Succesfully Removing Manilla 2D - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hey guys,
I liked the Manilla 2d, but i got frustrated since most of the functions wont use my default apps and since most of the functions utilize a data connection which im not paying for. I tried remove the app. However, some of the logos on the start menu still show up from the old manilla 2d theme. Occasionally the vibrate icon will be the M2D version which is annoying because it has a separate layout I dont like.
I tried to remove the M2D by using the settings> system>remove programs, but it fails after trying for like 10 minutes. So what I did was I went to start>settings>system>today and I unchecked touchflo and i checked HTC Home and HTC Home Plugin, but now I still see the volume control from manilla 2d. Help me get rid of Manilla.
Side Note: Manilla 2d is a great theme, but Im only on a unlimited messaging plan so i cant make use of the weather, maps, and youtube functions. Furthermore it refuses to use my defaulted contact manager or text messaging manager.

Use a ROM without M2D.

Info is helpful...what ROM are you using?

I hate to be this guy, but i used a hard reset to get rid of my M2D and now it runs just fine. Remember to back everything up and you'll be ok. Take the jump! :]

att stock rom wm6.1

RubberDucky451 said:
I hate to be this guy, but i used a hard reset to get rid of my M2D and now it runs just fine. Remember to back everything up and you'll be ok. Take the jump! :]
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This sounds like it might be the only option at this point. Might I recommend PIM Backup to back up all of your info.

As stated in the M2D thread "IF YOU USE THESE BETA FILES EXPECT TO DO HARD RESETS EACH TIME A NEW UPDATE COMES OUT"
This would apply to uninstalling M2D as well.

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MDA Compact IV - let the debranding begin

