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I've had my wizard for a year and it's been great however within the last 2 weeks, the stylus started to get lose and now it won't even stay in; I've already had others pick up and return my stylus to me.
Looking at the warranty card, it says there's a 2 year limited warranty while the O2 contract says 1 year. My wizard is a G3 unit (no .0001 at the end and in the info it mentions G3 somewhere) and it's sim unlocked (not sure if it's CID unlocked but it should be) and it can o/c to 260MHz stable but at 275 ... tried once it's fairly unstable.
My question is this: with g3 units apparently being the easier one to unlock and sought after (correct me if I'mwrong here), should I fix it myself or call up O2 (is the warranty period really 2 years to begin with anyway) and get them to replace it? My wizard was also just dropped by a relative (1 year and not a scratch till he drops it on the kitchen floor) and now has a few scratch marks on one side (although I want to give it a paint job, I'm a little uncertain if I should...grab and do a spare body perhaps? besides I have no paint skills).
I do also have the intention of grabbing another XDA or equivalent device later down the line but also going WM6 on the wizard before that. What should I do?
fix it yourself, not worth the extra hassle if you get a g4.
and it will be quicker, do you want to be without it while it's getting fixed for two weeks or more?
BTW it is CID locked. but o2 don't seem to bother sim locking.
http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=274
Truly...fear the G4?
So the G4 units are truly a pain to deal with? I'm just a little hesitant to rip open my mobile but...if I get a G4 unit.... I'm going to be in trouble.
I should have a torx set here but do you know if the warranty itself is for 2 years or 1 year? If the warranty is still on, where are these "warranty seals"?
to be honest, I don't really know anything about g4s. but I do know that every rom thread has someone asking if it'll work and/or that they have to strip out the ipl and spl etc (though lots of new custom roms come without those now).
I think you have to, must, pay to cid unlock.
and there is a dedicated g4 thread, which can't be a good sign
however, I just did the stylus fix and now the volume slider doesn't work, trying to fix at this moment.
read the g4 thread
also bear in mind if your current model supports 4gb sd cards you may get one that doesn't, or the other way round
If you don't want to take your device apart, there is a simpler option you could try...
Cut approx 1 inch square from a plastic carrier bag
Place this over the end of the stylus and push the stylus + plastic into the hole.
That should be it - no more dropped stylus
I used this "fix" about a year ago and still working beautifully
I wrapped a small strip of Diamond Sellotape (the clear invisible stuff) round my stylus, thus making it slightly thicker. This stopped it from dropping out all the time!
AsGF2MX said:
So the G4 units are truly a pain to deal with? I'm just a little hesitant to rip open my mobile but...if I get a G4 unit.... I'm going to be in trouble.
I should have a torx set here but do you know if the warranty itself is for 2 years or 1 year? If the warranty is still on, where are these "warranty seals"?
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It is an easy fix, I was hesitant also but in the end I just opened it up and sorted it out. Not a big deal at all.
Stripping a sharp 1080p flatpanel to turn into a home brew front projection HDTV unit is much more stressful.
Hmm...void warantee I guess...sooner or later
Stripping it isn't really something I'm too hesitant about (save for the warranty). I might try the paper bag trick for now but I might rebuild it if anyone knows where I can get custom fascias...
AsGF2MX said:
Stripping it isn't really something I'm too hesitant about (save for the warranty). I might try the paper bag trick for now but I might rebuild it if anyone knows where I can get custom fascias...
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you mean like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-ORIGINAL-02...sPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Nice and pricey
Nice but where's the D pad and softkeys? Also are there any pre-painted ones...otherwise it looks like a DiY job for me and I've never done paint jobs before. All things considered, I might just get a new fascia and fit it on as sold and try and get a skin or something until I can paint the old fascia.
Hi, it has the usual scrathes but the internals work perfectly I know this because i have plugged it in and synched with my pc. i just cant see whats going on.
Aparantly can be fixed for £70 in the uk.
