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Screen Align not working? DOA?

Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?

foaf said:
Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?
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It might be a simple loose connection or something trapped between screen and bezel. But I would not be even thinking about that, it would be going straight back under warranty. Thankfully, this is not a common problem with the Kaiser and I think you have just been unlucky.
I assume you have not put on any screen protector that might be causing this behaviour> Otherwise it is a DOA and nothing you can/should do other than return.
Mike

Thanks. I hope its not common! No screen protector, but I did try one first before first boot. I immediately removed it when the taps weren't working. I'll send it back tomorrow, thanks.

Dont tap. Just lightly drag the end of the stylus around each target until it proceeds to the next one.
It's common and should be fine.

Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem

foaf said:
Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem
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If the future device does it, just try what I suggested but be as accurate as you can.

Unwired's method works for me as well. My Kaiser always seems to lose the ability to detect stylus presses (but finger pressure works) every time I use it on a plane which I assume is due to the cabin pressure. When the screen is reset, everything goes back to normal. Has anyone else noticed this, or do I have some defect that is only going to get worse?

I got the second Kaiser, and it happened again. But I immediatley used unwireds method, this time being extremely precise and only moving the stylus slightly. It works fine now, and stylus accurancy seems to be ok.
I still think it's strange, as I have had an HTC XDA before and a tap was sufficient on the screen align process. Furthermore it clearly states "tap screen" not "tap and drag".

My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.

unwired4 said:
My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.
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For me it is more like 'tap-and-hold'. I make a firm tap on the '+' symbol, then keep the stylus pressed on the screen for one second, then release. The '+' then moves to the next alignment point.

Just for the record, I think the problem is common!
I've seen many people who have unresponsive touchscreens, and now I'm one of those unlucky people. And nothing works. And I don't have warranty because I'm in a different country than the purchase country and the reseller here only services phone bought in the Middle East. #[email protected]$#@$#@

Problem with the touch screen.

I bought my HTC tytn II about a week ago and I am having a problem with the touch screen. Sometimes when I touch for example on the start or on the ok button with the stylus it doesn’t respond from the first time and I must touch again to respond. I have align the screen so that’s not the problem because most of the time it works ok. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks.

Sometimes the corners just need a firmer press where the digitizer layer is held more firmly. So you would need to check whether yours really needs two presses or just a firmer one.
Mike

The problem is not just the corners but the whole screen. Sometimes it just doesn’t respond from the first touch.

After further usage of the device I think it’s not the touch screen that has the problem because when it’s not responding it freezes for about 2-4 sec. and then it’s normal again. Is anyone experiencing this strange behavior? What can it be wrong it drives me crazy! Can please someone help?

My ATT Tilt is doing the same thing. Right now im running the stock ATT Rom with the ATT autoload crap disabled after a clean hard reset.
I notice that when my touch screen stops responding so do the soft keys and function buttons. The device appears to hang-up and **** the bed every once in a while. Its often enough to also drive me crazy as well.

Why is the Kaiser's screen like this?

When I first ordered my tilt, immediately after I had the fear that the screen would be like most other PDA screens - they get "depressed" when you push them in, they feel plasticy, and they go "weird" when you press on them even slightly hard. To my dismay, the phone WAS like this! A perfect example of a good screen would be the fuze, iPhone, and the at&t quickfire. The screens feel solid, and glassy. Why doesn't the Kaiser have this?

Good Question. Id suggest writing HTC Please let us know what they say

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When I first ordered my tilt, immediately after I had the fear that the screen would be like most other PDA screens - they get "depressed" when you push them in, they feel plasticy, and they go "weird" when you press on them even slightly hard. To my dismay, the phone WAS like this! A perfect example of a good screen would be the fuze, iPhone, and the at&t quickfire. The screens feel solid, and glassy. Why doesn't the Kaiser have this?
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Simple. Don't do that. There's zero problem with the Tilt screen otherwise. Light touches, moderate touches, swipes, finger, stylus, all are fine. Of course this is referring to the digitizer. What you're referring to could be a mix of both I suppose.
I don't *poke* LCDs, it's just a bad idea.

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Why doesn't the Kaiser have this?
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Digitizers like the one used on the Kaiser work by having a soft layer that when touched will warp and touch a 2nd layer slightly below it, which will sense the touch and allow finding the coordinates.
The newer screens like on the iphone use another touch sensing process, but those are very new (the iphone was the first portable device to use one AFAIK), and are only becoming widespread in the current generation - i.e. the one AFTER the Kaiser.
Simple. Don't do that. There's zero problem with the Tilt screen otherwise. Light touches, moderate touches, swipes, finger, stylus, all are fine.
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He means that even with the stylus or barely touching with the finger the digitizer will slightly "deform", which you can easily see if watching a reflection on the screen and touching it, and the related softness. It's normal and he isn't abusing it.

Hardware assemble help!!

my G1 was destroyed in a crash, so I buy new plastics+keybord+slider (all plastic parts) to assemble the hardware in the new cover.
All is going well, but after the boot I notice that the touchscreen is unusable... if I touch the screen it begin to slide or press random points that I didn't touch, for some seconds...
The touchscreen is going crazy!!
I tried to open again the G1, reconnect the cables of screen/touchscreen and restart android.. but I have the same issue..
What the hell is happening?
The touchscreen panel seems ok, it doesn't have deep scratches, and it seems that the fall has not damaged visually the touchscreen.
It is a link problem or touchscreen, or what??? Someone know?
I don't know what to do.. buy a new touchscreen for 20€?? I spent 20€ for the plastic, if I don't solve I would change device.. but the qwerty device in europe are not so good
I'm waiting for milestone3, or a samsung/HTC qwerty device with dual core and screen> 3.7"
Please help I don't want to bury my G1
EDIT:
I found this video that show a similar issue on the motorola milestone.
It is really similar to my isssue..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PNuXREuDxA
I'm thinking that perhaps touching the back of the touch panel I spoiled something, or something like that (perhaps I have to clean the back of touch panel with somthing?)
I'm going to try something, all reply are appreciated.

I find solution (hope)
The problem is the bus cable of touchscreen that is damaged.
I bought a new cable, I hope to solve this problem.
Sorry for this useless thread

[Q] swapped motherboard now touch screen un responsive

yes hello, big headaches here, bricked a g1 then got a hold of another g1 with cosmetic issues to use the motherboard, this new one was locked, so i unlocked it (using the trackball tho so i dont know if it also had a touchscreen issue to begin with)took the motherboard out of it and put it in my old g1 that i know for a fact had no touch screen issues, and now the touch screen is completely unresponsive in my original g1, so i took the mother board out again put it back in the one it came out of, and its touch screen is also completely unresponsive, my question is can the motherboard be the reason a touch screen isnt working? if so how and why?
also, the mother board i swapped works in my original g1, it has a signal, takes me to the touch the green android symbol to begin set up, also does this is the cosmetically challenged one i bought but neither one has any response to touch.
any help i would really appreciate.
thank you,
john.