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GPS Signal Never Saves????

Okay, Ive been using gps on my tilt for a while. When I was running WM6.0 on a 1.27 radio, my gps was perfect. Never ran GPS tool once, tom tom would aquire a signal within 20seconds of boot and it would be great from there....until i flashed to 6.1.
After flashing to 6.1, i went with 1.64.06.04 radio, and now using 1.58.21.23 radio. It seems that every time I use gps after a period of a day or so, I have to reaquire a GPS sat signal. This process always involves me running GPS tool for about 2min before satellites could be aquired. After that, would Tom Tom pick up a signal at its normal time.
I feel like my Tilt isnt saving the GPS info...
And yes, I have run quickGPS many times, and my region is correct in registry.
THanks for any help!!

my thoughts exactly
same here there is no sub for a good radio
i dont like wm6.1 just for not beeing able to use wm6 radios
no one can do anything

That's strange
I have the same duddy's rom but 1.64.08.21 radio .
I just keep Quickgps updated .
I never use GPStools , i use my navigator destinator7 and it takes around 1-2 minute to fix.
luca

any other thoughts on this? is there anybody that has exprenced this problem or knows a solution? ive been trying different radios, and none got a fix as good as the 1.27 radios...

moto2000 said:
any other thoughts on this? is there anybody that has exprenced this problem or knows a solution? ive been trying different radios, and none got a fix as good as the 1.27 radios...
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I agree, don’t like the wm6.1 radios gps preformance. It takes forever to get a fix. With 6.0 and the 1.27 radios I got a fix in 15-20 secs. Don’t know what the issue is but don’t like it being so damn slow.

hey WM6.1 GPS users...

what have you done about your crippled GPS? flash a few radios and then bare with the horrible fix times, or have you actually found a way to fix this? I wanna know how many people on this forum put up with crippled GPS.
I personally chose the option of putting up with the crippled GPS, ive tried to fix it but haven't found anything. Assisted GPS freezes so i have to leave it turned off. Today when i actually needed it and realized it took more than 5 minutes to get a fix, that really annoyed me..

not sure how i rank with those 2 options but i just keep my quickgps updated and then run GPStest get a fix before then start igo8 and fix time havent been too bad...been using the radio in my sig
edit: i have agps turned off via advancedconfig

bapssystupr3m3 said:
not sure how i rank with those 2 options but i just keep my quickgps updated and then run GPStest get a fix before then start igo8 and fix time havent been too bad...been using the radio in my sig
edit: i have agps turned off via advancedconfig
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hm...but even then that would be considered "crippled" gps. you still need to jump through hoops just to get it to work right. and you have to have the right radio...i remember when there was no wm6.1, no matter what i would flash to, i never had to switch radios, my gps just connected instantly. no jumping through hoops.
i would say your option is that you "put up with your crippled GPS" but that is just my opinion.

One of the lucky guys i guess... No problems with GPS after the 6.1 update. I use a stock ROM and Radio (in my sig) and i use Destinator 7 for GPS. Takes me about 2 mins to get a fix and GPS runs smoothly. QuickGPS get updated when i connect via USB...

dont use GPS on my TYTN II, i have a standard Kaiser for that

Well
My GPS is going fine from the start till now. I've flashed many roms and many many radios. My GPS was working everytime with various things. I get a fix in 1-2 minutes. 3 is really max awaiting time. I'm using A-GPS without any problems.
ROM&Radio as in my signature.
Cheers,
Chris

Hey guys, 1-2 or 3 minutes is not considered as quick gps fix Have in mind that gps fix was about 15-20 seconds in WM6 roms

zalaros said:
Hey guys, 1-2 or 3 minutes is not considered as quick gps fix Have in mind that gps fix was about 15-20 seconds in WM6 roms
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I must try it today once again after soft reset, and i will post my results as i get back to home. But its quite good for me.

I get a fix in about 90 seconds using TomTom or iNav. But if I use GPS Test, then the fix time drops to like 30 seconds.
I'm currently running Death v4.1 and the 1.58.25.27 Niki radio.

alright, ive made the test.
42 seconds in GPSTest, 59 in my AutoMap5 and 62 in GarminMobileXt. posting from Kaiser outdoors.
Cheers,
Chris

Rom: Hyperdragon IIIs
Radio: 1.65.20.29
QuickGPS regularly updates
AGPS turned on
GPSTest fixes in about 30 seconds
Tomtom 7 fixes in about 45 seconds; instant if GPSTest was started first
so... no, I don't feel my gps is crippled at all.

If 'attempted to fix it' includes emailing HTC (and only getting the automated response saying they received the message) and phoning HTC twice about it, I guess I fit into the second group. I've not strayed from HTC supplied firmware at any stage and don't want to. It's their responsibility to fix it, not mine and if they can't they should get Qualcom to update the chipset drivers/radio for them to fix it.