Willing to post internationally.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=300092266590&rd=1&rd=1
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Hi, it has the usual scrathes but the internals work perfectly I know this because i have plugged it in and synched with my pc. i just cant see whats going on.
Aparantly can be fixed for £70 in the uk.
Willing to post internationally.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=300092266590&rd=1&rd=1
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daft question i know, why dont u just buy a new screen and fit it yourself, its easy and only around £30
firstly I dont have the experience, apparently its very tricky with soldering etc. eek.
and secondly iv bought a spv m2000 as i couldnt wait and im much happier with this phone. I thought the alpine was good! the keyboard is ace.
Almost over for this auction!
Selling my unit
xda2i with tomtom nav 5.21 (with tomtom mk2 receiver), 2gb x150speed SD card, car holder, stylus pens, screen protector the lots.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XDA-2i-with-T...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Say, could you sell the GPS receiver separately?
So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.
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Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.
Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.
Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.
@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.
Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize
Planetneo said:
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
Mysterious Stranger said:
I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
M.S
There's a craigslist ad on a used tilt with broken speakers for $80. I emailed him what happened, and he said that he dropped it. I later asked if it was repairable, and he said that its as easy as taking off the back and putting the speakers in like lego pieces. Everything is functional but that he said.
I've been looking around the forums and it looks like people fix their speakers by flashing radio, but thats software, this is hardware. So can it be fixed easily?
Tada1228 said:
I've been looking around the forums and it looks like people fix their speakers by flashing radio, but thats software, this is hardware. So can it be fixed easily?
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They'll only 'fix their speaker' by flashing, if they've put the wrong ROM/Radio combination on the device in the first place - software doesn't tend to break like hardware can and as long as it's right to start with, it usually stays that way. You can see whats required by checking out the service manual which is downloadable through the Kaiser wiki. It'd also be worth getting a price on a new speaker and any tools and consumable parts required to change it in order to help you decide if what's on offer is really such a good deal.
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There's a craigslist ad on a used tilt with broken speakers for $80. I emailed him what happened, and he said that he dropped it. I later asked if it was repairable, and he said that its as easy as taking off the back and putting the speakers in like lego pieces. Everything is functional but that he said.
I've been looking around the forums and it looks like people fix their speakers by flashing radio, but thats software, this is hardware. So can it be fixed easily?
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You will be better off paying a little more and buying a fully working phone. Look around, I have seen deals on Tilt from 125 to 200. Broken speaker is a very well noticable symptom, but some other things may be broken which you find out after buying. The hardware chips do not do well, when they experience a hard drop.
I'm selling a brand new Tilt with 4 batteries, Boxwave case w/ belt clip, USB Dock/Battery charger, wall charger and USB cable for $199 shipped.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540072
Putting it on ebay today.
Thanks for the replies, I was about to buy it too. Yeah, more hardware could've been damaged. I never thought of it that way. Oh well, I guess i'll just wait for a cheap fuze deal or something.
Hello,
so today I bought a second-hand LG optimus black that was soft-bricked and had a cracked touchscreen. Since I'm not new to android and know how to fix these things, I thought this was just another way for me to get a good phone cheap.
The problem is:
- after unbricking the phone, and installing official v10a software, there are issues with the phone - camera force closes, any of sd cards wont be recognized ("removed sd card, insert a new one" notification, never changes), the screen rotation doesn't work, there is no lockscreen, phone dialer has lags, and the screen turns on after 5-10 seconds. Otherwise it's ok.
With software v20b it also likes to hang up. Theeen you have to remove the battery
So I dissasembled it, and it seems to have short circuited somewhere on the motherboard (there is a brown spot on the metal motherboard cover plate).
I marked the area in a picture below (notice that it's right next to the SanDisk chip - i guess that organizes the memory, so it should take care of the sd card as well). Keep notice this isn't the picture of my motherboard, I will post my own photos a bit later..
