hi guys.
somw one who ordered from expansys pls confirm me whats int he box.
exactly wonna confirm about case & screen protector..
urgent
thanx in advance
Hello,
There is a screen protector, but no case...
Philippe
phlucas said:
Hello,
There is a screen protector, but no case...
Philippe
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thanx a lot
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thanx a lot
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I don't think any of them come with a case. I find that strange seeing as all previous HTC Touch models came with a carry case and I find this one to be more prone to fingerprint markings, etc because of its shiny case so I would've expected it to come with a carry case/cleaning thingie
confirmed that's no case but with screen protector. (Malaysia)
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I don't think any of them come with a case. I find that strange seeing as all previous HTC Touch models came with a carry case and I find this one to be more prone to fingerprint markings, etc because of its shiny case so I would've expected it to come with a carry case/cleaning thingie
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Maybe they want users to choose between a normal case and that special cleaning case with microfibres. Some people would undoubtedly complain if they were forced to pay a little more to get a cheap case that they don't want.
So are there any nice cases available already (Vaja... etc.)?
Strangely there isnt a user manual that comes with the sales package. Only a quick start mini booklet. anyone facing this problem? (Malaysia)
idesmond said:
Strangely there isnt a user manual that comes with the sales package. Only a quick start mini booklet. anyone facing this problem? (Malaysia)
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You can find the [VERY DETAILED] user manual on one of the two CDs in the box (under the glossy flat top cover)
I see. So the manual is in a PDF format and not a physical copy right?
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I see. So the manual is in a PDF format and not a physical copy right?
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Yes, just a PDF.
Well.. How do ya think HTC managed to have a lower starting price than the Cruise when it first launched?
It's all abt cutting costs...
No case, no manual, no car kit.. No cam/voice commander buttons, smaller batt, no microSD slot..
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Well.. How do ya think HTC managed to have a lower starting price than the Cruise when it first launched?
It's all abt cutting costs...
No case, no manual, no car kit.. No cam/voice commander buttons, smaller batt, no microSD slot..
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A few corrections:
- With the Cruise you had the option of buying it with or without car kit. In the local market here, the starting price for the Cruise without car kit and the Diamond is exactly the same
- No manual. My Cruise also came with a soft copy of the manual- no printed manual.
- No MicroSD slot but you have 4GB internal memory which must have cost more to make then the Cruise internal memory
- 3D drivers (even if they exist but are not working on the Cruise) as well as more development costs for the interface considering the Cruise has exactly the same interface as older HTC phones
- If you get down to detail, the box of the Diamond probably cost more to make because its shape is unique and not off the HTC mass production line seeing as the Cruise, Dual, Elf, TyTn II and others all have the same form factor of the cardboard box
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A few corrections:
- With the Cruise you had the option of buying it with or without car kit. In the local market here, the starting price for the Cruise without car kit and the Diamond is exactly the same
- No manual. My Cruise also came with a soft copy of the manual- no printed manual.
- No MicroSD slot but you have 4GB internal memory which must have cost more to make then the Cruise internal memory
- 3D drivers (even if they exist but are not working on the Cruise) as well as more development costs for the interface considering the Cruise has exactly the same interface as older HTC phones
- If you get down to detail, the box of the Diamond probably cost more to make because its shape is unique and not off the HTC mass production line seeing as the Cruise, Dual, Elf, TyTn II and others all have the same form factor of the cardboard box
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Well bro.. I totally agree with your statements.
We in singapore didn't have a choice to get the Cruise without the car kit. And if I'm not wrong.. I did get the full manual booklet. Probably catered to different markets.
I can assure you that there is cost down on the Diamond production compared to the Cruise... it's just that it's been done VERY nicely - thats good work on HTC. Thats how the electronics industry survive... Cost cutting. I used to be consumer electronics industry.. so I'm pretty sure of it
Hows Dubai btw? Was thinking of migrating there... too crowded here in SG.
From Hong Kong, Diamons Shaped box: No case, screen protector.
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thanks thanks
fake what ?
simple.. go to jwelery shop. hehe
what he mean is original or dublicate
i think he means a cheapo copy
as it won't belong before they have them comming from china
knowing the chinnese they have already copyed it
liamhere said:
as it won't belong before they have them comming from china
knowing the chinnese they have already copyed it
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there is a chance that the'll do it even better from the original!
