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Any way to adjust the slider?

The top part of the slider (the screen) on my kaiser sits just a little too far to the right when in the closed position. When I'm holding it and talking on it, my finger feels the slight ledge and it's kind of annoying. Has anyone found a good way to adjust the closed position of the kaiser?

Anybody? I'll eventually dig into it myself, but it would be nice to know if someone else has already done it so I can skip the experimenting and take apart only what needs to be taken apart.

As i know the two tiny rubber stop the screen going further. You can glue something to the rubber to adjust the position. Check the photo attached. I can't think of anything except that can help.
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Anybody? I'll eventually dig into it myself, but it would be nice to know if someone else has already done it so I can skip the experimenting and take apart only what needs to be taken apart.
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Ah I see...
Thank you for the pictures. That helps. One of the rubber bumpers on mine is somewhat malformed. I may end up disassembling this thing and making some sort of replacement.

I just noticed mine was doing this too, so I returned it today. Lol the next one I got had a very very very tight usb fit. it felt like it was going to rip the usb port out every time I would pull my usb plug off. So I went to return that one! They had only one more left which was the display model, lol. Of course I didn't take that.
So what they did is ordered 3 more to be shipped in this Monday and they are going to let me go over each one and decide which is the best for me to take home!

Just thought I'd update this thread with my story.
I tried to do a warranty exchange with AT&T when I found out that the warranty follows the Tilt, rather than being linked to the person that bought it (I bought mine off of craigslist) but they wouldn't do it. They said for something physical like that it had to be within the first 30 days of when it was first used on their system.
So I decided to fix it myself. I measured the amount of overhang at each end near the slide track using calipers, then looked around for something of the right thickness to add to the rubber bumpers discussed above. I settled on a piece of black, vinyl heat-shrink tubing used for electrical conections. 2 layers of it were enough to correct the overhang at one end and 3 layers at the other. I cut the pieces out making squares about .050" (a little over a millimeter) per side and glued the layers together. I used an exacto knife to cut them and trim after glueing. This was a tiny bit over-sized and they stuck into the tracks so well that I didn't bother glueing them into the phone.
My phone feels so much better in my hand now it's amazing. Before, that little difference made my phone feel super cheap and it was really annoying. Now it feels rigid and well made. =)

atleast you got it fixed. My first tilt was in my back pocket and i sat down on it and had the same thing.. so i gave it to my dad and got another one He hasn't noticed.. (actually i bought him a new one on ebay while he was visiting but it didnt arrive in time so i gave him the one i was using at the time, and about 30 min after i got home after dropping him off at the airport, guess who decides to knock on my door? the UPS guy with the new tilt )

Can't remove back cover!!

I've been using my Touch Diamond for a couple of days now, and just read about the lens protector that apparently needs to be removed in order to take decent pictures.
Now I find, that it is impossible for me to remove the back cover!! I tried all sort of ways of pressing and sliding, but now I'm afraid to damage the device by using too much force...
Have any of you guys have similar problems?
Does have something to do with the heat build-up from the battery the expands the plastic cover?

Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it

pedmond said:
Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it
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That worked! You are GOLD, thanks.

Or you could throw it really hard towards the floor. Should also work...
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist

this has to be one of toughest problems ever to be resolved here!

a hammer would have helped...

I find taking the stylus out and pushing from that corner the easiest way. Its a bit of a pain to get off if you have greasy hands!!

this sounds disgusting. it sounds like his phone is submersed in oil and he needs to wash it to remove the cover =\
i also heard if you rub the diamond against your head several times then place it against a wall...it will stick..like a balloon.
now you try =\

Dude, WTF, you're a puss. You couldnt get the back cover on the phone open?

Clicky-clicky!
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?

zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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My Diamond has a very solid feel, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Just to make sure: are you certain the back cover is well inserted?

Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
Maybe then the foil will also fill out that extra space, I don't know.
In general, I think that the back cover is VERY poor quality and really needs to be redone/redesigned. The diamond shapes on the back is a mess, as the device rocks back and forth when you have it on a completely flat surface (like a table) and operate the screen/buttons. It should be made with a completely flush back and a more sturdy plastic material (thicker, at least). Don't you think?

zyborg said:
Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
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Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.

What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
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Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.
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zyborg said:
What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
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I don't have a Diamond yet to answer that properly. It was just a general warning about putting metal foil in electronics. If you can see ANY way for it to move from where you put it to any other component or connector - don't do it. And that includes small parts of foil that may flake off from rubbing when the case moves (which is exactly what you're trying to stop, soit's potentially an issue).
I'd not risk it myself, but you probably wouldn't die. Probably. Much.

By the way, I tested the aluminum foil, and it worked well to remove the clicky-clicky sensation/sound, but I quickly removed it again after reading the warning above.
Can anyone suggest an alternative material to fill the gap?

zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Yes on two different Diamonds, poor design, or design flaw.

