Problem with Tilt and Vista. - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Im having a bit of an odd problem. Im running "Windows mobile device center" in Vista (64b) and when the Tilt is plugged in, something odd happens. It works normally, but its like something is constantly interrupting what im doing. About every 2 seconds! Its like something keeps "tabbing" around, interrupting what im doing. The windows flash on and off, and its just very odd. If I have a pull down menu up, it vanishes. If im trying to rename a file, it vanishes. Its like something is constantly pressing the escape key every 2 seconds. Its very frustrating, and ONLY happens when the tilt is plugged it! Has anyone had this problem on there Vista?

idk man i my phone is on it as we speak and i am as well running vista 64...hhmmm...i had a problem before with the windows mobile device center...and i went on their site and searched around and found a different version that seemed to work fine....
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...56-7825-43B2-AC89-2030ED98ED95&displaylang=en
thats the one i got....the once included in vista gave me some trouble so i use this one and its all good now....good luck

Well i had the same on my old pocketpc . . . .(ipaq 2210)
It seems your tilt is drawing more power from yer usb plug than it can handle.
then the usb port will be switching on/off constantly.
so disable charging over usb on your tilt, or put it on a usb hub with an external power supply for more power.
(usb delivers max 500mAh, tilt uses more when charging)
please pm me if it worked for you.
mark.

Doh. I was REALLY hopeful that the power thing would work. Sadly, not. I tried disabling charging, AND put it on a powered up, and it still happens. Gah. I will try the software next.
*edit* nope. I already had that ver installed. *sigh*.
Im going to do a windows re-install in a few weeks. I hope that will cure it. Im sure its some type of software issue.

Crap . . . .sorry to hear that.
I tried clean install too before i know upper message, and back then the new install didn't work so i hope it will work for you.
did you try clean install of your tilt?
(i have seen that a hard reset on tilt still leave some files and folders on your main memory so a hard reset isn't like a "format :c" . . . . .be sure to delete the files and folders manually before hardreset.
(even putting back a system backup leaves old files untouched on the main memory . .)
hope you can fix it . . . . .

Related

internal usb driver error?

for the past few weeks i have not been able to connect my phone with any computer using any cord. all are either vista computers or they have active sync 4.5. at this point i have reached the conclusion that the problem lies with the phone itself. i may have deleted the whatever it is that runs the usb on the phone.
any suggestions or past experience would help. i don't really feel like spending money on a new one. it gets frustrating when many mods are done from (or at least started) on the computer, and then require my to connect my phone.
btw... i have synced the phone many times before the problem started using all the same components i am trying now.
EDIT: the battery icon shows it is charging when i plug it into a usb, but from there, i have nothing, and i have also reset memory a few times since then too.
Thanks again from a modding newb!
-mike
How are you trying to sync it? Plug it in and wait for Active to launch? Launching Active yourself and clicking connect, or from within the phone itself?
I wonder if disabaling USB charging would allow you to sync it up again.. Have you reinstalled the computer software from the CD again?
I am sure there is something you can do aside from a full phone reset...
At first, i just plugged it in, like i do every day, and wait for active to launch, but it didn't, so i opened it manually.
I tried reinstalling from the OEM disk, and also downloading directly from Microsoft (both AS 4.5).
ill poke around and see if i can disable USB charging like u suggested. thank you.

How do I stop ActiveSync loading all the time ?

Not sure if this is normal but, ActiveSync is always loading itself. Not been near a USB port or connected over BT. Even when a fresh restart is done, it loads... is this normal or not ?
If I quit it, I can still sync to my Mac via USB no problem.
I dunno but if you find out, let me know.... Activesync CONSTANTLY loads by itself for no reason at all.
I can do a soft reset and not touch the phone and on it comes.
I can not touch the phone and give it ten minutes and on it comes.
I mentioned this to HTC and of course, they thought I was wierd... never heard of it before.
I installed "quick menu" because someone told me that it was easier to close out applications but it still didn't affect activesync from loading.
Anyone else have this problem?
Mark
Me Too!
ditto on all of the above...
searching "stop active sync", one of the many, many results brought me to:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/...sappearing-cf-sd-cards-battery-discharge.html
see also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304763
you'll also find that some of our beloved cookers added to their ROM a little prog called "elias_asynckiller" (not so sure about the name......).
keep searching, you'll find it.
this is an old, old problem thanks to micr$soft
here you have it, found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386948

Big Issue! ActiveSync slows device problem!

