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Update on SSD in Shift

Hi, can anyone who's replaced the HDD with an SSD please post their experiences here. What differences have you found? Was it worth it?
- is the Shift more responsive or reliable?
- does it go to and return from sleep much faster?
I've been using an X300 with SSD for the past month and i couldn't imagine going back to HDD now. Would love to get SSD working in my Shift too but want to make sure the benefit is actually clear before making the $$$ investment!

Hi salmon,
i´m with you. I have some SSD HDD installed in my CarPC, 2 in my Servers and one in a Fujitsu Notebook. All of them works well. The last that i bought was the OCZ 2.5" 128GB SSD,
is not bad, but not really good, so they use the cheap Memory modules.
what for a SSD manufactor/ model you think about to build into your shift?
I think about this too, but if there no solution to become WM6.1 stable on the shift, I think the better way is to look to the other "Net-PC´s" that much more cheaper with the same features.

Hi joy.d,
I'm with you on that one. Since i got my Lenovo X300 with almost instant on/off standby functionality and super light chassis and SSD it's really shown up the Shift... i still haven't lost all hope, but have been eyeing up an Eee PC lately thinking "wow, just think how much money i could have saved!".
I do like the tablet form factor of the shift though and want to invest a bit to see if some of it's flaws can be overcome.

ok But which SSD you would like to use for the shift? 5000 series from Sandisk? (very slow)

I'm using MTRON MSD-PATA3018-ZIF2. I'm happy with the performance. The HDD index of Vista is 5.9.

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see here some hints:
http://www.dvnation.com/microatapics.html
I see, the Fujitsu-Siemens (Fujitsu) Lifebooks P7120, P1610 ans so on have the same connector. A micro-ATA connector. I found on Ebay some 32 Gigabyte SSD´s with micro-ata connector. But no 64GB. Maybe there is a small adapter cable to attach SSD´s with ZIF /PATA to micro-ATA...
here the adapter:
http://shop.ebay.com/sis/_W0QQ_kwZN...1Q2e8Q22Q20CFQ2fIDEQ20hardQ20driverQ20adapter
http://cgi.ebay.at/1-8-ZIF-harddisk...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:1|39:1|240:1318
so you can use cheap 64/128GB 1,8" SSD with ZIF Connector.
Modding Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook P7230 to ZIF SSD
http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12497
only question: there a 2 Versions: SATA and PATA Harddisks with the same ZIF connector. what works?

Waiting for my MTRON SSD to be delivered
I had ordered a MTRON Mobi3000 32GB 1.8" SLC SSD around 3 weeks ago for my Shift. Spoke with the supplier yesterday and they say it will be another week. This has a ZIF2 connector, not sure how different this is to a plain ZIF connector... we will see.
Very interested in boot times. I put Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs on my shift and have boot times of 20~25 seconds with the HDD, expecting sub 5 with the MTRON.
Paying $410 AUD delivered for the SSD

as far as i know for MTRON MOBI 3000 , zif ---> zif2 for mobi can be refered as 8mm-->5mm.HTC shift use ZIF2 for mtron.
japan got a lot of mobi 3000 32gb slc zif2 around 2man yen.
i plan to get one soon. but it seems the 64gb for zif 2 from others brand out too.

here is the demo for htc shift for mobi 3000 32gb slc!!
i seen this page long time ago though ,just forgot to link it here.
http://travelx.org/htc_shift/htc_shift.html
benchmarks also got!! use the google translator to translate it.but pictures said everything ^_*

Anyone knows where the compact flash card on one of the picture is from?
Is it from Snapvues internal storage?
If it is it would be easy to change it with a larger card and then be able to get a lot more storage on WM6 side?
Maybe I'm far off, but I just got the idea. Sorry if it has already been covered before

Kakemann
He wanted to use that storage card as a HD, but the cable was to short.
It's not a default item in the Shift.
If you search for naked shift or something like that, you will find pictures of if

bosmen means, that the WM6 side has fixed memory inside mounted, not changeable, the compact flash to zif adapter with 32GB compact flash was a Idea to have a cheap HDD replacement of the slow 40GB HDD from HTC, but there is the originaly mounted ZIF cable to short.
Im shure, the idea with CF Card is to slow.. (but a good cheap Idea ;-)

Just received my MTRON SSD
Just received my MTRON SSD after waiting about a month!
Will install it tonight so very keen to see vista boot times...