Clicky-clicky has gone bye-bye!
I found another solution:
Cut a business card (not too thick) in half and place it over the battery on the inside of the back cover. Slide the back cover back on. No more clicky-clicky!

Today i spent what seemed like an hour attempting to remove the battery cover on my touch pro and FINALLY did it! I wonder why HTC made it so difficult. To fix the creaking problem, i just put some strips of tape on my battery cover and that stopped the problem

Kaiser gap between housing

hi
I have a little problem. My kaiser just came back from service after a month, because of the broken screen.
I have noticed that the gap between the casing. Let me illustrate on a picture, the gap is in red color
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/htc-kaiser.jpg
ok, if i push the far left end of my kaiser, the gap is about 2mm
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/DSC04640.jpg
i thing that this gap was smaller before...how big is it on your kaiser?

Woah. That looks messy (I'm sorry to say!)...
The gap on mine is pretty equal along its length (maybe slightly wider (almost immeasurably so) toward the 'bottom') - but I'd say it's less than a millimetre all the way down its length.
...Certainly A LOT more flush than in your pic.
If you need me to I'll post a pic for you to use as ammunition when you kick ass about it...
Regards,
Rob.

mine is equal also along it's length, but because of the angle it doesn't look like that. Its 2mm across the whole phone. I still think its too much

Definitely something wrong there
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http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/DSC04640.jpg
i thing that this gap was smaller before...how big is it on your kaiser?
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There's definitely something wrong there. Mine is even all the way along and is about 0.6 mm. I'd be getting back in touch with the repairer/possibly the courier who delivered it back if there's any chance the damage happened in transit. They may claim additional parts are required (at more $$$/£££) to fix it though

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hi
I have a little problem. My kaiser just came back from service after a month, because of the broken screen.
I have noticed that the gap between the casing. Let me illustrate on a picture, the gap is in red color
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/htc-kaiser.jpg
ok, if i push the far left end of my kaiser, the gap is about 2mm
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/DSC04640.jpg
i thing that this gap was smaller before...how big is it on your kaiser?
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Looks like when they were working on your phone, they either bent the rails or the mounting bracket that slides on the rails.

i have just made a video of the problem
check it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBpwdBD8gng

How do you plan to progress this?
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i have just made a video of the problem
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I believe you, I believe you! What more do you need to know, there's a problem with the phone if the gap is wildly uneven when sitting flat with no pressure on the device. What are the repairers saying and what are you going to do about it?

i have returned the phone, wee will see what the service guy will do with it.

Screen Clicks

Is anyone else having this problem:
I noticed that if I press down on the middle left side of the screen in portrait mode (the very edge of the screen) that I hear a "click" sound, almost like it's loose underneath. The rest of the screen doesn't click, only this part. I've read other reports about people having issues with the screen coming up, and was concerned. Nothing looks loose, and everything feels solid, but again, slightly concerned.

There's another thread going on about this very thing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774438
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Not really. I mean yes at first I had to press down REAL hard and it was a very minute one, but not terrible. Now it's not doing it anymore so it just may have been a placebo effect for me.
Is it very noticeable on yours? I only noticed it when I depressed quite hard in the exact middle left of the border (not the screen).
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dzap said:
Not really. I mean yes at first I had to press down REAL hard and it was a very minute one, but not terrible. Now it's not doing it anymore so it just may have been a placebo effect for me.
Is it very noticeable on yours? I only noticed it when I depressed quite hard in the exact middle left of the border (not the screen).
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Sup dzap! :highfive:
Not too noticeable. I hear the click mostly when I left my finger off the side. Almost like something is coming up. On visual inspection, everything "looks" ok.

huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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Sup dzap! :highfive:
Not too noticeable. I hear the click mostly when I left my finger off the side. Almost like something is coming up. On visual inspection, everything "looks" ok.
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dvzzz said:
huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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Thanks for the info. If all it ends up being is a slight noise every so often, I can live with that. If the screen starts falling apart - that's a different story. I didn't even notice it until I started looking for problems .

I had the same problem on my 5th GNex. I exchanged it for another one. It depends how much it bothers you I guess.

dvzzz said:
huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted

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I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
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I've been hearing the same. It sounds like people are assuming it's adhesive when it's really some sort of retainer clip that locks the device in place. I can't really comment one way or another, but based on what I've been hearing from user reports, I'd bet my car it's clips... not adhesive. But hey, I may be wrong and riding my bike to work tomorrow.

