Hi all,
Please excuse my ignorance, I have searched this site for this question, but not found it... Sorry if it has been posted previously.
I am looking to buy a HTC Touch Diamond, but am I worth getting the Orange version (original?) or the O2 version (XDA Ignito)? The only difference I can see is the back cover and some additional software which the great people on here have far superior anyway ... Am I missing something?
Also, are the older versions (see site at bottom) still available? - the ones that have 128MB RAM instead of the advertised 192MB?
I'm looking to get this handset from a cash-back site so expect that they may be using old stocks... Is there any way to tell without opening the box (so it can be returned without question under the distance selling regulations)?
Thanks for any help.
Aubs
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/05/07/htc_touch_diamond_in_action_video
I work for O2 and i've used our demo version of the diamond quite a lot and I also own the Orange one.
I bought the Orange one off ebay instead of waiting for the O2 branded one and I have to say the build quality on the O2 seems far more solid. The buttons feel sort of.. firmer.. and the back is much nicer than the faceted one.
I wish i'd waited for the XDA version to be honest =']
Hi Sherby,
Thanks for your comment I can't see how there could be a difference with the buttons or build quality, I thought that would have been something HTC created not modified by O2... I appreciate the back cover as it just slides off... Will have to pay Orange and O2 another visit Thanks!
Aubs
Also.. the O2 version is slightly more glossy around the edges than the Orange one which is just matte.
Sherby said:
Also.. the O2 version is slightly more glossy around the edges than the Orange one which is just matte.
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Ahh ok. Don't think I'm that bothered about the glossy or matte though, could put up with either
Any idea about finding the hardware version?
Thanks again
Aubs
I have the o2 version, simply because I didn't favour the original diamond shaped back. Device information page attached...
Thanks for that GanjaBlood - I was considering the same, but if you can just remove and replace the back facia then it isn't really an issue... They'll be on fleebay soon!
The Ignito battery cover won't fit the Diamond. The corners are different for starters.
ruffage said:
The Ignito battery cover won't fit the Diamond. The corners are different for starters.
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That is something I didn't know... Thanks Ruffage.
[EDIT] Sorry, just seen the 'accessories' forum... Please ignore the question below, hopefully it's answered there [/EDIT]
Does anyone know if the replacement batteries that O2 are apparently selling will fit into the Orange TD?
Thanks for everyone's responses.
Aubs
Related
I just purchased an SPV M1500. Is this the same as the XDA IIi? I bought it already unlocked. Are there any differences in the ROM besides splash screens / logos? Is there a way to put the O2 XDA IIi ROM on this device?
Last question... I bought it from someone in the UK, and I live in the US, I currently subscribe to Cingular Wireless. Has anyone had issues with this?
Any reply would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Brock
Same device, slightly different looks.
All Alpine ROMs will work and the splash images etc can all be changed, at ROM upgrade or later. Find a ROM you want and follow instructions.
The device is tri-band so long as you live in an area where you don't need quad band you'll be OK.
Any more questions, there are plenty of people here to ask, just don't ask the dreaded WM5 question, the answer will be NO.
Good luck.
LOL!! I got that loud and clear. I thought people were supposed to be reading through the forum for their answer before posting stupid/redundant questions??? NO WM5, at least yet. I don't have a desire for that right now anyways. What would be the benefit?
The earth is so small. You know what, you have bought the phone from me on ebay, Brock Miller. Have you received the phone yet? I could give you help on upgrading the phone, if you needed it. At the moment, if you wanted the latest rom, then it is imate PDA2 ROM.
Nam? Oh my gosh!!! I can't believe you frequent this site as well? Wow... Thats cool. It is indeed a small world. No I haven't received the SPV-1500 yet, I was just asking a few questions about it before hand. I can't wait to get it though. I'll drop you an e-mail when it comes in. Have a good one!
It's nice to meet you here as well. The phone will arrive very soon. Keep the eyes on your work place, you will need to sign for it. Give me a sound when you need helps and have fun with the phone.
Yes! It was.
Will I personally have to sign for it? Or can my shipping department sign for it?
