rom.
lean for me too
first, thanks to all the ROM cooks. i have tried almost all of them and am now using thaihugo's latest. i haven't had this much fun configuring and reconfiguring a machine since installing Slackware 1.1 in 1994.
what a sad loser, i am. well, insomniac anyway.
i'd like a really lean ROM because i like to install my own selection of stuff: pocketxpdf, tcpmp. quickmenu, putty. i don't even need Activesync or the built in e-mail client and calendar. for me, it would be great if anything that i could easily install myself was left out.
Is it possible to include 800X480 resolution driver to fully utilize the screen. Thank you very much!
I've followed your requests here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495143
wow, fast.. Maybe a easy way, to customize your ROM with standard European language packs.
(french, italia, german, spain,..
I Would prefer a ROM BASE on WinMo 6.1 as UDK's rom was cause it worked fine with haret.
I Woud like a complete Rom With:
- GPS Fix
- QuickGPS
- Phonestuff enabled
- Google Maps (if you have it working with GPS)
- Opera
- TouchFlo (if possible =)
Apps: (prefered as cabs to install them when needed)
- IM Slick
- Mobile Office
- Total Commander
- Finger Keyboard (If it will will work)
- GoogleMaps
- Adobe Reader
I liked your roms but they wont work with haret.
So hopefully will work in future !
joy.d said:
wow, fast.. Maybe a easy way, to customize your ROM with standard European language packs.
(french, italia, german, spain,..
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thanks for your great work
i'll test "age of beauty" asap, all the progs included are great
As joy.d said a french rom will be great
for me i just need to add pocket informant but its commercial so i'll add by myself
dont know if others want but i like realvga 96dpi on the shift's screen
thanks agian
SnapVue Cab
What I really want (and have no clue how to do) is the SnapVue as a today plugin cab.
Love your Light ROM (it is my current one). However, I love SnapVue as a concept also. Some things to think about/fix (?):
-The clock allows you to open it to the alarms and Time Zones (I am using a plug in similar to the SnapVue Clock/Calender)
-The "Settings" button is remapped to programs OR opens a shortcut tab for key programs (customisable)
-The Plugin does not "steal" all the real estate. Currently it covers the scroll bar so you can not add other plugin above or below it. This is very irritating (particularly for me who has several plugins).
Currently, I can only get SnapVue (with other ROMS) to work with other plug-ins if I use RealVGA. However, using RealVGA then stops my spb Travel Assistant working (don't understand why).
Food for thought
Cheers
even lighter if possible!
I am using Age of Reason, and it is fantastic - I now even have space to store a bit of my own audio and video. I have also just installed the new YouTube WM application from m.youtube.com which works but has very jerky motion.
I am using TCPMP, so have no use for WMP. I also do not use ActiveSync, so if that was optional, it would save me some space (as well as having to kill it from time to time).
I still think that any item that is available in a simple CAB install might as well be left out, unless it takes up less space by burning it into the ROM.
Thanks again for all your efforts.
Matthew
matthew.karas said:
I am using Age of Reason, and it is fantastic - I now even have space to store a bit of my own audio and video. I have also just installed the new YouTube WM application from m.youtube.com which works but has very jerky motion.
I am using TCPMP, so have no use for WMP. I also do not use ActiveSync, so if that was optional, it would save me some space (as well as having to kill it from time to time).
I still think that any item that is available in a simple CAB install might as well be left out, unless it takes up less space by burning it into the ROM.
Thanks again for all your efforts.
Matthew
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Actually, removing this component will make you lose memory, so it's better to keep them. Don't ask me why, but it is this way. WMP and activesync are system components...
Need i say more? Thanks for this great ROM! Age of reason is on my shift and it works great!
I ask because I've been working on a superlite ROM for a few weeks, and while I'm all for the idea of having a ROM that is just a platform for doing things with the maximum of speed and the minimum of fuss, I don't know if you guys are. Judging by the ROMs being released and the ROMs that people rave about, it seems not. If it turns out that you guys are interested, I'll put more effort into developing and make it public as soon as I have something worthy of competing with the range here.
Let me know what you think.
