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Hey guys,
I liked the Manilla 2d, but i got frustrated since most of the functions wont use my default apps and since most of the functions utilize a data connection which im not paying for. I tried remove the app. However, some of the logos on the start menu still show up from the old manilla 2d theme. Occasionally the vibrate icon will be the M2D version which is annoying because it has a separate layout I dont like.
I tried to remove the M2D by using the settings> system>remove programs, but it fails after trying for like 10 minutes. So what I did was I went to start>settings>system>today and I unchecked touchflo and i checked HTC Home and HTC Home Plugin, but now I still see the volume control from manilla 2d. Help me get rid of Manilla.
Side Note: Manilla 2d is a great theme, but Im only on a unlimited messaging plan so i cant make use of the weather, maps, and youtube functions. Furthermore it refuses to use my defaulted contact manager or text messaging manager.
Use a ROM without M2D.
Info is helpful...what ROM are you using?
I hate to be this guy, but i used a hard reset to get rid of my M2D and now it runs just fine. Remember to back everything up and you'll be ok. Take the jump! :]
att stock rom wm6.1
RubberDucky451 said:
I hate to be this guy, but i used a hard reset to get rid of my M2D and now it runs just fine. Remember to back everything up and you'll be ok. Take the jump! :]
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This sounds like it might be the only option at this point. Might I recommend PIM Backup to back up all of your info.
As stated in the M2D thread "IF YOU USE THESE BETA FILES EXPECT TO DO HARD RESETS EACH TIME A NEW UPDATE COMES OUT"
This would apply to uninstalling M2D as well.
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
Well, can't seem to get SecondToday to load on my Touch IT WM6.5. Tried mToday too but it can't work either.
E90 Commie said:
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
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it is but it makes the system slow.....using both interface makes the system use more resources.....i think a better option is to write a mort script to switch between interfaces
I have solved the problem with TFDetacher, SPB MS3 Toggler and AE Buttons plus. The left softkey toggles Mobile Shell and the right one toggles TF3D.
I can recommend TFDetacher to be cooked into the Valkyrie series (and other ROMs with the 6.5/Titanium and Manilla combo). TFDetacher is the easiest way to use both Manilla and Titanium on the 6.5.
E90 Commie said:
I have solved the problem with TFDetacher, SPB MS3 Toggler and AE Buttons plus. The left softkey toggles Mobile Shell and the right one toggles TF3D.
I can recommend TFDetacher to be cooked into the Valkyrie series (and other ROMs with the 6.5/Titanium and Manilla combo). TFDetacher is the easiest way to use both Manilla and Titanium on the 6.5.
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can you write how you did, i have try but i can't get it too work
This is my steps:
1. Install TFDetacher.
2. When it´s installed - open TFConfig and uncheck TouchFLO autostart.
3. Install SPB MS 3.0.1.
4. Install SPB MS Toggler.
5. Install AE Button Plus.
6. Open AE Button Plus and select LSK and handle by AEPlus, open application. Select Toggle Mobile Shell.
7. Do the same with the RSK but select Toggle TouchFLO instead.
Works perfect on my device running Valkyrie 1.8/WM 6.5 21812.
E90 Commie said:
This is my steps:
1. Install TFDetacher.
2. When it´s installed - open TFConfig and uncheck TouchFLO autostart.
3. Install SPB MS 3.0.1.
4. Install SPB MS Toggler.
5. Install AE Button Plus.
6. Open AE Button Plus and select LSK and handle by AEPlus, open application. Select Toggle Mobile Shell.
7. Do the same with the RSK but select Toggle TouchFLO instead.
Works perfect on my device running Valkyrie 1.8/WM 6.5 21812.
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gr8 work.....but can u comment on the memory usage after
1.toggling through both;
2 after only opening manila
3. after only opening MS..
PS: any luck with titanium
agent_47 said:
gr8 work.....but can u comment on the memory usage after
1.toggling through both;
2 after only opening manila
3. after only opening MS..
PS: any luck with titanium
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Titanium works fine in 1.8/21812.
With both SPB MS3 and TF3D2 running memory usage is 71% according to HTC Task Manager. Beside both I´m running Total Commander and Task Facade.
With only TF3D2, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
With SPB MS 3.0.1, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
Hibernate command in QuickMenu reduced this to 65%.
