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Hi, can anyone who's replaced the HDD with an SSD please post their experiences here. What differences have you found? Was it worth it?
- is the Shift more responsive or reliable?
- does it go to and return from sleep much faster?
I've been using an X300 with SSD for the past month and i couldn't imagine going back to HDD now. Would love to get SSD working in my Shift too but want to make sure the benefit is actually clear before making the $$$ investment!
Hi salmon,
i´m with you. I have some SSD HDD installed in my CarPC, 2 in my Servers and one in a Fujitsu Notebook. All of them works well. The last that i bought was the OCZ 2.5" 128GB SSD,
is not bad, but not really good, so they use the cheap Memory modules.
what for a SSD manufactor/ model you think about to build into your shift?
I think about this too, but if there no solution to become WM6.1 stable on the shift, I think the better way is to look to the other "Net-PC´s" that much more cheaper with the same features.
Hi joy.d,
I'm with you on that one. Since i got my Lenovo X300 with almost instant on/off standby functionality and super light chassis and SSD it's really shown up the Shift... i still haven't lost all hope, but have been eyeing up an Eee PC lately thinking "wow, just think how much money i could have saved!".
I do like the tablet form factor of the shift though and want to invest a bit to see if some of it's flaws can be overcome.
ok But which SSD you would like to use for the shift? 5000 series from Sandisk? (very slow)
I'm using MTRON MSD-PATA3018-ZIF2. I'm happy with the performance. The HDD index of Vista is 5.9.
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see here some hints:
http://www.dvnation.com/microatapics.html
I see, the Fujitsu-Siemens (Fujitsu) Lifebooks P7120, P1610 ans so on have the same connector. A micro-ATA connector. I found on Ebay some 32 Gigabyte SSD´s with micro-ata connector. But no 64GB. Maybe there is a small adapter cable to attach SSD´s with ZIF /PATA to micro-ATA...
here the adapter:
http://shop.ebay.com/sis/_W0QQ_kwZN...1Q2e8Q22Q20CFQ2fIDEQ20hardQ20driverQ20adapter
http://cgi.ebay.at/1-8-ZIF-harddisk...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:1|39:1|240:1318
so you can use cheap 64/128GB 1,8" SSD with ZIF Connector.
Modding Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook P7230 to ZIF SSD
http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12497
only question: there a 2 Versions: SATA and PATA Harddisks with the same ZIF connector. what works?
Waiting for my MTRON SSD to be delivered
I had ordered a MTRON Mobi3000 32GB 1.8" SLC SSD around 3 weeks ago for my Shift. Spoke with the supplier yesterday and they say it will be another week. This has a ZIF2 connector, not sure how different this is to a plain ZIF connector... we will see.
Very interested in boot times. I put Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs on my shift and have boot times of 20~25 seconds with the HDD, expecting sub 5 with the MTRON.
Paying $410 AUD delivered for the SSD
as far as i know for MTRON MOBI 3000 , zif ---> zif2 for mobi can be refered as 8mm-->5mm.HTC shift use ZIF2 for mtron.
japan got a lot of mobi 3000 32gb slc zif2 around 2man yen.
i plan to get one soon. but it seems the 64gb for zif 2 from others brand out too.
here is the demo for htc shift for mobi 3000 32gb slc!!
i seen this page long time ago though ,just forgot to link it here.
http://travelx.org/htc_shift/htc_shift.html
benchmarks also got!! use the google translator to translate it.but pictures said everything ^_*
Anyone knows where the compact flash card on one of the picture is from?
Is it from Snapvues internal storage?
If it is it would be easy to change it with a larger card and then be able to get a lot more storage on WM6 side?
Maybe I'm far off, but I just got the idea. Sorry if it has already been covered before
Kakemann
He wanted to use that storage card as a HD, but the cable was to short.
It's not a default item in the Shift.
If you search for naked shift or something like that, you will find pictures of if
bosmen means, that the WM6 side has fixed memory inside mounted, not changeable, the compact flash to zif adapter with 32GB compact flash was a Idea to have a cheap HDD replacement of the slow 40GB HDD from HTC, but there is the originaly mounted ZIF cable to short.
Im shure, the idea with CF Card is to slow.. (but a good cheap Idea ;-)
Just received my MTRON SSD
Just received my MTRON SSD after waiting about a month!
Will install it tonight so very keen to see vista boot times...
is ur vista business or home? home will definitely fly u out of windows (fast!) :}
SSD Vista boot time
Well have installed the MTRON SSD and restored the original Vista Business image with Origami and the MS Office trial. Now I am sure somewhere in Vista there is a utility to tell you the boot time, but I can't find it. So going by the unscientific watching the clock method of measurement it takes 2:05 to go from the 'press del to enter the bios' etc screen to finishing loading Origami (who actually is using that thing?). From memory that was taking 3:30 before hand.