Hi, this is big issue, couse nobody solved it yet. How is it posible, that Diamond is verys low after connection with PC using ActiveSync? Just try it, try scrolling in programs folder, then plug Diamond to PC using active sync, disconnect it, and try it again. It will be much slower. Or try VS bench after Active Sync session, you will get much worse results. Graphic went from 2300 to 1300 points after Active Sync connection. Diamond goes to normal speed after soft reset only. Please, share you ideas and experiences with this issue.
pokevitek said:
Hi, this is big issue, couse nobody solved it yet. How is it posible, that Diamond is verys low after connection with PC using ActiveSync? Just try it, try scrolling in programs folder, then plug Diamond to PC using active sync, disconnect it, and try it again. It will be much slower. Or try VS bench after Active Sync session, you will get much worse results. Graphic went from 2300 to 1300 points after Active Sync connection. Diamond goes to normal speed after soft reset only. Please, share you ideas and experiences with this issue.
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Indeed its true, but it does not happen when you use the device as a Disk Drive.
Yes, I know, but this should not happen. Any ideas why? It is strange. Do you think it is becouse some software problem? None of my previous phones did this. If it is software, new ROM can solve it, but if this is hardware... Did some of your phones do this?
this happens with other HTC devices (and maybe other WM) as well. I have a TC, and I notice it too. Its only when it's actually doing the sync. Once the sync is completed, mine goes back to normal. And when I disconnect, all's good as well. Are you saying its slow all the time once you activesync, even if you then disconnect?
Yes, exactly. I disconncet Diamond from PC, even stop ActiveSync in task manager on Diamond, and whole system is much slower. As I wrote, vs bench takes 1000 away after active sync. But, and that must be mistake, vs bench add 700 point to saund test, but as I said, this must be error of VS Bench. Whole system is slow.
Hmmm, well that's strange, and I don't know what might be causing that (esp sinc eI don't have a Diamond myself). i did have a similar issue with my TyTN a while back. I think it amounted to some software I installed and a very "dirty" notification queue. I ended up hard resetting and all was back to normal. I hope it isn't something like that for you.
jomo25 said:
Hmmm, well that's strange, and I don't know what might be causing that (esp sinc eI don't have a Diamond myself). i did have a similar issue with my TyTN a while back. I think it amounted to some software I installed and a very "dirty" notification queue. I ended up hard resetting and all was back to normal. I hope it isn't something like that for you.
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Ahhhh, so this may be the issue I've been having ...
I'm going to have to test this further to confirm but after a soft reset, my "bubbleshooter" game (yes, I know - childish for a 45 year old company director but it passes the time at airports etc.) works great. However, at some point after running several things, the game becomes very slow. Still playable but at half speed. I thought it was my Intellisync client (for Lotus Notes) or some of the background apps like quickGPS etc. but this may be it. I also confirm that even if I stop all apps (cleanly or forcibly), the problem remains.
I'll post back and confirm if I can duplicate or not. I will also check TaskMgr (the good one included on Dutty's ROM) to see what's running after a soft reset and what's running after ActivSync is started / stopped. Maybe it's leaving something behind ...
Regards,
Gary.
There is to much communication going on thats why its slow!
Probably 3 megs a second in commsss. Thats why its slow!
You have to understand the reasons of WHY and then you will make the peace with the kick asssss Jewel.
Sergio PC said:
There is to much communication going on thats why its slow!
Probably 3 megs a second in commsss. Thats why its slow!
You have to understand the reasons of WHY and then you will make the peace with the kick asssss Jewel.
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Sergio,
Sorry to bring bad news but you've missed the point completely .... We are talking about AFTER you've run Activesync, unplugged the device and shut down Activesync. When Activesync is running, for me it's to replicate mail, charge, copy files etc. - not to play games or watch films. When it's connected, I'm aware that there may be many activities ongoing so don't expect high frame-rate etc. etc. However, when I disconnect from the USB line and shut down Activesync, I expect full performance (which is not the case).
Hope that clarifies the issue for you.
Regards,
Gary.
Sergio PC said:
