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Hi, can anyone who's replaced the HDD with an SSD please post their experiences here. What differences have you found? Was it worth it?
- is the Shift more responsive or reliable?
- does it go to and return from sleep much faster?
I've been using an X300 with SSD for the past month and i couldn't imagine going back to HDD now. Would love to get SSD working in my Shift too but want to make sure the benefit is actually clear before making the $$$ investment!
Hi salmon,
i´m with you. I have some SSD HDD installed in my CarPC, 2 in my Servers and one in a Fujitsu Notebook. All of them works well. The last that i bought was the OCZ 2.5" 128GB SSD,
is not bad, but not really good, so they use the cheap Memory modules.
what for a SSD manufactor/ model you think about to build into your shift?
I think about this too, but if there no solution to become WM6.1 stable on the shift, I think the better way is to look to the other "Net-PC´s" that much more cheaper with the same features.
Hi joy.d,
I'm with you on that one. Since i got my Lenovo X300 with almost instant on/off standby functionality and super light chassis and SSD it's really shown up the Shift... i still haven't lost all hope, but have been eyeing up an Eee PC lately thinking "wow, just think how much money i could have saved!".
I do like the tablet form factor of the shift though and want to invest a bit to see if some of it's flaws can be overcome.
ok But which SSD you would like to use for the shift? 5000 series from Sandisk? (very slow)
I'm using MTRON MSD-PATA3018-ZIF2. I'm happy with the performance. The HDD index of Vista is 5.9.
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see here some hints:
http://www.dvnation.com/microatapics.html
I see, the Fujitsu-Siemens (Fujitsu) Lifebooks P7120, P1610 ans so on have the same connector. A micro-ATA connector. I found on Ebay some 32 Gigabyte SSD´s with micro-ata connector. But no 64GB. Maybe there is a small adapter cable to attach SSD´s with ZIF /PATA to micro-ATA...
here the adapter:
http://shop.ebay.com/sis/_W0QQ_kwZN...1Q2e8Q22Q20CFQ2fIDEQ20hardQ20driverQ20adapter
http://cgi.ebay.at/1-8-ZIF-harddisk...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:1|39:1|240:1318
so you can use cheap 64/128GB 1,8" SSD with ZIF Connector.
Modding Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook P7230 to ZIF SSD
http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12497
only question: there a 2 Versions: SATA and PATA Harddisks with the same ZIF connector. what works?
Waiting for my MTRON SSD to be delivered
I had ordered a MTRON Mobi3000 32GB 1.8" SLC SSD around 3 weeks ago for my Shift. Spoke with the supplier yesterday and they say it will be another week. This has a ZIF2 connector, not sure how different this is to a plain ZIF connector... we will see.
Very interested in boot times. I put Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs on my shift and have boot times of 20~25 seconds with the HDD, expecting sub 5 with the MTRON.
Paying $410 AUD delivered for the SSD
as far as i know for MTRON MOBI 3000 , zif ---> zif2 for mobi can be refered as 8mm-->5mm.HTC shift use ZIF2 for mtron.
japan got a lot of mobi 3000 32gb slc zif2 around 2man yen.
i plan to get one soon. but it seems the 64gb for zif 2 from others brand out too.
here is the demo for htc shift for mobi 3000 32gb slc!!
i seen this page long time ago though ,just forgot to link it here.
http://travelx.org/htc_shift/htc_shift.html
benchmarks also got!! use the google translator to translate it.but pictures said everything ^_*
Anyone knows where the compact flash card on one of the picture is from?
Is it from Snapvues internal storage?
If it is it would be easy to change it with a larger card and then be able to get a lot more storage on WM6 side?
Maybe I'm far off, but I just got the idea. Sorry if it has already been covered before
Kakemann
He wanted to use that storage card as a HD, but the cable was to short.
It's not a default item in the Shift.
If you search for naked shift or something like that, you will find pictures of if
bosmen means, that the WM6 side has fixed memory inside mounted, not changeable, the compact flash to zif adapter with 32GB compact flash was a Idea to have a cheap HDD replacement of the slow 40GB HDD from HTC, but there is the originaly mounted ZIF cable to short.
Im shure, the idea with CF Card is to slow.. (but a good cheap Idea ;-)
Just received my MTRON SSD
Just received my MTRON SSD after waiting about a month!
Will install it tonight so very keen to see vista boot times...
is ur vista business or home? home will definitely fly u out of windows (fast!) :}
SSD Vista boot time
Well have installed the MTRON SSD and restored the original Vista Business image with Origami and the MS Office trial. Now I am sure somewhere in Vista there is a utility to tell you the boot time, but I can't find it. So going by the unscientific watching the clock method of measurement it takes 2:05 to go from the 'press del to enter the bios' etc screen to finishing loading Origami (who actually is using that thing?). From memory that was taking 3:30 before hand.
