6.5 Roms heating device - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

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Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs

nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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I noticed the same too... The battery issue I was already aware of (especially with the Energy ROM).

nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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Try Onkolog Rom's they r better in terms of battery and performance - Personal experience.

nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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JaisonGJI1815 said:
I noticed the same too... The battery issue I was already aware of (especially with the Energy ROM).
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imtiyazee said:
Try Onkolog Rom's they r better in terms of battery and performance - Personal experience.
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Guys ,i have tryed many things for the battery and the best result for me is working with the new radio from Xperia 1.16!
battery not heating anymore ...

definitely. you r right, winmo 6.5 heating device after using 1-2 mins. and leo roms heating even more. btw, topix's rom smoother than onkolog's, even onkologs roms more lightweight than topix. best battery saving is onkolog. - personal experience.

djcedric said:
Guys ,i have tryed many things for the battery and the best result for me is working with the new radio from Xperia 1.16!
battery not heating anymore ...
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If its real then its a great news for many of us, will try right way.

No problems with dutty rom wm6.5 R12

barisahmet said:
definitely. you r right, winmo 6.5 heating device after using 1-2 mins. and leo roms heating even more. btw, topix's rom smoother than onkolog's, even onkologs roms more lightweight than topix. best battery saving is onkolog. - personal experience.
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masrterk said:
No problems with dutty rom wm6.5 R12
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that you are using onkolog,dutty,energy or any other rom,i think with radio 1.14 your device is always heating a lot,if he is asking from battery heating,change your rom is NOT the solution!
Try another radio and the difference is there.

djcedric said:
that you are using onkolog,dutty,energy or any other rom,i think with radio 1.14 your device is always heating a lot,if he is asking from battery heating,change your rom is NOT the solution!
Try another radio and the difference is there.
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nope. changing only the rom is fixing that. its not about radio (i didnt try .16 btw), but rom either affect this much.

barisahmet said:
nope. changing only the rom is fixing that. its not about radio (i didnt try .16 btw), but rom either affect this much.
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if you change your rom and there is a rillphone inside the rom that works fine with your installed radio then your battery is not heating so much anymore thats right!
changing a rom without rillphone inside will change nothing on heating battery.
when i was working with radio 1.14 my device was heating a lot,then i installed the rillphone and battery was not heating so much anymore...now with changing the radio 1.16 my device is not heating anymore,go to the hex edited radios thread and read the comments...

having the same problem
i'm having the same problem
I guess.. the problem has strated when I started using 6.5 roms
if changing the radio could help, can anyone explain how to do it please

seas of tears said:
i'm having the same problem
I guess.. the problem has strated when I started using 6.5 roms
if changing the radio could help, can anyone explain how to do it please
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read this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274

I've changed radio and roms with several combinations, this was just to get some feedback from community to understand if the problem was general.
With GPS or 3G enabled any rom/radio will heat the device (6.5 or 6.1), but on a daily usage, replicating mail, answering call, etc with a 6.1 rom (topix in this case) and 1.16 xperia radio I did notice that the device heats sometimes. but with all 6.5 roms I've tested (Miri, Energy) the device is allways hot - even on standby - getting hotter when I start using it.
as stated I was not really looking for a solution, but rather trying to understand if this was a common behavior and if it is, there should be some processes on 6.5 roms that are pushing more for the processor comparing with 6.1 roms
txs all for your feedback
PS: is there any ril cab for 1.16 radio ?

nunomax said:
I've changed radio and roms with several combinations, this was just to get some feedback from community to understand if the problem was general.
With GPS or 3G enabled any rom/radio will heat the device (6.5 or 6.1), but on a daily usage, replicating mail, answering call, etc with a 6.1 rom (topix in this case) and 1.16 xperia radio I did notice that the device heats sometimes. but with all 6.5 roms I've tested (Miri, Energy) the device is allways hot - even on standby - getting hotter when I start using it.
as stated I was not really looking for a solution, but rather trying to understand if this was a common behavior and if it is, there should be some processes on 6.5 roms that are pushing more for the processor comparing with 6.1 roms
txs all for your feedback
PS: is there any ril cab for 1.16 radio ?
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im using energyrom with radio 1.16 and my device is not heating!before when i was on 1.14 and i was using gps or looking at movies my device heating a lot!much more as with radio 1.16 now.the difference is the radio.
no there is no rillphone 1.16 but 1.14 works fine with 1.16 radio.

