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Frozen Kaiser

Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.

new rom =\...master reset..idk

Novice Gadget Boy said:
Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have a custom rom or a stock rom?
What rom are you using?
What radio are you using?
Can you tell us the available memory you have?
Do you have a task manager installed, and are you making sure everything is closed prior to opening new programs?
That information will be helpful in figuring out what's going on. Let us know, thanks! =)
If you don't have one of the newer custom roms, you're pretty much guaranteed to get an answer of "install hardspl / new radio / rom".
If you have a stock rom from HTC... you're gonna hear "reflash the phone with the stock rom, and if it still does it.. return the phone, or flash it with a custom one".
How much warranty do you have left?
Can you also give us a list of what programs you have installed, and which ones are usually running?

Pictures part 1
Thanks for the quick response. There are a lot of questions so i took a bunch of screen shots. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anymore detail.
See second post as i am unable to post all pics in one post.
Thankyou

Pictures part 2
I am also running battibar in the background.

Well, from what i gather from the screenshots you posted everything should be working fine. There's no reason it should be freezing up, unless there is some sort of conflict, or corrupt program.
Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?

Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?

nimda0 said:
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....Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?
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It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.

nimda0 said:
Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?
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Yes, thats correct.

Novice Gadget Boy said:
It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.
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Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?

Novice Gadget Boy said:
Yes, thats correct.
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Well, just like I posted above. Everything seems fine... and since you are using the stock rom you only have a few choices. You can start uninstalling programs 1 by 1... (noting which ones you uninstall so you can put them back on). Go 1/2 a day, and see if you still have the problem after uninstalling each program. That will help narrow down the theory about corrupt programs or conflicts.
Another option, is reloading the stock rom from HTC... and don't install anything. See how that works for a day... if it's fine, then you can start installing programs.... then if the problem occurs, you know it's got to be something with one of the program you've put on there.
Then you could always just uninstall everything, reset everything, and send it back and get a new phone.... but if it's the software causing the issue, and you put the same software back on the new phone.. you'll just be right back in the same situation again.
If you have warranty time left, i'd uninstall everything, and demand a new phone because of teh issues you are having. Onec you get it, then i'd flash with a custom rom... just make sure you do it right. =)
EDIT: Hell even if you don't have any warranty left, i'd STILL flash with a custom rom. I can't even begin to tell you how much better my phone runs now that it's flashed compared to before. I was using the stock ROM before from HTC, i had some issues... it was a bit laggy... so i reflashed with the stock rom, limited the software i put on it.. etc. etc.... still ran like dog piss... so i flashed, and well..... you get the picture. It's awesome now.

nimda0 said:
Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?
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10 months. But i dont feel any heat whatsoever, and the other day i was using it at work all day connected via activesync and it didnt freeze up. its only when i leave it idle on the charger.... Last weekend i kept getting messages from friends all during the night while it was on the charger (i was reading messages) and it didnt freeze.

So if it's sitting still for a long time without activity.. it freezes. Hmm... well i could give you a dozen things to try, but they'd just be bandaid fixes anyway. If it's freezing something isnt right.
Read my first post on page 2 of this thread you started and that should give you your options. FLASH!!

Best rom?

Im a noob when it comes to the rhodium. I havent even received mine yet. Should come in tuesday or wednesday. Anyway i was hoping if i could get some opinions on some of the customs roms offered. I have been using energyrom on my Fuze for some time now and I love it but I am interested in shadowline's roms. Could I get some input?

Better start searching, because this will be deleted/closed in 24hr.

like what Taninpv said you need to search and it this thread will be closed. find the one that suits you.

The Answer is D. All of the above.

There is no such "better ROM"
What is good to me could not be to you...
The best way is to test severals till you get "your best ROM"
The one on my sig is "my best ROM"

you have to try.

Best thing you can do is see what you like in a ROM.
What kind of Manilla do you like, do you want lots of programs installed or as little as posssible?
Do you perhaps want just the CHome of windows 6.5 and no anilla at all?
all these kind of answers will help you to choose the best ROM for you.
I've seen many people raving about the NRG Rom's, but I don't like Manilla and I want as little programs installed as possible.
So I won't flash these ROMS.
My point is, just flash, it's nothing more then data that's being rewritten.
If you don't like the ROM you flashed, download another and flash again.
Usualy it takes me aproximatly 30 minutes to install my phone with all the software, but the flashing itself won't take more then 10 minutes.
Happy flashing

Don't listen to this "u gotta find the one that's best for u" bull****. If ur quite new to flashing and quite new to TP2 it's gonna take weeks if not months. It's hard to find the one that actually WORKS for longer than couple of days. All of ROMS I had in my phone started to be laggy or/and buggy after some tweaks and installing several apps. I was able to run my phone for longer than a week only with A.Z.T.O.R. and now Shadowline. Now kill me everybody.