Maybe it was waterdamaged, but the sticker on the battery is white :/
Please don't tell me to factory reset, or try other software or memory cards, already did that.
CWM won't detect memory cards as well.
I need any possible ideas to fix it.. do you think a reflow would have any chances to do the job? any ideas, please, will try anything..
PLEASE, help.
Some update. So I flashed software V30B, and it seems to get better - finally I get a lockscreen, and not in 10 seconds also, the accelerometer sensor is working, phone is smoother. FRONT camera is working as well, while in video call mode, yay! when turning on the camera, it has a black screen with all the buttons and camera settings, and a message that there's no sd card (although it's inserted :| ) and hangs up if I switch to front camera. Memory card still not detected..
Thinking of capturing a video to show you whats the situation.. Till then here are some photos to show you my beauty
P.S. don't be shy, guys, any ideas for fixing?..
the photos
Anyone?
I thought I would get some replies, at least maybe I was wrong
Eimantazzz said:
Anyone?
I thought I would get some replies, at least maybe I was wrong
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i am sorry, but ppl in here(p970) isnt as good as ppl on s2 or s3 thread.......
maybe on s2 there is chainfire, that undrrstand phone by hardware and software....but here....even development is on "almost dead" stage.....no stable cm, even cm7.....so sad.....
so....dont expect professional answer soon.......
and btw..try your luck on android hardware hacing thread....maybe there is some answer for you there
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i am sorry, but ppl in here(p970) isnt as good as ppl on s2 or s3 thread.......
maybe on s2 there is chainfire, that undrrstand phone by hardware and software....but here....even development is on "almost dead" stage.....no stable cm, even cm7.....so sad.....
so....dont expect professional answer soon.......
and btw..try your luck on android hardware hacing thread....maybe there is some answer for you there
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Thanks for the reply!
Well I thought I would find more hardware technicians here, but whatever..
I downloaded the service guide for optimus black, and after looking at the schematic sheets, I'm 90% sure it's "SUB PMIC CAM POWER (LP8720)" controler that's failing. It controls the 5mp camera, microSD card and motor driver (vibration) power supplying. Neither of these functions are working on my OB. So no need for hardware hackers, nothing new they can tell me. So I'm thinking of ordering this pmu, but could you tell me guys where I could get it from with normal priced shipping? Shipping time wont matter at all.. Digi-key and mouser want to charge me with 40$ shipping, while all I need is a 2$ part
Eimantazzz said:
Thanks for the reply!
Well I thought I would find more hardware technicians here, but whatever..
I downloaded the service guide for optimus black, and after looking at the schematic sheets, I'm 90% sure it's "SUB PMIC CAM POWER (LP8720)" controler that's failing. It controls the 5mp camera, microSD card and motor driver (vibration) power supplying. Neither of these functions are working on my OB. So no need for hardware hackers, nothing new they can tell me. So I'm thinking of ordering this pmu, but could you tell me guys where I could get it from with normal priced shipping? Shipping time wont matter at all.. Digi-key and mouser want to charge me with 40$ shipping, while all I need is a 2$ part
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well mate, i have no idea..... i am just normal customer, if something wrong with my phone, and i cant fix it, i always go to official service center......
but, i hope you got some luck out there, happy shopping
Makes sense. Most people don't believe that ICs are a very sensitive component.
Obviously, I can't make a theory of what's wrong on that device, as I don't have it here.
Do you have a multimeter? On the service manual you might have somewhere what to do (e.g. where to measure voltages) if some functions are not working, or did you already try that? I know the service manual always ends with "replace pcb", as usually the technical support don't actually do the repairs, they just follow what's on the manual and send the old parts to the manufacter for repairing and reassembling, but it might help you understand if you really need to replace this IC. Is there any fuse nearby, for example? Remember, a short circuit would break fuses. You can check with a multimeter whether they're damaged or not (continuity test).
There's not much I can say, really...these are just some suppositions...
Good luck with that, man
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von Mandrake said:
Makes sense. Most people don't believe that ICs are a very sensitive component.