Also, what phone do you have now?
as long as you could arrange someone to sign for it, then that's fine. I think I just buy a cheap phone for now, untill the new HTC Muse comes out. This would be the best phone ever.
Except for the 4GB of storage, and the camera it looks like the HTC Universal has better specs. Why the muse? I really would have liked to have bought an HTC Universal, but I couldn't find any that were reasonably priced, .
Simply, because it is very compact, has everything that I wanted. I originally had the VPA compact which is HTC Magician, but it doesn't have wifi built in that why I sold it. I also did have HTC Universal ( SPV M5000 ) once and I do not advice you to get one. No only because of the price ( I got it for £250 ), it is also very very slow ( before buy it, I thought it would be very fast, but it's not, even slower than HTC wizard ) and bloody massive. I had it for one day and sold it the next day, you can imagine how dissapointed I was.
The only good thing about the HTC Universal is the infrared transfer speed ( 4mb/s ) and range ( 7 metres ) which is good for TV remote control softwares. However, that is not good enough for the price.
Wow, that would be very diappointing. What did you not like about the HTC Alpine? Too bulky also?
The HTC Alpine is not as big as the HTC Universal and HTC Blue Angle ( actually it is quite compact for such a powerful device ), has wifi built in, powerful processor ( don't be confused with the Intel PXA 270 520MHZ of HTC Universal, it is Intel PXA 272 520MHZ ) and better bluetooth than other HTC device ( support file transfer service and more ). The only thing that I do not like about it is that the infared range is too short ( 70 cm ) for Remote control programs which is the same on other HTC devices, except for the HTC Universal ( 7 metres ) and HTC magian ( 3 metres ) ( that's why I sold it ). But if you can live with it, then the HTC Alpine is the best Mobile Phone/Pocket PC to have at the moment in term of features and price.
I just received the SPV M1500!! Even though you tried, the power adapters that you sent were the wrong kind. The U.S. uses 110 V. Also, all looks ok, but it showed more wear than I thought it would. There was a scratch on the screen, a tiny crack just above the "joystick" hole, and the external antenna port hole cap is missing (not a huge deal, just doesn't look as good with out it). Do you know if TomTom has a US map available to buy?
As my description the phone is used. I am so sorry, if it dissapointed you. TOMTOM and USA map are already included on the DVD, just follow the installation guide that is also in the in the box. Let me know anything that I could help you with. I will try to find the cover at the back for you, if I could not find it, then I would refund you some money, so you could get a new silicon case for it. Really sorry.
No way!! No this is fine. Its still a very nice phone. If you can find the cover, that would be nice, but I don't expect a refund by any means. I still got a good price. I need to find an AC adapter for this cradle though. I imagine that won't be too hard to come by, I just hope it doesn't cost too terribly much. Thanks again for the phone. I am overall pleased. It is so much better than my Wallaby. Also, I can charge it in the wallaby cradle for now. I was lucky, it fits, not quite right, but good enough. Thanks again. Also, I see where there is indeed USA maps with TomTom included. Sorry about that.
Brock
Or can I just send you some softwares in return? Just name the softwares, I will find them for you. I am now selling some softwares for pocket pc on ebay, just take a look, if you like them, let me know I will send them to you. Also I just find out that if you installed Imate PDA2 ROM UPDATE, the infrared range will be incresed to about 3 metres. If you was not so sure how to install ROM UPDATE, let me know, I will give you the web link with installation guide.
Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor
Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor
All HTC Alpine devices have the same hardwares. Therefore, it is possible to change ROM between different made like Imate, Qtek, Orange, etc. However, you must follow some steps to avoid Country ID error.
hi guys.
somw one who ordered from expansys pls confirm me whats int he box.
exactly wonna confirm about case & screen protector..
urgent
thanx in advance
Hello,
There is a screen protector, but no case...
Philippe
phlucas said:
Hello,
There is a screen protector, but no case...