You are right, I should not be making definitive statements, I checked iFixit and I do not see a glue there but at the min my screen issues have something to do with heat and expansion, once the device on charge or in my hand for extended period of time the left side separates and rises .5-1mm above the bezel, I press it in and then it "sticks" for another hour or so. I am perhaps incorrectly assumed an adhesive but it must be a weak clip that cannot hold the glass once body expands... At the end of the day, my goal was to keep this little powerhouse N7 but hate to press that glass in all the time until I break it. I am sure they will eventually fix it in the new builds 3-6 months from now but all I was saying that many many folks are reporting separating bezel issue, it must be more than a coincidence.Returned to Sam's club it but there is no replacement for it for another 30 days or so coming to Sam's Club and by then there can be competitors coming, e.g. nanoiPad. Even though I really liked the Android N7 too bad Asus QA is not in the big league, but you cannot have everything at $199 or $260, quality costs money, I know Motorola overengineered Xoom to stand up on quality and it did.
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I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
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Screen lift...another fix. Update:Returned for another...

Ok, so I have had the screen lift problem. It's on the left side worst in the middle. I decided I would take it apart and do the shims between the screws thing. But when I got it open the lift disappeared. So it's a problem with the back pressing up just enough... I noticed a pretty thick piece of foam right on the center left so I removed it. Just replaced the case and tada the tape is holding the screen flat just fine now. Just thought I would pass this on with the other fixes.

Danny80y said:
Ok, so I have had the screen lift problem. It's on the left side worst in the middle. I decided I would take it apart and do the shims between the screws thing. But when I got it open the lift disappeared. So it's a problem with the back pressing up just enough... I noticed a pretty thick piece of foam right on the center left so I removed it. Just replaced the case and tada the tape is holding the screen flat just fine now. Just thought I would pass this on with the other fixes.
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I noticed last time I opened it that this foam had some compression marks. Likely from pressing against the back. Mine was slightly misaligned, so really only part was compressed. I had the same thought, i.e. remove it. Maybe align it, but it's glued on tight.
So I just removed it. I'll let you know how it turns out in a day or 2.
I also use 3 washers for the top 3 on the left, which helped huge. Hopefully this will make it perfect.
Update Sept 1. This definitely helps. Noticed from pics on another thread that some new models have this foam removed, as shipped. Interesting. Also, on new models, some have screws missing (2 and 4, starting top left). I tried removing screw 2 but when I woke up I noticed creaking and movement at the bezel, when I press my left thumb inwards, which is something I always do. So I put the screw (and washer) back in this morning. Perfect now. But removing this foam was essential, so thanks again.

Makes sense. The screen is dead flat, so it has to be the back case that is separating. Thanks for the info.
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this isn't new and has already been covered already.

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this isn't new and has already been covered already.
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Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered? It was the first I saw.... maybe they have more pointers... Links?
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Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered? It was the first I saw.... maybe they have more pointers... Links?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29028614&postcount=237

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It was covered in the main screen lift thread, which is like 90 pages long and has every possible remedy tested, dissected and mostly debunked. The fact is there are several factors causing the lift and there need to be several solutions to really fix it 100%, and permanently. You can make it better in various ways, one of which is removing that foam, although I believe the foam is there to keep the back from flexing and compressing those metal "prongs", causing them to lose contact. So you might have other problems later without the foam. I probably wouldn't mess with it, personally.
I personally think a workable solution for most N7's with this problem would be to shave that foam down evenly by like 0.3mm, then clamp the screen to the trim and leave it in a hot car like that for a day or so to re-adhere, without the back cover on. Then cool the tablet down and replace the back cover. The hard part is evenly shaving down the foam; it is just a tiny bit too big. But it should be present.

Well I thought I could live with it but the lift is back.... I have also noted that my 8gb gets really poor wifi connection compared to my wife's 16gb. All the clips are still contacting the back plate but I can see no difference in signal with or without the back on. So, I just called google and they are shipping out a new unit for me tomorrow. Hopefully this one is better.

Took the back off to look at screen lift fix. Low & behold 3 screws missing on the LH side of the unit. Also some fingerprints on the copper plates, 2 loose (more than 1 full turn to tighten) screws on the RH side, metal tape/gauze over phone socket loose.

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...So you might have other problems later without the foam...
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Thanks for all this info. My foam was glued at about 25 degrees off-angle, and clearly compressed at the corner closest to the bezel, so a problem for mine' right from the factory. I didn't get it all off, but most for sure. Once removed, the bulge I had at that point between the bezel and rear case was gone. So was some screen lift' although the washers helped more for that. Not a big win, just another step forward.
I'm still curious why some pics on other thread show no foam, as shipped.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30974024
From my looking, it's in a seemingly non-functional gap, and presses down a wide cable (or something). I earlier traced movement of that cable as the source of 'creaking' I was having, i.e. when it moved against another piece of plastic beside the bezel. I put some lithium where it rubbed and the creaking stopped. Mind you I did that (and the 3 washers precisely tightened) before i removed most of the foam.
My Tf101 was a lot less maintenance than this one. But once done (crossing fingers lol), it's causing my iPad3 to collect dust. This thing just screams. Loving it.
Again, thanks for the info.
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