Please use this thread to post direct links to original HTC Stock ROMS for debranding of MDA Compact IV,
Unlocking software,
Original black theme and wallpaper
You tube app
Windows Live Messenger
Etc..
Please share the wealth all..
well i will be using this guide:
http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
and applying this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407572
not sure about the Messenger cab, but i'm sure you can find a version on this site!
Black Manila theme here:
You Tube app is missing and a CAB is needed desprately. Can anyone help?
no response?
So I guess you compact IV owners dont want the You Tube and Windows Live Messenger apps?
Are you loking to just de-brand?
Have you applied the balck manilla yet? any good?
Mine has just arrived to just having a play... the browser is unreal!
not sure whether to apply a new rom yet
selspiero said:
Are you loking to just de-brand?
Have you applied the balck manilla yet? any good?
Mine has just arrived to just having a play... the browser is unreal!
not sure whether to apply a new rom yet
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Applying Black Manilla works just fine. However start menu is still T Mobile white. Even beaming across the original HTC Black theme and choosing that makes no difference.
However Im looking for Windows Messenger (the latest CAB on this forum didnt work) and You Tube App.
hmm i thought the start menu was just part of the theme file...
skin
I want to thank the poster of the manila theme!
I was Looking for this theme, cause the T-mobile theme with the pink logo's was so girlish
Also for other installers, during the install every thing went fine till it restarted. I looked like the phone started correctly, i heard bleeping and it shaked, but the screen was gray with borders.
After that I thought I messed something up, and tried a soft reset, after that it worked like a charm!
ok after lots of atempts i think i have got my compact to a state where you could call it de-branded??
i have got the black manilla theme from the diamond which is allot better than the pink and white! i have got windows live with messenger installed and working nicely, and i have finally managed to get the youtube app on it aswell, so apart from that is there anything else which needs to be changed software wise??
anyone else had any success with this? i know i could just flash another rom but i really want to stay under warranty
Cheers guys
Care to Share...
How You did it... step by step.
Speaking of warranty, I’m in the same boat. I got no issues of changing the ROM as long as I can get back if I need to.
We really need a copy of the T-Mobile Stock ROM!
i would also be very interested in knowing which version of messenger you got to work and where you located it
I know i can flash a different rom but don't really want to until a copy of the original t-mobile rom is available, just in case i need to revert back for warranty purposes.
how i installed Windows Live Mobile...
Okay guys bare with me and let me know if you have any success with this.....
firstly for Windows Live Mobile, i have tried loads of different cabs to get this working, but this has seemed to work for me,
1) install "Windows Live install 1st.cab" then soft reset, once you reset you will have windows live installed but there will be no messenger this should be fine if you just want hotmail.
*****make sure you dont uninstall the 1st cab! they both need to be on at the same time to work!*****
2) install "Windows Live install 2nd.cab" and again soft reset, once you reset you will have all of windows live including messenger just as it is on the stock diamond rom same version im pretty sure!
Windows live is now good to go! over wifi it will sync flawlessly, over gprs/3g it will be hit and miss, as it has been on every other device with wm6, Windows live mobile and T-mobile, i always get my emails however it will sometimes show a sync error aswell. (let me know how you get on here because i have had this connection issue with my last couple of phones!)
i take no credit for any of these files, they are already on this forum and i thank the guys who uploaded them first time around!
Original TouchFLO....
To get the original colours back into touchFLO i used the theme which was posted earlier in this thread on the first page, this does take up about 9mb of space though! however looks far better than the pink and white!