If they are anything like the iPhone copies I wouldnt hold me breath! Its bound to happen tho!
what about registering at htc e-club... ?
or do you mean before buying the device?
Looks like they mean BEFORE purchasing the device.
Eg how do you know the device is fake?
From what ive seen of the iPhone fakes they are pretty obvious but ive yet to see a copy of the Diamond. The iPhone fakes looked kinda ok, but the software on them wasnt very good at all. (check YouTube for some examples!)
I guess it would be obvious from where you purchased it from eg eBay (thats where they usually are for sale!)
its been done.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/16/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cxxv-touch-diamond-gets-aped-sans-lu/
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CECT-DIAMOND-...yZ138480QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
it is simple look for HTC logo between screen and buttons ... this copy obviously doesn`t have it and thinking about it they can`t put it there because then it would be crime and they could be prosecuted for it ...
Even the box is styled like the Diamonds with -"CECT Smart Mobility" on it! (not high quality plastic like the original Diamonds box, hehe!) They have even left the HTC logo on the phone on the box artwork!
Cheeky fellows!
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it is simple look for HTC logo between screen and buttons ... this copy obviously doesn`t have it and thinking about it they can`t put it there because then it would be crime and they could be prosecuted for it ...
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The problem is when they put pictures of the real Diamond and then send you one of those fakes Anyway just avoid ebaying expensive items to sellers with less than 1000 votes and you should be confident that they are selling what they are showing on the pics.
yep ensure for buyers protection and you won`t have a problem at all ... you can always contact e-bay about buying fake item
aragornol said:
yep ensure for buyers protection and you won`t have a problem at all ... you can always contact e-bay about buying fake item
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They learned their leason with loius vuitton.
He's using an htc image to sell the fake diamond J6. I reported that guy to ebay.
i hate faked hardware
here you will find some fakes....
www.eemobi.cn
http://www.solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=1661
Chinese Fakes
To make matters worse, the copies have dual sim capabilities and micro sd expansion!! Clever Chinese.
Is there Windows Media installed on the clones?
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Is there Windows Media installed on the clones?
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I don't think they have windows mobile installed.
what's the best, cheapest replacement for the TyTN II?
-don't need GPS
-don't need wi-fi
-don't need good camera
-**DO NOT NEED pull out keyboard.
so far the pharos is looking good, any suggestions? (i plan to unlock so i can use with att)
(broke my tilt, and cant afford a replacement of $400)
thanks!!
how about the Elf or Elfin?
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how about the Elf or Elfin?
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That's what i was thinking as well. If you don't need a Pocket PC, then just go for a Smartphone which is usually cheaper.
Btw, what part of the Tilt broke?
i just want a big screen with touch capabilities, and simple is the word here..just really sick of sliders and want a candybar that doesnt look like a blackberry/motorola Q/etc
-btw my tilt wont charge the battery after i fixed the redlight issue.. tried with different batteries and chargers
also is the elf just the HTC touch, but only able to be used with ATT (as the touch cannot i think)? would the majority of ROMS from the Touch work on elf? sorry for so many questions !
Elf = Touch
Elfin = Touch Enhanced
theromanone said:
i just want a big screen with touch capabilities, and simple is the word here..just really sick of sliders and want a candybar that doesnt look like a blackberry/motorola Q/etc
-btw my tilt wont charge the battery after i fixed the redlight issue.. tried with different batteries and chargers
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Unless you bought the Tilt from the first day it was out, you should still have warranty on it so have you tried calling them at 1800-801-1101 and asking for a replacement?
already did, but the sticker on the back is pink from when i tried to clean the metal prongs. att said this was "water damage" and said they couldnt replace it.
theromanone said:
what's the best, cheapest replacement for the TyTN II?
-don't need GPS
-don't need wi-fi
-don't need good camera
-**DO NOT NEED pull out keyboard.
so far the pharos is looking good, any suggestions? (i plan to unlock so i can use with att)
(broke my tilt, and cant afford a replacement of $400)
thanks!!
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How about this one: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16072
that wont work in the US, as it doesnt have GSM 850/1900
theromanone said:
i just want a big screen with touch capabilities, and simple is the word here..just really sick of sliders and want a candybar that doesnt look like a blackberry/motorola Q/etc
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Get an iphone
haha, actually that'd be my overall choice over even the tilt, but i cant afford the $700 over two years that i need to pay in internet usage. i can honestly say i've never had the need or want to ever use the internet away from my laptop.