There is to much communication going on thats why its slow!
Probably 3 megs a second in commsss. Thats why its slow!
You have to understand the reasons of WHY and then you will make the peace with the kick asssss Jewel.
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the "kick ass commsss" should not but slowing down the device after the activesync has disconnected, i think thats the problem
Not only being slow even after being disconnected: Activesync starts up by itself and even if I shut it down, it reopens...
gxprice said:
Sergio,
Sorry to bring bad news but you've missed the point completely .... We are talking about AFTER you've run Activesync, unplugged the device and shut down Activesync. When Activesync is running, for me it's to replicate mail, charge, copy files etc. - not to play games or watch films. When it's connected, I'm aware that there may be many activities ongoing so don't expect high frame-rate etc. etc. However, when I disconnect from the USB line and shut down Activesync, I expect full performance (which is not the case).
Hope that clarifies the issue for you.
Regards,
Gary.
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Yes sorry if I missed the point.
What about this: Check if active sync is still running after you activate it.
Either tap on right upper part to close or use Task manager to close activesync. Cause it still runs after you disconect the Jewel from computer.
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the "kick ass commsss" should not but slowing down the device after the activesync has disconnected, i think thats the problem
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What about this: Check if active sync is still running after you activate it.
Either tap on right upper part to close or use Task manager to close activesync. Cause it still runs after you disconnect the Jewel from computer.
Well, yes, for begining it is good that finally somebody cares about this problem. For now, only one thing that can reverse phone slowdown after activesync is soft reset. I tested it on other phones (Asus P535, Mio a701) no one has this problem. But they all were running WM 5 maybe WM 6.1 coue this problem. I am begginer, i can only guess, you are the experts, so please excuse my mistakes if there are some. If you want to know this slowdown in numbers, go to ROM development -> some benchamrking -> and open tab of tested ROMs. Original ROM 1.93 has very bad graphics points, but Very goo sound points. This is the ActiveSync problem. I tested it twice, after soft reset, benchmark results are similiar to other ROMs withount any "strange" numbers.
So, I wrote message about this problem to HTC, maybe, just maybe some fix will come.
I've been told about eLiAs ASyncKiller. It seems to kill ActiveSync when you disconnect.
This may solve your problem
It happens to me to, but i notice that when I close Activesync down the memory usage figures in the top right corner when you select the drop down arrow, dont change. In fact, as we all know, the memory usage creeps up, and when mine gets to about 70% the phone does get quite slow and a soft reset always fixes it. Then memory usage goes back to 56% starting from scratch.
I thought the memory leaking problems were fixed in the latest 1.93 ROM? Is this not the case?
Thats what I put it down to.
davbo said:
Not only being slow even after being disconnected: Activesync starts up by itself and even if I shut it down, it reopens...
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I had this problem on my Orange UK Diamond with factory ROM. After 2 hard resets it stopped happening but I had other problems with the phone and had it replaced. Now whenever I soft reset the newly exchanged phone ActiveSync starts up and I have to close from Task Manager. I have tried a couple of hard resets to no avail. I also quite often get problems with manila.exe that may be linked. I'm getting really frustrated with this device! Never had so many problems with a new phone/pda.
davbo said:
I've been told about eLiAs ASyncKiller. It seems to kill ActiveSync when you disconnect.
This may solve your problem
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thanks but can't solve the problem!
Connecting to Activesync but not able to Sync
Connecting to Activesync but not able to Sync
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Hi,
I am having a strange problem with Active Sync.
When I plug in my mobile with USB and use active sync. it does not synchornise.
I have tried all the options liek chaning schedule, changing the settings and diabling advanced network functionality still I am not able to make the diamond synchronise.
Finally, I downloaded the active sync. 4.5 even then my problem remains the same.
It always shows the message "connected" ( green icon )and fails to synchronise.
thanks for any help..