And I should ask as well, my concept ROM is basically based around the premise that
1) Everything apart from basic phone functions and essentials should be optional, with the ROM being as close to a blank slate as is reasonable
2) Everything should be doable within as few button pushes as possible
3) The OS should barely even feature, so no elaborate and animations, just straight forward basic and fast functionality
That's the sort of stuff that, to me, would make a perfect ROM. What would you guys want in a lite ROM? How would you want something new to differ from the lite ROMs of old?
A lite rom always is good for speed and performance an maybe even battery life. Though you have to add t3d to it, since it's the only thing that keeps me away from digging to deep into the wimo user interface, wich is so frustrating at times.
Yeah i like the idea of a lite rom, but then it kind of makes you think what's the point in getting a phone such as the X1 if you only want it to only do things nokias could do 10 years ago! And then you have to think, what's bare minimum? just phone? but camera too? and internet? and the extra keyboards so people can use it easily? and the themes so it doesn't look crap? and then T3d so you can actually easily use it without a stylus?
Don't get me wrong i think it is an awesome idea, and would be helpful, i just think it would be incredibly hard to please everyone!
yes i like the idea too..because a lite rom is much faster than a normal and if you need something you can install it later. but in the "FULL" roms there are a lot of things that you wont use etc.
it would very nice if someone could make a lite rom from wm6.5 2303*(or higher) :$
and sorry for my english ... i am hungarian
I am very interested in a lite WM 6.5 rom which has no extra applications added and is just basic and simple 6.5. However i do agree with hyellow with the Touchflo 3d, i do like the TF3D interface, i would like a rom which is basic WM 6.5 with a simple TF3D 2 interface.
i feel like there's plenty of TF3D roms out now, incl. lite TF3D, so a rom without TF3D would be great! i agree with your point 2- as few button presses as possible, that's why i love spb pocket plus and ms3- very customisable
i'm using norti's lite rom now, and even though it hasn't been developed in a while, it's fast, stable and dependable, just how a lite rom should be. i've customised it perfectly to my needs, and although i flash interesting roms, i always go back to nortis lite
i've tried 6.5lite roms too, and all seem slower than 6.1 lites. 6.1 is my preference until 6.5 bugs/ speed improves
as for suggestions/ what i would like;
- is it possible to use 'extendir'? if it works, performance gains could be big?
- include graphics drivers of some sort
- enable UC
- optimise some programs (like opera with ramdisc)
- speed/ memory tweaks
the lite roms of old are very sound, so i don't think it need differ much, maybe just update it when new builds are released?
As you can probably tell i'm very keen for a new lite rom! So thanks for asking opinions, and good luck with it, I look forward to it!
I would thoroughly enjoy a lite rom, please share
which build are you currently using on your rom?
mobilevu also has a lite rom, although he hasn't updated in awhile (doesn't mean it isn't good!)
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Yeah i like the idea of a lite rom, but then it kind of makes you think what's the point in getting a phone such as the X1 if you only want it to only do things nokias could do 10 years ago! And then you have to think, what's bare minimum? just phone? but camera too? and internet? and the extra keyboards so people can use it easily? and the themes so it doesn't look crap? and then T3d so you can actually easily use it without a stylus?
Don't get me wrong i think it is an awesome idea, and would be helpful, i just think it would be incredibly hard to please everyone!
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Something I've got a severely bad habit of doing is writing a line in a post, and then editing it out with the intnetion of putting it back somehwere where it fits in better, but then forgetting to completely, and then finding myself wondering why people are contradicting what I said. I really have to stop it
Anyway, what I meant to put in my post was that my plan for the ROM is to bundle with it an installer app that installs apps in the same way that you'd maybe install components of something like MS Office or of a codec pack, where you just select the bits you want with a series of tickboxes, and the hit OK and wait ten minutes while the installer puts in everything you want. So, in its default state, the ROM would come simply with enough to do just phone, sms, and phonebook, and everything else would be an optional extra, camera and internet and the like inclusive. There'd actually be some pretty nifty advantages to doing it that way, since besides the obvious speed advantage, it'd mean that you'd be able to more-or-less customise the ROM to use whatever components you like. ie, it might all look like this:
--- Camera app
[ ] Omit
[o] Rhodium R3A cam (fastest load times)
[ ] HTC cam (slower to load, tap autofocus)
[ ] Made-up 3rd party camera app (etc)
--- Internet Browser
[ ] None
[x] Iris
[x] Opera 9.7b with onscreen keyboard
[ ] Opera 9.7b without onscreen keyboard
[x] Internet Explorer
--- Media Players
[x] None
[ ] Windows Media Player
[ ] Nitro
And so on, if that makes any sense. The other big advantage to doing it that way would be that apps wouldn't have to be bundled with the ROM, which means far less frequent ROM updates needed. Just the installer bundle app might need an update maybe once every few weeks or so, and then all's cool.