I often find myself sticking with a ROM for a while and when the time come's to change, I have to look at what's new again, normally, I just look at the pictures and what's included, if it's to my liking, I flash it. If I don't like it after flashing I try another.
I always keep teh AZTOR rom on my SD card in case all goes wrong and I need a working ROM in a hurry .
Dave

So I found my Rom...Have you?

Just to inform you guys if there are people out there like me...
I have reverted back to the Standard WM6.0 HK WWE Rom, as I have tried every single ROM availble on this forums, but nothing seemed to work 100% for me, there was always a draw back in every single ROM I have tried, except this one that I been running for the last month.
Yes it is old and outdated, but surprizingly, everything works 100%, no problems, no lock ups, no keyboard lags, battery is lasting longer etc.
So it looks a bit dull and boring, but maybe the more stuff added to the roms the more things can go wrong.
I'll be honest I appreciated everyone's efforts in creating the best ROMS available on this forum, but like I said no rom was working 100% for ME, so I'm not ungreatfull
Hopefully the ROMS made on this forums works 100% for you guys, but just thought I'd share this for the people like me. So dont flame me please
This is my little 2c contribution to the forums.

I have found mine as well: a standard WM6.1 WWE from HTC (the latest shipped rom). And as an addition: Eclair v2.0.1 . These both do almost everything I want them to .
However, I have been swithching a lot to JJblasters work as well: that works beautifull .

Gozzy69a said:
Just to inform you guys if there are people out there like me...
I have reverted back to the Standard WM6.0 HK WWE Rom, as I have tried every single ROM availble on this forums, but nothing seemed to work 100% for me, there was always a draw back in every single ROM I have tried, except this one that I been running for the last month.
Yes it is old and outdated, but surprizingly, everything works 100%, no problems, no lock ups, no keyboard lags, battery is lasting longer etc.
So it looks a bit dull and boring, but maybe the more stuff added to the roms the more things can go wrong.
I'll be honest I appreciated everyone's efforts in creating the best ROMS available on this forum, but like I said no rom was working 100% for ME, so I'm not ungreatfull
Hopefully the ROMS made on this forums works 100% for you guys, but just thought I'd share this for the people like me. So dont flame me please
This is my little 2c contribution to the forums.
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and which rom is that cos i wanna try it too....

Never
I liked Josh's Kaiser Rom "21929 Hybrid" I was using it since it was released with NO problems. Wonderfully stable Rom, which is the only reason I waited so long to jump on the 6.5 bandwagon (as of yesterday). Glad you found something you are satisfied with, but I doubt I will ever settle for any one rom permanently.

Going back to 6.0 is not " finding your rom ". it is going back to your old Volkswagen because the new Ferrarris and Lamborghinis are too complicated and hard to drive.

The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
If everyone is interested, give it a shot
And by the way Denco, I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
Not in the mood to battle with problematic roms.

denco7 said:
Going back to 6.0 is not " finding your rom ". it is going back to your old Volkswagen because the new Ferrarris and Lamborghinis are too complicated and hard to drive.
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ROFL
I totally agree with this, as soon as a new build hits I flash.
Some ROMS may be buggy, which is why you inform the chefs who in turn do their best to correct the bug.

Gozzy69a said:
The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
If everyone is interested, give it a shot
And by the way Denco, I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
Not in the mood to battle with problematic roms.
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If you need something that works 100% & 100% of the time, why even bother with flashing non-stock ROMs? I'm in IT as well, and I'm running Eclair 2.01 on top of jjblasters 28014. The issues that crop up don't prevent me from doing my job, and help me be better educated as to what's coming down the road.
Either way, to each their own. Enjoy your boring, bland, feature-less stock ROM and I'll enjoy the cutting edge.

My fav rom running over 1 year, Never need to reboot except if I remove battery or install new cabs.
RUU_Kaiser_HyperDragon_III_PRO_WWE_20080917

joenie said:
I have found mine as well: a standard WM6.1 WWE from HTC (the latest shipped rom). And as an addition: Eclair v2.0.1 . These both do almost everything I want them to .
However, I have been swithching a lot to JJblasters work as well: that works beautifull .
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hey i haven't jumped on the whole eclair thing yet, but i was wondering, whats the combination with WWE all about? does eclair run on two things or hows it work?! do you just mean that you took the stock and put eclair on it? let me know pleasee. and hows the new battery life running for you

sorry there was a duplicate..

