No matter what I try!
I got a new XDA Stellar from the O2 network in the UK, I can use Google Maps (although it says im a few streets away from my current location) and can go on the internet with it fine, just cant get a signal on TomTom
I have tried using 'Other NMEA Receiver', 4800 Baud and COM4 but it still doesn't work, I have also tried choosing all the other baud rates, leaving it in my back garden for hours at a time but it will not get a signal, tried uninstalling Tomtom and reinstalling it, all the phones GPS settings are set to default. I have installed a program called GPSGate which finds a GPS signal and locks on to it but still the Tomtom doesn't work
I am starting to think that it may be the ROM/Radio that needs upgrading but I am reluctant to do so as it's a company mobile and I wouldn't want anything to go wrong during the process, also I am from the UK and I haven't seen many ROM's from users in the UK
Please help!
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Im stumped. I upgraded the rom, and tried 3 different programs, and none can even get a single satellite, after about 10 minutes in a pretty open space.
TomTom detects GPS on COM9, and it says "No Valid GPS signal" (Instead of no GPS device if its changed to another port) while it keeps searching.
PocketStreets tells me "the communication (COM) port is available but no signal is being received. Make sure the GPS receiver is turned on and connected to the correct port".
My GPS program port is set to GPD8, Hardware Port to COM9 and Baud rate to 115200.
try these setting in your gps settings
hardware port: none
gps program port: com9
baudrate: 4800
and same for tt
worked for me (default didn't)
Nope, that didnt work either.
try disabling incoming beams
Wire64 said:
try disabling incoming beams
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Not sure what that was suppose to do... but it didn't help.
Are you by any chance located in the downtown core? I have an upgraded htc 3600 and it works really well in the GTA, well the east side of gta anyway(from toronto center to durham region). But sometimes I am having trouble getting signal at the downtown core, university and elm, bay and dundas, union station, etc...
I'm out in Vancouver, and having set the GPS up today I find it to be fantastic - first experience with a GPS device and it works wonderfully.
I'm using iGuidance, and it shows me routinely with 6 or 7 out of 9 satellites.
Im in the west end, right by high park. I was also downtown, and had no luck there either.
So the internal GPS is one of the primary reasons I wanted the Kaiser, but when it comes down to it, it's the rare occasion that I actually use the GPS for much, especially stuff outside of basic "where am I" and "how do I get there" with gmaps...
Even when using quickgps, sometimes when I need to know where I am in relation to somewhere I'm going, quickly, it can still take way too long to pick up sat signals. I was in the car with a friend the other night (this is a guy that I constantly harass for having an iPhone (and he harasses me for the opposite)) and when we both pulled out our phones with gmaps, he knew right where we were, instantly, while all I could do was sit there and try my hardest to not make excuses about why I wasn't picking up a sat signal quickly.
Unless I'm using other GPS software, for my uses with gmaps, I'd really rather just be able to use the triangulation that non-GPS phones use. I tried turning off the GPS (GPS program port: None) in settings, but gmaps just searches anyway, not finding any hardware and/or sats.
Is what I want to do possible? I'm sure I'll get several responses on how I can speed up my sat signal pickup, which is NOT what I'm looking for. I just want to be able to use gmaps "My Location" without using the internal GPS, thus saving battery as well as getting a quicker pickup on where I am...
TIA
Geo
Yes, what your asking for is just using "My Location" without GPS. I use "My Location" all the time it does not activate my GPS. Here is an article that confirms "My Location" does not use GPS.
http://gigaom.com/2007/11/28/google-my-location/
-McMex
mcmexican said:
Yes, what your asking for is just using "My Location" without GPS. I use "My Location" all the time it does not activate my GPS. Here is an article that confirms "My Location" does not use GPS.
http://gigaom.com/2007/11/28/google-my-location/
-McMex
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I know that My Location can be used without GPS, I'm just wondering if it's possible on a Kaiser. Assuming you have a Kaiser device, what and how do you have it set up so that gmaps doesn't activate/use GPS, but instead uses the cell towers?
