GPS reception - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

What is the best configuration for optimal GPS reception ?
I have a Touch HD with Miri's 7.1 version (23017 build) with Manila 2.5.
Radio 1.09.25.14
My GPS reception lowered considerable since upgrading from original WM6.1 rom.
I have less satellites and it takes much longer to connect to them.
Anyone else have similar issues ?
thanks,
jabax

yves.alexis said:
What is the best configuration for optimal GPS reception ?
I have a Touch HD with Miri's 7.1 version (23017 build) with Manila 2.5.
Radio 1.09.25.14
My GPS reception lowered considerable since upgrading from original WM6.1 rom.
I have less satellites and it takes much longer to connect to them.
Anyone else have similar issues ?
thanks,
jabax
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I dont know if mirri have included a difrent RADIO in hes ROM. But try a diffrent RADIO, it might help. And check youre GPS settings as this might changed when you flashed to a new ROM.
And another thing... This question should be in mirris ROM thread. Mod is gonna lock this tread any time now..

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The more stable RADIO ROM

Hi,
I've installed the lastest ROM RADIO v1.46.00.11
My GPS take 5 to 15 min to fix I don't know if is due to the RADIO ROM but I've read somewhere that this version is not the best for France (Europe)
Can someone told me wich one is the more stable for GSM and GPS
thanks
the radiorom is only for the phone not
for gps, wifi or bluetooth
Rudegar said:
the radiorom is only for the phone not
for gps, wifi or bluetooth
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Are you sure.... I've read in a thread in XDA that the GPS depend on the ROM but not the WIFI
i'm curious too.. i thought radio ROM affects gps and bluetooth as well as phone
i'm not 100% but under the impression as there are plenty of pda's around which dont have phone but have gps, wifi and bluetooth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317851&highlight=wifi
I think that Radio Rom affect GPS too because when I bought my P3600, GPS wasn't enable and I had to upgrade Radio version in order to active the GPS.
kintestyle said:
I think that Radio Rom affect GPS too because when I bought my P3600, GPS wasn't enable and I had to upgrade Radio version in order to active the GPS.
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Radio is different to ROM.
Anyways, not sure if this would help, but I'm using Radio version 1.46.30.11, I really don't know if Radio has anything to do with GPS reception, but you can try upgrading it to that.
There's also a program out there that's meant to help GPS fix. It's called GPSTest that was posted a few days back. Might want to look that up.
Will post again if i can find it and test it.
And here it is, but not sure if it's a myth or reliable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1450160
Now im curious to now what the different Radions do with the phone??
never seen a change log / release note for any radiostack to any device
guess htc dont release them externaly
and a user based opinion vs. writing would
be so individual and biased it would be pointless
chunga168 said:
Radio is different to ROM.
Anyways, not sure if this would help, but I'm using Radio version 1.46.30.11, I really don't know if Radio has anything to do with GPS reception, but you can try upgrading it to that.
There's also a program out there that's meant to help GPS fix. It's called GPSTest that was posted a few days back. Might want to look that up.
Will post again if i can find it and test it.
And here it is, but not sure if it's a myth or reliable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1450160
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GPSTest doesn't help GPS fix. GPS fix is dependant on GPS hardware. The only benefit of GPSTest is that it is a small program, thus it loads faster therefore initialising GPS faster. That's all it does.
That being said. Radio Rom absolutely has an effect on GPS receiver. Do you remember when the Trinity first came out with GPS disabled? Was it not disabled because of conflicts with the 3G radio? So you'll have to find a radio version that works right for you. Personally, the 1.46xxx radios suck ass for me in Canada, so I'm trying out different ones to see which works best.

What roms do WM6.1 and GPS best?