But it's all pretty much theory, curiosities, and pages of my notepad right now with only some basic rough builds knocked together, so I want to hear more thoughts from yourself and everyone else.
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I am very interested in a lite WM 6.5 rom which has no extra applications added and is just basic and simple 6.5. However i do agree with hyellow with the Touchflo 3d, i do like the TF3D interface, i would like a rom which is basic WM 6.5 with a simple TF3D 2 interface.
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Personally, I can't stand TF3D. I still don't understand why it's so popular, but then, I'm not going to argue with you guys, and I'll put the graft in and aim make it an option on the installer app for you.
I read people discusing TF3D. If you want to built a lite rom you don't wanna put TF3D in it. i have currently wm6.5. and did som ram usage tests with home screens.
if you use TF3D the ram usage at cold start is 50% (that is very high for me)
the standard wm6.5 home is arround 36% ram usage
and if you don't use any home plugin (the old way) the ram usage is around 34%
so i suggest if its gonna be a wm6.5 lite version stick with the wm6.5 home.
And use R3 software from kovsky itself not to much from rhodium. the only things i like from fhodium are the volume control and the top bar tap that shows info. the rest isn't needed. for browser take the standard opera that comes with x1 for the zoom with volume buttons it makes zooming much easiyer. and don't put any extra software let users install there own software.
things that could be removed:
1. messenger
2. Windows live
3. widgets
4. IE
Try to not remove to much base software that makes the phone unstable and some functionalitys don't work anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547502
as per the above thread it seems 6.1 is the way to go still. the screenshots i've seen of the new 6.5 builds look good with the 'ok' button at the bottom, but 6.5 seems a step back. the start menu is just horrible, and the home screen doesn't make much sense to me.
i just flashed jack's rom, it's ram usage is 26%, and 29% with mobile shell 3, which isn't bad
the installer app is an excellent idea, that would top UC
for me what i'd like in a rom is manila default (remove titanium)
with panels
thats it...
maybe latest opera 9.7b with all the links in manila fixed up ^^
Personally,
I like just basic fuctionality (usual stable base) and a choice of Touch Flo or Titanium, because at the end of the day, we can get a cab file for everything else cant we? Microsoft MyPhone for online backup/sms or PimBackup or Sprite?
Google maps, facebook, opera, clean ram, iPlayer, and even windows live, why bloat the rom with software that many people dont use?
I like windows media player, but apart from that, i like having to install only what i need to a rom. Also, specifically to the Xperia X1, why do some ROM's have finger keyboard? We have a keyboard! lol, and if the Rom is good enough, screen rotation is pretty instant.
Also, with less programs included, we can install more to the card, leaving more free space on the phone.
note sometimes if core files are removed... the .cab install file wont work
have noted some roms having issues with wlmessenger because it was removed completely...
i got 2 kind of phone.. 1 is for daily call n sms.. xperia is for multi tasking.. so, my xperia never install lite rom b4 wan..sorry..
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Personally, I can't stand TF3D. I still don't understand why it's so popular, but then, I'm not going to argue with you guys, and I'll put the graft in and aim make it an option on the installer app for you.
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I think that manila makes WM much more interesting and is a good interface to have on top of WM. I suppose when you come to releasing the rom you can release two versions, one with manila and one without manila.
@therealreddavid
no pressure(!), but how's progress on the rom going?
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And I should ask as well, my concept ROM is basically based around the premise that
1) Everything apart from basic phone functions and essentials should be optional, with the ROM being as close to a blank slate as is reasonable
2) Everything should be doable within as few button pushes as possible
3) The OS should barely even feature, so no elaborate and animations, just straight forward basic and fast functionality
That's the sort of stuff that, to me, would make a perfect ROM. What would you guys want in a lite ROM? How would you want something new to differ from the lite ROMs of old?
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Oh and put in 'extendir' and the 3d drivers/tweaks
just STRIP EVERY THING that isnt neccesarry we can find our cabs if needed
I am big fan of lite builds! I rather have base OS on which needed apps can be added. For example I don't like TF3D that much, I am bigger fan of the Titanium interface (seems lighter too).