is ur vista business or home? home will definitely fly u out of windows (fast!) :}

SSD Vista boot time
Well have installed the MTRON SSD and restored the original Vista Business image with Origami and the MS Office trial. Now I am sure somewhere in Vista there is a utility to tell you the boot time, but I can't find it. So going by the unscientific watching the clock method of measurement it takes 2:05 to go from the 'press del to enter the bios' etc screen to finishing loading Origami (who actually is using that thing?). From memory that was taking 3:30 before hand.
Vista is really twitchy now. Very responsive to input - that is going to take a bit of getting used to.

can u post the benchmark read /write for mtron ssd ? wana know more the performance...

hcping said:
can u post the benchmark read /write for mtron ssd ? wana know more the performance...
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you can look in my thread about HDD comparison for read performances.
any idea of another program than HD Tach for read/write perfs?

koala996 said:
you can look in my thread about HDD comparison for read performances.
any idea of another program than HD Tach for read/write perfs?
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use this on shift please? coz japan here use this to mark ssd

hcping said:
use this on shift please? coz japan here use this to mark ssd
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look on the screen in HDD comparison... he posts the result of HD Tach.
The site announce 100MB/s in read and write... it's about 85MBs for read.. I guess it is about 80MB/s for write

this model from samsung fits to - or not?
Samsung MCCDE64GEMPP-01A
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP

New laptop ordered...good deal?

I pulled the trigger on a HP dv7t laptop. Here is what I got on it...
17" screen
Intel Core I7-2720qm processor
8 gig ddr3 ram
750 gig hard drive
ATI Radeon 6570 graphics card
Bluetooth
BLU-RAY write/read
DL-DVD write/read
I and getting this to mostly hook up to a 50" plasma and have discrete 7.1 surround sound through a fairly hi-end home theater. Ill also be converting avi videos to dvd and bluray format so I can burn dvd and bluray......home videos of course used a online coupon and got it for 1163 tax and shipping included.

you did get an excellent deal on an hp!!!
750gb????? 2tb hdd is only £60 about $100
nice system though
hope you enjoy it!!

I allready have a 2tb nas drive for the house so I'm not so concerned about hd space. Thanks though!

stangdriverdoug said:
I pulled the trigger on a HP dv7t laptop. Here is what I got on it...
17" screen
Intel Core I7-2720qm processor
8 gig ddr3 ram
750 gig hard drive
ATI Radeon 6570 graphics card
Bluetooth
BLU-RAY write/read
DL-DVD write/read
I and getting this to mostly hook up to a 50" plasma and have discrete 7.1 surround sound through a fairly hi-end home theater. Ill also be converting avi videos to dvd and bluray format so I can burn dvd and bluray......home videos of course used a online coupon and got it for 1163 tax and shipping included.
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Yea that was a great deal
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Wait... I'd find it hard to find a PC with an i7 for $1200 Let alone a 17" laptop.
Man.. Thats amazing specs... Better than my pc's And for only $1200 which is like how many £
Now you got me lookin

I have been keeping my eye on the prices for a while and it was too low to resist. I just hope the processor is powerful enough for video encoding.

sweet indeed , how much was the coup worth ?

souljaboy said:
sweet indeed , how much was the coup worth ?
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$500 there is only a limited amount.

Pretty nice little laptop. What does the HT speed run at on that i7?

vbetts said:
Pretty nice little laptop. What does the HT speed run at on that i7?
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What do you mean by ht speed?

stangdriverdoug said:
What do you mean by ht speed?
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Turbo Boost. i7 architecture run at 2 stock speeds, one for power saving, and one for high performance. This also goes along the performance of the HT capabilities inside the chip.

Oh ok.....normal speed is 2.2 and turbo boost is 3.3

Seriously you got a nice processor there How much it cost you ?

Would a RAM upgrade speed up my laptop?