Guys, you have to understand that 6.5 is ported over blackstone with 6.1 drivers. 6.5 is not supported by htc on blackstone, thus no 6.5 compatible drivers ar being written, this of course will resullt in more battery consumption than 6.1.

And anyone considering changing radios to 1.16, PLEASE READ THE WARNINGS CAREFULLY. YOU NEED TO SECURITY UNLOCK YOUR PHONE. IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS YOU CAN BRICK YOUR PHONE

thanks
djcedric said:
im using energyrom with radio 1.16 and my device is not heating!before when i was on 1.14 and i was using gps or looking at movies my device heating a lot!much more as with radio 1.16 now.the difference is the radio.
no there is no rillphone 1.16 but 1.14 works fine with 1.16 radio.
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thanks... hope that will work
will try it as soon as possible

Im using Energy 6.5 latest room and i can say that my battery life is over 5 days sometimes i forget when exactly i recharge my battery for last and also my phone didn`t heat when i play alot with the phone...

I also noticed that having WiFi on even if the screen is off, is heating the battery.
Once WiFi is turned off, the phone battery does not heat so much.

If wifi is configured for performance, try configuring for battery. usually makes a big difference to me.
Flashing 6.1 roms don't seem to change this setting (stored somewhere in radio nvram?), but i've seen flashing 6.5 reset it to performance at least once.

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ROM question to all GURUs here

Which combination of ROM, Radio and BTstack You find the most stable, reliable and low energy consuming.
I don't think I'm satisfied with the sombination I have...
Robert
Belcik said:
Which combination of ROM, Radio and BTstack You find the most stable, reliable and low energy consuming.
I don't think I'm satisfied with the sombination I have...
Robert
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WM5: TuMa 1.3 (MS BT Stack) with radio 1.15.
In terms of WM2003SE: Orange 1.31, BT3500 and radio 1.15.
All respect to KTamas (551 posts don't write themselves), but I have to disagree. From what I've seen, radio 1.15 has problems with dropping calls and slow response from the phone application. Midget_1990 suggested I downgrade from 1.15 to 1.13 and I've seen a marked improvement since.
Likewise TuMa1.3, while a huge achievement from its author Tuatara, is now outdated by Logout and Ivan's latest ROMs. Both of them are faster and more stable than TuMa 1.3.
Logout is based on the fast, but flawed TuMa 1.4, with a lot of fixes. It's really good at multimedia - I get the best framerate in pocket media player with this ROM, but it seems to self-destruct after 2 weeks of heavy use. I've had to rebuild it after some pretty strange situations where the camera suddenly stopped working, phone app refused to launch, and the messaging app went crazy, opening and closing windows until killed manually.
TuMa 1.5 remains everyone's great hope for the perfect WM5 ROM, but it's not in a state to be released yet. In the meanwhile I use Ivan v4r3. It gives the fastest UI response, but it plays movie files less well than Logout. Above all, it's very stable if treated with care - usually needs rebuilding once a month or so.
Is the periodic rebuilding required on all WM5 roms? I know the windows xp "half-life" is about 18 months (if you look after it!), but I didn't realise that the phones picked up as much cruft as well.
i find between 2-8 weeks depending on what rom i'm running, note though that this is not just WM5, i also had to do this often in 2003se to keep the speed how it should be.
thingonaspring said:
All respect to KTamas (551 posts don't write themselves), but I have to disagree. From what I've seen, radio 1.15 has problems with dropping calls and slow response from the phone application. Midget_1990 suggested I downgrade from 1.15 to 1.13 and I've seen a marked improvement since.
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I thought that this could be a problem... I think about downgrading Radio to 1.13.
And what about ROM? Orange 1.31 is the only suggestion? Any other voices? If not, I think the only option will be to put into my baby that ROM...
Greets,
Robert
keep the 1.42 os rom, cook your own extrom, or leave as is, and use 1.13 radio. best wm2003se combi IMHO
Radio 1.13 is not as loud as 1.15.
If you use Bluetooth Headset,your friends will not hear your voice.
I've tried it with 3 Bluetooths.
But with 1.15,the volume is loud and clear.
8)
I'm planning to buy BT headset. So far 1.13 is good enough.

