With data from network I can identify the location instantly. However, if I uncheck "Use wireless network", I have never located myself on Googles Maps. Is it a defect on the GPS?
Thanks in advance!
Google maps doesn't includes world map installed, it only store some caches.. you still need network to download map data & network based location, GPS is used for more accurate result & yes it's true p970 gps is not so good.
lesp4ul said:
Google maps doesn't includes world map installed, it only store some caches.. you still need network to download map data & network based location, GPS is used for more accurate result & yes it's true p970 gps is not so good.
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Thanks for your help! In fact, I already have cache of Google Maps, then turn off the wireless connection, to figure out the performance of the GPS alone. It sucks!
BTW, I used HTC Touch before and its GPS could identify the location very quickly.
have you test with the GPS fix (in hidden menu) ?
Actually you are wrong, GPS in very good in OB.
I used it for a trip of 700 KM and it has difficulty only the first time when it aquires a position (this is normal if you don't use AGPS) like 3-4 minutes...
On the road I turned off GPS by simply locking the screen (IGO8), and on relaunch the GPS position will not take more than 30 seconds. I don't have any data on my contract so it was purely GPS!
The first time it's normal to take a very long time because a large number of sattelites have to be aquired to for pin-point accuracy. Afterword I think it works with 2-3 visible sattelites!
My previous phone was a HTC Diamond, and it was exactly the same if I dind't used the GPS app every day that downloaded sattelites in advance.
It works but it's slow (as it should be). For me it's around 1 minute in hidden menu. Best place for testing outside hidden menu is Compass app (If you don't have data connection for maps)
For hidden menu:
1. Go into the LG hidden menu (3845#*970#)
2. Go into GPS Test
Test it (you need activated GPS of course)
if it's really slow, try this (I think it's if you use network to pinpoint but everyone is suggesting it, so I will too)
1. Go into System Settings
2. SULP Setting -> SLP Server Setting
create new:
Nokia (slp address: supl.nokia.com, port: 7275, no cert and no TLS setting)
If it still doesn't work, try other variants (LGE SUPL, Spirent, etc).
Thanks everyone!
It works now! The. GPS is quite sensitive!
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In the gps test in the hidden menu, there's not such option as gps fix.
Me too, I'm interested in using my gps without the assistance of the network cells. I've already tried the three supl servers and it doesn't seems to work for me. So, if someone knows how to use it without network assistance I'll be really grateful.
Thanks in advance.
It should work out of the box.. afaik, you don't need to mess with the SLP servers unless you are using some sort of assisted GPS mode (with wifi or 3g connection). I'm using it straight out of the box (after installing the fresh firmware) and it works normal in the car (1-2 minutes first fix, a couple of seconds for any other subsequent fix). Getting a first fix while on foot does take a bit longer, but that's true with all the other non-android devices I've had. the OB has normal (no more, no less) sensitivity when it comes to GPS.
i think there it`s a problem in OB mine has problems with gps too , and already o try`d all kind of apps and even use the gps standalone from the fresh new update soft and nothing , fix the gps for the first time and after then i can`t travel with standalone gps
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Is this function in our Kaiser? I've enable it from the Kaiser Tweak but today i tested it when i was in a tunnel....it did not work at all and the tunnel was 4 KM long....it should have had enough time to get a fix if it was working.
Is the Assisted GPS what i think it is?
How do you expect to get a GPS fix in a tunnel???
AGPS is basically what the QuickGPS app. does: it downloads sat. data (satellite locations) via a network connection from a server, so that TTF (time to fix) is reduced, since the device doesn´t have to download above data from the satellites themselves - which is slow....
Hope I was not too unclear, doing a search will give you much more and detailed info about how GPS works......and it doesn´t in tunnles....
As mentioned above, the AGPS uses server information (via cellular network) to locate the GPS satellite for a quicker fix and hash conditions. For a 4KM tunnel, I'm sure that your phone would have lost both GPS and network signal.
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How do you expect to get a GPS fix in a tunnel???
AGPS is basically what the QuickGPS app. does: it downloads sat. data (satellite locations) via a network connection from a server, so that TTF (time to fix) is reduced, since the device doesn´t have to download above data from the satellites themselves - which is slow....
Hope I was not too unclear, doing a search will give you much more and detailed info about how GPS works......and it doesn´t in tunnles....
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Thats correct, there are som applications that tries to estimate where in the tunnel you are when the fix is gone. But I suppose this is a function of the application and not the GPS hardware
I stand partially corrected........ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
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How do you expect to get a GPS fix in a tunnel???
AGPS is basically what the QuickGPS app. does: it downloads sat. data (satellite locations) via a network connection from a server, so that TTF (time to fix) is reduced, since the device doesn´t have to download above data from the satellites themselves - which is slow....
