Hello there dear XDA crew. All glories to you, our great comunity, and so, so...
I wanted to make a thread in here, that will bring all our experiences with VOIP on our beloved TRINITY. I just got the divice for this particular reason, and i cannon make it run Smooth and silky.
I read so many thread, dot find the best solution. Is it existing? Is it possible to use our Trinitys for nice VOIP calling with no problems...
I have seen few users fighting with this subject also, so please lets share our experience.
1. How to make a voip run smoothly?
2. What providers do u use, and u think the quality is the best?
Thanx a lot, and i hope someone could help to use my beloved Trinity with Voip.
Greets.
Aleph
Hello...
Does nobody uses VOIP on Trinity? Or maybe everything is explained allready in different places in the forum i just couldn`t find it.
What is the actual state of VOIP on trinity?
Can we make phone calls with the sound from the front speaker?
Please anyone who is using VOIP with Trinity, please share with me the info...
How to configure the Trinity, so Voip works fine with native dialer...
Is it possible? It should be.... That was the reason for me to buy the Trinity, so please help me can i make it running, or i should look for some other hardware, like Nokia N95, where Voip works so nice...
But i love my trinity though, and i want her sing form me the Voip serenade.
Plz, plz, plz - anyone can guide me in this VOIP world on Trin100?
Excuse maybe i am completely stupid and i do not know, that everything is working properly now.
Please do not ignore me, let someone who uses voip share with me his experience.
Thank you very much.
The wm6 standard voip will only output via speakerphone. If you want a good voip software that will output voip via the correct internal speaker, get AgePhone Mobile. Very good software.
chavonbravo said:
The wm6 standard voip will only output via speakerphone. If you want a good voip software that will output voip via the correct internal speaker, get AgePhone Mobile. Very good software.
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Hmmmm. Do not believe in that so much. Maybe 1 year ago, but we are almost in 2009.
I am able to get the connections, via wifi, also via 3g. The sound comes from front speaker, but the sound quality is not so good, so i am looking for the solutions, how to make it the best. I download few cabs, but read many about some REGISTRY TWEAKS, which i do not know how to do...
BTW. I have tried AgePhone. It is not so very good as many of you say inside the threads about VOIP. Maybe you want to get customer for the 35$ product which is not so good.
Internal VOIP in WM6 should be possible now.
Please, anyone who really know about this subject, please give some input...
THX.
PS. Also about the providers, which you find that you have the best connections, and sound quality...
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The sound comes from front speaker, but the sound quality is not so good, so i am looking for the solutions, how to make it the best.
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oh, no.
today i have realised, that the sound comes from the back speaker, i was just thinking it is normal one...
so is this is true?
we cannot use voip on the normal phone speaker in WM6 in general? Or this is the issue of the trinity?
is this AEG is the really only sollution? should i invest and get this one?
and how it is possible that it is working in AEGphone and not working in WM6 native dialer? can anyone explain me that?
Damn. Will i get any answers here from you guys. Any clue? Maybe some link like:
-- hey stupid dummy here is everything written about that issue.
thx
No need to curse. If you;d spent the time you took to post several angry messages that noone is helping to search the forum instead, you would have found this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401608
This is the best you can get with WM6 native SIP stack, some people report they were able to use the regular speaker, but it's not always the case.
Well, thank you very much. I spent some time, i have found several threads, could not figure it out the final solution. I was looking around trinity field. Thank you for your help and time, that what i was waiting for. I will check that thred you linked me with. Once again thx a lot and sorry for noobizm and laziness.
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I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
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I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
Hello,
I bought the Herald because I wanted to use VOIP on it eventually.
But then it doesn't seem to work quite as expected. The main problem is that the sound doesn't come from the earpiece but from the speakerphone instead...
Has this problem been solved???
Thanks in advance!
/Stig
tested , it is not working on T-mobile Wing, it keeps saying "searching", I may have to change ROM to use Microsoft VOIP.
the SJphone works fine on Wing
cgigate said:
tested , it is not working on T-mobile Wing, it keeps saying "searching", I may have to change ROM to use Microsoft VOIP.
the SJphone works fine on Wing
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I had made an earlier POST about using VOIP on wing. Will appreciate your help to setup VOIP on Wing. I downloaded and installed WM6VOIP and Setupvoip from the forum - but did not understand how to get the device to dial out. Do you need to use the phone dialer or do you need to use another softphone software.
Will appreciate your thoughts...
Nick
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I had made an earlier POST about using VOIP on wing. Will appreciate your help to setup VOIP on Wing. I downloaded and installed WM6VOIP and Setupvoip from the forum - but did not understand how to get the device to dial out. Do you need to use the phone dialer or do you need to use another softphone software.
Will appreciate your thoughts...
Nick
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anyone bother to read around a bit...
it uses the same dialer for GSM and for VoIP calls.
anyway - fring is the best solution
Must admit to being suprised not to find a thread about this. Apparently this is possible with the Kaiser, but has anyone released a CAB to activate it yet?
(While I'm at it a VoIP Dial Plan wizard is also a sorely missed feature from all WM6 devices - wink wink )
Anyone?
Any news on this.... I'm very interested!
Lookat this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348000&highlight=VoIP
As I understood it's not possible to use VoIP with the front speaker, only rear speaker or headset.
Greetz,
Hans Olo
EDIT: In the last posts of the linked thread it's mentioned that it will work with one of dutty's ROMs...
The way I read it that thread says the opposite - it says it is working in the Kaiser. I also read elsewhere that the Kaiser hardware will allow it, whilst older phones like the Wizard would not.