I wasn't happy with my sync time in 6.1 with the radio that I had (i.64.xx.xx) and i just flashed 1.58.25.17 on my phone and it synced in 1:30-2 mins fro ma cold start outside (needed a reason to walk away from the cube). good enough for me.
Mass/AT&T/Death 4.1

2-3 minutes doesnt seem like a good time to me...especially when there was once a time it could get a fix within 5-25 seconds.
I have heard good things about the stock roms, and i ALMOST upgraded to it, but then i remember they aren't as fast as some of our cooked roms here on the forum, and the fact that stock roms are loaded with a bunch of crap and have less memory.

I'm gonna knock on wood before and after I type this:
*knock on wood*
Since using Tomtom v7 extracted from Diamond, my Tilt has not disappointed me with initial GPS fix.
*knock on wood*

the problems people are experiencing and the seeming lack of issues for other people with the same ROMS must have something to do with the Kaiser variants people are using. I can think of no other reason why I can have the same ROM, radio and SPL as someone else and yet cannot get a fix, while they can. I have an Orange branded TyTn 2 from the UK. I am currently using the Dutty Diamond V1, hard spl 3.29 and the 1.65 radio that comes with the diamond ROM. I believe my Kaiser model number is KAI130. Does anyone else have the same model and ROM etc as me and is able to get a fix?
Ive tried 5 different ROMs and umpteen radio, disabling and enabling A-gps - even installing different quick GPS cabs. No luck.
I never had any problems like this on my N95, and everyone criticise its GPS!

hi,
i use now last updated htc rom in french (wm6.1) with tomtom 6.0 and quickgps V1.0 from htc.
Effectively, it takes now more time (1..3 minutes) than before (few seconds, under wm6.0) to get a fix, but it works has before.
Seem that the fix takes now much more time...
May be you are right, wm6.1 has somthing to do wuth t is problem.
Best regards,
Laurent

McGuider GPS
This program picks up signal in under 15 secs

leoni1980 said:
the problems people are experiencing and the seeming lack of issues for other people with the same ROMS must have something to do with the Kaiser variants people are using. I can think of no other reason why I can have the same ROM, radio and SPL as someone else and yet cannot get a fix, while they can. I have an Orange branded TyTn 2 from the UK. I am currently using the Dutty Diamond V1, hard spl 3.29 and the 1.65 radio that comes with the diamond ROM. I believe my Kaiser model number is KAI130. Does anyone else have the same model and ROM etc as me and is able to get a fix?
Ive tried 5 different ROMs and umpteen radio, disabling and enabling A-gps - even installing different quick GPS cabs. No luck.
I never had any problems like this on my N95, and everyone criticise its GPS!
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I have an AT&T Tilt, I live in the US.
I'm using Radio 1.64.06.04
Im using Dutty's WM6.1 4/29 Rom
I have the Qualcomm 7200 chip (not 7201)
My Kaiser's Model Number is KAIS160.
Now that i think about it, i cant confirm this kaiser ever had a good GPS fix, being that this is my 2nd kaiser, my first one broke, and this one is the free replacement. hm...
The poll results are really surprising me, at least half the people's GPS is fine for them. I would upgrade to anything newer than dutty's 4/29 but most diamond builds dont support direct draw, i cant play quake, quake 2, or duke nukem. most other games or apps that use direct draw don't work either. i still have to try hyperdragon 6/24 build and L26_Kaiser Diamond 6/25. Does anyone know if GPS AND direct draw are working on these roms?

Indeed I miss the fast fixes from 6.0 ROMs. Within 20 seconds I would already have a fix from a cold start. Now it takes up to 3 minutes, its reaaally annoying. In fact, I also found it strange that half of the people here were not complaining about their GPS's. More than once I needed those fast fixes and had to wait for 2 minutes or so, and had to stop at dangerous eek:) places waiting for it. I tried different solutions but none of them seemed to work. And I really don't feel like going back to 6.0 ROMs so..

GPS Problem

Hi,
I am using the original ROM 1.93 and I have installed Destinator 7 with Greek maps (2008). I don't know why, but the GPS loses its signal instantly and then everything is fine. This happens after a certain number of seconds and it is repeated.
Does anyone know hot to fix this?
Thank you.