Obviously, I can't make a theory of what's wrong on that device, as I don't have it here.
Do you have a multimeter? On the service manual you might have somewhere what to do (e.g. where to measure voltages) if some functions are not working, or did you already try that? I know the service manual always ends with "replace pcb", as usually the technical support don't actually do the repairs, they just follow what's on the manual and send the old parts to the manufacter for repairing and reassembling, but it might help you understand if you really need to replace this IC. Is there any fuse nearby, for example? Remember, a short circuit would break fuses. You can check with a multimeter whether they're damaged or not (continuity test).
There's not much I can say, really...these are just some suppositions...
Good luck with that, man
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I do have a multimeter, I'm kinda into electronics so..
Yeah, so I had a little break and checked the phone out only a few minutes ago.
The LP8720 is the problem, but its much more f..ked up than I thought..
I marked three spots on the circuit that are quite odd:
1. The place where IC U601 - LP8720 should be.
2. 2.2uH wire wound resistor L601 (MIPSZ2012D2R2 MIPSZ2012D2R2, 2.2 uH, N,2.0X1.2X1.0), not sure if it works, maybe it burnt out, my multimeter shows 0ohm on this one.
3. The place where capacitor C604 (10uF) should be.
I attached the pic of my motherboard, you'll see whats up..
The only place I can get LP8720 is alibaba.com, and the minimum quantity is 10.. that makes about 16 bucks for these. Would be worth buying and trying to fix? And another thing, it's named LP8720TLX-B, not LP8720TLX. Do you think it'll do?
I'm now thinking of taking it to a service center, ask if they could do such a job and how much would it cost..
Thanks for the replies, by the way!
Peace
Eimantazzz said:
I do have a multimeter, I'm kinda into electronics so..
Yeah, so I had a little break and checked the phone out only a few minutes ago.
The LP8720 is the problem, but its much more f..ked up than I thought..
I marked three spots on the circuit that are quite odd:
1. The place where IC U601 - LP8720 should be.
2. 2.2uH wire wound resistor L601 (MIPSZ2012D2R2 MIPSZ2012D2R2, 2.2 uH, N,2.0X1.2X1.0), not sure if it works, maybe it burnt out, my multimeter shows 0ohm on this one.
3. The place where capacitor C604 (10uF) should be.
I attached the pic of my motherboard, you'll see whats up..
The only place I can get LP8720 is alibaba.com, and the minimum quantity is 10.. that makes about 16 bucks for these. Would be worth buying and trying to fix? And another thing, it's named LP8720TLX-B, not LP8720TLX. Do you think it'll do?
I'm now thinking of taking it to a service center, ask if they could do such a job and how much would it cost..
Thanks for the replies, by the way!
Peace
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Hey man,
keep an open mind
What makes you so sure that this IC is damaged?
Think: if the nearby components are damaged, then this IC may behave differently (or may not work at all). We don't need math to think this.
But yes, it can be damaged, but since this is the most expensive component, I think it is really worth checking the others first.
Anyway, answering your topics:
1. Everything looks fine. Good ^^
2. Yes, it's probably damaged. An inductor is supposed to have resistance, but not much. For this one, 0.23 ± 30% Ohm.
Source (datasheet): http://www.fdk.co.jp/cyber-e/pdf/CD-TCE070.pdf
3. Fortunately, this is an easy one. If in doubt, just replace it.
Now, for the headache...LP8720TLX-B and LP8720TLX might be the same IC, but the only way to know this is by comparing their datasheets.
16 bucks is a lot to pay for a component (yeah, it's 10 of them, but it's still a lot). But this is actually your call...are you willing to pay 16 usd for an IC? If it was me, and I was entirely sure it would fix everything, I would probably buy them, but then...like I said, your call.
I think it's worth taking it to a service center, but if they truly follow the service manual, they will tell you they need to replace the entire pcb. But I really think it's worth to try, you never know.
Good luck