Moving to Android
xxaznxx27 said:
hey i haven't jumped on the whole eclair thing yet, but i was wondering, whats the combination with WWE all about? does eclair run on two things or hows it work?! do you just mean that you took the stock and put eclair on t? let me know pleasee. and hows the new battery life running for you
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I've been running stock ROMs forever, or at least since AT&T US released the Tilt 6.1 updates. Work fairly well.
The Android builds work anywhere from not at all to very well. I'm working on Eclair now. Seems very stable. Someone is working on battery life now, seems to be less than 8 hours now, so that might be a problem. Several things don't work, but nothing I can't live without.
If you are starting from the beginning, I suggest getting a couple of Class 6 MicroSD 4GB cards, heading to http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install, installing 1.5 or 1.6 on the card, and playing with it for awhile. See if you like it. There are ZIP files to download that you unzip and copy to the SD card.
You boot your normal ROM, get to WinMobile, then start up Android from the SD. So it doesn't do anything to your standard phone. It just all of a sudden is running only Android. If you want WinMobile, you just shutdown, and restart to WinMobile. No pain.
After that, you start replacing various files to get to the version of Android that you want. As I said, sometimes you get very unstable, but when that happens, just return to the previous stable version.
It's like getting a free new phone! Or at least one for the prices of some SD cards.

kevinddavis said:
I've been running stock ROMs forever, or at least since AT&T US released the Tilt 6.1 updates. Work fairly well.
The Android builds work anywhere from not at all to very well. I'm working on Eclair now. Seems very stable. Someone is working on battery life now, seems to be less than 8 hours now, so that might be a problem. Several things don't work, but nothing I can't live without.
If you are starting from the beginning, I suggest getting a couple of Class 6 MicroSD 4GB cards, heading to http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install, installing 1.5 or 1.6 on the card, and playing with it for awhile. See if you like it. There are ZIP files to download that you unzip and copy to the SD card.
You boot your normal ROM, get to WinMobile, then start up Android from the SD. So it doesn't do anything to your standard phone. It just all of a sudden is running only Android. If you want WinMobile, you just shutdown, and restart to WinMobile. No pain.
After that, you start replacing various files to get to the version of Android that you want. As I said, sometimes you get very unstable, but when that happens, just return to the previous stable version.
It's like getting a free new phone! Or at least one for the prices of some SD cards.
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damn 4gb?! i have a 2gb..lol aha. i'm still running abbots v11, do you know what might be more stable with it? any suggestions? how long did the install take? i was looking on the eclair 2.0.1 thread, and i think theres a bootloader for it now?

which ROM
well.. I ve tried many ROMS.. but frankly felt shifu's version 4 was good. I dint face any problems with that ROM.
all other were buggy I agree.. and the original shipped ROM has to be good.

Ha, I have the same thoughts. I`ve tried a lot of roms, some of them was quite good but not in 100%. That was boring and if You use seriously your phone with a lot of important files, contacts, calendar appointmets it is hard to keep averything right when changing frequently roms. this is quite nice feature to change os to something You like, but not for serius usage. Somebody compare standard rom to Volkswagen, rebuidled to ferrari. So what that You have ferrari if itis not capable to run ?

pawelpaciorek : That is exactly what I'm talking about, I have tried most 6.5 roms on this forum and to keep on changing my roms and back up my contacts, reinstalling every single app (skype,gps,garmin etc etc etc) was just irretating me coz the ROM wasnt functioning propperly.
Luckily for now I set my phone up on our work's MS exchange server, so restoring contacts etc has become a bit easier.
Coz i once tried like 5 ROMS a day, and just got too irretated, to do all the above.
I believe its because the 6.5 roms are still in Beta, and no matter what, the Chefs cant really turn a Beta product into a full working one.
So its not the Chefs fault, its the fact that the Base of the 6.5 roms aren't completed.
I'm actually looking forward in changing my rom to Android as soon as it becomes available as a stand alone OS (somehow I doubt this will happen for Kaiser) but yeah

I have found my ROM as well.
It's not stock, it's not 6.5. In fact, I hate 6.5 ROMs running on Kaiser.
Everytime I flash a different ROM I go back to my safe ROM in a matter of days. Even recent ROMs made by the same chef are not as fast and stable.
I've a got a 6.1 ROM, memory hacked, fast, and stable.
I'm not telling what ROM it is in this topic though.