What roms do WM6.1 and GPS best?

Hi, I'm running Duttys Hybrid v2 with radio 1.58.16.27 and get excellent GPS performance. Acquisition in 5 seconds, most of the time.
Are there any other WM6.1 ROMs that perform as well? I've used a few 6.1s that are really fast, but have terrible GPS performance (I think it is because you really need one of the NIKI radios, but most aren't supporting them)
Just curious....
If you are having problems getting a gps fix with any rom, try gpsgate. I've used it and can get a fix on any rom within a few seconds.
I know this doesn't answer your question but if your only problem with a rom is the gps acquisition, this is your solution.
The gps signal is more radio related then rom related.
Mikulec said:
The gps signal is more radio related then rom related.
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True, but a lot of roms only work with very specific radios.
elypsar said:
...but a lot of roms only work with very specific radios.
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Untrue, many roms are just packed with a certain radio, and only a few require a certain one.
I had been getting 20 second cold-start acquisitions back on winmo6.0. On 6.1, I'm lucky to get it in under a minute.
GPSGate does help, but it runs the GPS nonstop and drains the battery in short order.
Anyone find a radio that works better? Using GPSGate, or GPSTest isn't a good option for me. I may need to go hunting for good winmo6.0 cooked roms.

What radio works for you on the diamond?