Hope I was not too unclear, doing a search will give you much more and detailed info about how GPS works......and it doesn´t in tunnles....
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Which is why the title is "Assisted GPS".....I've done some search on AGPS and it's suppose to use the cellular to still get a fix when in the tunnel. Well....i read it sometime ago way before Kaiser was out and this was actually one of it's talked about feature in Kaiser. Using the Kaiser Tweak, one can enable this feature but i've tested it today in the tunnel with strong cellular signal, the GPS is dead until i came out of the tunnel.
I guess it also has to be supported by the particular program. Many TomTom PNAs have a dead reckoning mode which shows your position in a tunnel based on your "entry" speed for about 30 seconds, than the position freezes in the tunnel. Now that of course has nothing to do with AGPS, but it´s a way of overcoming temporary signal loss.
Best way would be to have an inertial sensor built into the phone like in fix-mounted car-navs......but then again, that would be overkill....
You have to remember that the Assisted GPS (Cellular network mode) relies on the fact the network itself supports the feature. I know most in the UK don't have it turned on in general use. They only allow it to be used by emergency services and the likes.
Perhaps that's the same in your country?
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You have to remember that the Assisted GPS (Cellular network mode) relies on the fact the network itself supports the feature. I know most in the UK don't have it turned on in general use. They only allow it to be used by emergency services and the likes.
Perhaps that's the same in your country?
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Probably so.....oh well....it was worth a try
Thanks guys for the input.
So the internal GPS is one of the primary reasons I wanted the Kaiser, but when it comes down to it, it's the rare occasion that I actually use the GPS for much, especially stuff outside of basic "where am I" and "how do I get there" with gmaps...
Even when using quickgps, sometimes when I need to know where I am in relation to somewhere I'm going, quickly, it can still take way too long to pick up sat signals. I was in the car with a friend the other night (this is a guy that I constantly harass for having an iPhone (and he harasses me for the opposite)) and when we both pulled out our phones with gmaps, he knew right where we were, instantly, while all I could do was sit there and try my hardest to not make excuses about why I wasn't picking up a sat signal quickly.
Unless I'm using other GPS software, for my uses with gmaps, I'd really rather just be able to use the triangulation that non-GPS phones use. I tried turning off the GPS (GPS program port: None) in settings, but gmaps just searches anyway, not finding any hardware and/or sats.
Is what I want to do possible? I'm sure I'll get several responses on how I can speed up my sat signal pickup, which is NOT what I'm looking for. I just want to be able to use gmaps "My Location" without using the internal GPS, thus saving battery as well as getting a quicker pickup on where I am...
TIA
Geo
Yes, what your asking for is just using "My Location" without GPS. I use "My Location" all the time it does not activate my GPS. Here is an article that confirms "My Location" does not use GPS.
http://gigaom.com/2007/11/28/google-my-location/
-McMex
mcmexican said:
Yes, what your asking for is just using "My Location" without GPS. I use "My Location" all the time it does not activate my GPS. Here is an article that confirms "My Location" does not use GPS.
http://gigaom.com/2007/11/28/google-my-location/
-McMex
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I know that My Location can be used without GPS, I'm just wondering if it's possible on a Kaiser. Assuming you have a Kaiser device, what and how do you have it set up so that gmaps doesn't activate/use GPS, but instead uses the cell towers?
On my device using GoogleMaps 2.0.0.11 the option for My Location works separately from Use GPS. The location (within 1.7KM) is picked up within seconds, GPS does take longer but is accurate to individual rooms within my home. The Cell based locator is obviously dependent on your Carriers Cell towers and I know in the past I have been unable to get a location over HSDPA or 3G but GPRS worked. Now though on TMobile UK at home I can get my cell based location using any non Wifi data connection.
Smack! Smack!
wizzzard said:
On my device using GoogleMaps 2.0.0.11 the option for My Location works separately from Use GPS. The location (within 1.7KM) is picked up within seconds, GPS does take longer but is accurate to individual rooms within my home. The Cell based locator is obviously dependent on your Carriers Cell towers and I know in the past I have been unable to get a location over HSDPA or 3G but GPRS worked. Now though on TMobile UK at home I can get my cell based location using any non Wifi data connection.
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Ah, my apologies. Turns out I was not using the latest version. I've installed v2 with separate GPS/My Location, and My Location without GPS works great!
Thanks to all.
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I know that My Location can be used without GPS, I'm just wondering if it's possible on a Kaiser. Assuming you have a Kaiser device, what and how do you have it set up so that gmaps doesn't activate/use GPS, but instead uses the cell towers?
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By default My Location DOES NOT use GPS. You have to enable GPS from the menu.
Yes I have a Kaiser (actually 2at&t Tilts) and use Google Maps (v2.0.0.12)
kyphur said:
By default My Location DOES NOT use GPS. You have to enable GPS from the menu.