Bootscreen WTF?

Okay, ive seriously tried about every possible thing on here to get my stupid phone to work but heres my situation.
The ATT Tilt i have was working great up until a couple months ago. At one point it just shut off and then went straight to the RGB screen with
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.000
CPLD-8
and "serial" on the bottom
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
Ive tried flashing through the SD card, and it goes to the loading screen. I've used Dutty's, HyperDragon, and the original ROM as a test base. Hyper and Dutty's i renamed the RUU.nbh to KAISIMG.nbh and it goes to "Loading" and thats it. Ive even tried naming it KAISDIAG.nbh and still nothing. Stays there for a while but doesnt go anywhere. I dont know how long exactly its supposed to take to load the damn thing but every post ive seen makes me think that its just "It loads, flashes and you're done"
The furthest i got was with the original ROM i downloaded that was shipped with the phone. Not sure whether or not the version was correct but then again i have no idea what vers. my phone is or where to find the rom that works with it. Anyways, i used the shipped rom, named it KAISIMG.nbh loaded it, said Checking, then says "Not Allow" with some numbers n **** on the top (0028002), then resets back to the boot screen.
No, its not named KAISIMG.nbh.nbh im sure of it.
Its not a kingston sd or none of that.
Ive formatted, used fat32. (however, i cant make it allocate to 512. windows gives it a "default" allocation size which is unknown to me and i cant change it)
Whats wrong with this stupid phone.
Help me please.
ps. Ive searched the archives frivolously and havent really found anything that completely answers my question.
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
Well thanks for all the good info throughout the site though. a MAJOR help for someone who thought their $600 phone took a **** on them.
afrodude said:
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
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Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
afrodude said:
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
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Heres the software you can download, its all you really need.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/activesync45.mspx
Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 is a new software update release for Windows Mobile powered devices that provides a great synchronization experience with Windows-powered PCs and Microsoft Outlook.
Note: Microsoft ActiveSync works only with Windows XP SP3 or earlier. If you have Windows Vista, your synchronization settings will be managed through the Windows Mobile Device Center. Windows Mobile Device Center is available through the Windows Mobile Device Center page.
Supported features
ActiveSync acts as the gateway between your Microsoft Windows-powered PC and Windows Mobile powered device and allows you to synchronize Microsoft Outlook information, Microsoft Office documents, pictures, music, videos and applications to and from your device.
Flying Kiwi said:
Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
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****.
Yeah. You're right.
My problem now is that once ive reset the tilt after the update, it goes right back into the RGB screen.
What gives now?
I just want the phone to work. Is there a WM6.0 i can download??
If so where?
Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
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Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
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Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
afrodude said:
Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow, all that yelling screams I DON'T REALLY WANT SOMEONE TO HELP ME.
Look at the wiki. You can fix it there. YOU'RE WELCOME.
afrodude said:
Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow and you expect to get help form a community by this kind of response ?
Look you are the one who brought a phone that has developed problems and came here for help...
I cannot help that you do not have what you need, that said go buy the $10 dollar cable BTW it is a commonly used cable so you might all ready own one if YOU SEARCH for it ,
download the proper software that was told to you .
GO SEARCH if this is the kind of response that you are going to give to others that might try to help...
good luck with your phone troubles....
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PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer.
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Uh, don't tell us you don't have a standard mini USB cable anywhere... you get one with pretty much any computer device you'd buy. You don't need anything more. As said, do an effort or find your way yourself.