In my opinion the TFDetacher is needed if TF3D2 is cooked in. SPB MS Toggler is only needed if the user has decided to install Mobile Shell. It installs in the same folder as SPB MS - i.e cook that in isn´t a good idea because of mismatching folders.
Ergo:
*On ROMs with Titanium and TF3D2 onboard: cook TFDetacher in for easy switching.
*Don´t cook the SPB MS Toggler in - to work correctly Mobile Shell 3 needs to be present before installation.
AE Button Plus or changes in registry to bind long press on LSK or RSK to "Toggle TouchFLO" can be a good idea if TFDetacher is cooked in.
The good thing with TFDetacher is the fact it makes it possible to run TouchFLO as an application - i.e you have "two" today screens available. It can be a good idea even on 6.1 based ROMs with TF3D. Second Today isn´t needed - TFDetacher frees up the screen (and SPB MS Toggler does that too).
Edit: with CleanRAM level 1 purging the memory usage with only SPB MS3 running besides Task Facade and TC was reduced to 64%.
sjoe tht sounds good... if tht"d work without loosing speed...
any chance u can throw it in ur pot Agent?
i need to delete the mobileshell lnk in startup or???
E90 Commie said:
Titanium works fine in 1.8/21812.
With both SPB MS3 and TF3D2 running memory usage is 71% according to HTC Task Manager. Beside both I´m running Total Commander and Task Facade.
With only TF3D2, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
With SPB MS 3.0.1, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
Hibernate command in QuickMenu reduced this to 65%.
In my opinion the TFDetacher is needed if TF3D2 is cooked in. SPB MS Toggler is only needed if the user has decided to install Mobile Shell. It installs in the same folder as SPB MS - i.e cook that in isn´t a good idea because of mismatching folders.
Ergo:
*On ROMs with Titanium and TF3D2 onboard: cook TFDetacher in for easy switching.
*Don´t cook the SPB MS Toggler in - to work correctly Mobile Shell 3 needs to be present before installation.
AE Button Plus or changes in registry to bind long press on LSK or RSK to "Toggle TouchFLO" can be a good idea if TFDetacher is cooked in.
The good thing with TFDetacher is the fact it makes it possible to run TouchFLO as an application - i.e you have "two" today screens available. It can be a good idea even on 6.1 based ROMs with TF3D. Second Today isn´t needed - TFDetacher frees up the screen (and SPB MS Toggler does that too).
Edit: with CleanRAM level 1 purging the memory usage with only SPB MS3 running besides Task Facade and TC was reduced to 64%.
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I have 45 % when i toggle titanium, ms3 and tf3d
I was very satisfied with SecondToday on WM 6.1 but now I flashed to WM 6.5 and have a problem.
I use ROMeOS RAPHAEL WM 6.5 [v2.9.02](180709) the standard screen is the new "Windows Default" and on the SecondToday-Screen should be thinks like Spb Diary and other useful apps.
Here my problem: At WM 6.1 I had no problem with setting the left softkey to ST but now with WM 6.5 I can't set the left softkey on the Windows Default screen to ST.
Any suggestions?
There is an app, that making a tab for TF3D and you can see there your classic todoy screen
bremair said:
I was very satisfied with SecondToday on WM 6.1 but now I flashed to WM 6.5 and have a problem.
I use ROMeOS RAPHAEL WM 6.5 [v2.9.02](180709) the standard screen is the new "Windows Default" and on the SecondToday-Screen should be thinks like Spb Diary and other useful apps.
Here my problem: At WM 6.1 I had no problem with setting the left softkey to ST but now with WM 6.5 I can't set the left softkey on the Windows Default screen to ST.
Any suggestions?
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Use AE Button Plus and remap the softkey - select long press to do the preferred action. Works perfect.
That would be a solution but what's the name of the buttons below? The "Home" and the "Arrow"?
infazz said:
There is an app, that making a tab for TF3D and you can see there your classic todoy screen
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What app is that?