I have hated the 6.5.x roms for Kaiser because they have all been buggy, slow, or some cross of the two. But I will say this:
TPC "Stock Like" 23071 is FASTER than the GENUINE At&t 6.1 ROM!!!! And stability is almost flawless... no crashes of any kind.
Only problem I have with stock roms, which is what causes me the headache of flashing to try new roms is the feature set AT&T uses SUCKS and the OS tends to be bogged down with bloatware EVEN when soft resetting just before the customization screen.
The HTC home plugin is ugly, and makes landscape practically unviewable. The settings are horrible in 6.1, and the functionality is mutilated. 6.5 has fantastic functionality at the price of very few stable or even speedy builds.
As I stated, the one I am using is TPC Stock Like 23071 (NOT 28002 which has the sleep death that is to date not curable in the 28002 builds).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558285
BTW, the newer radio (1.71 eMonster) is definitely a necessity!

Moved to Kaiser General as not ROM Development...
Found my ROM

Amen to that
Gozzy69a said:
The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
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What country are you in? I tried that one and found the GPS fix was nowhere near as fast here in the UK. Maybe it's quick in the countries it's intended for though.... I never tried running my (older) favourite 1.27.12.32 Radio on it and that may have made a difference (if it was fully compatible). I don't rember, does it have a network connection wizard including countries such as the UK because one of the WWE WM 6.0 ROMs I tried only had S.E.A. countries listed and that posed a problem with getting it to work here (it couldn't get all the required settings automatically once I started the phone with its O2 sim). Yes I guess I could have manually installed a cab version of a full wizard but who wants to do that after any hard reset (and I still do those every few months when things start to slow down).
I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
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Been there done that (was a computer technician) and I know what you mean. The GUI may be a bit more sluggish and boot times longer but at least you get what you want - in my case the most important thing being brilliant GPS performance.

Comments / Suggestions / Guidance Required

Hello all,
I just got myself a Touch HD after waiting for a long time. I'm excited to be here and get to know a lot about my device after extensive reading on this forum. Its really well done and very very resourceful. Kudos to all you guys who are making this happen
Now, coming back to my device .. Ive had certain issues with my device and I wanna know from you guys if flashing to another ROM is necessary or not.
ROM Version : 1.18.723.3
Radio Version : 1.09.25.14
Touch Flo 3D version : 1.3.356******
My Concerns at the moment
1. TouchFlo 3D is not smooth at certain times and it gets stuck for a couple of seconds and its annoying.
2. Messaging screen hangs if i try to type my message quickly.
3. Phone takes about 3-4 seconds before it starts ringing.
4. I cannot flip through the mails from the touch flo 3d view.
5. The phone is constantly trying to connect to EDGE network. Even though i turn it off it still happens.
What I've done to correct these after referring the forums.
1. I'm not sure if I can update just the Touch flo 3d to a higher version without updating the ROM. So I havent done anything yet
2. I've tried to tweak the registry and also used HD Tweak to correct the ringing problem but still no good.
What I've installed on fone so far ?
1. I've got S2U2, HD Tweak , and some apps for Windows Market place.
What I really need ?
1. A smooth touch flo 3d version like the one for TP2 Sprint version [Its awesome]
2. Ring without delay
3. Smooth and easy messaging.
Now please suggest if a new ROM will fix these problems or I could just do away with cab files that could fix this problem ?
If a new ROM is required , based on "What i really need" can you suggest something which would get me close to or exactly the same ROM which is running on the TP2 Sprint version.
PS : I typed out a long description , so please excuse me if I went out of track and if somethings are unclear
@ MODS : I just realised that I may have posted in the wrong section. Please move it if necessary.

Hey,
I guess you're using a stock winmo 6.1 ROM. IMHO the stock ROMS are not as fast as some of the cooked ROMS found here. Difference between winmo 6.1 and winmo 6.5 is just personal taste but I prefer the 6.5 because of its finger friendly UI. Drawback is most of the ROMS drain the battery faster compared to 6.1. Maybe you can try a 6.5 ROM and see if you like it. I like Energy and Xannytech Roms, but again, that's personal taste. You can just flash a few and see what u like best.
As for the GPRS problem, some ROMS have cooked in apps for this, but I like WM Longlife as u can customize alot, ranging from completely disabling GPRS to not put it on when roaming. I hope I helped u a bit

Well , it is a stock rom as i just got this device last week. It was shipped from HK.
About flashing ROM's to my device , im still a lil too skeptical as I'm running Windows 7 and most of the flashing guides have reference to either vista or earlier versions of windows.
I also remember reading about a guy trying to flash a cooked rom and he was running Windows 7 and he claims to have bricked the device and it just refuses to turn on.
I'm still going through the wiki and downloading all the necessary tools required to flash my device. Once i'm a confident and comfortable I will go ahead and try out all the ROM's. I'm sure to get addicted to it.
And btw, if i flash the ROM to some cooked ROM and I decide to go back to stock ROM , will pushing the tiny reset button under the battery get my fone back to stock ROM ?

