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lock the device immediate with pin code

Hi all
Now I've set the device to ask a pin code to lock the device after 30 minutes of being not used. Isn't there an option/way so the pin lock is immediately active when I want it to be (like pushing some seconds on the end button), using another hardware button or by executing some file?
I've tried to map '"\Windows\Keylock.exe" /toggle' to a hardware key (with an timeout of 0 minutes in settings - lock), but that just prompts the way the/which keys should be locked, as if you would execute keylock.exe without the '/toggle' parameter.
The question is.. what invokes the pin unlock screen to appear?
PS: best wishes for 2008!

hold end call for 3 seconds!

ekw, thanks for you answer but
pushing the end call button:
- doesn't activate/show the pin lock screen,
- any "child who can read" knows howto unlock the device.
the thing is that if it gets stolen, they need to do a hard reset so sensitive data (putted on the device instead of the SD) will be erased
I already tries S2U2 but that locks the device in the same 'security' level as pushing the end call button for some seconds and it mentions howto unlock it
fyi: having the HTC TyTN II with HTC stock ROM (dutch)

Instant PIN Security
As noted in the first post, is there a way to get the phone to security lock on command, where you have to enter the pin to use it again?
I know you can hold down the end call button and get it to screen lock, but is there a way to get it to go into security lock?
I would like to turn the automatic settings off, so that the phone ONLY goes into security lock when I say it does, or, set it so that it only does it automatically like every three hours. That way, I can set it to go into security lock more often if I wish to.
Thanks!

if you turn the screen off using the power button,m and back on, does the lock not activate?
Or have you not told it to lock when waking from standy?

flashy said:
if you turn the screen off using the power button,m and back on, does the lock not activate?
Or have you not told it to lock when waking from standy?
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That works if you set auto lock on 0 minutes, but then you have to enter the PIN each and every time you turn the thing on. He wants it to lock only when he presses a lock key.
I unfortunately don't know of anything that does it.

kilrah said:
That works if you set auto lock on 0 minutes, but then you have to enter the PIN each and every time you turn the thing on. He wants it to lock only when he presses a lock key.
I unfortunately don't know of anything that does it.
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Exactly. Thank you for your comments.
I don't want to have to enter the PIN every time I turn it on. Well, I know I can set it for an hour or longer and that would be fine.
But I want to be able to put it down, with the PIN code enabled, without worrying about random prying eyes looking into it or using it.
Anyone else have any thoughts??

Not always asking for PIN

hi all
Sometimes when i restart my device it fails to ask for my PIN, then fails to load manilla. So i end up with a standard windows home screen but no network connection (because a pin was not entered)
running TLR3 but i have not read of anyone else experiancing this in the TLR thread.
any ideas?
cheers

rumpleforeskin said:
hi all
Sometimes when i restart my device it fails to ask for my PIN, then fails to load manilla. So i end up with a standard windows home screen but no network connection (because a pin was not entered)
running TLR3 but i have not read of anyone else experiancing this in the TLR thread.
any ideas?
cheers
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Ì have a simmular problem, happens sometimes with 1.93 rom. It seems that tf3d gets focus too fast . I'll bet the pin screen is still running in the background but it 's not possible to select it anymore (taskmanager). Only solution i found is disable and enable the phone in comm manager to trigger the pin screen again.

Lost my "Enter PIN" screen

My Kaiser is set up to request a PIN to access phone services. If I use comm manager to switch off the phone reception then switch it back on again, I don't get the screen up asking me to enter the PIN. If I press the green 'call' button it comes up then. It used to bring up the enter PIN screen as soon as I switched the phone mode back on but it's stopped doing it automatically - seems to coincide with setting an option in SPB backup to auto enter the pin after a reset (which coincidentally didn't work!)
Can anyone think of a way to get the PIN screen to come back on like it used to?
Thanks

SIM PIN on Startup

I'm used to enter my SIM PIN before the Today screen is displayed. So the X1 connects to the mobile network before you start working with the phone.
But now the X1 starts WM and i have to click manually on the phone settings to enter the PIN. SIM Pin is turned on.
Is there any way to get a "auto SIM PIN screen" on startup?
Actually i forgot to note that i get a PIN Screen on Startup. But just for a few seconds and you cannot type in any number. It then fades and the today screen is displayed. I think there's something going wrong. mh.
Thanks for your advise!

I was wondering the exact same thing. The thing displays for a second then goes into loading today screen leaving you manually starting the SIM PIN screen.