I have just finished trying five after it was suggested and it was a terrible experience for me.. how about you? what radio is best.
I've tried ALL radios here around, and for me the best is .07, GSM signal is perfect, GPS fix very quick, battery life almost the same compared to .05, but I don't use 3G so I can't say for that.
bye,
davide
I use the 1.03.25.18
and it's fast like Hell, fast GPS fix (10 sec.), signal the best of all.(for me it is)
Ghostrider
Ghostrider said:
I use the 1.03.25.18
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I tried that version too but sometimes my phone crashed, never happened to you?
bye,
davide
in the poll you ask "Which radio do you use", but in the 1rst post you say "what radio is best".
common knowledge says .05 is the best. just search the forum if in doubt
suiller said:
I tried that version too but sometimes my phone crashed, never happened to you?
bye,
davide
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no problems at all till now, it is running now on this radio for 6 Month w/o any problems
Ghostrider said:
no problems at all till now, it is running now on this radio for 6 Month w/o any problems
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6 months!? You've had the diamond since april? and i thought I was early..
Hi,
Can i just ask, can people please state what country they are in when recommending radio roms as some of the available radios are designed for europe.
My second question is, can i flash a new radio without damaging my current rom configuration? (i.e. if i install a new radio will i need to reinstall all of my apps to my rom?)
thanks for your help
No, you are quite safe to flash a radio rom - it won't harm your installed items.
However, you do need Hard-SPL and that will hard reset your device
captainsensible2002 said:
No, you are quite safe to flash a radio rom - it won't harm your installed items.
However, you do need Hard-SPL and that will hard reset your device
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thanks for the info, i already have hard spl, i put that on the first time i booted my diamond!
i am uk voda user i use radio .07 and have found it far better than 05. gps fix is quicker but more importantly the wifi connection is more stable for me. i am using swiftbl rom 6.2 hope this helps
Started with .03, tried .07 and .08, currently use .05, but I'll try .07 again as it 'felt' like it had the best combination of reception, GPS lock and battery life for me.
.05 here, only one ive flashed myself (default came with .03) and its so much better that i haven't wanted to change or try any others
iRiKi said:
in the poll you ask "Which radio do you use", but in the 1rst post you say "what radio is best".
common knowledge says .05 is the best. just search the forum if in doubt
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I have read the forum.. extensively..
For me .05 was not the best (with Duttys v2 rom) .. so that's the question.. what do you use.. whats best for you and your current setup.
one thing i am confused with is the fact that there are alot more radios than in the pole, see below:
Radio v1.00.25.03
Radio v1.00.25.05 (Quad Band,Save Power and have better Network Connection!) "Highly Recommended"
Radio v1.00.25.06 (Quad Band)
Radio v1.00.25.07 (Provided by duttythroy )
Radio v1.02.25.11 (Provided from Bepe )
Radio v1.03.25.18 (Provided from Bepe )
If your going to pole this thread, include all radios!!
Another thing i would like to bring your attention to, in your pole there is this radio: 1.00.25.08 Where is this available? i cannot find it anywhere!
Also maybe someone can explain this to me, i was under the impression that as new radios were developed/released they would be improvements based on the most current radio.
Using this thought process surely that would mean that Radio v1.03.25.18 would be the most up-to-date radio? (or does it not work like that?)
bennec83 dutty has a 08 radio on his download page..
the reason for not listing those others was because I expected 07 and 05 to be the only real contenders (and the others are ones I have tried)..
This seems to be born out by the current results..
Also I left the 'other' selection for the remainder
chribruu said:
6 months!? You've had the diamond since april? and i thought I was early..
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I have an company contract with O2, so I get the new Phones 3 to 4 months befor the out for all. ( If I ask nicely )
Ghostrider
I'm on 2nd day of .08 (from dutty) radio and this one perform well such as .07 but I suppose something has improved .07 + .01 = .08
gps fix is really quick (at least from warm start) and the signal strength is really good (in open space always 7/8 sat)
just for note I use tomtom v7 and rom + radio in my signature
Ghostrider said:
I use the 1.03.25.18
and it's fast like Hell, fast GPS fix (10 sec.), signal the best of all.(for me it is)
Ghostrider
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Currently using the 05.. But I agree with you Ghostrider. The 1.03.25.18 is fast as a lightning and battery time is jus wonderful, but I experiencing the hang problem, I think it might be connected to the Hard-SPL im using, it's 1.3(x)
.18 gave problems here too... now I'm running .08 (from dutty) and ALL is working very well, for what I've understood .08 ver comes from diamond 3G (us ver)