Like you, when I first got my HD, I was a bit concerned of bricking my device if I flash to a custom ROM. But let me tell you, with the stock ROM of yours, you wont see the full potential of your HD...I too experienced those things you mentioned and suffered for a while...if you feel its too early for you to flash, then just check some possible fix for your concern in cabs. I believe the HTC site has a fix for this typing delay bug, not sure about the ring issue.
But if you think its time, then read this Dummies Guide and just a heads up, flashing can be very addictive...so GET READY TO BECOME A FLASH-AHOLIC!

kieboy said:
...so GET READY TO BECOME A FLASH-AHOLIC!
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Agreed, this ability to transform your phone is quick addictive. Be prepared to loss a bit of sleep as the excitement of manipulating your device sometimes can replace your basic needs for other things...
Girlfriends / wives might notice a difference...LOL
Some of us are worse then other.....

band27 said:
Agreed, this ability to transform your phone is quick addictive. Be prepared to loss a bit of sleep as the excitement of manipulating your device sometimes can replace your basic needs for other things...
Girlfriends / wives might notice a difference...LOL
Some of us are worse then other.....
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Spot on ! I'm on XDA like all the time - @ work , @ school .. you name it .
I want to learn as much as possible before I try experimenting anything.
I did try all the patches that HTC has offered but , it hasnt fixed it. HD Tweak was really good and to some extent has solved my problems.
Does Windows 7 have anything to do while flashing the ROM , I mean do i need to take care of anything before I go ahead just in case in the future ?

napsterdj said:
Spot on ! I'm on XDA like all the time - @ work , @ school .. you name it .
I want to learn as much as possible before I try experimenting anything.
I did try all the patches that HTC has offered but , it hasnt fixed it. HD Tweak was really good and to some extent has solved my problems.
Does Windows 7 have anything to do while flashing the ROM , I mean do i need to take care of anything before I go ahead just in case in the future ?
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If you use HDSPL to protect your device then you are fine with Windows 7. However, if you use USPL then look <<HERE>>. Once again if you use HDSPL, then skip above drivers and follow <<HERE>>

Wait a second. Have you tried installing some 3D drivers first? And do you realize that Windows Mobile 6.1 is FASTER than 6.5?

NeoS2007 said:
Wait a second. Have you tried installing some 3D drivers first? And do you realize that Windows Mobile 6.1 is FASTER than 6.5?
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I havent installed the 3D Drivers as yet. Does it enhance the performance of TF3D ?
I havent tried the 6.5 yet as i'm still on the stock ROM , but after i saw a video on youtube of Dutty's 3.9x turbo running 6.5 , i really want to try that ROM as it looked really smooth and fast.

Icons are all jumbled up and hard to see

Can anyone explain to me how something like this may have happened and what I can do to correct it? I experienced it before when I was trying some registry tweaks, however this time it seems to have happened on its own.

flash another rom

No success - at least with all of the sense 2.5 wm6.5 ROMs. Problem keeps reoccurring.

jmreyesiii said:
No success - at least with all of the sense 2.5 wm6.5 ROMs. Problem keeps reoccurring.
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i had the same problem but it was because of a missing file and the menu was getting all laggy....i just flashed omj's rom over at ppcgeeks and it worked again...

Yeah, tried OMJ's ROM too, and at first things looked fine, but then it happens again. I've even tried installing software one at a time and in different orders to see if it's a software conflict, but nothing confirmed yet. Oh well, I have the quicklinks with Cookie's Home Tab, so I'll at least have access my most common apps. The "techie-wanna be" inside me, and being a man, I still feel the need to solve this. If I ever do I'll advise the cause and solution.
Update: Well I used XTask to close what I believe was a mail app running in the background (I only use my Diamond as a PDA), and then I removed XTask from Windows/Start, so it doesn't automatically start. Now there is no lag, even after said apps were restarted. Can't say for sure now why I had the problem in the first place.