On my device using GoogleMaps 2.0.0.11 the option for My Location works separately from Use GPS. The location (within 1.7KM) is picked up within seconds, GPS does take longer but is accurate to individual rooms within my home. The Cell based locator is obviously dependent on your Carriers Cell towers and I know in the past I have been unable to get a location over HSDPA or 3G but GPRS worked. Now though on TMobile UK at home I can get my cell based location using any non Wifi data connection.
Smack! Smack!
wizzzard said:
On my device using GoogleMaps 2.0.0.11 the option for My Location works separately from Use GPS. The location (within 1.7KM) is picked up within seconds, GPS does take longer but is accurate to individual rooms within my home. The Cell based locator is obviously dependent on your Carriers Cell towers and I know in the past I have been unable to get a location over HSDPA or 3G but GPRS worked. Now though on TMobile UK at home I can get my cell based location using any non Wifi data connection.
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Ah, my apologies. Turns out I was not using the latest version. I've installed v2 with separate GPS/My Location, and My Location without GPS works great!
Thanks to all.
bananachunks said:
I know that My Location can be used without GPS, I'm just wondering if it's possible on a Kaiser. Assuming you have a Kaiser device, what and how do you have it set up so that gmaps doesn't activate/use GPS, but instead uses the cell towers?
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By default My Location DOES NOT use GPS. You have to enable GPS from the menu.
Yes I have a Kaiser (actually 2at&t Tilts) and use Google Maps (v2.0.0.12)
kyphur said:
By default My Location DOES NOT use GPS. You have to enable GPS from the menu.
Yes I have a Kaiser (actually 2at&t Tilts) and use Google Maps (v2.0.0.12)
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Yes, I found this out by installing the latest Google Maps (after my last ROM flash, I installed gmaps from a cab I already had on sd, which was apparently not a recent version).
Thank you - I love the fact that I can use gmaps without GPS now for the quick "where am I" without having to wait, but can still use GPS when I feel like it, and also still have it enabled in Settings for use in other GPS programs.
Thanks again
Hi was in vodafone shop yesterday, looking at v1615 and got talking about GPS. I assumed that mobile GPS involves phone and software and thats all spending done the guy in the shop said that GPS involves connection hence a data charge, is this true and what approx is the average data charge.
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Marc
GPS itself does not use the cellular radio. If you get a standalone GPS app, there is no data charge. You can confirm this if you want by turning off the phone, wifi, and bluetooth radios, then using GPS. If you use the App included on the AT&T tilt, this application connects to the internet to download map data, and you will be charged for data. Applications like Garmin XT, or many other available applications do not use data connections at all.
Jozer99, Do you have any reccommended GPS software for the kaiser?
The most common seem to be tom tom and co-pilot
tomtom and garmin...its free to use...but ur gonna have to purchase it before hand...but after that its free to use day to day
I have read a lot of GPS Threads and not seen this answer. I do not have a data plan, have MediaNet disabled, and noticed with TomTom I still got turn by turn directions.
Is there any hidden data fees hiding on th horizon for me or does the GPS function free?
TomTom does not use any data from your carrier. It gets all its data from the saved map files on your phone. I believe only Telenav uses your data connection. I am positive TomTom does not use it. It can, to download new voices or maps if you request it to, but if you disabled medianet then don't it can't.
Jeff
robseargeant said:
I have read a lot of GPS Threads and not seen this answer. I do not have a data plan, have MediaNet disabled, and noticed with TomTom I still got turn by turn directions.
Is there any hidden data fees hiding on th horizon for me or does the GPS function free?
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For a basic GPS-101 question like this, don't search this forum, search Google....for example...searching for "Is GPS free?" tells you the answer in the very first hit. The answer is... of course GPS is free. GPS is nothing more than the hardware in your Kaiser picking up the signals from the array of Global Positioning Satelites and triangulating your position from them.