Why not have a shop repair the Tilt?
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i can honestly say i've never had the need or want to ever use the internet away from my laptop.
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I use the internet often while on the move. Sometimes it's just for receiving or sending emails. I guess you don't often travel on public transport or you'd find mobile internet tremendously valuable in terms of journey planning.
As far as your Tilt is concerned, even if you cant get it covered under the warranty, there's still a good chance a phone repair shop or HTCs repair centre could resurect it for you at a moderate cost and often they only charge a small fee to find out an estimated cost of repair. In short, not much to lose but potentially much (in savings) to gain.
Why dont you buy a wizard you can pick them up pretty cheap and they will do almost everything the tilt can do.
-McMex
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I use the internet often while on the move. Sometimes it's just for receiving or sending emails. I guess you don't often travel on public transport or you'd find mobile internet tremendously valuable in terms of journey planning.
As far as your Tilt is concerned, even if you cant get it covered under the warranty, there's still a good chance a phone repair shop or HTCs repair centre could resurect it for you at a moderate cost and often they only charge a small fee to find out an estimated cost of repair. In short, not much to lose but potentially much (in savings) to gain.
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well, i'm in college and maybe send one email every two weeks, furthest i go is the furthest bar which is 15 minutes walking distance haha .
*Where can i send my tilt to get it fixed exactly, is there an address or website I can go to? I left my car at home while i'm at school so driving is not an option..
hi.
someone might call me a heretic, but if You look for something really cheap and if it's got to be fairly simple, then nokia N70 is the nice choice if You can live w/o winmo and touchscreen.
pros:
price, candybar, camera (nice pictures and video far better from kaiser), loads of apps/games (believe me or not, but it can emulate gba almost perfectly on it's 200 mhz cpu), fm radio, price?
cons:
no touchscreen, no wm (hm... I wonder if that's something bad...)
otherwise I would say: wizard or hermes
br
bro
HTC Touch HD - largest touchscreen HTC do.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64790
It does however have a 5MP camera fitted to it...
Another option is the iphone3g
id rather not have a qwerty keyboard, pointless if you have touchscreen to me. i can upgrade in march/april i think, so if i cant fix my tilt i'll just part it for $50-80, sell my n93 for $125, and use that to buy a phone that'll last me until then.. either a n73, elf 3452, sony k790... i have no idea. everything would be much better if my tilt could be fixed!!
theromanone said:
Where can i send my tilt to get it fixed exactly, is there an address or website I can go to? I left my car at home while i'm at school so driving is not an option..
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How about starting at www.htc.com and following that through - thats how I found the repair centres address here in the UK. You'll need to phone up and book it in with them first though.
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id rather not have a qwerty keyboard, pointless if you have touchscreen to me. i can upgrade in march/april i think, so if i cant fix my tilt i'll just part it for $50-80, sell my n93 for $125, and use that to buy a phone that'll last me until then.. either a n73, elf 3452, sony k790... i have no idea. everything would be much better if my tilt could be fixed!!
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I wasnt aware the new Touch HD had a qwerty keyboard or in fact any keyboard, will have to double check.
i will give my tilt, (it's in mint condition) and a black crystal cover (even some bucks) for an htc tytnII even with scratches or little dents (not on the screen).
thank you
ken
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...Are you serious?
i am completely serious... i know that noone want to do this but i'll ask...
are you selling your tilt at all?..if so how much?
i want to swap my tilt with a kaiser but if noone comes out i'll sell it an buy a kaiser. i'll sell it for 420USD + shipping (420USD is likely 320Euros).
It has a black crystal cover, 3.5" headphone adapter with mic., it's in MINT condition and always had a screen protector on it.
errrr .... no
sorry!
edit: nm - I miss-read your post
Why sell it ?
if you need the second camera, there is a mod here on the forums will show you how to add it , and software wise there are so many roms here , that i am sure one of them will fit your needs,
BTW not to rain on your parade, the going price here in the states is about $300 more or less
i know what you ar sayin but i can't find a front camera nowhere in the forum nor in fleabay, i searched everywhere and offered a bounty if someone find it but noone answered, maybe u can tell me more, i'm very addicted to my kaiser i dont want to sell mine but i have to if i dont find a solution.