to change the start menu picture go to Start>Settings>System>TouchFlo and de-select 'Enable Large Start menu' this will then give you what ever themes your using start menu, however it wont be as large!
craigwn said:
ok after lots of atempts i think i have got my compact to a state where you could call it de-branded??
i have got the black manilla theme from the diamond which is allot better than the pink and white! i have got windows live with messenger installed and working nicely, and i have finally managed to get the youtube app on it aswell, so apart from that is there anything else which needs to be changed software wise??
anyone else had any success with this? i know i could just flash another rom but i really want to stay under warranty
Cheers guys
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How did you get the you tube app to work?
There is a youtube VGA cab on this forum, which installs - however whenever you attempt to play a video there is an error message
Finally Youtube!
this was the most annoying one!
okay to install this...
1) Install "AdobeFlashLite.cab" this may or may not be required? however i installed it and everything works fine! maybe someone could try with out this and see if it still works.
2) install "HTC YouTube install 1st.cab" this will install the youtube app however it is a qvga version and looks rough on the awesome vga screen and everything is all over the place, however still works fine.
3) unzip the contents of "HTCYouTubeVGA install 2nd.zip" to your \Windows\ directory ensuring the files do go into the windows directory and not into another folder inside the windows directory i.e \Windows\HTCYou... you will be promted if you want to overwrite some files, you have to overwrite all of the existing 200 or so files!
4) do a soft reset for luck and you will now have the full youtube app aswell! exactly the same as on the diamond, i cant remember if i had to create the shortcut to the youtube app myself or if the cab did it, if you have to do it yourself the application is called youtube.exe and is in the \Windows\ folder!
Again all of these files have already been uploaded by others elsewhere in the forum! i have just got them all together, so a big thankyou to all of those members!
let me know your results
Cheers
I also did change the "on-pink" in the connection manager, this was on a dutch t-mobile device but it will probally also work on uk-versions. Just put these 2 files in the windows map with total commander or some other file manager.
Another thing I did was a hard reset and just before the branding kicks in a soft reset. You'll get a pretty clean phone, only some programs aren't installed like tf3d. For tf3d I downloaded the black manila from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408843&highlight=boinger66+black. Opera is also not installed so I will also try to install this from the same thread and give it a go.
Also you can remove the t-mobile connection button on the tf3d interface by using removing globe.cab from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406681
Cheers to craigwn for the windows live messenger and youtube posts - all cabs installed straight away and with a soft reboot between each one, now both apps work great!
One small thing - I installed the youtube, wlm and then the manila theme and have just realised all my contacts have disappeared. Not sure which one of these have done it (or a combination) as I didn't check in between, but will just get them back via activesync so no problem.
glacieruk said:
Cheers to craigwn for the windows live messenger and youtube posts - all cabs installed straight away and with a soft reboot between each one, now both apps work great!
One small thing - I installed the youtube, wlm and then the manila theme and have just realised all my contacts have disappeared. Not sure which one of these have done it (or a combination) as I didn't check in between, but will just get them back via activesync so no problem.
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i think this may have something to do with wlm, if you choose to sync contacts, it messes with the phones contacts aswell! just uncheck the option to sync contacts in the future.