Hey guys, I'm thinking about giving my laptop a little speed boost. This would be the first time I've replaced anything in a laptop to make it go faster (I've replaced an LCD before) and it looks easy enough, but is it worth the money?
I'm considering going to 8Gb DDR3 1333MHZ from 4Gb. It's going to cost about £60 for the RAM, and I'd sell the old stuff on ebay, which should make it slightly more affordable. RAM is the joint lowest windows experience index score with my HDD at 5.9, so that's why I thought I'd start there.
My computer specs are:
i-7 740qm 1.73GHz quad core processor
Nvidia 335M GPU
RAM would certainly be the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, but is it worth it? I do quite a bit of gaming, mostly Wii games with Dolphin Emu.
Cheers

axw820 said:
Hey guys, I'm thinking about giving my laptop a little speed boost. This would be the first time I've replaced anything in a laptop to make it go faster (I've replaced an LCD before) and it looks easy enough, but is it worth the money?
I'm considering going to 8Gb DDR3 1333MHZ from 4Gb. It's going to cost about £60 for the RAM, and I'd sell the old stuff on ebay, which should make it slightly more affordable. RAM is the joint lowest windows experience index score with my HDD at 5.9, so that's why I thought I'd start there.
My computer specs are:
i-7 740qm 1.73GHz quad core processor
Nvidia 335M GPU
RAM would certainly be the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, but is it worth it? I do quite a bit of gaming, mostly Wii games with Dolphin Emu.
Cheers
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4GB would seem like enough, but yea it should provide a performance boost. If you can, you should go with 1600Mhz instead of 1333Mhz. Btw what kind of laptop do you have? Also the more DIMMS, the more better.
8GB would provide a good performance boost.
4GB is optimal, and 8GB for anything in general is actually best. 1600Mhz would even be better.
Sorry for the two posts. I've been awake for the past 24hrs.

Also are you running your operating system in 64bit or 32bit? I figured I'd ask since your specs for a laptop seem fine regarding performance.

It's a Dell XPS L501x. 1600MHz also looks afforable, I might go for that. As I say I am new to this, is it definitely possible to put 1600 in to replace 1333? All I know about my current RAM is that it is 2x2Gb 1333MHz ddr3 204pin. Is it as simple as taking the laptop apart, out with the old, in with the new, boot it up? That's what the manual is suggesting.
Oh, and it's 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium

axw820 said:
It's a Dell XPS L501x. 1600MHz also looks afforable, I might go for that. As I say I am new to this, is it definitely possible to put 1600 in to replace 1333? All I know about my current RAM is that it is 2x2Gb 1333MHz ddr3 204pin. Is it as simple as taking the laptop apart, out with the old, in with the new, boot it up? That's what the manual is suggesting.
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I'll look into your laptop to see if it is compatible, which it should be. Anyhow for my dad's XPS M1730, there is a little door on the bottom of it that needs to be unscrewed so you can replace the RAM. It is easy as pie, just make sure you install it correctly and check if your motherboard supports 8GB.

Okay I've checked out your laptop. It supports up to 8GB 1333Mhz so 1600Mhz is out of the question. So upgrade to 8GB 1333Mhz.

Fantastic, thank you. How much of a performance boost do you think it'll give? I'm eventually planning to upgrade to a faster hard drive too.

axw820 said:
Fantastic, thank you. How much of a performance boost do you think it'll give? I'm eventually planning to upgrade to a faster hard drive too.
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It will be notable.
Here is how RAM works with laptops.
2GB is Fair
4GB is Solid
8GB would be considered best. This includes desktops that are for gaming.
So if you ever build a gaming desktop, 8GB would be more than enough for enthusiasts gamers.
Your laptop comes with a 7200RPM Hard drive which is good as it is. I do not know if it supports a 10,000RPM hard drive. If anything you should check out solid state drives also known as SSD's. They are expensive, but they provide gorgeous performance. Just make sure your laptop supports it.

Well thats laptop is even speedier than my desktop from 2007 AMD 4400(something).
Using mostly a EeePC 1005HA (Win7 starter) with 2GB of RAM.
I found that the best way to use that excess RAM was by turning of the Windows Paging file/Swap file off. Windows is forced to use the RAM the computer got.
Which is giving a terrific speed boost. Have runned the 1005HA without Swap file since December 2009.
Also make sure to have updated BIOS firmware, my Desktop was sluggish and slow after installing Win7 Home. It turned out to be the BIOS needed a firmware that worked with Win7.

what kind of ram to get?

i ordered this laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215197 and well i wanna upgrade it to 8 gigs (2 2GB) it says it has DDR3 1066 can it take this kind?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231295
or should i just get this kind?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231294
i like G.skill and i have allways used there ram and never had a problem with them

Go with the cheaper kit. It won't make any noticeable difference.

Like stated already, go with the cheapest.

thanks for the help!

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