You must be proud of your tilt.
Here are some good links to read, but i have not found the thread that has step by step instructions for adding the camera....give me a bit to find it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355587&highlight=front+camera
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2146400&postcount=18
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=791306&native_or_pdf=pdf
more info
http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1407907-1.html
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1407907
Lets us know if you find it.....
FYI I know there was a thread for doing this, but search is not bring it up
I will sell you my TYTN II for 200 euros. Ita in mint condition with a lot of added applications (tom tom 7 with maps, skyfire, memmaid etc. Also I have the desktop charger and case.
@ F2504x4: the thread on howardforums is what i saw for making an idea on what i have to do. if you take apart your tilt you will find a chip where the front cam have to go inserted, and then you have to buy a new front face cover with the cam cover. the mobo already has the connector for the front cam it's a plug'n'play thing. but i cant find the cam nowhere in the wole internet!!!
@leon sprouse: i know you want to sell me your tytnII the price is so good but i have to sell my tilt first because i have no money to afford yours
anyways thank you for the advice and for the time giving to me
ken
@chumley EX: i am very proud and satysfied of my tilt but i live in Italy and my girlfriend whant to videocall me because i work far away from home
Does it transform or something different than the other Tilts or is the proudness you have for the phone the reasoning behind the jacked up price?
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Does it transform or something different than the other Tilts or is the proudness you have for the phone the reasoning behind the jacked up price?
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are you A Professional thread crapper?
I don't think he is, but $450 for a Tilt... I bought my Tytn 2 with 2 extra batteries and an additional pouch for $430 6 months ago. Tilts were already going for $350 at that time
@chumley EX: why don't you chill out boy? i'm just tryin to sell my tilt!
Maybe the price is too high, maybe i can sell it for lower but if i sell my tilt for lower i can't buy a tytnII because it is more expensive
i can sell it for no less than 250€
has anyone any ideas where to get a digitizer for the Topaz? Found one on ebay but it doesnt look like it would fit Diamond II...
any help appreciated
You've broken yours already?
Doubt you will have parts available anytime soon!
no i'm not that bad with phones
my touch hd is safe and sound, just bought a broken diamond 2 as a diy project but i guess will have to leave it on the shelf for a good while..
Found this for you:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOUCH-SCREEN-...s=66:2|65:16|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
Is it same one you were looking at?
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Found this for you:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOUCH-SCREEN-DIGITIZER-FOR-HTC-TOUCH-DIAMOND-2-II-T535X_W0QQitemZ310140666773QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item310140666773&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A16|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
Is it same one you were looking at?
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For me this two digitizer have the same size, so how can this fit on diamond2?
So awkward!
Good point! Maybe it should be described as Diamond 1 digitizer styled like Diamond 2
actually just bought that one
was in talks with the seller because he had another one listed as diamond II but now he assures me this is the right one...will wait and see I suppose..
Just got my broken D2 in the post, looks great, nice design, decent size but would never trade my HD for it
if you could post pictures etc on how you get the housing off id appreciate it as id probably want to do this down the line.
will do once I do that myself will have to google it first I suppose...
Waiting for my digitizer to come in the post, will start my DIY project then
got the digitizer, turns out to be the wrong one, they still dont have any in stock for Diamond II
but managed to hook up the DII using Pocket Controller, works a treat
bluetooth mouse and keyboard can be connected to it no problem using Blueinput, all I have to do now is figure out how to control the DII from my HD
I search one too... I mailed tens of sellers on ebay and they can't provide me this...
I eventually gave up and sold it on
got an omnia hd now, will see whats that like
I puts back him on sale because I have to repair my Touch Pro :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=110412407398
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has anyone any ideas where to get a digitizer for the Topaz? Found one on ebay but it doesnt look like it would fit Diamond II...
any help appreciated
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http://www.lelong.com.my/enjoys-lcd...amond2-ii-t5353-sp-K808338-2007-01-Sale-I.htm
you've seen the date?
Greetings
I just bought a TyTN II from ebay.. I thought it would be a nice addition to my ever so small collection of PDA's, and it was relatively cheap.