Vista is really twitchy now. Very responsive to input - that is going to take a bit of getting used to.
can u post the benchmark read /write for mtron ssd ? wana know more the performance...
hcping said:
can u post the benchmark read /write for mtron ssd ? wana know more the performance...
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you can look in my thread about HDD comparison for read performances.
any idea of another program than HD Tach for read/write perfs?
koala996 said:
you can look in my thread about HDD comparison for read performances.
any idea of another program than HD Tach for read/write perfs?
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use this on shift please? coz japan here use this to mark ssd
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use this on shift please? coz japan here use this to mark ssd
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look on the screen in HDD comparison... he posts the result of HD Tach.
The site announce 100MB/s in read and write... it's about 85MBs for read.. I guess it is about 80MB/s for write
this model from samsung fits to - or not?
Samsung MCCDE64GEMPP-01A
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
I want to sell a computer I dont use anymore which isn't too too old, and still very usable. What I'd like to know is what you think I should sell this thing for.
Specs:
Athlon 64 3500 2.2ghz
1gb RAM
ATI X800XL 256mb gfx card
2 80gb hard drives
Some LG DVD burning drive with lightscribe or whatever.
Fairly uninteresting case with a 400w power supply made by antec (not that it really matters)
Windows XP OR Windows vista whichever the person wants.
and finally, a 17 inch LG LCD monitor (Model is L1710S to be exact)
So what would you sell this for?
probably $200-250
Yeah around US$200 - 280
it would depend on how you sell it. i buy and sell computers a lot; i am friends with the owner of a local computer store he lets me put used computers up at his store. I have found that i make the most off of them when i do this maybe you could check out doing that.
Hey guys, I'm thinking about giving my laptop a little speed boost. This would be the first time I've replaced anything in a laptop to make it go faster (I've replaced an LCD before) and it looks easy enough, but is it worth the money?
I'm considering going to 8Gb DDR3 1333MHZ from 4Gb. It's going to cost about £60 for the RAM, and I'd sell the old stuff on ebay, which should make it slightly more affordable. RAM is the joint lowest windows experience index score with my HDD at 5.9, so that's why I thought I'd start there.
My computer specs are:
i-7 740qm 1.73GHz quad core processor
Nvidia 335M GPU
RAM would certainly be the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, but is it worth it? I do quite a bit of gaming, mostly Wii games with Dolphin Emu.
Cheers
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about giving my laptop a little speed boost. This would be the first time I've replaced anything in a laptop to make it go faster (I've replaced an LCD before) and it looks easy enough, but is it worth the money?
I'm considering going to 8Gb DDR3 1333MHZ from 4Gb. It's going to cost about £60 for the RAM, and I'd sell the old stuff on ebay, which should make it slightly more affordable. RAM is the joint lowest windows experience index score with my HDD at 5.9, so that's why I thought I'd start there.
My computer specs are:
i-7 740qm 1.73GHz quad core processor
Nvidia 335M GPU
RAM would certainly be the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, but is it worth it? I do quite a bit of gaming, mostly Wii games with Dolphin Emu.
Cheers
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4GB would seem like enough, but yea it should provide a performance boost. If you can, you should go with 1600Mhz instead of 1333Mhz. Btw what kind of laptop do you have? Also the more DIMMS, the more better.
8GB would provide a good performance boost.
4GB is optimal, and 8GB for anything in general is actually best. 1600Mhz would even be better.
Sorry for the two posts. I've been awake for the past 24hrs.
Also are you running your operating system in 64bit or 32bit? I figured I'd ask since your specs for a laptop seem fine regarding performance.
It's a Dell XPS L501x. 1600MHz also looks afforable, I might go for that. As I say I am new to this, is it definitely possible to put 1600 in to replace 1333? All I know about my current RAM is that it is 2x2Gb 1333MHz ddr3 204pin. Is it as simple as taking the laptop apart, out with the old, in with the new, boot it up? That's what the manual is suggesting.
Oh, and it's 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium
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It's a Dell XPS L501x. 1600MHz also looks afforable, I might go for that. As I say I am new to this, is it definitely possible to put 1600 in to replace 1333? All I know about my current RAM is that it is 2x2Gb 1333MHz ddr3 204pin. Is it as simple as taking the laptop apart, out with the old, in with the new, boot it up? That's what the manual is suggesting.
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I'll look into your laptop to see if it is compatible, which it should be. Anyhow for my dad's XPS M1730, there is a little door on the bottom of it that needs to be unscrewed so you can replace the RAM. It is easy as pie, just make sure you install it correctly and check if your motherboard supports 8GB.
Okay I've checked out your laptop. It supports up to 8GB 1333Mhz so 1600Mhz is out of the question. So upgrade to 8GB 1333Mhz.
Fantastic, thank you. How much of a performance boost do you think it'll give? I'm eventually planning to upgrade to a faster hard drive too.
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Fantastic, thank you. How much of a performance boost do you think it'll give? I'm eventually planning to upgrade to a faster hard drive too.