E90 Commie said:
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
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I recently Flashed to Dutty 6.5 r9
and got a little carried away
and have Touchflo detatcher
secondtoday
and ManilaToday v4.0 <-- the one that uses a manila tab
all working successfully
My take: make the TF3d home button to call 2nd today. Doesn't matter it's 6.1 or 6.5
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila]
"HomeLSKPath"="\\windows\\secondtoday.exe"
"HomeLSKText"="2nd Today"
Tried that way but wm 6.5 overwrite this settings.
Uh? Thought SecondToday doesn't work on WM6.5? Last time I tried I couldn't seem to get it to work.
Arrrgghhh I am having nothing but a complete nightmare trying to skin my Kaiser. Having spent two days at it I have had to hard reset and sprite restore my phone over 6 times and I am getting really fed up with it.
I am used a cooked ROM with Manilla 2D already on it, it's Hyperdragon IV Iolite ROM (6.1)
I follow the instructions to the letter but all that results is after applying the skin I am stuck with no TouchFLO. I tap on it to launch but nothing happens and I am stuck with a kaiser that has no TouchFLO. I haved tried loads of different themes, be it in cab form or copying the ZIP folder contents directly to the windows directory and the end result is always the same, a useless TouchFLO disabled 6.1 device. Even using M2DC to restore the default backup theme doesn't work.
Any suggestions, I am getting really fed up with this.
Hard Reset?
Or try to install another Theme to see if you can get it to work again.
Btw. You don't have Operator or Myfaves, cause the don't work.
I've hard reset it 6 times. I've had to do this as I had no way to recover the M2D even after trying to use the back up. Not sure what Operator or Myfaves are but I don't have them.
creed said:
I've hard reset it 6 times. I've had to do this as I had no way to recover the M2D even after trying to use the back up. Not sure what Operator or Myfaves are but I don't have them.
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Thats because if you try and enable either of those two plugins, it will break touchflo, also you are trying to use an Iolite manilla so you need a skin for Iolite manilla, most skins are for the standard manilla 2d and may not work if used on the Iolite manilla, this may be why manilla is breaking and refusing to start!
Cal-El said:
Thats because if you try and enable either of those two plugins, it will break touchflo, also you are trying to use an Iolite manilla so you need a skin for Iolite manilla, most skins are for the standard manilla 2d and may not work if used on the Iolite manilla, this may be why manilla is breaking and refusing to start!
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Ahh! This makes sense now! Thanks alot. Now I will try and find some Iolite manilla skins.
How do I get SMS-Chat (Vito technology) to become the default SMS application? so even if i click on a message that shows up in Manila2d it will open that app. I know there is a work around because they did it for thumbcal
still looking for a fix if anyone has one...
hi guys
You must have a registry editor!
go to:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSINBOX (original tmail.exe)
in the string "1" write "\Program File\VITO\SMS-Chat\SMSChat.exe"
the soft-reset your device
if is not working try to remove the quote both end.hope this help
I tried this already without the quotes...apparently this fix is for mobile shell 3 and not manilla 2d
I've been doing custom ROM's for years. I just got a replacement Fuze because mine had the oily rectangle under the digitizer.
Totally stock 6.1 phone with ATT 5.11.00.00 ROM.
I said...."what the heck...I'll go see if the SPB Mobile Shell has improved"
Absolutely gorgeous. I disable TF3D and run the SPB MS 3.5 and it is pure SWEETNESS!
For anyone that is afraid to flash their phone...this is a great option!
For all you diehard ROMMERS you need to give this thing a look. SPB MS 3.5 is MUCH improved from version 3.
You may find out that there is no need to use a custom ROM when you see this in operation.
Very fast and very intuitive. You can master all the features in an hour or so.
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And watch your battery drain faster then ever. I will admit it's a nice UI but it still has issues.
Wil Badger said:
And watch your battery drain faster then ever. I will admit it's a nice UI but it still has issues.
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Does it drain faster because of the software...or because the GUI is so sweet that it makes you wanna play with the phone more?
Double Post.........delete me please.......
TF3D (Manila) is draining more battery than SPB MS 3.5.
Good thing I use Titanium then isn't it.......