The ideal rom for me would consist of the base which WM has + some extra stuff like dev certs, .NET3.5, Java VM. And everything else is add-able by a CAB file.
I am eager to see the ROM you are working on!
So, I've decided to reflash my Xperia after I played with some of the settings and managed to make the whole thing really slow, choppy and buggy. There's nothing wrong with the device, I've just messed things up a bit. Nothing to worry, I'm not a newbie with stuff like this, just a bit over-enthusiastic and overconfident at times.
So, to the point, I'm looking for better alternatives to the ROM and software I already have. I'll give you a quick run-down of the stuff I have, the stuff I love and the stuff I never use with my Xperia.
The stuff I have:
-SEX1 R3.61 Barebone ROM (and all the apps et al that came with it) with SEX1cons F v3
-SPB Mobile Shell 3.x (the newest one ATM with the Weather widget)
-G-Alarm
-Opera Mobile (newest Beta)
-Opera Mini
-Pocket Player
-Google Maps
-VistaHide Battery Gauge
-Some YouTube stuff I would use if they worked properly (which they don't, partially thanks to me)
The stuff I love:
-The SPB Mobile Shell above all else. If someone would make a ROM based on the Shell alone, I would flash my Xperia with it immediately. It's got the most conventional interface in any operating system I've ever come across. I just love it.
-G-Alarm. Never has waking up been so easy. (OK, it's still not easy, but at least I do get up nowadays. )
-The conversation-style SMS
-The both Opera browsers (when they work, which is less often than I'd like)
-The tweaked camera of the SEX1 ROM
-Google Maps. I've lost count how many times I would have lost without it.
-The "notes" function.
-Messenger
-The music and video playing capabilities of the device (regardless of programs. I use Pocket Player out of habit and WMP for video playback because the PP can't handle videos all that well)
-VistaHide Battery Gauge & the fancy SEX1cons
The stuff I never use and would like to get rid off or at least hide/disable somehow:
-All the GPS garbage. QuickGPS etc. I have no GPS devices and I'm not about to buy any. Google Maps is more than enough for me.
-E-Mail. I use E-Mail so seldom anyway, I haven't even bothered to set up an account on my Xperia.
-Panels. They were fun in the beginning, but nowadays I prefer apps to panels. I don't even remember when was the last time I pressed the "X Panel"-button on purpose. Not useless, but unnecessary to me as I never use them anyway.
So, the thing I'm asking is what would be the best choices for a new ROM and whether there's some software I should consider adding or replacing some of my old apps with? For me, a ROM is just something to install SPB Mobile Shell over, so there's no need for a fancy interface or loads of apps or anything. Just the bare essentials; a fast and stable ROM plus some of the basic apps (calculator et al I seldom use, but couldn't live without). I'm not a conservatist, so I'm not afraid to abandon any of the stuff I have for something better if there is.
Also, as I obviously have to backup my PIM data, do most of the backup apps out there function correctly with the conversation-style SMS messaging?
Give me a hand here, guys, I know your collective brainpower and knowledge far exceeds mine, that's why I asked you in the first place. Thanks in advance of any tips, suggestions etc. you could give me.
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Hey, if I wouldn't need the help I wouldn't have asked. It's a sign of respect, you know? That I trust in your knowledge? You don't need to answer to anything. Even small opinions and pieces of information are more than welcome.
I recently flashed my X1i, tbh it was piss easy, just install hardspl and copy the image to ur SD card!
I would suggest trying EnergyRom, or if u need Jack's 4.x full if u need asian language support
SPB Mobile shell 2.0 is was my favourite, but that was easily replaced by Touchflo3d!
The rest of the apps u listed u can easily install afterwards.
btw there's an entire forum section dedicated to X1 ROM's, so u're prob posting in the wrong place
As I told, I'm not a newbie with this stuff. It's pretty dang easy, it's just that as you guys've been here longer than I, you naturally know more about the different ROMs and software than I do. I'm not asking you how to flash or anything, I'm asking you which ROM would best suite my needs and whether or not I should replace some of the apps I've been using so far with something better.
I took a quick look at the EnergyRom and if the author knows his stuff (which it seems), it seems like a cool pile-o'-bytes. I'll take it into consideration.