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It will be notable.
Here is how RAM works with laptops.
2GB is Fair
4GB is Solid
8GB would be considered best. This includes desktops that are for gaming.
So if you ever build a gaming desktop, 8GB would be more than enough for enthusiasts gamers.
Your laptop comes with a 7200RPM Hard drive which is good as it is. I do not know if it supports a 10,000RPM hard drive. If anything you should check out solid state drives also known as SSD's. They are expensive, but they provide gorgeous performance. Just make sure your laptop supports it.
Well thats laptop is even speedier than my desktop from 2007 AMD 4400(something).
Using mostly a EeePC 1005HA (Win7 starter) with 2GB of RAM.
I found that the best way to use that excess RAM was by turning of the Windows Paging file/Swap file off. Windows is forced to use the RAM the computer got.
Which is giving a terrific speed boost. Have runned the 1005HA without Swap file since December 2009.
Also make sure to have updated BIOS firmware, my Desktop was sluggish and slow after installing Win7 Home. It turned out to be the BIOS needed a firmware that worked with Win7.
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
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No, real world performance will not be impacted by the 2 GB extra RAM. 8 GB of RAM would come in handy only if you are running so many intensive applications with some game playing side by side which is unlikely. That Extra RAM is kinda future proofing but it's a "distant" one, I would say. That nand flash storage speed is significantly higher than an SD card, but if 128 gigs internal is enough for you, it's not worth making that extra big hole in your pockets imo.
OutCastedSheep said:
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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Though it's shown with an asterisk, it's clearly mentioned in the "Performance" section of Note 9 that,
6 GB/128 GB only.
8 GB/512 GB only.
indicating if you are buying the 512 GB storage model then it has to be the 8 GB RAM variant.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note9/performance/
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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What are you talking about the US version doesn't come with the 8 gig of RAM? Did you watch the unpacking event which was US base?
US carriers already have the 8 gig of RAM version priced out
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They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
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force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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If there was a 256gb 8gb version I would have ordered that thing at midnight
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Agreed man. The 512GB storage is way overkill. Wish I could get the 8GB RAM with the lesser storage. I just cant justify the extra 250$ for an extra 2GB of RAM. (Yeah, I know you get the extra storage too, but I have no need for that.) Sigh. Likely, I will only keep this for 1 year anyways, so I don't worry about "future-proofing".
My thought is on all the speed tests, the 8GB version will be faster, but in real world performance, it most likely will not matter at all. Maybe in Dex mode, if you are using it as a PC? But otherwise, I doubt anyone would notice much of a performance difference.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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drmacrofish said:
This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
bat0nas said:
People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
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Most likely will be the same unless you are getting closer to filling the 128 GB drive.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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Yes usually the way more storage is added is by adding more storage chips inside, and they are usually arranged in parallel. So this opens up more read/write channels for the system to use simultaneously. So there should be a real world performance gain there.
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
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You're right, thanks.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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If the improvements that 6gb had over 4gb are anything to go by, I'd say it's worth it.
I'm hoping Linux on Galaxy/Dex arrives soon, perhaps that is the reasoning behind it, especially for things like android studio.
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
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My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
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For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
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For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
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I'm not so sure that will matter when it comes to multitasking. Android has a default of the amount of things that can be stored in RAM at the same time. It's also time based, meaning that after x amount of time, that active data is not stored anymore. At least that's how it ran last time I app developed for myself.
Now if Samsung engineered their way around that with the Note 9, that would be fantastic. The other issue or obstacle is that apps would need to actually support that feature. Some of them currently don't support backgrounding over an extended period of time, but I do believe the usual memory and data hog suspects do. Facebook, Snapchat, etc.
Ya know, I just realized it's been almost two years since I developed on Android. Wow! Take what I said up there with a giant Grand Canyon grain of salt.
There will be a slight performance boost in Antutu or other benchmark apps, u can not feel it.
I have the 8gb 512 model. And if I go to ram settings it says I only have 4.8 ram left over. It's brand new. No new apps or games. So my guess is if you have the 6gb version. You will probably only have like 3 or less to work with. I'm confused on why this is. Can someone enlighten me please?
I haven't bought a new computer psu in like 10 years. It's held me over through 2 or 3 rebuilds. I haven't needed to update my cpu,Mobo,and GPU in awhile. Current build is Intel 2600k cpu,8gb ram, and AMD 7770. Storage side I have a total of 1 SSD and 4 HDDs. 1(x1TB) WD Black, 3(1x2TB/2x3TB) WD Green HDD. I know I'm looking for a minimum 500w psu. I know it's best to go single 12+v rail. What names do you guys like? My current psu is Corsair HX520. How is thier build quality these days? I saw something on them the other day that said it depends on 2hich factory produces that 0atocular Corsair psu. Is that true? What brands do you guys like? Is bronze sufficient or should I stick with gold? Budget is about $75 use.