You have a map in TomTom. Your Kaiser GPS picks up the signals from the Global Positioning System satelites and calculates your position and passes this information to TomTom. With TomTom knowing where you are (from GPS), where you want to go (from your selected destination), and how to get there (from the map file you downloaded for TomTom)...it has everything it needs to calculate your route and provide you turn by turn directions. There is no additional information TomTom needs so there is no internet access and therefore no data useage charges. The only time TomTom will access the internet (and therefore incur data charges) is if you use TomTom Plus services such as Traffic, Weather, Buddies, etc. But this has absolutely nothing to do with GPS.
robseargeant said:
I have read a lot of GPS Threads and not seen this answer. I do not have a data plan, have MediaNet disabled, and noticed with TomTom I still got turn by turn directions.
Is there any hidden data fees hiding on th horizon for me or does the GPS function free?
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Just to add detail: Tom Tom (version 6 at least) has 3 functions that might start a data connection but each can either be disabled or avoided:
1. There are a few Tom Tom extras that require a data connection - Tom Tom Plus.
2. There is Tom Tom Weather too and that will also begin a data connection IF you ask for weather.
3. The last feature may also be available to you. Tom Tom Traffic is another premium service BUT your software may have a demo version available - and you've guessed it - it requires a data connection.
Make sure none of these are requested (or enabled in the case if Tom Tom Traffic) and Tom Tom should NOT initiate any data calls (and unwanted charges) .
Regards
With data from network I can identify the location instantly. However, if I uncheck "Use wireless network", I have never located myself on Googles Maps. Is it a defect on the GPS?
Thanks in advance!
Google maps doesn't includes world map installed, it only store some caches.. you still need network to download map data & network based location, GPS is used for more accurate result & yes it's true p970 gps is not so good.
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Google maps doesn't includes world map installed, it only store some caches.. you still need network to download map data & network based location, GPS is used for more accurate result & yes it's true p970 gps is not so good.
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Thanks for your help! In fact, I already have cache of Google Maps, then turn off the wireless connection, to figure out the performance of the GPS alone. It sucks!
BTW, I used HTC Touch before and its GPS could identify the location very quickly.
have you test with the GPS fix (in hidden menu) ?
Actually you are wrong, GPS in very good in OB.
I used it for a trip of 700 KM and it has difficulty only the first time when it aquires a position (this is normal if you don't use AGPS) like 3-4 minutes...
On the road I turned off GPS by simply locking the screen (IGO8), and on relaunch the GPS position will not take more than 30 seconds. I don't have any data on my contract so it was purely GPS!
The first time it's normal to take a very long time because a large number of sattelites have to be aquired to for pin-point accuracy. Afterword I think it works with 2-3 visible sattelites!
My previous phone was a HTC Diamond, and it was exactly the same if I dind't used the GPS app every day that downloaded sattelites in advance.
It works but it's slow (as it should be). For me it's around 1 minute in hidden menu. Best place for testing outside hidden menu is Compass app (If you don't have data connection for maps)
For hidden menu:
1. Go into the LG hidden menu (3845#*970#)
2. Go into GPS Test
Test it (you need activated GPS of course)
if it's really slow, try this (I think it's if you use network to pinpoint but everyone is suggesting it, so I will too)
1. Go into System Settings
2. SULP Setting -> SLP Server Setting
create new:
Nokia (slp address: supl.nokia.com, port: 7275, no cert and no TLS setting)
If it still doesn't work, try other variants (LGE SUPL, Spirent, etc).
Thanks everyone!
It works now! The. GPS is quite sensitive!
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App
In the gps test in the hidden menu, there's not such option as gps fix.
Me too, I'm interested in using my gps without the assistance of the network cells. I've already tried the three supl servers and it doesn't seems to work for me. So, if someone knows how to use it without network assistance I'll be really grateful.
Thanks in advance.
It should work out of the box.. afaik, you don't need to mess with the SLP servers unless you are using some sort of assisted GPS mode (with wifi or 3g connection). I'm using it straight out of the box (after installing the fresh firmware) and it works normal in the car (1-2 minutes first fix, a couple of seconds for any other subsequent fix). Getting a first fix while on foot does take a bit longer, but that's true with all the other non-android devices I've had. the OB has normal (no more, no less) sensitivity when it comes to GPS.
i think there it`s a problem in OB mine has problems with gps too , and already o try`d all kind of apps and even use the gps standalone from the fresh new update soft and nothing , fix the gps for the first time and after then i can`t travel with standalone gps