The rest of the apps u listed u can easily install afterwards.
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Yup, I know. If you read my post through, I just asked you people for possible better alternatives for the apps I've been using so far. I know how to install stuff and anything.
btw there's an entire forum section dedicated to X1 ROM's, so u're prob posting in the wrong place
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I was thinking that, too, but then decided to post here as I'm not specifically talking about ROMs alone, but the whole device's software in general.
I agree with Mjollnir1983, jackleung's "Jack V4.x Lite" would most likely be a good choice for you. I also agree that Touch Flo 3D is better the SPB Mobile Shell, but that's your personal choice. If you wanted to try TF3D, "Jack V4.x Medium" would be a good combination of a clean rom and TF3D. I personally like agent_47's "Valkyrie v3.x FireStorm", because it is has TF3D and is a fast rom with some useful apps. However it may have to many apps for you. If you decide you like agent_47's roms, then "Xperio" might work out alright. It doesn't have TF3D, but still has some good HTC stuff that makes it look better and is a more clean rom than firestorm. Links are bellow. Also I thought I would mention that QuickGPS is something you might want to keep, because it helps Google Maps get a satellite lock quicker. It doesn't always work great, but their are some fixes if your having problems with it.
Jack V4.x Lite / Medium
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543073
Valkyrie v3.x FireStorm / Xperio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
I tried the TouchFLO 3D on my friend's cell and it seemed okay after a short while of getting used to. Not that different from SPB Mobile Shell and no disadvantages whatsoever compared to it. I'll give it a shot. Thanks a million, guys.
Now, the biggest question is whether or not there's a PIM backup app available that works correctly with the conversation-style SMS. (At the moment every time I restore a backup, it only restores the messages I've sent, not received. It's the messaging app itself that is responsible, cos I've tried several backup apps.) Is there, or is it just the messaging app I've tried to tweak that is responsible?
About the other apps... Well, I'll do some research myself. I'll probably stick with at least some of them for a while.
Um... I don't know man, there are thousands of apps. I think ROMs are down to personal preference and you should just try many of them to find the best one for you. From the top of my head:
Pocket Music - best music player IMHO.
SkyFire - nice broswer for flash heavy sites.
HTC mp3 trimmer WVGA - perfect for making your own ringtones.
SKTools, advanced config and xperia tweak - best tune up software there is.
SPB Online - online games, radio and TV.
MyMobiler - lets you control the X1 from your PC.
Innobec Side Window - use the X1 as a secondary screen for your PC.
Resco Explorer and Photo Viewer.
SPB Weather
SPB Insight - RSS feeds.
HTorch - pocket flashlight.
WinMobileTorrent
Core Player - best player for every video file except mp4 (use WMP for that).
MS Reader - E-Book reader.
Skype mobile
MorphGear - perfecr emulator for every old game possible.
WK Task - best task manager/launcher/x button.
Homescreen ++ - lets you check your temp, cpu speed, ram usage and more, directly on your homescreen. You can havega taskbar launcher as well. This app is a must.
There are many more, but you have to be more specific about what you want.
Cheers
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The stuff I never use and would like to get rid off or at least hide/disable somehow:
-All the GPS garbage. QuickGPS etc. I have no GPS devices and I'm not about to buy any. Google Maps is more than enough for me.
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You have the internal GPS of the Xperia!!!
Google maps use A-GPS need data connection to work. The normal GPS is free (exception of software and maps).
@orelsi: Thanks, I'll take a look at those shortly.
kremlincrackers: The more you know...
Thanks a lot, I wasn't aware of that at all. That means I should keep the QuickGPS, then.
EDIT: I started flashing the Jack V4.x Medium ROM. Let's see what this thing's capable of...
What you're looking for is a similar version of what I have,
You could have any light/fast ROM, I prefer to use a tweaked ROM with cache and memory enhancements. At present I am using WM 6.5 but it's even more stable with 6.1
Then SPB Shell 3, as for applications adn in addition:
- Removed X Panels and remapped panel key to Resco Explorer.
- TOMTOM this is essential, if you wish not to spend money on it there are some free alternatives, although not as good.
- Resco Explorer and Registry editor
- SBP Television, Insight, Snapshot and Imageer.
- My Mobiler
- Finger Keyboard
- World Card Mobile
- Rhodium Dialer
Cumps
Okay, fellas, thanks for the help!