Touchflo 3D vs SPB Mobile Shell

Hi,
I've read a lot of pros to deactivate TF3D and install Mobile Shell because of the performance, and i was hoping to hear from people theirs pros and cons and i DON'T mean "i like TF3D bla bla" but an explanation too!!
I thinks it's a lot of storage to be used, or can it be installed on the internal memory?!
TF3D lasted about 20 minutes for me, it looks great but didnt really give me what I needed, when I needed it.
I found it dreadfully slow and fairly clumsy ...yes, I know you can tweak it to the N`th degree now, but still seems to be more cosmetic than funtional. Just a thin flash skin over WM6, and it resorts back to WM6 when you have to do more in depth things with the phone.
I guess I was biased towards SPB Mobile Shell though, as I`ve used it on my last 2 phones (Tytn and Tytn II) and love the way it simplifies and speeds up using the phones. It is not just an improvement over the TF3D but also Windows Mobile. Far more user friendly!! (finger friendly)
I have the latest version on my diamond and love the ability to thumb/finger scroll through the options/section just as well as the TF3D, it`s still layed out well, although I don`t like the way they`ve done the frequently used/favourite programs bits... I liked having the start square infact I prefer the layout of the previous version (9 squares rather than the 6 squares and the messy favourites bar at top.)
It doesnt look as lovely and unified as the TF3D but I realise that you can change the theme. It can look a bit garrish with the multicoloured icons .
The now (today) screen is far more useful on SPB as you can add/remove options.. still not as customisable as real today screen (I probably haven`t found all the plugins tho ?)
I would download the trial as see what you think.
I give TF3D a big thumbs down and SPB Mobile Shell a big thumbs up
Hope this all makes some sense / is of some use, as am slightly sloshed *h*i*c* !
Where have you installed the progam files? In the internal storage or RAM (i guess it's called?!))
I installed it on the phone rather than the internal storage, seemed to be plenty of space. Never normally install to the phone area but feel (rightly or wrongly) that it helps running from phone memory ?? Still loads of room and phone flies along. Doesnt seem to as big an issue as it once was.
hi bro,
being an experience user with spb shell, can you kindly share with us with some skins that you are using?
I have the latest version of SPB Shell (though not installed at the moment as just flashed with a new ROM.
I prefer the SPB Shell as it is alot smoother and faster switching between the menus and the main today screen can be configured to give alot more info than the TF3D one.
For those that like to know the weather it gives you a breakdown of what the weather is going to be like at various times of the day rather than just now (I can look out of the window for that) and even the 5 day forecast can be viewed to see the expected weather at various times of the day.
As for skins the default ones that come with it are only different colours but having a choice of colours from scratch is better than the plain TF3D.
SPB Shell is very configurable compaired to TF3D but still not as configurable as some other Today screens unless like th eother poster said it comes in the form of other plugins.
I have it installed to normal phone memory and everythings fine. I haven't tried installing it to the internal memory but figure if I have to reinstall it if I flash a new ROM anyway I may as well make sure that it's cleared for a fresh reinstall.
Deffo one to give a try if you want something other than TF3D - smoother, more configurable, more skin options, ability to add more plugins.
I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
How about battery usage? Any difference there?
Vic5870 said:
I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
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I agree with you. But where can TF3d Themes be found?
I have found two .theme files that works and easy to set up. O2 Blue and Orange Lite. But it would be nice to get something like the White Diamond
I think its better explained this way:
SPB can house many more functions. If you need your phones apps the whole day long an need to navigate your small system every minute, TF3D is really not the thing. SPB is very good, and takes care of every single corner on your phone. Highly skinnable, and fast.
I tried it, but you know, it's too much for me.
I like a lot of apps, but I don't use em every day. So I want to fast check Email, SMS, or weather, or make a call. For those basic functions I think TF3D is the best. Just grab phone, Thumb-thingy to the right tab and off you go.
I don't need something TF3D cant do. Well, some minor things, like agenda and tasks, but I guess that'll be fixed in a few weeks
I'll vote for the Shell too: I tried Flo, really tried as it looks so good, but found it was just unworkable!
Shell is clean and simple, and fast. Also, I use a P3600i in some situations (such as when I really want to hear incoming call rings) - using Shell keeps me to a common interface.
These are the setting that I use:
TABS Home TODAY Date
Time SPB Shell
Weather Owner
Dial Tab Messaging
Calendar
Fring
SPB Menu Internet IE/Opera + Favorites
No Data
Fring
Internet Sharing
Comm Mgr
Multimedia Media Player
Camera
Pictures
Voice recorder
Album
Tools Task Mgr
File Browser
Rotate
Lock
Profiles
SPB Backup
MemMaid
App to Date
Programmes (auto)
My Menu 1Calc
TomTom
Ozi
Stock Mgr
Best Crypto
FM Radio
Settings (auto)
I run TLR v3 - clean and stable.
Unrelated to SPB Mobile Shell, my final 'make it perfect' was to get rid of the ring delay by:
Diamond Phonepad skin: HKLM -> Security -> Phone -> Skin -> Enable (set 1 to 0), then reset
It all depends on what you do with your phone. I tried SPB Mobile Shell and it worked nicely. Quite happy with it. It's faster and more user friendly compared to TF3D. The homescreen also looks nice and it has a nice feature where you can move your finger in a downward movement from the taskbar to choose between the 3 pages of the shell. Although the Now screen is not very customizable (maybe it is with correct plugins?), the other page u can change every shortcut to programs and such. It's nice, but I don't tweak my Diamond anymore as I used to. I saw the Orange Theme with TF3D and I liked it alot. The analog clock looks great. If you're new with the Diamond and ur tweaking and changing and everything, I suggest you get SPB Shell (or just disable TF3D). But TF3D still looks better (orange theme that is)..
I just need to find a white .tsk theme for wm6.1.. All I see is grey/red/purple/whatever... Goodluck with this..