Hi, I'm running Duttys Hybrid v2 with radio 1.58.16.27 and get excellent GPS performance. Acquisition in 5 seconds, most of the time.
Are there any other WM6.1 ROMs that perform as well? I've used a few 6.1s that are really fast, but have terrible GPS performance (I think it is because you really need one of the NIKI radios, but most aren't supporting them)
Just curious....
If you are having problems getting a gps fix with any rom, try gpsgate. I've used it and can get a fix on any rom within a few seconds.
I know this doesn't answer your question but if your only problem with a rom is the gps acquisition, this is your solution.
The gps signal is more radio related then rom related.
Mikulec said:
The gps signal is more radio related then rom related.
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True, but a lot of roms only work with very specific radios.
elypsar said:
...but a lot of roms only work with very specific radios.
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Untrue, many roms are just packed with a certain radio, and only a few require a certain one.
I had been getting 20 second cold-start acquisitions back on winmo6.0. On 6.1, I'm lucky to get it in under a minute.
GPSGate does help, but it runs the GPS nonstop and drains the battery in short order.
Anyone find a radio that works better? Using GPSGate, or GPSTest isn't a good option for me. I may need to go hunting for good winmo6.0 cooked roms.

What radio works for you on the diamond?

I have just finished trying five after it was suggested and it was a terrible experience for me.. how about you? what radio is best.
I've tried ALL radios here around, and for me the best is .07, GSM signal is perfect, GPS fix very quick, battery life almost the same compared to .05, but I don't use 3G so I can't say for that.
bye,
davide
I use the 1.03.25.18
and it's fast like Hell, fast GPS fix (10 sec.), signal the best of all.(for me it is)
Ghostrider
Ghostrider said:
I use the 1.03.25.18
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I tried that version too but sometimes my phone crashed, never happened to you?
bye,
davide
in the poll you ask "Which radio do you use", but in the 1rst post you say "what radio is best".
common knowledge says .05 is the best. just search the forum if in doubt
suiller said:
I tried that version too but sometimes my phone crashed, never happened to you?
bye,
davide
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no problems at all till now, it is running now on this radio for 6 Month w/o any problems
Ghostrider said:
no problems at all till now, it is running now on this radio for 6 Month w/o any problems
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6 months!? You've had the diamond since april? and i thought I was early..
Hi,
Can i just ask, can people please state what country they are in when recommending radio roms as some of the available radios are designed for europe.
My second question is, can i flash a new radio without damaging my current rom configuration? (i.e. if i install a new radio will i need to reinstall all of my apps to my rom?)
thanks for your help
No, you are quite safe to flash a radio rom - it won't harm your installed items.
However, you do need Hard-SPL and that will hard reset your device
captainsensible2002 said:
No, you are quite safe to flash a radio rom - it won't harm your installed items.
However, you do need Hard-SPL and that will hard reset your device
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thanks for the info, i already have hard spl, i put that on the first time i booted my diamond!
i am uk voda user i use radio .07 and have found it far better than 05. gps fix is quicker but more importantly the wifi connection is more stable for me. i am using swiftbl rom 6.2 hope this helps
Started with .03, tried .07 and .08, currently use .05, but I'll try .07 again as it 'felt' like it had the best combination of reception, GPS lock and battery life for me.
.05 here, only one ive flashed myself (default came with .03) and its so much better that i haven't wanted to change or try any others
iRiKi said:
in the poll you ask "Which radio do you use", but in the 1rst post you say "what radio is best".
common knowledge says .05 is the best. just search the forum if in doubt
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I have read the forum.. extensively..
For me .05 was not the best (with Duttys v2 rom) .. so that's the question.. what do you use.. whats best for you and your current setup.
one thing i am confused with is the fact that there are alot more radios than in the pole, see below:
Radio v1.00.25.03
Radio v1.00.25.05 (Quad Band,Save Power and have better Network Connection!) "Highly Recommended"
Radio v1.00.25.06 (Quad Band)
Radio v1.00.25.07 (Provided by duttythroy )
Radio v1.02.25.11 (Provided from Bepe )
Radio v1.03.25.18 (Provided from Bepe )
If your going to pole this thread, include all radios!!
Another thing i would like to bring your attention to, in your pole there is this radio: 1.00.25.08 Where is this available? i cannot find it anywhere!
Also maybe someone can explain this to me, i was under the impression that as new radios were developed/released they would be improvements based on the most current radio.
Using this thought process surely that would mean that Radio v1.03.25.18 would be the most up-to-date radio? (or does it not work like that?)
bennec83 dutty has a 08 radio on his download page..
the reason for not listing those others was because I expected 07 and 05 to be the only real contenders (and the others are ones I have tried)..
This seems to be born out by the current results..
Also I left the 'other' selection for the remainder
chribruu said:
6 months!? You've had the diamond since april? and i thought I was early..
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I have an company contract with O2, so I get the new Phones 3 to 4 months befor the out for all. ( If I ask nicely )
Ghostrider
I'm on 2nd day of .08 (from dutty) radio and this one perform well such as .07 but I suppose something has improved .07 + .01 = .08
gps fix is really quick (at least from warm start) and the signal strength is really good (in open space always 7/8 sat)
just for note I use tomtom v7 and rom + radio in my signature
Ghostrider said:
I use the 1.03.25.18
and it's fast like Hell, fast GPS fix (10 sec.), signal the best of all.(for me it is)
Ghostrider
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Currently using the 05.. But I agree with you Ghostrider. The 1.03.25.18 is fast as a lightning and battery time is jus wonderful, but I experiencing the hang problem, I think it might be connected to the Hard-SPL im using, it's 1.3(x)
.18 gave problems here too... now I'm running .08 (from dutty) and ALL is working very well, for what I've understood .08 ver comes from diamond 3G (us ver)