This is a sideeffect of xperiaTweak, it's been discussed here already. A simple search could have given you the answer.
There is no fix for this right now but it should not matter -either you can simply press the green phone-button, then you can type in your PIN, or you just deactivate the PIN-code.

its not xperia tweak,, because the moment i got this phone, i am grumbling about this already... i think its PANELS

I have the same problem exept i used to be able to enter my pincode but now i only get the first 2 numbers then it just "logs on" by itself... i don't think its TweakXperia either coz it worked before and i hade it than to...and when i check the conn manager it says the phone is on, not i flight mode or anything else... so weird!

leobox1 said:
its not xperia tweak,, because the moment i got this phone, i am grumbling about this already... i think its PANELS
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Could be too. This behavior started the moment I installed XperiaTweak so I thought this program is the one to blame.
Maybe it's just to wait for the firmware update. And after all, how often do you softreset your phone? I installed all the programs I need and now it's weeks before I restart the device.

Actually I've installed xperia tweak, but I did not use it. Changed some chache sizes with advanced config.
I think it happened the first time after i allowed Sprite Backup to automatically enter the SIM PIN. But turned that feature off and the programm is not on auto start ... as far as I know.
Ah and I searched the forums and found nothing about sim und pin .
I "soft reset" my phone on most evenings by pressing the On key and selecting to turn the device off. There's no need for the phone to be on standby when I'm sleeping.
I think I'll do a hard reset and take a look when my SIM PIN Menue is disappearing.

I simply removed simlock. I rarely turn the phone off, so there is little chance it would work.

Well there's the difference!
I turn it off more often. Btw, Soft Resets once a day are recommended by SE on their X1 site. To "clean up memory" . hehe
And its quite nasty to go to the PIN menu manually all the time.

I usually just press the call button and the phone brings up the PIN menu. This is quite an easy way I think...you don't have to navigate too much this way.

Dadaism said:
Well there's the difference!
I turn it off more often. Btw, Soft Resets once a day are recommended by SE on their X1 site. To "clean up memory" . hehe
And its quite nasty to go to the PIN menu manually all the time.
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Tell that to my Nokia 1208 I still have somewhere. 7 weeks of battery lifetime and no "memory cleaning"
On topic: WHen the PIN code screen shows up, just type it in and press ok without waiting for a response. On my X1 it usually works, the screen hangs but the PIN gets entered.

Pressing the call button is faster, but still manually.
I did a hard reset on my device and payed some attention to the SIM PIN screen.
After the reset, with no external programms installed (original stock rom) the PIN screen appeared every time, soft reset and complete shut down.
But after I installed the first programms (in this case advanced config and advanced task manager) the SIM PIN screen started to fade away. Surprisingly it seems to be random now. Sometimes the screen fades and the today screen is shown, and on the other side the pin screen stays up until I entered the SIM PIN.
As for today:
Turned mobile phone off over the night.
First start today: SIM PIN screen stayed up.
Soft reset: SIM PIN screen stayed up to.
Yesterday the SIM PIN screen faded away for every Soft reset i made. I've installed a bunch of programms (My_flash, Youtube App, Skyfire, ...).
Until now I have NOT installed Xperia Tweaks! I'll see if the randomness fades with that installed.

Perhaps this occurs, when a programm running in the background causes the (phone) PIN screen to minimize. Sometime it went away when F-Secure wants to update definitions.
No XperiaTweak installed yet and still no SIM PIN screen fade away pattern .
Maybe XperiaTweak also runs in the background on startup, panel switcher or what ever. You could take a look at this .

i noticed that if i start entering the code immediatly after it appears , it is enough time to enter it(6 char) and press enter.Anyway i don't mind pressing the green key once in order to enter PIN

Bump out of curiosity. Is there a solution for this?

Remove Password Screen Always Appearing

Hi there,
Wondering if this is happening for all Diamond2 users or whether my playing around and initial configuration setup for the phone has somehow caused this situation.
When I hold down the Hang-Up/Home key it locks the screen. To enable the screen again I press the first Unlock button on the bottom left and then the Unlock button that pops up to re-enable use of the phone. This is of course normal.
However as my company forces Password protection as part of our Exchange Email policy, a Password is now enabled on the phone. Now holding down the Hang-Up/Home button locks the phone and instantly displays the Password screen (and not the Home screen with any information).
Being a previous Touch Cruise, then Touch Diamond user this has always driven me mad so I install SPB Mobile Shell so whenever I lock the phone it still shows the Home screen with all the information I want to see.
However on the Diamond2 this does not work and any locking of the phone simply displays the Password screen and no information. All I can do is enter the Password to enable phone use again.
I've installed registered versions of SPB Mobile Shell 3, and PocketShield but neither of them get around this problem.
Is anyone else having this problem? I'm trying to work out whether it's something I've done or whether it is all Diamond2's that demonstrate this frustrating behaviour? I've done a number of hard resets and gone back to scratch trying to see if I could get a combination that worked with this...
Appreciate any help so I can get this phone configured to my liking and actually start 'using' it. I know WM6.5 fixes this poor design in the OS.
Cheers.