SPB 3.5 and Windows mobile 6.5
Does anyone have experience using a cooked ROM 6.5 and SPB 3.5. I am doing the trial on SPB and it looks great
eddie_moore said:
Does anyone have experience using a cooked ROM 6.5 and SPB 3.5. I am doing the trial on SPB and it looks great
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Yes, I'm using it with Timolol's ROM and it's working good. There are two issues however - I had to delete PositionFix shortcut from Windows/Startup in order to SPB MS display properly. Second problem is conflict between SPB MS and Rhodium dialer - if SPB MS is active, you cannot access call history and contacts from Rhodium dialer.
i used SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 until the trial period, might buy it but waiting if the fuze owners will get an official release of winmo 6.5.
I'm using SPB MobileShell 3.4 on SSK 2 ROM - works great
I haven't noticed battery drain running 3.5 on Scott Crosler's SSK from this may. Really love the new interface. Can't think of much they could change at this point being long time user of versions 2 and 3.
I really liked the 3.5.
I was using it on my WinMo 6.1 Touch Pro.
But there was a huge battery drain and every time I used the S2U locking program and Inesoft Calendar, I always got tskmgr.exe, calnot.exe, and replog.exe errors.
I gave up on it.
I may try again when there's an update, but probably not.
It would have been nice to have been able to keep it.
ninrocket said:
Does it drain faster because of the software...or because the GUI is so sweet that it makes you wanna play with the phone more?
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I wondered that myself, actually. Left the phone on my desk at 90%. Bluetooth off; wireless off; any email-pushing/pulling off. Within 30 minutes, it was at 50%. I hadn't even used it. Since I've removed it completely and using the stock HTC/Sprint thing, I'm back to being able to go all day, talking, pushing, pulling, bluetoothing, without having to charge the battery.
the new 3.5 is fabulous! Normal battery drain for me but I have been running shell for the past 3 versions. Maybe because I am using a clean (no HTC mods) and with Titanium turned off the drain is fairly low. Only 14% reduction in 9 hours of use.
Things they could add to the next version:
Ability to add more than one city to the weather app.
Slide Show option for the picture frame widget.
Skins, skins, skins...
My phone has been unplugged for nearly 24 hours. It's at 71%.
I am currently running NRG's 23016 ROM. TF3D is disabled.
The 23071 and later based 6.5 ROM's move the Start menu to the bottom. This conflicts with SPB MS 3.5's buttons on some pages. Anyone have a fix? Thanks!
I contacted SPB to see if they have a media player with album art in the works. I'll let you know the answer as soon as I get it.
samesies...
ninrocket said:
My phone has been unplugged for nearly 24 hours. It's at 71%.
I am currently running NRG's 23016 ROM. TF3D is disabled.
The 23071 and later based 6.5 ROM's move the Start menu to the bottom. This conflicts with SPB MS 3.5's buttons on some pages. Anyone have a fix? Thanks!
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running into the same thing, hope that NRG continues with the 21864 ROMS cuz i love spb... you using mskip's mods as well? very essential...
also u may want to update that signature
FIXED!!!!!!!!
Use Total Commander or File Explorer and goto your \Windows\StartUp folder.
Do you have a link called "ShowcaseSuite.lnk" ?
You can click it from Total Commander and it will give a message that says "e-Natives Suite has been Terminated".
Go back to SPB MS 3.5 and BANG!!!! Da' ***** is gone. SWEET!!!
You can delete the link from your \Windows\StartUp folder and then it won't come back(It is cooked into NRG's ROM).
Now you can use the SPB launcher. Extra SWEET!!!!!!!
I have a problem with notifications when using SPB MS3.5
When a notification pops up, lie an alarm, or new SMS, the notification popup itself is hidden, and the only way to display it is clicking on the top bar, selecting the notification icon and then it's displayed, along with the softkeys.
Anyone has a solution for this? I want the notifications to be displayed on top of the MS3.5 window...
Thanks!
MS3.5 works well with WM6.5.1
eddie_moore said:
Does anyone have experience using a cooked ROM 6.5 and SPB 3.5. I am doing the trial on SPB and it looks great
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I have used MS3.5 with RRE ROMS, Exquisite 3.5 and Timolol 23081. Works just fine.
pilgrim011 said:
Yes, I'm using it with Timolol's ROM and it's working good. There are two issues however - I had to delete PositionFix shortcut from Windows/Startup in order to SPB MS display properly. Second problem is conflict between SPB MS and Rhodium dialer - if SPB MS is active, you cannot access call history and contacts from Rhodium dialer.