Philippe
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thanx a lot
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thanx a lot
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I don't think any of them come with a case. I find that strange seeing as all previous HTC Touch models came with a carry case and I find this one to be more prone to fingerprint markings, etc because of its shiny case so I would've expected it to come with a carry case/cleaning thingie
confirmed that's no case but with screen protector. (Malaysia)
mkhattab said:
I don't think any of them come with a case. I find that strange seeing as all previous HTC Touch models came with a carry case and I find this one to be more prone to fingerprint markings, etc because of its shiny case so I would've expected it to come with a carry case/cleaning thingie
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Maybe they want users to choose between a normal case and that special cleaning case with microfibres. Some people would undoubtedly complain if they were forced to pay a little more to get a cheap case that they don't want.
So are there any nice cases available already (Vaja... etc.)?
Strangely there isnt a user manual that comes with the sales package. Only a quick start mini booklet. anyone facing this problem? (Malaysia)
idesmond said:
Strangely there isnt a user manual that comes with the sales package. Only a quick start mini booklet. anyone facing this problem? (Malaysia)
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You can find the [VERY DETAILED] user manual on one of the two CDs in the box (under the glossy flat top cover)
I see. So the manual is in a PDF format and not a physical copy right?
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I see. So the manual is in a PDF format and not a physical copy right?
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Yes, just a PDF.
Well.. How do ya think HTC managed to have a lower starting price than the Cruise when it first launched?
It's all abt cutting costs...
No case, no manual, no car kit.. No cam/voice commander buttons, smaller batt, no microSD slot..
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Well.. How do ya think HTC managed to have a lower starting price than the Cruise when it first launched?
It's all abt cutting costs...
No case, no manual, no car kit.. No cam/voice commander buttons, smaller batt, no microSD slot..
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A few corrections:
- With the Cruise you had the option of buying it with or without car kit. In the local market here, the starting price for the Cruise without car kit and the Diamond is exactly the same
- No manual. My Cruise also came with a soft copy of the manual- no printed manual.
- No MicroSD slot but you have 4GB internal memory which must have cost more to make then the Cruise internal memory
- 3D drivers (even if they exist but are not working on the Cruise) as well as more development costs for the interface considering the Cruise has exactly the same interface as older HTC phones
- If you get down to detail, the box of the Diamond probably cost more to make because its shape is unique and not off the HTC mass production line seeing as the Cruise, Dual, Elf, TyTn II and others all have the same form factor of the cardboard box
mkhattab said:
A few corrections:
- With the Cruise you had the option of buying it with or without car kit. In the local market here, the starting price for the Cruise without car kit and the Diamond is exactly the same
- No manual. My Cruise also came with a soft copy of the manual- no printed manual.
- No MicroSD slot but you have 4GB internal memory which must have cost more to make then the Cruise internal memory
- 3D drivers (even if they exist but are not working on the Cruise) as well as more development costs for the interface considering the Cruise has exactly the same interface as older HTC phones
- If you get down to detail, the box of the Diamond probably cost more to make because its shape is unique and not off the HTC mass production line seeing as the Cruise, Dual, Elf, TyTn II and others all have the same form factor of the cardboard box
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Well bro.. I totally agree with your statements.
We in singapore didn't have a choice to get the Cruise without the car kit. And if I'm not wrong.. I did get the full manual booklet. Probably catered to different markets.
I can assure you that there is cost down on the Diamond production compared to the Cruise... it's just that it's been done VERY nicely - thats good work on HTC. Thats how the electronics industry survive... Cost cutting. I used to be consumer electronics industry.. so I'm pretty sure of it
Hows Dubai btw? Was thinking of migrating there... too crowded here in SG.
From Hong Kong, Diamons Shaped box: No case, screen protector.
As the title suggests...
I put my original one on as soon as I took the phone out of its box, but unfortunately I did it slightly squint!
It has now started gathering dust on the bit thats slightly off, so I want to replace it. Where can I find an official HTC one?
Here
- http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=163065 ...
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Christophe - Smartphone France
http://www.smartphonefrance.info/
thanks...
They can't expect them to last very long since they're selling them in packs of 6!