GPS problem
tsthanos said:
Hi,
I am using the original ROM 1.93 and I have installed Destinator 7 with Greek maps (2008). I don't know why, but the GPS loses its signal instantly and then everything is fine. This happens after a certain number of seconds and it is repeated.
Does anyone know hot to fix this?
Thank you.
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I have had the same thing.
Turn OFF your AGPS with advance config.
If that doens't help, give it a hard reset.
cor

try with radio .07 (you wont loose anything), it catches gps signal quiker...
bye,
davide

Here is my experience, where I noticed the GPS problems disappear completely.
From day 1, when I got my Diamong, first thing I did, without testing the GPS with shipped older official ROM, was to flash to SwiftBL ROM ... great ROM I have to say. But then I noticed that I had fix-no-fix-fix-no-fix (lags) problem, as well as the fixing itself taking up to 10-15 minutes. I tried newer SwiftBL ROMS, tried switching A-GPS, tried using .07 and .08 radios .... nothing, problem persisted.
I went back to .05 radio, and this time flashed with Dutty's Full v2 ROM ... very very fast and neat ROM. The ROM has A-GPS switched off from start. I did one hard-reset after flashing ROM, as Dutty recommends, and guess what ... no lags and fix within 10-20 seconds.
What was the problem .... I sinserely do not know, whether the combination of ROM+Radio+A-GPS! ..... main thing being now my GPS is fast at fixing, signal quality high and no lags.
Hope this helps.

cpootjes, because of the work load I managed to visit the site today!!
I activated A-GPS after a hard reset. I didn't even think that this could be a problem! However, I will test it and I will post the result..
Thanks anyway..

cpootjes, having activated A-GPS caused the problem (as you told me)..
Thanks again !!

Folks, since you have Destinator 7 installed and running, I hope you can help me... I cannot get mey Destinator Portal to see my internal storage, so I can install my maps there. Any suggestion ?

uk radio

ok, so this may be a lame question and probably depends on a lot of variables but can anyone suggest a good radio for use in the uk??
is there such a thing, i've tried lots and so far seem to like a few but i still can't get the bl**dy GPS to work properly
i get a loke in about 10 mins if lucky.
i've used poldo's rom and ngy's and pda ultimate, and for my purposes poldo's seems the quickest and most stable to me.
any help would be appreciated.
dblonde

Using Radio in sig, lock about 2-3 mins, using mcguider "to which isn't the greatest sat nav prog"

yeah thanks for that. used that for a while, made my rom fast but gps lock was poor.
what do you think of the emo radio?
cheers mate

UK Radio version
I have dutty's 6.1 final with radio version 1.58.25.14. I am on T-Mobile and all is fine with my Kaiser. All this software was from the Kaiser software section on XDA.
Hope this helps

dblonde said:
yeah thanks for that. used that for a while, made my rom fast but gps lock was poor.
what do you think of the emo radio?
cheers mate
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Haven't used emo as have used the radio mentioned with no issue on every ROM i flash and even 3 carriers.
Do you use quickgps and have you tryed running GPSTest as you will find fix faster, also will always take longer for fix off cold boot.

I used to live in Solihull area of Birmingham and use 1.71.09.01 radio with 3G switched on (HSDPA off) and I could leave it with data connected all day and sync my mail every 15 minutes and at the end of the day after a few short calls I would still have 40 - 50% left.
I have just moved to South Wales (valleys area) and the same setup down there my battery is on 0% by 4pm. So I have had to kill 3G and set mail to manually refresh to get through the day.

fixed it
gps test installed and a new radio 1.65.16.25
get a gps fix in about 10secs.
i come from south wales, lived near the vally's in bedwas. now live and work in greenwich london.
small world.
thanks for everyones input.
dblonde

dblonde said:
fixed it
gps test installed and a new radio 1.65.16.25
get a gps fix in about 10secs.
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Glad you got this resolved but I used that Radio with the 'initial' UK HTC official WM 6.1 ROM update and it well and truely broke my GPS (compared to the WM 6.0 setup in my sig I'm back to using). I have no need to use gps test or any programs other that Tomtom Navigator 6.032 so I strongly suspect your results have more to do with GPS Test or the ROM, than that particular radio.

GPS reception

What is the best configuration for optimal GPS reception ?
I have a Touch HD with Miri's 7.1 version (23017 build) with Manila 2.5.
Radio 1.09.25.14
My GPS reception lowered considerable since upgrading from original WM6.1 rom.
I have less satellites and it takes much longer to connect to them.
Anyone else have similar issues ?
thanks,
jabax

yves.alexis said:
What is the best configuration for optimal GPS reception ?
I have a Touch HD with Miri's 7.1 version (23017 build) with Manila 2.5.
Radio 1.09.25.14
My GPS reception lowered considerable since upgrading from original WM6.1 rom.
I have less satellites and it takes much longer to connect to them.
Anyone else have similar issues ?
thanks,
jabax
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I dont know if mirri have included a difrent RADIO in hes ROM. But try a diffrent RADIO, it might help. And check youre GPS settings as this might changed when you flashed to a new ROM.
And another thing... This question should be in mirris ROM thread. Mod is gonna lock this tread any time now..