I have now pledged money to the first developer to fix it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355062&goto=newpost
Have you still got your money? (Im hoping that someone has provided the goods)
Ifso, please let me know!
Subscribe to the other thread to find out when someone delivers the fix.
Did anyone try to use a SIP client on the Diamond?
Go and give a try Fring. Website: www.fring.com
Go to www.fring.com and give a try. It works for me
Hi,
Unlike any of the voip/sip apps ive tried on the diamond the only one working correctly, including usage of the internal speaker instead of the external one where the whole world can listen in on your conversation, ageet has managed to create a proper voip app.
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
Enjoy
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972
nickokio said:
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
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I just tried it...it seems to work allrite. But still external speaker on a touch diamond with the latest version (2.7)
Another problem with voipbuster, when other side picks up the phone connection drops out...
So not worth the money yet
nickokio said:
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
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I agree, poor quality using Fring, and it stopped my browsers working over NextG...
I found using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972) works the best and the most simple, but think there must be a problem with the dial plan as I can't call mobiles.
Do be careful when installing wm6voip.cab.
In most cases it will break GPS functionality, which will require a hard reset.
I remember there is a thread on getting this to work anyway without breaking GPS, if you do incist on using wm6voip.cab ( i think its crap ).
Go with ageet. its such a nice app works great, uses internal speaker. really worth the money, especially to reward a company to have finally fixed the speaker issues, something other companies failed to do for... what is it.. years now? on windows mobile platforms.
today i installed the beta version of sjphone for wm5...
Seems to work very good so far. Dislike agephone as well...not worth a single penny
Fring sucks. It tunnels everything via their server in England.
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I agree, poor quality using Fring, and it stopped my browsers working over NextG...
I found using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972) works the best and the most simple, but think there must be a problem with the dial plan as I can't call mobiles.
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Yeah the default dialplan is American. You need to edit ipdialplan.xml. I can give you mine if you want, will work fine if your SIP provider doesn't need any special pre-processing. I use Internode's nodephone service over nextg on my jasjam.. saves me a lot of money.
I'd like to hear if wm6voip.cap works well on the Diamond. I'm reluctant to buy any phone without VoIP support these days.
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Yeah the default dialplan is American. You need to edit ipdialplan.xml. I can give you mine if you want, will work fine if your SIP provider doesn't need any special pre-processing. I use Internode's nodephone service over nextg on my jasjam.. saves me a lot of money.
I'd like to hear if wm6voip.cap works well on the Diamond. I'm reluctant to buy any phone without VoIP support these days.
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Ahh, I thought that might be the case... Yeah, I'm using Nodephone too!
I did open up the dial plan in XML Notepad to check it out and it looked American, but was needing some direction as to what would need changing...
To have your would be great if you don't mind?
I've not really tested the VoIP service on my Diamond that much yet, but it is forcing the VoIP to go handsfree which is annoying! But I belive there may be a fix for that...
So enlighten us with your philosophy on why it would not be worth a single penny.
nickokio said:
today i installed the beta version of sjphone for wm5...
Seems to work very good so far. Dislike agephone as well...not worth a single penny
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well the best reason:
Its not any better than sjphone beta so not worth anything...
I deinstalled it because off:
- Poor sound quality
- Random disconnects
- Disconnects when other side picked up the phone
- And the internal speaker is not working for the diamond
Tested with voipbuster
http://www.voipbuster.com/nl/smart_dialing.html
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http://www.voipbuster.com/nl/smart_dialing.html
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w000t u rule
All the reasons you name are in my opinion not related to AgePhone at all but to your voipproviders and/or bandwith. Also the application requires reading the documentation, setting up proper codecs, and also enabling a feature that WILL enable the internal speaker on your diamond. (Speaker Switching Option) This has been tested and working quite fine.
nickokio said:
well the best reason:
Its not any better than sjphone beta so not worth anything...
I deinstalled it because off:
- Poor sound quality
- Random disconnects
- Disconnects when other side picked up the phone
- And the internal speaker is not working for the diamond
Tested with voipbuster
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This is not true client initiated sip/voip, but a small client that will initiate a 2 legged call back system where your phone will dial a local number. which means you will still be billed for local phone calls. so this is only usefull for long distance calls abroad.
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All the reasons you name are in my opinion not related to AgePhone at all but to your voipproviders and/or bandwith. Also the application requires reading the documentation, setting up proper codecs, and also enabling a feature that WILL enable the internal speaker on your diamond. (Speaker Switching Option) This has been tested and working quite fine.
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Well for my configuration and voipbuster with good internet connection and wifi sjphone beta performs better than agephone
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This is not true client initiated sip/voip, but a small client that will initiate a 2 legged call back system where your phone will dial a local number. which means you will still be billed for local phone calls. so this is only usefull for long distance calls abroad.
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True thats too bad, but can anyways be usefull sometimes
And the sms option should work in abroad countries
HI,
First of all I would like to say thank you to all the people of this website which is doing his best to give us day by day new elements to appreciate better and better our phone.
Now this is my problem :
I've currently a kaiser with the diamond L9 rom and the radio 1.71
I've installed on my kaiser TOMTOM 7.45 and since that , I can't ear nothing from the other part when someone is calling me or when I call Someone
Anyway, if I put the speaker on I can ear the oher part and it works also with a headset.
This problem is quite annoying cause I don't want all the people arround me listen to my conversation with the speaker on !
I've tested other roms and also a lot of radios but the problem still remains
I've also tested rom 6.0 with radios 6.0 but without any good results.
I've also tried the audiogain solutions but nothing !
Please can someone give me the solution ??
Thanks in advance