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Password protection via Start, Settings, Lock

I hestitate to start a new thread to ask this, but I just spent 5 hours reading the Wizard forums and didn't find anything useful. So here goes . . .
I recently upgraded to Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic
(thanks, summiter). I'm happy with everything except the behavior of the password protection.
With the original ROM, I had it set (and don't remember what setting did it) so that I would only be prompted for a password when the device was coming out of standby mode (i.e. when I press the power button to turn the screen back on). Most of the time, I would put the device in "protected mode" by manually pressing the power button, but I also had "turn off after 5 minutes when running on battery" set, so if I left it sitting somewhere, it would go into "protected mode" in a few minutes.
With the new ROM, I've tried setting the "prompt if device unused for" setting to "0 minutes" (the setting I seem to recall I had used with the old ROM), which DOES cause the device to prompt for a password whenever I turn it on, but it also causes the password prompt to appear after 1 minute of idle time. If I use a longer setting, then I don't get the password prompt while the device is on, but when I turned off, and back on again, it doesn't prompt for a password.
I'm not dealing with a high security situation here. I just want a simple way to keep my kids and other prying eyes from accessing the PDA function, with a way for me to force it into locked mode, and some kind of time out for when I set the phone down and forget to lock it.
Is there a way to change my current ROM to get the old behavior? Is there some other program I should use instead of the one built-in to the OS?
Thanks.

Seconding this request. I've been looking for a solution to the same problem.

The password behaviour in the AKU2 ROMs are a real PITA - especially if you use SatNav without first switching off the password protection.
Unfortunately this is down to the implemenation by Microsoft so don't hold your breath for this to be "fixed".

Here's my solution so far:
I bought a copy of Pocket Secure 3.0 for $14
Website: http://www.TotalPocketPC.com
Support: http://www.4winmobile.com/-pocket-secure-support-vf25.html
I associated the progam with the Press and Hold voice button (I don't use voice recording), so when I want to force lock the phone, I just press and hold the button.
Using this program, I've left Media Player and/or TCPMP running in the background, "locked" the phone, and then carried it around in my case without any problems.
The "lock screen" displays battery level and a nice big clock. Since I don't wear a watch, 50% or more of the time, when I'm turning my phone "on" (i.e. switch out of standby mode), it's just to see what time it is.

lock the device immediate with pin code

Hi all
Now I've set the device to ask a pin code to lock the device after 30 minutes of being not used. Isn't there an option/way so the pin lock is immediately active when I want it to be (like pushing some seconds on the end button), using another hardware button or by executing some file?
I've tried to map '"\Windows\Keylock.exe" /toggle' to a hardware key (with an timeout of 0 minutes in settings - lock), but that just prompts the way the/which keys should be locked, as if you would execute keylock.exe without the '/toggle' parameter.
The question is.. what invokes the pin unlock screen to appear?
PS: best wishes for 2008!

hold end call for 3 seconds!

ekw, thanks for you answer but
pushing the end call button:
- doesn't activate/show the pin lock screen,
- any "child who can read" knows howto unlock the device.
the thing is that if it gets stolen, they need to do a hard reset so sensitive data (putted on the device instead of the SD) will be erased
I already tries S2U2 but that locks the device in the same 'security' level as pushing the end call button for some seconds and it mentions howto unlock it
fyi: having the HTC TyTN II with HTC stock ROM (dutch)

Instant PIN Security
As noted in the first post, is there a way to get the phone to security lock on command, where you have to enter the pin to use it again?
I know you can hold down the end call button and get it to screen lock, but is there a way to get it to go into security lock?
I would like to turn the automatic settings off, so that the phone ONLY goes into security lock when I say it does, or, set it so that it only does it automatically like every three hours. That way, I can set it to go into security lock more often if I wish to.
Thanks!

if you turn the screen off using the power button,m and back on, does the lock not activate?
Or have you not told it to lock when waking from standy?

flashy said:
if you turn the screen off using the power button,m and back on, does the lock not activate?
Or have you not told it to lock when waking from standy?
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That works if you set auto lock on 0 minutes, but then you have to enter the PIN each and every time you turn the thing on. He wants it to lock only when he presses a lock key.
I unfortunately don't know of anything that does it.

kilrah said:
That works if you set auto lock on 0 minutes, but then you have to enter the PIN each and every time you turn the thing on. He wants it to lock only when he presses a lock key.
I unfortunately don't know of anything that does it.
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Exactly. Thank you for your comments.
I don't want to have to enter the PIN every time I turn it on. Well, I know I can set it for an hour or longer and that would be fine.
But I want to be able to put it down, with the PIN code enabled, without worrying about random prying eyes looking into it or using it.
Anyone else have any thoughts??