I tried the ROMs mentioned above, but finally settled for the awesome Touch X ULTIMATE X-TREME 10.1 Original Green which was suggested to me by a friend of mine. I can't praise it enough. I've used 8-12 ROMs (including big names like Valkyrie, Touch-IT and SEX1 R3) in the past and it's ultimately the fastest and most stable of them. As long as it keeps running as well as it is ATM, I seriously doubt I'll ever change the ROM again. The only tweaks I had to make were adding a Programs-tab to the TF3D and removing all the Panel Manager stuff while rebinding the panel key to Pocket Player.
Give it a shot, guys. You might fall in love just like I did.
http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/index.php
Register, participate and enjoy the most stable bug-free winmo 6.5 in my opinion.
Clean and ready to customize at owner's discretion.
Hi all,
Here I am again with an updated version of the MadROM. As this is a quite big update -and the ROM got a new name-, I started a new thread. I hope you all will like it. Currently I have a NLD (0413) one and a WWE (0409) version available. I'm not planning to make other languages too at this moment.
Features (compared to a stock 1.36.x ROM)
Removed stuff
* Facebook application - You can get the newest version in the Marketplace if you want to.
* CoPilot Trial - It's just a trial, not worth wasting disk space.
* Google Maps - You can get the newest version in the Marketplace if you want to.
* JBlend - I think almost nobody uses Java apps that are originally designed for old Nokia's on a WM Phone.
* OOBE - You just use it once, after hard reset. Not worth it.
* RDP Mobile - Just too little screen to handle a real desktop.
* Sample music - Just copy your own music.
* MyPhone - MS should not put backup stuff on our phones. I want to choose myself.
* Themes - I like the default HTC Black theme, and if you don't, XDA is full of themes
* Opera 9.7 - Don't worry it has been replaced, see further in this post.
Added stuff
* Opera Mobile 10
Tweaked
* Uses Windows build 23152 instead of 23103. This means:
* . Office 2010 instead of 2007
* . Faster Windows Mobile build
* Manila now supports CFC, which makes it faster and less disk space consuming
To Do list
* Speed the whole thing up using Extendir (currently working on this)
* Remove default Ringtones and Wallpapers (will be available as a cab file for those who want them)
* Rearrange the Start Menu
* Let Opera 10 rotate auto (G-sensor)
* Get AZERTY keyboard with Dutch word library.
Did I miss your request? Just post in this thread
Download
NLD
* 2.00 Download
WWE
* 2.00 Download
How to flash
You can use the SSPL method to flash the NBH file to your device. This is explained in this thread. Any problems in the flashing process should be posted there too and not here, as this are not ROM-related problems.
Screenshots
Screenshots can be found below in the attachments
Misc
F.A.Q.
Q: The Manila flip clock is always on the wrong time and then flips to correct time when I go to home screen?
A: This is sort of "feature" built in by HTC. Can't help it.
Q: MadMatt Mini ROM has no boot sound?
A: No, but you can enable it if you want to. Just edit this registry key:
Code:
[HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAnimation\]
"StartupWav"="\\Windows\\HTC-QuitelyBrilliantBoot.wav"
Q: What is OOBE? You removed it, but what is it?
A: OOBE is that little wizard you go through when you hard reset your phone. It's there where you set your location settings, time, sync settings and so on. Actually, it's useless, as you can set all those settings in the settings menu too.
Compared
Just a little comparision with the 1.36.x stock ROM. Remember, the values on your device can differ a little bit. However RAM total and ROM free should be the same after first boot.
Code:
MADMATT MINI STOCK ROM
ROM FREE 228,54MB 163,15MB
RAM AVAILABLE 300,92MB 297,92MB
RAM IN USE +/- 165MB 179,96MB
RAM FREE +/- 135MB 117,96MB
Thanks to
I'd like to thank following XDA members, because without their tools, my ROM would either have not existed or have not had that extra touch.
- Cotulla for making SSPL for our device.
- Chainfire for inventing and making the whole CFC system, and giving a tutorial on how to patch Manila manually for Sense 2.5.x
- Barin for his very nice OSBuilder.
Donations
Donations are always appreciated and of course stimulate me to keep on developing this ROM. Don't worry, I don't really need it to survive. However, I would like to have the full version of OSBuilder, so I can make a even better ROM for you guys! Just click the "Donate to me" button under my name.