Its an exchange thing...
The new version of Exchange 2007 forces all information to be hidden. As far as I am aware, there is no way anymore to show this info, especially as TF3D is so tightly integrated now.
Its pretty pointless having Exchange mobile policy on a device designed to protect the mobile information, and then being able to deactivate it, and show all that information you are supposed to be protecting when the device is locked.
BTW, the "versions" of wimo 6.5 that are floating around have been tampered with to remove this limitation. The official versions of ANY 6.1 rom will always hide that info when using exchnage mobile, if the group policy has restricted it.
You could always ask your sysadmin to disable it for your device.

Thanks for the reply and the info here.
I'm not trying to remove the password screen and that's fine with how it is intended to work.
But on my HTC Touch Cruise and my Diamond (both running 6.1 Pro) if I hold down the hang-up key it 'locks' the keys and dims the screen but still shows the home screen. Then after 15mins timeout I'm required to enter the password to access the phone again. During this the screen is always still displaying the home screen with the time, calendar etc.
But on the Diamond2 when I hold down the Hang-up key it locks the phone keys and displays the Password logon screen instantly. To use the phone again for anything, or to see the Home screen - I need to enter the Password.
This can't be the right way the phone is meant to work...?
Basically the 15mins timeout requiring password is 'instant' if I hold the hang-up key.

On my Samsung i600 which runs WM 6.1 I also have Exchange Sync with group policy enforcement of the password protection, but I can just chose "Unlock => Menu => Cancel" and the home menu shows.
But I can write back when my TD2 arrives and see if mine also does the same or if it is only yours.

mine does exactly the same
elmalote said:
On my Samsung i600 which runs WM 6.1 I also have Exchange Sync with group policy enforcement of the password protection, but I can just chose "Unlock => Menu => Cancel" and the home menu shows.
But I can write back when my TD2 arrives and see if mine also does the same or if it is only yours.
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The rom did this out of box. I just flashed the HTC latest diamond rom onto my original diamond as well, and it doesn't show any info either.

thats interesting.
madstyle69 said:
Thanks for the reply and the info here.
I'm not trying to remove the password screen and that's fine with how it is intended to work.
But on my HTC Touch Cruise and my Diamond (both running 6.1 Pro) if I hold down the hang-up key it 'locks' the keys and dims the screen but still shows the home screen. Then after 15mins timeout I'm required to enter the password to access the phone again. During this the screen is always still displaying the home screen with the time, calendar etc.
But on the Diamond2 when I hold down the Hang-up key it locks the phone keys and displays the Password logon screen instantly. To use the phone again for anything, or to see the Home screen - I need to enter the Password.
This can't be the right way the phone is meant to work...?
Basically the 15mins timeout requiring password is 'instant' if I hold the hang-up key.
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The answer there lies with the GPO triggering the simple pin lock from WIMO, rather than a 3rd party lock program.

A little progress...
Think I may have worked something out with this after a bit more playing around.
If I disable TouchFlo 3D and enable just the Device Lock option to show on the standard Today screen, then when I press Device Lock it locks the phone keys and dims the display (but still displays the Today screen info).
So the Device Lock can actually function on the phone as desired - however it appears that the ROM by default has the long press End key mapped to display the password logon screen (and not mapped to the Device Lock function).
Now it comes down to whether the long press End key can be re-mapped in the registry somehow to point to the standard Device Lock function and not the password screen.
I thought I had a way around it by mapping the long press Send key to Device Lock - however this button can only be mapped to installed applications (and not functions) from what I can see.
So any registry experts know of the key I'd need to modify to either re-map the long press End, or map the long press Send to the Device Lock function?

Resolved
Just closing the loop on this thread.
Zenyee Stay Unlock tool can be downloaded which resolves this problem.
It removes the need for a Password prompt for Exchange Group Policy (whilst not affecting the functionality of Exchange email working on the phone).

be VERY carefull!
madstyle69 said:
Just closing the loop on this thread.
Zenyee Stay Unlock tool can be downloaded which resolves this problem.
It removes the need for a Password prompt for Exchange Group Policy (whilst not affecting the functionality of Exchange email working on the phone).
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Modifying the GPO at all on the phone causes a send home signal and can trigger the remote wipe! TRUST me on this.. i triggered the remote wipe and wiped my diamond and the storage card playing around with a few settings in the registry...

Juggles said:
Modifying the GPO at all on the phone causes a send home signal and can trigger the remote wipe! TRUST me on this.. i triggered the remote wipe and wiped my diamond and the storage card playing around with a few settings in the registry...
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I've read countless messages from people using this tool on XDA and on other WM sites I've not yet read anything negative.
But thanks for the info in case I notice something unusual happen with the phone...