**Help needed with no charge and the lacklustre help not given via MAZE(Alpha 4gig)**

Hi guys, been a bit out of the loop (hospital) but bought an Alpha around sep last year...within 2 months i used a official Maze update (OTA) and it then no longer charges...got onto them via facebook (as there were no official threads for this phone back then) and they sent me this to reflash it...
http://www.mazemobile.com/download-center
The ROM used to be there, but they have the ****ing cheek to say "people tried to flash and blamed MAZE" now it was MAZE's update in the first place that buggered my phone.:silly:..i still have the original ROM...
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8XLZxEJR8albndMcXJhWGtlVDQ
^not sure if that works for you, but basically it was..
:A really crap tutorial
:Maze Alpha flash tool.zip
:Maze_Alpha_V05_20170816
I've followed everything by the letter to no avail???
Now MAZE are bloody useless, can i count on one of you clever chaps to help me out?
P.s it's the 4 gig model.
Many thanks lads...
Any joy?
Is there anybody on here that had the same problem? You guys are usually really helpful, as i'm getting no rsponse from MAZE i thought i'd try where the true tech heads reside (i've received help before on my Xioami phones and smartwatches before) or is it that not many people have bothered with this phone? please help a guy out...much appreciated.
seedaripper said:
Is there anybody on here that had the same problem? You guys are usually really helpful, as i'm getting no rsponse from MAZE i thought i'd try where the true tech heads reside (i've received help before on my Xioami phones and smartwatches before) or is it that not many people have bothered with this phone? please help a guy out...much appreciated.
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Well the thing is that you need to provide a bit more info. 'I've followed everything by the letter to no avail???' But you are not telling what works or not or what step you are stuck in the manual.
A lot of things come to my mind.
- is it still booting
- did you try another cable - charger
- ...
If it still boots and works a bit can you connect it to a pc and access for example the internal memory etc?
Some more info would be of help to get response... although I find the Maze Alpha part of the forum a lot of read and very little help (a bit of ranting may wake up people)
Cheers...someone lives!
Thanks for responding lukesan (much appreciated)
I'm using the original charger, it was working fine until i got the OTA so i doubt that's the problem.
No it doesn't boot (there is just enough charge to get to recovery mode,fastboot mode,normal boot)
I followed the manual/flash/tool etc (does the google drive doc show up for you as posted above?) everything seemed to go fine...but the problem still persists, it just wont charge?
Maybe i need a new ROM (or it could be the tool MAZE sent me) they are ****ing useless and i've started a bit of a social media campaign against them
(at first they were keeping in touch, but now they just ignore me completely on facebook) it pisses me off no end:crying:
P.s it does connect to my PC (sometimes), where should i dig around?
lukesan said:
Well the thing is that you need to provide a bit more info. 'I've followed everything by the letter to no avail???' But you are not telling what works or not or what step you are stuck in the manual.
A lot of things come to my mind.
- is it still booting
- did you try another cable - charger
- ...
If it still boots and works a bit can you connect it to a pc and access for example the internal memory etc?
Some more info would be of help to get response... although I find the Maze Alpha part of the forum a lot of read and very little help (a bit of ranting may wake up people)
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seedaripper said:
Thanks for responding lukesan (much appreciated)
I'm using the original charger, it was working fine until i got the OTA so i doubt that's the problem.
No it doesn't boot (there is just enough charge to get to recovery mode,fastboot mode,normal boot)
I followed the manual/flash/tool etc (does the google drive doc show up for you as posted above?) everything seemed to go fine...but the problem still persists, it just wont charge?
Maybe i need a new ROM (or it could be the tool MAZE sent me) they are ****ing useless and i've started a bit of a social media campaign against them
(at first they were keeping in touch, but now they just ignore me completely on facebook) it pisses me off no end:crying:
P.s it does connect to my PC (sometimes), where should i dig around?
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Just checked, and yes it is the correct manual. But lets say that even me, a veteran (with no patience), had issues with it. It is 100% correct but ... well see later on where you get.
Ok, first couple of things come up in my mind. Could still be the cable, the charger or even the the charging port that is broken. Been in the electronics business since the late 80's and these things can go wrong or broken any minute even thinking that a firmware update caused it.