DISCLAIMER: Usage of this ROM should not damage or affect any data on your device or the device itself. However, I'm not responsible for damage of any kind caused by flashing, using or whatever you did with this ROM.
Copyright notice: It's strictly forbidden to make changes of any kind to my ROM (e.g. by dumping and rebuilding it).
Changelog
06 feb 2010
Code:
- Added a WWE version. However, this still needs to be done:
- Rearrange start menu
- Let Opera 10 auto-rotate
05 feb 2010
Code:
- Uploaded the files. However, this still needs to be done:
- Rearrange start menu
- Let Opera 10 auto-rotate
01 feb 2010
Code:
- Initial post here on the forums.
Can't wait !
Could you also remove some or most default wallpapers, sounds and ringtones? They take up useless space.
And what about the pagepool? Do you keep it default?
And maybe you could also intergrated PIMbackup. Since it's the easyest and fastest way to transfer all you phone data.
I see that you have competition from nsourm, he also released a NLD rom.
I'm still loyal to you.
maybe you should also include resco explorer or total commander and this taskmanager
looking forward to it and will try as soon as it's available ^^
sharky48 said:
Can't wait !
Could you also remove some or most default wallpapers, sounds and ringtones? They take up useless space.
And what about the pagepool? Do you keep it default?
And maybe you could also intergrated PIMbackup. Since it's the easyest and fastest way to transfer all you phone data.
I see that you have competition from nsourm, he also released a NLD rom.
I'm still loyal to you.
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First of all, thanks you're loyal Removing wallpapers is a good idea, I don't use them too
About the pagepool: it is 12MB, and as you can see, that's 3mb less than default because we have 3mb extra RAM.
Rastaman2302 said:
maybe you should also include resco explorer or total commander and this taskmanager
looking forward to it and will try as soon as it's available ^^
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Total Commander is a good idea PIMBackup, I just put it on my SDCard and run it from there as it works perfectly standalone. And I'll take a look at the task mgr
with the task manager you can replace/copy/etc some files in directories sealed off by winmo and you can edit registries and stuff, so it's maybe not that interesting for most average users, but i've found it to be usefull
can't wait to try mate, will be following this up close
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with the task manager you can replace/copy/etc some files in directories sealed off by winmo and you can edit registries and stuff, so it's maybe not that interesting for most average users, but i've found it to be usefull
can't wait to try mate, will be following this up close
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I downloaded the Task Mgr, and I have to say I didn't like it. When I select an option, my device blocked completely So, I will not implement it
yes I had that problem too at first, but there's a working version for the mini, it's somewhere on the forum
I'll have a look and when I find it, I'll let you know
tbh I think it's of more use to you and I wouldn't include it in the rom cause it's a bit overwhelming for most users
edit: take a look in this post (it's also the post that helped me disable the htc texting app), it says to use fdcsoft task manager3.1 and that one works On the site there's a newer version, but that one made my phone freeze too (sorry forgot to mention that..) but this one works just fine
Rastaman2302 said:
yes I had that problem too at first, but there's a working version for the mini, it's somewhere on the forum
I'll have a look and when I find it, I'll let you know
tbh I think it's of more use to you and I wouldn't include it in the rom cause it's a bit overwhelming for most users
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Yup, thanks for the tip anyway
ROM uploaded!
Things that are high on my to-do-list:
- Rearrange start menu
- Autorotate Opera
- XDA_UC? Would that be interesting? Give your opinion!
can you post any screenshots?
downloading now
johnsk said:
can you post any screenshots?
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Have been added in first post.
Rastaman2302 said:
downloading now
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Good luck! Let me know how you like/dislike it
Any ETA for the WWE? I can't wait to try it
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Any ETA for the WWE? I can't wait to try it
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WWE version will follow. I'm working on it ETA is Greece, isn't it? I'll keep it on a NLD and WWE If I make too much languages, support will take to much time and will be a fail
ETA=Estimating Time of Arrival
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ETA=Estimating Time of Arrival
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Oh, didn't know that
Well, no, I have no idea when a WWE will be ready. It's quite much work to do in very less spare time...
ok my friend no problem Take your time!
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"Too much languages", will kill you..! [Queen]
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If I make too much languages, support will take to much time and will be a fail
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Good thinking!