Vista is really twitchy now. Very responsive to input - that is going to take a bit of getting used to.
can u post the benchmark read /write for mtron ssd ? wana know more the performance...
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can u post the benchmark read /write for mtron ssd ? wana know more the performance...
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you can look in my thread about HDD comparison for read performances.
any idea of another program than HD Tach for read/write perfs?
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you can look in my thread about HDD comparison for read performances.
any idea of another program than HD Tach for read/write perfs?
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use this on shift please? coz japan here use this to mark ssd
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use this on shift please? coz japan here use this to mark ssd
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look on the screen in HDD comparison... he posts the result of HD Tach.
The site announce 100MB/s in read and write... it's about 85MBs for read.. I guess it is about 80MB/s for write
this model from samsung fits to - or not?
Samsung MCCDE64GEMPP-01A
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
Hey guys, I'm thinking about giving my laptop a little speed boost. This would be the first time I've replaced anything in a laptop to make it go faster (I've replaced an LCD before) and it looks easy enough, but is it worth the money?
I'm considering going to 8Gb DDR3 1333MHZ from 4Gb. It's going to cost about £60 for the RAM, and I'd sell the old stuff on ebay, which should make it slightly more affordable. RAM is the joint lowest windows experience index score with my HDD at 5.9, so that's why I thought I'd start there.
My computer specs are:
i-7 740qm 1.73GHz quad core processor
Nvidia 335M GPU
RAM would certainly be the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, but is it worth it? I do quite a bit of gaming, mostly Wii games with Dolphin Emu.
Cheers
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about giving my laptop a little speed boost. This would be the first time I've replaced anything in a laptop to make it go faster (I've replaced an LCD before) and it looks easy enough, but is it worth the money?
I'm considering going to 8Gb DDR3 1333MHZ from 4Gb. It's going to cost about £60 for the RAM, and I'd sell the old stuff on ebay, which should make it slightly more affordable. RAM is the joint lowest windows experience index score with my HDD at 5.9, so that's why I thought I'd start there.
My computer specs are:
i-7 740qm 1.73GHz quad core processor
Nvidia 335M GPU
RAM would certainly be the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, but is it worth it? I do quite a bit of gaming, mostly Wii games with Dolphin Emu.
Cheers
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4GB would seem like enough, but yea it should provide a performance boost. If you can, you should go with 1600Mhz instead of 1333Mhz. Btw what kind of laptop do you have? Also the more DIMMS, the more better.
8GB would provide a good performance boost.
4GB is optimal, and 8GB for anything in general is actually best. 1600Mhz would even be better.
Sorry for the two posts. I've been awake for the past 24hrs.
Also are you running your operating system in 64bit or 32bit? I figured I'd ask since your specs for a laptop seem fine regarding performance.
It's a Dell XPS L501x. 1600MHz also looks afforable, I might go for that. As I say I am new to this, is it definitely possible to put 1600 in to replace 1333? All I know about my current RAM is that it is 2x2Gb 1333MHz ddr3 204pin. Is it as simple as taking the laptop apart, out with the old, in with the new, boot it up? That's what the manual is suggesting.
Oh, and it's 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium
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It's a Dell XPS L501x. 1600MHz also looks afforable, I might go for that. As I say I am new to this, is it definitely possible to put 1600 in to replace 1333? All I know about my current RAM is that it is 2x2Gb 1333MHz ddr3 204pin. Is it as simple as taking the laptop apart, out with the old, in with the new, boot it up? That's what the manual is suggesting.
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I'll look into your laptop to see if it is compatible, which it should be. Anyhow for my dad's XPS M1730, there is a little door on the bottom of it that needs to be unscrewed so you can replace the RAM. It is easy as pie, just make sure you install it correctly and check if your motherboard supports 8GB.
Okay I've checked out your laptop. It supports up to 8GB 1333Mhz so 1600Mhz is out of the question. So upgrade to 8GB 1333Mhz.
Fantastic, thank you. How much of a performance boost do you think it'll give? I'm eventually planning to upgrade to a faster hard drive too.
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Fantastic, thank you. How much of a performance boost do you think it'll give? I'm eventually planning to upgrade to a faster hard drive too.
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It will be notable.
Here is how RAM works with laptops.
2GB is Fair
4GB is Solid
8GB would be considered best. This includes desktops that are for gaming.
So if you ever build a gaming desktop, 8GB would be more than enough for enthusiasts gamers.
Your laptop comes with a 7200RPM Hard drive which is good as it is. I do not know if it supports a 10,000RPM hard drive. If anything you should check out solid state drives also known as SSD's. They are expensive, but they provide gorgeous performance. Just make sure your laptop supports it.