Charger you can easily check if you just connect it to another charger or a pc usb port. A PC usb port will only deliver (mostly) max 400mA to 500mA .. meaning it will charge, if it still does, extremely slow. So I would keep it connected to a pc all day long or night before trying to switch it on. Trying to switch it on during charging and batt at low level will probably not work. You could try to power on after 2 or 3 hours or so and if it powers on then I would power it off again to get at least some juice in it to play around.
Cable, I would go fetch another one, they will come in handy in the future too. If it doesn't fit properly because the port is to deep in the Alpha then just take a knife and carefully cut a very small piece of the plastic, just 1mm is enough. I've done this on the 2 extra cables I have here and it works perfectly and I don't even see it aesthetically so no harm done on mine.
Now if that still doesn't work we can try the next step. But be very careful to know that that will delete all data, pictures, etc off of the phone. Because of all my toying with this phone I stuck an sd-card in it and doing a backup before I play with it again.
The manual states that you have to press the volume up button.. Well you can already test that without hurting anything as long you don't press anything on the flashtool. So only volume up and then insert the usb cable to a pc. Now the mistake I made in the beginning was to also push the power button.
So on the pc open up your device manager. If you do volume up (not in any of the other modes like fastboot etc, so from a standpoint that the phone is completely off) hold it for 2 or 3 sec and plug it into the PC. Now you should hear the typical usb connection sound and see something happening like an extra device in the manager. Probably you do not have the correct drivers installed for starters. Look for mtk drivers for your OS. Be careful, a lot of crap and virus links out there.
Now another issue that I fell for the first time is that you have to connect it twice like that to the pc to actually flash. First time ... press the 'scan' and let it do it (think the top field will become green) and then disconnect the phone and do the same volume up and connect and then it will allow you to flash.
But first check what is happening before we have to flash it.
Btw I know about their attitude. Well, as a Chinese company they must understand that by this attitude they will not going to sell any products anymore. I only bought mine because it was a special deal and I wanted to test an MTK chipset. They never replied to me why there is no real fast charge on it etc.
I also very very highly recommend you to invest, well for the price of a sandwich, to buy a usb charging doctor which will allow you to see the voltage and current. You don't need to be a doctor to us it and at least you see something instead of having to guess. Also while you are at it buy good quality chargers and a couple of cables. They will always come in handy and take some of the guesswork away if needed.
Top lad.
Again many thanks luksan (hefty bit of typing you did there mate )
I very much doubt it's the charger (i was extremely careful everytime with insertion) or port for that matter...this is the only USB-C i have (everything else is old school micro USB) and i resent forking out more money (the original trader Cafago said to send it back tracked at my own cost...£60!!!)
i'd like to try and fix the bastard and then sell it, never to return
Again, all these probs literally appeared after i did the OTA (i doubt it was coincidence)
i do like your advice on the re-doing the flash twice, so i may give that a go...bloody nora, what a pain in the arse!
Thanks for being a voice in the void pal...
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lukesan said:
Just checked, and yes it is the correct manual. But lets say that even me, a veteran (with no patience), had issues with it. It is 100% correct but ... well see later on where you get.
Ok, first couple of things come up in my mind. Could still be the cable, the charger or even the the charging port that is broken. Been in the electronics business since the late 80's and these things can go wrong or broken any minute even thinking that a firmware update caused it.
So on the pc open up your device manager. If you do volume up (not in any of the other modes like fastboot etc, so from a standpoint that the phone is completely off) hold it for 2 or 3 sec and plug it into the PC. Now you should hear the typical usb connection sound and see something happening like an extra device in the manager. Probably you do not have the correct drivers installed for starters. Look for mtk drivers for your OS. Be careful, a lot of crap and virus links out there.
Now another issue that I fell for the first time is that you have to connect it twice like that to the pc to actually flash. First time ... press the 'scan' and let it do it (think the top field will become green) and then disconnect the phone and do the same volume up and connect and then it will allow you to flash.
But first check what is happening before we have to flash it.
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seedaripper said:
Again many thanks luksan (hefty bit of typing you did there mate )
I very much doubt it's the charger (i was extremely careful everytime with insertion) or port for that matter...this is the only USB-C i have (everything else is old school micro USB) and i resent forking out more money (the original trader Cafago said to send it back tracked at my own cost...£60!!!)