Entering PIN after bootingHi

Hi,
perhaps there's a very simple answer to my question. After booting my DIAMOND, there's the original dialpad for a very short time. I couldn't enter the pin. Then it shows "network unreachable". Ok, without Pin, it's ok. But why i can't enter my pin after booting?
CU, dc7os

im not sure if the problem i have is related, but about 50% of the time when i reboot the phone it goes to windows home screen without asking for a PIN.
It does not load TF3D its just a plane black today screen with calander at the bottom.
If i go comm manager and turn off then on "phone" or "airplane mode" this forces the device to ask for the PIN
after successful PIN entry the phone works as normal!!! bizzare
This has happened with every ROM i have tried so i can only assume its a problem with my device or the 3rd party software i introduce to it after i flash the ROM.

rumpleforeskin said:
im not sure if the problem i have is related, but about 50% of the time when i reboot the phone it goes to windows home screen without asking for a PIN.
It does not load TF3D its just a plane black today screen with calander at the bottom.
If i go comm manager and turn off then on "phone" or "airplane mode" this forces the device to ask for the PIN
after successful PIN entry the phone works as normal!!! bizzare
This has happened with every ROM i have tried so i can only assume its a problem with my device or the 3rd party software i introduce to it after i flash the ROM.
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I have this too. But I just press the "Phone call" hardware button and then the screen where you can enter the PIN appears.

ZuinigeRijder said:
I have this too. But I just press the "Phone call" hardware button and then the screen where you can enter the PIN appears.
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Ok, that works, but my question is: why it shows the screen "Enter pin" and i can't entering it?
CU, dc7os

SIM PIN on Startup

I'm used to enter my SIM PIN before the Today screen is displayed. So the X1 connects to the mobile network before you start working with the phone.
But now the X1 starts WM and i have to click manually on the phone settings to enter the PIN. SIM Pin is turned on.
Is there any way to get a "auto SIM PIN screen" on startup?
Actually i forgot to note that i get a PIN Screen on Startup. But just for a few seconds and you cannot type in any number. It then fades and the today screen is displayed. I think there's something going wrong. mh.
Thanks for your advise!

I was wondering the exact same thing. The thing displays for a second then goes into loading today screen leaving you manually starting the SIM PIN screen.

This is a sideeffect of xperiaTweak, it's been discussed here already. A simple search could have given you the answer.
There is no fix for this right now but it should not matter -either you can simply press the green phone-button, then you can type in your PIN, or you just deactivate the PIN-code.

its not xperia tweak,, because the moment i got this phone, i am grumbling about this already... i think its PANELS

I have the same problem exept i used to be able to enter my pincode but now i only get the first 2 numbers then it just "logs on" by itself... i don't think its TweakXperia either coz it worked before and i hade it than to...and when i check the conn manager it says the phone is on, not i flight mode or anything else... so weird!

leobox1 said:
its not xperia tweak,, because the moment i got this phone, i am grumbling about this already... i think its PANELS
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Could be too. This behavior started the moment I installed XperiaTweak so I thought this program is the one to blame.
Maybe it's just to wait for the firmware update. And after all, how often do you softreset your phone? I installed all the programs I need and now it's weeks before I restart the device.

Actually I've installed xperia tweak, but I did not use it. Changed some chache sizes with advanced config.
I think it happened the first time after i allowed Sprite Backup to automatically enter the SIM PIN. But turned that feature off and the programm is not on auto start ... as far as I know.
Ah and I searched the forums and found nothing about sim und pin .
I "soft reset" my phone on most evenings by pressing the On key and selecting to turn the device off. There's no need for the phone to be on standby when I'm sleeping.
I think I'll do a hard reset and take a look when my SIM PIN Menue is disappearing.

I simply removed simlock. I rarely turn the phone off, so there is little chance it would work.