GPS lag solved with TOMTOM, problems with iGO8

Hello everyone,
i have solved all my problems with my htc diamond gps lag using Tomtom 7. Now the point on the map while moving is perfect and in time. Just upgraded the rom with the one of DIB and the radio from 25.95 to 25.08 version. (also the 3g signal is better now!).
Well.. using iGO 8 (with 3d buildings, real terrain, poi and everything) the gps lag is still big. At least 50/75 meters!!! has someone solved it? I tried to setup the features of the software as low as possible... but.. nothing changed. any help is appreciate!
Thanks!
excuse me, but what is "DIB" and what radio version is 25.95 or 25.08?
dib is an italian rom for htc touch diamond and 08 is the radio version with good umts and gps signal.
Can anyone else confirm if the radio upgrade fixes the GPS lag problem for Navigation software?
I never suffered gps lag or at max very few, just 1/2 seconds (I think anyway it is normal), after 2 hours, neither wait to test the phone, I cook the newest rom & the newest radio (at that time was 07), right now I have BS14 ver (previuos) was with 08 and ALL has always worked, so I really don't know if with old radios there is that (in)famous lag... because I never had older radios than 07
bye,
davide
thx, did not know DIB yet.

6.5 Roms heating device

sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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I noticed the same too... The battery issue I was already aware of (especially with the Energy ROM).
nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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Try Onkolog Rom's they r better in terms of battery and performance - Personal experience.
nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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JaisonGJI1815 said:
I noticed the same too... The battery issue I was already aware of (especially with the Energy ROM).
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imtiyazee said:
Try Onkolog Rom's they r better in terms of battery and performance - Personal experience.
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Guys ,i have tryed many things for the battery and the best result for me is working with the new radio from Xperia 1.16!
battery not heating anymore ...
definitely. you r right, winmo 6.5 heating device after using 1-2 mins. and leo roms heating even more. btw, topix's rom smoother than onkolog's, even onkologs roms more lightweight than topix. best battery saving is onkolog. - personal experience.
djcedric said:
Guys ,i have tryed many things for the battery and the best result for me is working with the new radio from Xperia 1.16!
battery not heating anymore ...
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If its real then its a great news for many of us, will try right way.
No problems with dutty rom wm6.5 R12
barisahmet said:
definitely. you r right, winmo 6.5 heating device after using 1-2 mins. and leo roms heating even more. btw, topix's rom smoother than onkolog's, even onkologs roms more lightweight than topix. best battery saving is onkolog. - personal experience.
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masrterk said:
No problems with dutty rom wm6.5 R12
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that you are using onkolog,dutty,energy or any other rom,i think with radio 1.14 your device is always heating a lot,if he is asking from battery heating,change your rom is NOT the solution!
Try another radio and the difference is there.
djcedric said:
that you are using onkolog,dutty,energy or any other rom,i think with radio 1.14 your device is always heating a lot,if he is asking from battery heating,change your rom is NOT the solution!
Try another radio and the difference is there.
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nope. changing only the rom is fixing that. its not about radio (i didnt try .16 btw), but rom either affect this much.
barisahmet said:
nope. changing only the rom is fixing that. its not about radio (i didnt try .16 btw), but rom either affect this much.
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if you change your rom and there is a rillphone inside the rom that works fine with your installed radio then your battery is not heating so much anymore thats right!