Here's the link (remove spaces):
ht tp://c gi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260569169356#ht_3409wt_1276
Now, the seller claims it to be 100% oem, but I'm not completely sure.. In case it's a knockoff, I'll use Paypal to get my refund
So my question is, what do you guys think? is this the real deal, or just another fake TyTN II? I've heard about the knockoffs, but I havn't seen anyone.
You call that cheap? That's the real deal though.
yeah well, it's about 1/4 of retail price back in the days it's not too bad for nice little gadget like that
the auction doesn't display any photos of the actual phone, but I'm pretty confident that it's a legit OEM phone by the description, price and the claims made by the seller that it's "100% brand new & genuine or money return", even though it ships from HONG KONG
Anyway, what would a knockoff be like? and what's the price for one of those? What would one look for, in order to spot the knockoffs?
Cheers
Sorry for bumping this thread, but can anyone else confirm this is the real deal, so I can have some peace of mind?
Show us some real picks of it and we will tell you 100%
We know about this phone not the knock off's. If it doesn't look like the one in the pics then it's not what it says it is. It's a 3 year old phone, I wouldn't worry so much about knock off's.
Well, that would be like getting a picture from e.g t-mobile of the specific device you're gonna order. The seller is a powerseller with several (10+ in description) htc tytn II's.. When I ask him he keeps reassuring me that the phone is as described with official specs and pics from HTC and that it's 100 % brand new & genuine.
Would you feel good about this, or would you prepare for a full refund?
Well, I just got my Kaiser Eventhough it's a KAIS100, it has a front camera in addition to the rear-facing one. HTC could confirm it was the real deal, but... i think about the ONLY thing OEM in the package was the phone.... There were 3 chargers in the package (none of which fit !!!!) and i'm not too sure about the battery which said DynaPack on the outer side, and had å chrome-like inner side.
and btw, the battery is behaving weird. the phone takes a very long time to charge. lets say i have 50% battery, and i start charging for 30 min, and i end up with 55% battery.. then i reset my phone, and upon boot i all of a sudden have 82% (for instance)... i don't know if it's just old, or fake..
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Well, I just got my Kaiser Eventhough it's a KAIS100, it has a front camera in addition to the rear-facing one. HTC could confirm it was the real deal, but... i think about the ONLY thing OEM in the package was the phone.... There were 3 chargers in the package (none of which fit !!!!) and i'm not too sure about the battery which said DynaPack on the outer side, and had å chrome-like inner side.
and btw, the battery is behaving weird. the phone takes a very long time to charge. lets say i have 50% battery, and i start charging for 30 min, and i end up with 55% battery.. then i reset my phone, and upon boot i all of a sudden have 82% (for instance)... i don't know if it's just old, or fake..
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I have had three batteries so far for my Kaiser. One was the " chrome type " back, that was the original and the other two were cheap replacement batteries that were all black except for the terminals. They all worked the same.
I would just buy a new battery , seeing as the phone is new to you. Might as well start out with a new battery too.. If HTC ran the serial number and says the phone is legit, I wouldn't worry about wether it is real or not.
DENNCCOOOO
What he said.
Well, it seems its actually a modified AT&T Tilt with a added front camera. Void seals were broken, I think both front and backcover is fake, and the voicedialbutton doesn't show a image of a "speech bubble" but PTT (which seems to be used on AT&T phones)
An ATT Tilt is still a Kaiser..
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An ATT Tilt is still a Kaiser..
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Ok, a Kaiser has a front camera, does the Tilt?
That's pretty strange, they replaced everything but the insides? The Keyboard isn't from a tilt (as far as I could tell).
ChumleyEX said:
Ok, a Kaiser has a front camera, does the Tilt?
That's pretty strange, they replaced everything but the insides? The Keyboard isn't from a tilt (as far as I could tell).
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Yeah, very strange indeed. It seems as they took a tilt, put on a front camera, changed the housing and keyboard (it's not even a wwe keyboard - it has some chinese letters and other layout on the Fn-keys) and hspl'ed the phone with the first OliP0f hspl.... Either way, after confronting the seller, he did admit that it wasn't a unlocked HTC TyTN II, because they got the best prices on these phones from carriers... He also proposed to give me a 70 USD refund, and a HTC bluetooth headset as a compensation, after i expressed my dissapointment with the phone.
Well, i'm still not sure if the battery is OEM, and also if the housing and keyboard is OEM, but i guess i'll never know for sure