Yes I have a Kaiser (actually 2at&t Tilts) and use Google Maps (v2.0.0.12)
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Yes, I found this out by installing the latest Google Maps (after my last ROM flash, I installed gmaps from a cab I already had on sd, which was apparently not a recent version).
Thank you - I love the fact that I can use gmaps without GPS now for the quick "where am I" without having to wait, but can still use GPS when I feel like it, and also still have it enabled in Settings for use in other GPS programs.
Thanks again
I have two questions really..
I live in the Netherlands and have an always-on internet subscription... but when I travel abroad I want to do the following:
1) Turn off all data transfer so I don't get charged for things that want to update or whatever
2) Keep the GPS functioning
Using the connections manager, I turned the data connection off, but this didn't work at all. It would just connect through the phone line anyway. I resorted to deleting all the internet settings from the phone which was a difficult, lengthy and frustrating process, and I ahd to put them all back in when I got home.
Also, after I did that, GPS did not work anymore. I could not find a setting anywhere to turn on or off the GPS by itself... is it linked to the data connection? I couldn't actually turn the data connection on in the connection manager when I deleted the settings... I couldn't access the GPS at all from any program unless I had the data connection on, and working. Is that right, and... isn't that weird?
Yes, it's weird. I faced same problem. Solutions?
To totally prevent data connections, you have 2 choices:
1- remove GPRS/3G configuration from provider
or
2- nodata! That's what I use
About the GPS not working while in fligh mode, I turn on bluetooth and then GPs works
or alternatively rename the access point name...
e.g. mine is "orangeinternet" I stick a character in front "xorangeinternet" and thus it fails to connect if you do accidently start up an app that tries to connect.
I know it works for Orange - cant confirm it with other providers but I suspect it will be the same.
Can anyone else on other provider networks confirm?
nodata is quite handy
Nice, I'll try nodata!
The GPS eludes me though.
Use "Advanced Config 3.2" Available on this site.
Menu->More Settings->Connections
You can disable each network connection. does not affect GPS
To use solely the GPS you need to install a specific GPS enabled stand alone software on your phone, such as TomTom or IGO.
Otherwise you will be using a AGPS data connexion which is expensive abroad.
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You can disable each network connection. does not affect GPS
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actually it does... tomtom7 doesn't work if you're in flight mode (no problem with igo8 thou).
Sorry for another GPS question. I know that the GPS is meant to be inaccurate, but I can't get it to work at all with Google Maps. I always get the "Your Location is currently unavailable" message when I try to find my location with it. I upgraded to the latest firmware over KIES but that didn't fix it. It sometimes works with other apps, and the tests seem to show it connecting (if slowly and inaccurately). Does anyone know how to fix this?
"Your Location is currently unavailable" doesn't come from the GPS, but it comes from the Tower Network Location Service that is the other check box above the GPS settings screen
Just fixed his very issue
I had no blue dot in Google Maps.
I needed to disable wifi. Enable data through 3G.
The blue my location returned with my towers position.
I disabled 3g, enabled wifi.
All fixed now, very relieved
thanks but neither of these methods work.
Maybe your telco does not provide tower info
it actually started working again randomly. this might be a stupid question but why does google maps not use the Gps?
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it actually started working again randomly. this might be a stupid question but why does google maps not use the Gps?
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it can use both
Towers and/or GPS
i too have some issues with google maps and my location:
ignoring how long it takes to get my location (sometimes really fast, sometimes too long) ... it seems that it get the position using just wifi (gps ans gsm disabled), with gps, or just with the gsm on ... cool
but: sometimes i don't get my location in google maps (location unavailable!), even though i can get it in other applications that use google maps : like a tracking app ... or in google earth ... or in antennas ... etc
how can i fix this?
thank u!
I know SGS has a lot of issue with GPS. Here's mine. I've cold start and standalone set-up in lbs test mode. Now the problem is it'll lock on to satellites in a matter of 20sec with 15m accuracy only when connected to wi-fi couldn't check for gprs since sgs doesn't save my apn =(. But with wi-fi switched off it doesn't speak to any satellites forget about getting a lock on them. Doubt here is, isn't standalone mode supposed to be GPS working without any data connection of any sort or am I missing something here? Kindly clarify. Also what does MS based and MS assisted mean in the test mode. Checked for GPS with Network Provider selected in test mode. I get accuracy of 3.8km here at my home....
Thanks & Regards
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I just tested indoors (rainy here) and the SGS did get a lock. I've switched off cellular data and wifi, cleared the AGPS data with "GPS Status", and it took a long time (few minutes) to get a lock.
But that was indoors, where it always takes a bit longer to get a lock.
I tried it outside last evening and it would only see the sat's no lock =|