Well thats laptop is even speedier than my desktop from 2007 AMD 4400(something).
Using mostly a EeePC 1005HA (Win7 starter) with 2GB of RAM.
I found that the best way to use that excess RAM was by turning of the Windows Paging file/Swap file off. Windows is forced to use the RAM the computer got.
Which is giving a terrific speed boost. Have runned the 1005HA without Swap file since December 2009.
Also make sure to have updated BIOS firmware, my Desktop was sluggish and slow after installing Win7 Home. It turned out to be the BIOS needed a firmware that worked with Win7.
So I have a SSD-Regular HDD setup for my home PC. My primary (local disk) is a 30GB SSD drive. I install all programs on my regular HDD, and I left the Windows 7 install on the 30gb SSD. Problem is, even though I don't save ANYTHING to the SSD it slowly fills up... and today it hit 0 bytes free. After some disk cleanup I was able to free up a gig deleting temp files etc... but it's still a bummer.
My question to anyone with a similar setup or some SSD know-how! What are the best steps to prevent these secret ninja files from piling up on my SSD? I'm thinking about reformatting and installing W7 on the SSD again, since everything is just saved on the other drive..
Plz/thankyou
Your SSD is severely hampered by being so full. Not only will it run slow but you are reducing it's life span as there is no free space for wear-levelling to take place.
A fresh install would be the way to go at this point, remembering that you really want to Secure Erase the drive before re-installing. The BETTER option is to buy an SSD that isn't smaller than a wart on a gnats ****. I would say 60GB is the minimum that you need for your primary drive. 120GB if you can afford it.
^What he said. Windows 7 AFAIK collects all of the DLLs in a central folder which is one of the reasons for the install to just get bigger and bigger. I'm on 36 GB of a slightly heavier used 50 GB partition than yours, but still almost no installs to the C: partition and stuff like that.
I am on a normal HD though. So yea, a bigger SSD is the easiest choice.
Thanks for the insight guys. I will be sure to invest in a larger drive... I was hoping 30GB was gonna be good enough. Guess not :/ Curse you windows
If i were buying right now i would get an Intel 80GB X-25M. As much as i love my OCZ Vertex i think they suck as a company with horrible customer support and an RMA process that would try the patience of a saint.
Intel also have the lowest returns rate for SSD of any company by a large margin. Fast, cheap and reliable. Intel ftw.
Oof, thanks for the heads up... I'm rocking a kingston (can you tell I'm a cheapass?) I guess I should actually pay for quality. :S And I was juuuuust looking at OCZ 60GB's
So most of here are geeks in the good scene of the word. We all have our mobile devices that we love and hack and tweak and mod. 98% of the time, to do what we need to do to our mobile devices, we rely on our PC. I'd be willing to bet that allot of you also have a strong attachment to your PC hardware as much as your mobile. Weather its for development, gaming, testing, surfing, working, pr0n? Use this thread to post specs and/or pics and show off all the hardware that sits between you and your modded mobile device.
Main PC (no image cause my desk is a wreak) but enjoy my desktop =]
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz CPU
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 Mobo
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
eVGA Nvidia GTX 260 896MB
3x 250GB SATA 3.0
1x 1TB SATA 3.0
LG DVD +/-RW DL
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
40" 1080P (1920x1080) HDTV (use for tv and as display)
I use this for everything. Dev, Gaming, School, Work. You'll find visual studio and Borland Delphi 7 along with the likes of MW3 and BF3. I also burn many a DVD and do most of my phone tasks here.
Mobile PCs
See attachment
Top Left, Clockwise -=> Dell Precision M6300, Dell Precision M90, Toshiba A215, HP TouchPad, Acer 5670
All configured similarly, less the Touchpad. Minor variance in CPU from 1.86GHz Core Duo to 2.4GHz C2D. All 4GB DDR2, All Win7 Ultimate (M6300 64Bit). I actually use the Acer the most as its Power/Weight ratio is awesome. It will do post modern 3d gaming with its 256MB Ati x1600 dedicated GPU. But I mostly work in Visual Studio on this. It is nice to be able to take a break and pwn some no0bs in the face and have great framerates . I love my Toshiba as a communications laptop. Its integrated web cam is top notch. And my Dell Precision's, well they are just 17" powerhouses. Mostly used for Mobile Gaming or movie viewing on their awesome large 17 inch displays (1440x900 native).
I did a search and didn't find any like posts. If I just missed it, feel free to merge this with it. If not, I look forward to see what everyone else uses when their not on their phone!
I got an Asus K53SV-SX838V notebook which has some nice specifications. In fact I use my notebook more then my phone.
I do use my notebook for playing COD MW3 and movies and tv series and sometime I like to try other operating systems like Linux, but will do that most time in vmware or live usb.