Well there's the difference!
I turn it off more often. Btw, Soft Resets once a day are recommended by SE on their X1 site. To "clean up memory" . hehe
And its quite nasty to go to the PIN menu manually all the time.

I usually just press the call button and the phone brings up the PIN menu. This is quite an easy way I think...you don't have to navigate too much this way.

Dadaism said:
Well there's the difference!
I turn it off more often. Btw, Soft Resets once a day are recommended by SE on their X1 site. To "clean up memory" . hehe
And its quite nasty to go to the PIN menu manually all the time.
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Tell that to my Nokia 1208 I still have somewhere. 7 weeks of battery lifetime and no "memory cleaning"
On topic: WHen the PIN code screen shows up, just type it in and press ok without waiting for a response. On my X1 it usually works, the screen hangs but the PIN gets entered.

Pressing the call button is faster, but still manually.
I did a hard reset on my device and payed some attention to the SIM PIN screen.
After the reset, with no external programms installed (original stock rom) the PIN screen appeared every time, soft reset and complete shut down.
But after I installed the first programms (in this case advanced config and advanced task manager) the SIM PIN screen started to fade away. Surprisingly it seems to be random now. Sometimes the screen fades and the today screen is shown, and on the other side the pin screen stays up until I entered the SIM PIN.
As for today:
Turned mobile phone off over the night.
First start today: SIM PIN screen stayed up.
Soft reset: SIM PIN screen stayed up to.
Yesterday the SIM PIN screen faded away for every Soft reset i made. I've installed a bunch of programms (My_flash, Youtube App, Skyfire, ...).
Until now I have NOT installed Xperia Tweaks! I'll see if the randomness fades with that installed.

Perhaps this occurs, when a programm running in the background causes the (phone) PIN screen to minimize. Sometime it went away when F-Secure wants to update definitions.
No XperiaTweak installed yet and still no SIM PIN screen fade away pattern .
Maybe XperiaTweak also runs in the background on startup, panel switcher or what ever. You could take a look at this .

i noticed that if i start entering the code immediatly after it appears , it is enough time to enter it(6 char) and press enter.Anyway i don't mind pressing the green key once in order to enter PIN

Bump out of curiosity. Is there a solution for this?

Phone not locking when screen times out

Hey everyone,
I encrypted my phone and installed MobileIron to get work email and calendar. Ended up removing it all and decrypting phone after a few weeks. Since then, my phone isn't locking when the screen times out. If can be sitting with a black screen, but soon as I touch the home button it's awake and ready for action. It seems to lock eventually after sitting for an indeterminate amount of time.
Where the heck is the setting to control how long the phone waits before locking (requiring swipe or pin, not just turning off screen)? I know when I had the phone encrypted I found it and changed it to like 15 minutes so I didn't have to enter my 8 digit pin every couple of minutes, but now that its decrypted I am either blind or that setting is gone....
Thanks in advance.

UnexplainedBacon said:
Hey everyone,
I encrypted my phone and installed MobileIron to get work email and calendar. Ended up removing it all and decrypting phone after a few weeks. Since then, my phone isn't locking when the screen times out. If can be sitting with a black screen, but soon as I touch the home button it's awake and ready for action. It seems to lock eventually after sitting for an indeterminate amount of time.
Where the heck is the setting to control how long the phone waits before locking (requiring swipe or pin, not just turning off screen)? I know when I had the phone encrypted I found it and changed it to like 15 minutes so I didn't have to enter my 8 digit pin every couple of minutes, but now that its decrypted I am either blind or that setting is gone....
Thanks in advance.
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First thing is to go to settings > lockscreen > screen lock and change it to pin or swipe or something other than swipe until your device recognizes when you've locked it. If it starts locking with the pin engaged go back and turn it to swipe and see if it locks on its own again. Second I imagine that it locks when you press the power button to turn the screen off? Set your screen timeout to an obscenely high number so that you remember and get in the habit of locking the device by pressing the power button. This is just for habit because Android (the base system) engages the lockscreen when the power button is pressed and the screen is on. If you are running a custom ROM you could dirty flash to put system settings back to default and if you are on stock out of the box you may have to factory reset to get settings back to their default state. I know that last one is less than optimal, but if the first two options (changing the lockscreen type and locking manually) are not a good work around then you will either have to do the encryption routine again to see if it fixes it and if it doesn't then you may have to factory reset.