At least it'll give me a couple of shots at sticking them on straight!
wow those are pretty expensive.......
better off getting some off ebay =)
I don't know if its just me, but the 2 times I tried looking through the HTC Store site it ctashed my Diamond?!
I was looking at the extended battery with new back cover!
Also... the dock says it has removable inserts for the standard and extended covers
You can also look here for a pack of two!
Can anyone tell me the difference between the SP P100 and the ST P170 versions?!
The SP P100 is £20.95 for 5 and the ST P170 is £27.95 for 6 and is pre-order.
Perhaps its thicker?
why don't you post in diamond accessories? this is not the place!
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why don't you post in diamond accessories? this is not the place!
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Why don't you stop moaning at other people who use the forum
Does anyone already thought about debranding his compact iv? I'm talking about debranding the case/shell. Not the software.
I had the compact III earlier and was able to get rid of the "MDA" and "T-Mobile" printing with a sugarcube. But using this method would surely mess up the shiny surface.
So, any ideas anyone?
yeah,
first flashing hardspl, then loading one of the many custom roms (or even the original htc one).
i wanted to do that tonight with my mda 4, but I don't know if or how I can flash back the original spl for warrenty reasons. (the original rom would be no problem). I'm waiting for an answer in an other thread, if there is something like a branded spl.
maybe some can help me out here ?
What is the SPL ver on the phone?
Hi,
you people aren't really reading before you post, hm?
The OP asked how to remove the branding on the casing, _not the (butt-ugly) software_
Please READ before you post.
AhNe: I'm sorry, I don't have a clue, I doubt it's possible, the silver coating for the logos is under the glass layer, so there's probably nothing you can do without taking apart the whole phone
sorry but didn't thought some one could mean the case, how would this be possible. my suggestion, if you like the case design, sell your mda on ebay and import an unbranded P3702 Victor from taiwan. they should be on regular sale there soon.
thx cptsunshine
Yeah, well I guess I gotta sell it and get a original HTC branded then.. or just live with the fugly MDA, T-Mobile stuff.
Thanks for the reply though!
has anyone any ideas where to get a digitizer for the Topaz? Found one on ebay but it doesnt look like it would fit Diamond II...
any help appreciated
You've broken yours already?
Doubt you will have parts available anytime soon!
no i'm not that bad with phones
my touch hd is safe and sound, just bought a broken diamond 2 as a diy project but i guess will have to leave it on the shelf for a good while..
Found this for you:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOUCH-SCREEN-...s=66:2|65:16|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
Is it same one you were looking at?
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Found this for you:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOUCH-SCREEN-DIGITIZER-FOR-HTC-TOUCH-DIAMOND-2-II-T535X_W0QQitemZ310140666773QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item310140666773&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A16|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
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For me this two digitizer have the same size, so how can this fit on diamond2?
So awkward!
Good point! Maybe it should be described as Diamond 1 digitizer styled like Diamond 2
actually just bought that one
was in talks with the seller because he had another one listed as diamond II but now he assures me this is the right one...will wait and see I suppose..
Just got my broken D2 in the post, looks great, nice design, decent size but would never trade my HD for it
if you could post pictures etc on how you get the housing off id appreciate it as id probably want to do this down the line.
will do once I do that myself will have to google it first I suppose...
Waiting for my digitizer to come in the post, will start my DIY project then
got the digitizer, turns out to be the wrong one, they still dont have any in stock for Diamond II
but managed to hook up the DII using Pocket Controller, works a treat
bluetooth mouse and keyboard can be connected to it no problem using Blueinput, all I have to do now is figure out how to control the DII from my HD
I search one too... I mailed tens of sellers on ebay and they can't provide me this...
I eventually gave up and sold it on
got an omnia hd now, will see whats that like
I puts back him on sale because I have to repair my Touch Pro :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=110412407398
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has anyone any ideas where to get a digitizer for the Topaz? Found one on ebay but it doesnt look like it would fit Diamond II...
any help appreciated
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http://www.lelong.com.my/enjoys-lcd...amond2-ii-t5353-sp-K808338-2007-01-Sale-I.htm
you've seen the date?