It's specifications are:
CPU: Intel Core I7 - 2679QM, 2.2Ghz with turbo boost till 3.1Ghz
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GT 540 + Intel HD 3000
RAM: 8GB
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4
Further it has an 1366x768 resolution and its 15.6 inch. Also it has one USB 3.0 port and an multitouch touchpad and HDMI and a VGA port and an standard webcam.
I'm very happy with it and it was an good deal, I bought it for € 587 excluding the SSD ofcourse at end of january , it came with an 640GB harddrive which is now my external harddrive.
I have a stock Toshiba Satellite for a laptop but my gaming rig is as follows
AMD Phenom II 1090T 6 Core
16GB Corsair Dominator GT
Crossfired 6970's
1.5 TB SATA HDD
128 GB Crucial M4 SSD
7.1 Audio
Nothing real special but it works for me.
Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Edition
8GB ram
few terabytes of hardrives
2X 8600 GTi in SLi
C2D 2.6 (I think)
Some dust in the case
On a 23" Acer
Runs Skyrim without the slightest lag on all highest settings
Also MAcbook for everyday work, also connected to the 23" and it's closed all the time with an external KB and mouse. lol.
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I have a stock Toshiba Satellite for a laptop but my gaming rig is as follows
AMD Phenom II 1090T 6 Core
16GB Corsair Dominator GT
Crossfired 6970's
1.5 TB SATA HDD
128 GB Crucial M4 SSD
7.1 Audio
Nothing real special but it works for me.
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How is the buldozer? not just for gaming but other any other cpu intensive work? Im looking at getting the AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz on newegg right now for 149.99 (it really is in my shopping cart lol), I'll hold off a few though as ive never actually been able to chat at someone who owns one. This quad i think is at an awesome price/performance ratio though.
My big main PC is the first one that I put together myself:
Intel i5-2500k (stock)
16GB G.Skill DDR3
2 overclocked XFX AMD 6970s
125GB Corsair SSD boot drive
1TB Samsung data/application drive
3.1 Sony soundbar home theater system
47" LG LCD TV.
I've still got my HP school laptop as a backup, but I haven't touched it in a looong time.
My computer sucks :-/ here I go:
AMD Sempron 140 @ 3.65GHz
AMD ECS 890GXM-A 1.0
SuperTalent 2GB (1 x 1 GB) DDR3 1600MHz
ATI Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3
1x 300GB SATA
Windows 8
My PC is getting kinda dated but still does everything I need so no point fully upgrading yet
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Mobo
AMD X2 6000+
4 x 2GB OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400
EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti FPB 1GB GDDR5
around 9TB of HDD space 1.5 installed rest hot swapped
22" Samsung 2253BW and 23" Acer X233H
I gave up on desktop, I replaced it with a Lenovo Y470p laptop. Its the first laptop I've purchased even though I built plenty of desktop in past. Never wanted get a one until they are small enough with a decent gpu and price.
This one isn't high end either, but with the AMD HD7690 which is 10% slower than a desktop HD5750/6750, its good enough to handle Skyrim in high settings. And since I only play mostly HalfLife2 mods, that's good enough for me. The laptop screen is abysmal, but I wasn't going to shell out an extra $500 to get an HP Envy 15 with the same hardware spec and any screen larger than 14".
Although I'm using it stationary as a desktop replacement connected to my 32" LCD. The main problem I'm having in term of gaming is the HDMI output signal lags by 30-40ms compared to the main screen. Add that to the 80ms in game lag (due to crappy ATT DSL) and the input lag of LCD itself, and the result is getting owned by wallhackers.
I will never get used to the keyboard and touchpad on the laptop so I'm still using my Logitech G5. I'm down on my last G5 since the other one goes choppy, I think I need to stock up more from ebay, I can't get used to any of Logitech new mice since they seem lower quality. I certainly won't be using any wireless mice or ones with glowing LED lights.
The only mod I did is to turn off the turbo boost for the Core i7 so the temperature doesn't shoot up to 90*C.
I haven't bought a new computer psu in like 10 years. It's held me over through 2 or 3 rebuilds. I haven't needed to update my cpu,Mobo,and GPU in awhile. Current build is Intel 2600k cpu,8gb ram, and AMD 7770. Storage side I have a total of 1 SSD and 4 HDDs. 1(x1TB) WD Black, 3(1x2TB/2x3TB) WD Green HDD. I know I'm looking for a minimum 500w psu. I know it's best to go single 12+v rail. What names do you guys like? My current psu is Corsair HX520. How is thier build quality these days? I saw something on them the other day that said it depends on 2hich factory produces that 0atocular Corsair psu. Is that true? What brands do you guys like? Is bronze sufficient or should I stick with gold? Budget is about $75 use.