New Poll: Your experience about best Xperia radio

Hi Guys,
On previous Poll :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3765226
Radio 1.14.25.55 get 91 votes over 141 and poll finished biggest lead on all all other old radios now as we all know new radio is extracted "1.16.25.48" from new Korean R3BA015 Rom (Credits : nik40) , its rilphone.dll is not compatible as i read people experience on his thread but people live this radio , as they claim it is battery friendly...
but i think voice quality depend in real rilphone.dll
Well i am starting new Poll between these two radios let`s see now
either 1.14.25.55 is best
or
1.16.25.48 is best
Very Fine Regards
62% Guys satisfied with new radio with out rilphone.dll?
I used this radio with the supplied rilphone, however it did not automatically store the sms messages anymore. Therefor I removed the updated rilphone and went back to the rilphone of 1.14, this combination works perfect . Not much battery use, good signal reciept and still able to receive sms messages.
What is this "rilphone.dll" exactly? Can someone explain what it does?
I tried 1.16 for a while but went back to 1.14 - damn can't remember why now
I know I never tried it with the 1.14 rilphone -- it's worth a shot for a few days.
killer8nl said:
What is this "rilphone.dll" exactly? Can someone explain what it does?
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it is file which communicate with mwindows installed about radio actually in short
Xperia senior members and experience members please also share your personal views on above two radios
regards
i prefer my v1.14. i can see that my gps is more sensitive on v1.14 . n as well as more stable data connection.
v1.16 got better reception, but then it keep on switch between HSDPA ./ 3G even EDGE. make it less stable.
so i stick to v1.14. oh yeah, battery is clearly show longer battery life.
devalian said:
i prefer my v1.14. i can see that my gps is more sensitive on v1.14 . n as well as more stable data connection.
v1.16 got better reception, but then it keep on switch between HSDPA ./ 3G even EDGE. make it less stable.
so i stick to v1.14. oh yeah, battery is clearly show longer battery life.
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same as my experience
i agree with you
Strange experience
with Leo rom rilphone.dll woprking 100% fine......
But with others , same ****y error "messege from network" .......
i think there is some link in leo or that korean r3 rom with ril that`s why may be......
newstar said:
Strange experience
with Leo rom rilphone.dll woprking 100% fine......
But with others , same ****y error "messege from network" .......
i think there is some link in leo or that korean r3 rom with ril that`s why may be......
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so thats likely to be the jataayu messaging app in leo sets up the drm security permissions differently.. it maybe that the leo based roms use discretix rather than lockstream drm so it doesnt interfere as much..
nice find, ive not tried the 1.16rilphone yet,
so i guess it would be possible to work backwards to work out which reg is interfering with the none leo roms..
fards said:
so thats likely to be the jataayu messaging app in leo sets up the drm security permissions differently.. it maybe that the leo based roms use discretix rather than lockstream drm so it doesnt interfere as much..
nice find, ive not tried the 1.16rilphone yet,
so i guess it would be possible to work backwards to work out which reg is interfering with the none leo roms..
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yeah bro pls you check and research
and result almost clear
1.16 rilphone.dll
Where can i get the 1.16 rilphone.dll? I flashed the 1.16 over 1.14 and the reception signal just got worst by far as well as the voice quality...
virtuality said:
Where can i get the 1.16 rilphone.dll? I flashed the 1.16 over 1.14 and the reception signal just got worst by far as well as the voice quality...
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in 1.16 radio thread 3rd page
where download link for Radio 1.14.25.55 ?
I'm using 1.16.25.48, but the voice is to bad
Need try the 1.14 one hehe...
oio_sdk said:
where download link for Radio 1.14.25.55 ?
I'm using 1.16.25.48, but the voice is to bad
Need try the 1.14 one hehe...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506034
1.16.25.48 is best for me. Signal strenght and power consumption is great.
Here an Rapidshare Mirror: http://rapidshare.com/files/253151916/Radio_1_16_25_48.zip
v1.16 good signal received
After installing Xperia_1_16_25_48_rilphone.cab I was unable to see anymore names from SIM contacts. Everything else seems ok.
Any idea?
Thanks

GPS reception

What is the best configuration for optimal GPS reception ?
I have a Touch HD with Miri's 7.1 version (23017 build) with Manila 2.5.
Radio 1.09.25.14
My GPS reception lowered considerable since upgrading from original WM6.1 rom.
I have less satellites and it takes much longer to connect to them.
Anyone else have similar issues ?
thanks,
jabax
yves.alexis said:
What is the best configuration for optimal GPS reception ?
I have a Touch HD with Miri's 7.1 version (23017 build) with Manila 2.5.
Radio 1.09.25.14
My GPS reception lowered considerable since upgrading from original WM6.1 rom.
I have less satellites and it takes much longer to connect to them.
Anyone else have similar issues ?
thanks,
jabax
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I dont know if mirri have included a difrent RADIO in hes ROM. But try a diffrent RADIO, it might help. And check youre GPS settings as this might changed when you flashed to a new ROM.
And another thing... This question should be in mirris ROM thread. Mod is gonna lock this tread any time now..

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