i'd like to try and fix the bastard and then sell it, never to return
Again, all these probs literally appeared after i did the OTA (i doubt it was coincidence)
i do like your advice on the re-doing the flash twice, so i may give that a go...bloody nora, what a pain in the arse!
Thanks for being a voice in the void pal...
See
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Well don't flash it twice. You have to put it in that mode twice to start it to complete the procedure. I do not believe in the wipe it 3 times to be sure, turn around and jump to make it better or faster. Loads of voodoo that is not scientifically proven around. It's all about a 0 and a 1, there is nothing in between that.
But .£60 to send that charger, LOL.
A month ago I bought an Aukey charger that included a USB-C cable for like .£12 including shipping to Belgium. (well just followed the rain and snow and landed here)
Let us know what happens next.
Any update on what you did?
GAH!
Yes, i've just tried everything again...nothing seems to work? when i actually start the tool i get a number of errors (including scatter?) then the tool boots, i then go through the broken english bollocks of the 'guide' again, do everything and it still doesn't work?? listen man, could you do me a massive favour...just outline the steps (bullet point wise) on what to do? no chatting about the chinese or voodoo
just nice clear as day steps, because as it stands i'm going to have to pay £70 just to send this piece of **** back (and probably wont get a full refund)
If you could do that (and i mean laymans terms here) i'd be forever grateful...
Cheers bud.:good::good:
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Any update on what you did?
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seedaripper said:
Yes, i've just tried everything again...nothing seems to work? when i actually start the tool i get a number of errors (including scatter?) then the tool boots, i then go through the broken english bollocks of the 'guide' again, do everything and it still doesn't work?? listen man, could you do me a massive favour...just outline the steps (bullet point wise) on what to do? no chatting about the chinese or voodoo
just nice clear as day steps, because as it stands i'm going to have to pay £70 just to send this piece of **** back (and probably wont get a full refund)
If you could do that (and i mean laymans terms here) i'd be forever grateful...
Cheers bud.:good::good:
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But what about the drivers etc.... What shows up?
ROM?
lukesan said:
Any update on what you did?
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Perhaps it's the ROM? any chance you could give me the latest version? (or a link) i keep getting error in the light green field (FAIL) on the Tool?
I'm not sure if it's the tool or the bloody ROM?
As usual not a sodding dicky bird from MAZE (emails,twitter facebook etc) what a sh!tty company...
Nothing shows up...i think the first time i tried to plug it into the PC it ran a scan,(i don't think it found the drivers, as it doesnt show up on my computer :running win 7) from there on in, nothing? it also makes the mandatory PC sound bleep when plugged in, then about a second later i get the discharge bleep? (not sure if this is lack of charge) if i had a frigging phone i'd post screenshots! damned if i do, damned if i don't!
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But what about the drivers etc.... What shows up?
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seedaripper said:
Nothing shows up...i think the first time i tried to plug it into the PC it ran a scan,(i don't think it found the drivers, as it doesnt show up on my computer :running win 7) from there on in, nothing? it also makes the mandatory PC sound bleep when plugged in, then about a second later i get the discharge bleep? (not sure if this is lack of charge) if i had a frigging phone i'd post screenshots! damned if i do, damned if i don't!
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Well if it hasn't gotten the correct drivers it will never ever be able to flash. It's like trying to use your house keys to start your car.
I see all kinds of stuff happening if you keep the device manager open. Open up the 'ports' (com & lpt) section. Now press the 'volume up' key for a second or 2 and then connect it to a usb port while holding the key.. release it like a second later when it is connected to the port. Now you should see some stuff happening. Just did it on my win10 machine but should be pretty similar on a win7. One of them says first 'mtk usb' and then 'preloader usb vcom' . If these don't show up then look no further for now.
seedaripper said:
Perhaps it's the ROM? any chance you could give me the latest version? (or a link) i keep getting error in the light green field (FAIL) on the Tool?
I'm not sure if it's the tool or the bloody ROM?
As usual not a sodding dicky bird from MAZE (emails,twitter facebook etc) what a sh!tty company...
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Have you tried my backup here ?
Flash TWRP using fastboot method and then boot into TWRP and do a restore with the backup I provide for Maze Alpha 4/64
dreambo said:
Have you tried my backup here ?
Flash TWRP using fastboot method and then boot into TWRP and do a restore with the backup I provide for Maze Alpha 4/64