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ninrocket said:
I am currently running NRG's 23016 ROM. TF3D is disabled.
The 23071 and later based 6.5 ROM's move the Start menu to the bottom. This conflicts with SPB MS 3.5's buttons on some pages. Anyone have a fix? Thanks!
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lewdog444 said:
running into the same thing
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ninrocket said:
FIXED!!!!!!!!
Use Total Commander or File Explorer and goto your \Windows\StartUp folder.
Do you have a link called "ShowcaseSuite.lnk" ?
You can click it from Total Commander and it will give a message that says "e-Natives Suite has been Terminated".
Go back to SPB MS 3.5 and BANG!!!! Da' ***** is gone. SWEET!!!
You can delete the link from your \Windows\StartUp folder and then it won't come back(It is cooked into NRG's ROM).
Now you can use the SPB launcher. Extra SWEET!!!!!!!
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The overlay of the WM6.5 taskbar on MS3.5 is probably because a version of Showcase by amarullz is installed or burned into your ROM. Deleting startup links to either PositionFix.lnk or ShowcaseSuite.lnk to terminate Showcase is a drastic measure...but I used to do it as well until I discovered the following:
If you want to prevent the WM6.5 taskbar from overlaying the MS3.5 home screen, try the following registry edit (depending upon which version of Showcase is burned into your ROM).
Look for the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\e-Natives Technology.
If you have a folder named WM65xFix, you have an early version of Showcase_X. Open the folder...you should have a key called "WindowClasses" that has "Manila;RESCO_EXPLORER_CLASS" as the text value. DELETE the text "Manila;" (and add "RESCO_REGISTRY_CLASS" separted by a semi-colon if you use Resco Registry Editor). Soft Reset. This should take care of the overlay problem.
If you have a folder named Showcase you have the latest version called "ShowcaseSuite". Open the folder...you should have a key called "SUITE_PositionFix_WinClasses" that has a text value of "Manila;RESCO_EXPLORER_CLASS". Delete the text "Manila" and the semi-colon. (Add the value for Resco Registry Editor as above if you use the program) Soft Reset. This should take care of the overlay! NOTE: If you want the "X" icon to CLOSE the program rather than minimize, change the dword value of the key "SUITE_CloseOnTap" to the value of number 1.
Finally, if you have the older version of Showcase_X burned into your ROM and want to upgrade to ShowcaseSuite, terminate Showcase_X as described by nimrocket. Reboot. Use Remove Programs (if you can) to uninstall e-Natives Showcase. Reboot. Install ShowcaseSuite. Make registry edits.
If you don't see Showcase in your uninstall list, again terminate by removing PositionFix.lnk from your startup folder. Reboot. Re-Install Showcase_X available from here (same as link above). Use Remove Programs to uninstall. Reboot. Install ShowcaseSuite. Make registry edits.
HTH!!!
[edit] Added two .cab files as attachments. If you aren't comfortable making registry edits, use ONE of the attached .cab files depending upon which version of Showcase you have installed.
Use the WM65xFix.cab if you have the older Showcase_X installed. Use Showcase.cab if you have ShowcaseSuite installed. [/edit]
Thanks for the registry info.
Personally I couldn't see why I would want another task manager running at all when SPB has a very nice one built in that is every bit as finger friendly as Showcases.
Deleting the Showcase link doesn't cause any grief and is much easier if you don't plan on using the redundant Showcase tools. But if you want Showcase then the regedit may be for you.
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Thanks for the registry info.
Personally I couldn't see why I would want another task manager running at all when SPB has a very nice one built in that is every bit as finger friendly as Showcases.
Deleting the Showcase link doesn't cause any grief and is much easier if you don't plan on using the redundant Showcase tools. But if you want Showcase then the regedit may be for you.
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You are right...and Showcase is not without a few issues (that don't affect you when you use MS3.5 and the 3D email viewer) I use Showcase because I also use Resco programs. WM6.5.1 changes the layout of the screen because of the "thinner" top bar. This causes programs such as Resco File Explorer to not display properly. I also like ShowcaseSuite because I can use it to make the "X" button terminate programs rather than minimize...so far it's the only WM6.5 tool I know that can accomplish this, but hopefully others will be developed now that WM6.5 is official!