changing a rom without rillphone inside will change nothing on heating battery.
when i was working with radio 1.14 my device was heating a lot,then i installed the rillphone and battery was not heating so much anymore...now with changing the radio 1.16 my device is not heating anymore,go to the hex edited radios thread and read the comments...
having the same problem
i'm having the same problem
I guess.. the problem has strated when I started using 6.5 roms
if changing the radio could help, can anyone explain how to do it please
seas of tears said:
i'm having the same problem
I guess.. the problem has strated when I started using 6.5 roms
if changing the radio could help, can anyone explain how to do it please
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read this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274
I've changed radio and roms with several combinations, this was just to get some feedback from community to understand if the problem was general.
With GPS or 3G enabled any rom/radio will heat the device (6.5 or 6.1), but on a daily usage, replicating mail, answering call, etc with a 6.1 rom (topix in this case) and 1.16 xperia radio I did notice that the device heats sometimes. but with all 6.5 roms I've tested (Miri, Energy) the device is allways hot - even on standby - getting hotter when I start using it.
as stated I was not really looking for a solution, but rather trying to understand if this was a common behavior and if it is, there should be some processes on 6.5 roms that are pushing more for the processor comparing with 6.1 roms
txs all for your feedback
PS: is there any ril cab for 1.16 radio ?
nunomax said:
I've changed radio and roms with several combinations, this was just to get some feedback from community to understand if the problem was general.
With GPS or 3G enabled any rom/radio will heat the device (6.5 or 6.1), but on a daily usage, replicating mail, answering call, etc with a 6.1 rom (topix in this case) and 1.16 xperia radio I did notice that the device heats sometimes. but with all 6.5 roms I've tested (Miri, Energy) the device is allways hot - even on standby - getting hotter when I start using it.
as stated I was not really looking for a solution, but rather trying to understand if this was a common behavior and if it is, there should be some processes on 6.5 roms that are pushing more for the processor comparing with 6.1 roms
txs all for your feedback
PS: is there any ril cab for 1.16 radio ?
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im using energyrom with radio 1.16 and my device is not heating!before when i was on 1.14 and i was using gps or looking at movies my device heating a lot!much more as with radio 1.16 now.the difference is the radio.
no there is no rillphone 1.16 but 1.14 works fine with 1.16 radio.
Guys, you have to understand that 6.5 is ported over blackstone with 6.1 drivers. 6.5 is not supported by htc on blackstone, thus no 6.5 compatible drivers ar being written, this of course will resullt in more battery consumption than 6.1.
And anyone considering changing radios to 1.16, PLEASE READ THE WARNINGS CAREFULLY. YOU NEED TO SECURITY UNLOCK YOUR PHONE. IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS YOU CAN BRICK YOUR PHONE
thanks
djcedric said:
im using energyrom with radio 1.16 and my device is not heating!before when i was on 1.14 and i was using gps or looking at movies my device heating a lot!much more as with radio 1.16 now.the difference is the radio.
no there is no rillphone 1.16 but 1.14 works fine with 1.16 radio.
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thanks... hope that will work
will try it as soon as possible
Im using Energy 6.5 latest room and i can say that my battery life is over 5 days sometimes i forget when exactly i recharge my battery for last and also my phone didn`t heat when i play alot with the phone...
I also noticed that having WiFi on even if the screen is off, is heating the battery.
Once WiFi is turned off, the phone battery does not heat so much.
If wifi is configured for performance, try configuring for battery. usually makes a big difference to me.
Flashing 6.1 roms don't seem to change this setting (stored somewhere in radio nvram?), but i've seen flashing 6.5 reset it to performance at least once.

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