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His device doesn't charge and his battery is flat so I guess his by the time he can flash the device dies anyway.
er?
lukesan said:
Well if it hasn't gotten the correct drivers it will never ever be able to flash. It's like trying to use your house keys to start your car.
I see all kinds of stuff happening if you keep the device manager open. Open up the 'ports' (com & lpt) section. Now press the 'volume up' key for a second or 2 and then connect it to a usb port while holding the key.. release it like a second later when it is connected to the port. Now you should see some stuff happening. Just did it on my win10 machine but should be pretty similar on a win7. One of them says first 'mtk usb' and then 'preloader usb vcom' . If these don't show up then look no further for now.
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Ok, did that for a split second 'media TEK preloader USB VCOM (android) (COM4)' flashes up, i managed to click on it quickly and got to mediatek properties...then went to update driver (it searched the net and found it) all this time after the original insertion, literally a second after it just disconnects? (and it doesn't show up in my computer) i get this as device status.....
Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45)
To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer.
I plug it back in, it says normal, then a second later the above message? any ideas?
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His device doesn't charge and his battery is flat so I guess his by the time he can flash the device dies anyway.
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Yep, when i try to power on i have a split second of the MAZE logo, then back to death...i Can leave it charging and i get the wobble liquid battery graphic, but it never goes above 0%, as explained this only happened after a firmware update (#dreambo)
Can't get my head round multi quote?
dreambo said:
Have you tried my backup here ?
Flash TWRP using fastboot method and then boot into TWRP and do a restore with the backup I provide for Maze Alpha 4/64
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Yep, when i try to power on i have a split second of the MAZE logo, then back to death...i Can leave it charging and i get the wobble liquid battery graphic, but it never goes above 0%, as explained this only happened after a firmware update (#dreambo)
seedaripper said:
Ok, did that for a split second 'media TEK preloader USB VCOM (android) (COM4)' flashes up, i managed to click on it quickly and got to mediatek properties...then went to update driver (it searched the net and found it) all this time after the original insertion, literally a second after it just disconnects? (and it doesn't show up in my computer) i get this as device status.....
Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45)
To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer.
I plug it back in, it says normal, then a second later the above message? any ideas?
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Mmm, if you see the preloader thing then I guess that is ok. ... it is no longer an 'unknown device' which sounds fine to me. Let me quickly test on my Maze for a sec. (will edit this post).
It is normal that it disconnects. My guess is that it tries to setup comms between device and something on the pc where it can talk to. If there is no communication then it just powers down again. The display etc will all stay off since it directly does the comms to the cpu and the ram. Sort of write only state. So it is a very low level form of programming. Can be scary for people because you see nothing happening on the phone during that process.
Ok just tested again.. Can you do step 1 to 5 in the manual without an error? (to be sure I would right-click on the exe and run it as administrator to start that program)
Till that step 5 no connection to the Alpha is needed. In step 5 if you have pressed 'scan' it should say something like resetting comm ports and only the 'stop all' should be clickable.
If we are that far then I guess we are a step further.
Give that a try and then we'll see for the next step.
lukesan said:
Mmm, if you see the preloader thing then I guess that is ok. ... it is no longer an 'unknown device' which sounds fine to me. Let me quickly test on my Maze for a sec. (will edit this post).
It is normal that it disconnects. My guess is that it tries to setup comms between device and something on the pc where it can talk to. If there is no communication then it just powers down again. The display etc will all stay off since it directly does the comms to the cpu and the ram. Sort of write only state. So it is a very low level form of programming. Can be scary for people because you see nothing happening on the phone during that process.
Ok just tested again.. Can you do step 1 to 5 in the manual without an error? (to be sure I would right-click on the exe and run it as administrator to start that program)
Till that step 5 no connection to the Alpha is needed. In step 5 if you have pressed 'scan' it should say something like resetting comm ports and only the 'stop all' should be clickable.
If we are that far then I guess we are a step further.
Give that a try and then we'll see for the next step.
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