Am I crazy? Has this always been there?

I thought I downloaded and installed Diamond TF3D Config program. It's the one that you can change the tabs on the home page, add and delete tabs, right?
Well, it seems it was slowing down my setup so I tried to delete it several ways and each time it's still there.
So tonight, I came home and did a hard reset. Settings - clear programs - 1234
That does a hard reset, right?
Well, it redoes everything and guess what, the Diamond TF3D Config
program is STILL there....
Am I missing something?
FWIW, I'm using Dutty's 1.4 version ROM
Thanks,
Mark
That is indeed a hard reset. It might be a part of the customizations and to get rid of that, do a soft reset right before the customizations initialize.
Try going to settings/today/items/unclick Touch flo 3D
If you haven't tried it....
Will
I used Dutty's 2.2 ROM and the programme comes pre-installed as part of Dutty's ROM it seems. Using the advice above about soft-resetting before it installs the customisations should work (?) but then you won't have any of the other awesome apps Dutty pre-loads.
Also, I can;t say i have noticed the TF3D config affecting speed (when tried on my stock ROM) especially when the Advanced Configuration tweaks are applied.
Just my thoughts

[Q] A way to use Titanium (CHome), TouchFLO 3D, & standard Today?

I have been using SecondToday in order to access my Today plugins in addition to using Rhodium Manila. Recently I discovered Manila Today Page, so I no longer need SecondToday for this. I would, however, like to use Rhodium Manila with the MTP, and somehow also use Titanium (also known as CHome), the standard Windows Mobile 6.5 interface.
I was able to do this previously using TFDetacher, however some functionality of Manila was lost (specifically, BT AVRCP). This solution would offer me the ability to use both interfaces as needed, without losing any functionality (hopefully). I have tried to simply add "Windows Default" as the only item in SecondToday, and, while it does show at startup, I can't get back to it after Manila starts (I have a video of this, but no way to post it).
Does anyone have any suggestions, or know of any other software I can use to accomplish this feat?
I would also like to know the answer to this..
I tried setting up secondToday this weekend with no luck..maybe this is a compatibility issue with wm6.5 and secondToday?
civicvx94 said:
I would also like to know the answer to this..
I tried setting up secondToday this weekend with no luck..maybe this is a compatibility issue with wm6.5 and secondToday?
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I haven't tried it much, but I pretty sure its compatibility issue between tf3d and windows default. Both of these plugins are designed to deactivate\override any other active plugin when they are chosen which doesn't make for good compatibility. I'm sure somewhere there is a way, just hasnt' been found yet that I know of.
showaco said:
I haven't tried it much, but I pretty sure its compatibility issue between tf3d and windows default. Both of these plugins are designed to deactivate\override any other active plugin when they are chosen which doesn't make for good compatibility. I'm sure somewhere there is a way, just hasnt' been found yet that I know of.
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Well, at least all my hopes and dreams aren't COMPLETELY crushed, lol.
At one point, I was actually able to use Rhodium Manila, CHome, standard Today, and SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 all at the same time. Actually, I could still do it, but I prefer the HTC Music Player (because I can use BT AVRCP w/it, and it won't become the focused window like WMP), though I like that WMP has a separate volume control.
Well, if there's a way, I'm sure someone will figure it out soon enough. It could even be me, who knows?
I have been trying to figure something like this out myself. I am currently running a stock 6.1, with MS 3.5. I had dcd's 2.27 ROM but was running into a couple problems, mainly DRM doesn't seem to like 6.5 ROMs and battery drain. While I was running 6.5, I never even ran TF3D, but instead just ran Titanium and MS 3.5. However, since I am back with 6.1, am back to running MS 3.5, and TF3d. My setup is running pretty smooth, great data connection and battery life, but I really miss Titanium. If anyone has a cab for it (just the main today screen part), or know of a way I could possibly get that to run that with 6.1, I would be more than willing to play around trying to get it all to work together.
EDIT: Oops, didn't see how old this thread was, sorry >.<

TF3D and Mobile Shell

I keep going back and forth between the two on my Imagio, but I think once we get TF3D 2.5 I'll be able to stick with HTC's software. Question is: Will the Imagio handle it well?
BTW thanks for the resource here!
me too, I have been going back in forth between the current touchflo version on the Imagio and SPB Mobile Shell.
Has anyone come up with a tweak yet for touch flo 3d 2.5 for the Imagio.
SPB MS 3.5 for me
I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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See, now, I get the whole "pretty" thing with this shell, but I found it to be just too confusing because it has a lot of redundancies. On the other hand, TouchFlo by HTC is really powerful, but it needs more "clues" to find all of its functionality. Idunno..I just wish we could get this thing hspl unlocked so that the gurus can start cooking up some new roms..
TF3D does not work for me. I need to quickly check email and delete tehm on the fly and access many parts of the phone. Why cant we load the new Sense UIon the Imagio. MS 3.5 is great but the contacts and dialer are badly broken. I cant search for contacts easily by typing parts of the name (only searches file as field) and from the dialer screen you cannot get into the details of a contact to E.G. select an alternate number to dial.
I have been trying both on my new imagio, and am currently sticking with SPBMS3.5. The main reason is that for some reason, the text messaging interface with TF3D messes up my ability to rotate to landscape when replying to a message. I am not sure why...
I have hard reset, and it works for a short period of time, because it seems to be using the standard Winmo texting interface. After receiving a message from a contact, the interface seems to switch to a custom TF3D version, and I can no longer use the landscape keyboard.
Plus I like that I can have virtually all the things I need on a sweetly configured main screen at one tap.
My two cents...
Gary
The folks over at PPCGeeks have unlocked the Imagio! And there are a number of ROMs already ready for flashing. As for TF3D and Mobile Shell, I have found no issues with TF, and with the new Cookies home tabs, its even easier for me. I tried that mobile shell, and there were too many reduntant applications, and by the time I got what I wanted set up, it was several pages between what I really needed and what I needed to go through. That, and after a couple days, my phone started to really get buggy. I finally gave up and went back to TF.
Now, that was before flashing to an Energy ROM. Things are much better now! Check out PPCGeeks HTC Imagio section, several ROMS there waiting for you!
You know I just saw those this weekend and they look very promising! Especially the MaxManilla on the horizon. I am not sure whether to go with Manilla or Cookies...Any thoughts?
As for the TF3D and texting, I did some googling and found the fix. Sorry, but I can't remember, but I think it was on PPCGeeks. Had to add some manilla reg values and change one other and voila! It works now. Still not sure if I like TF3D better than SPB, but I am giving it a shot. What I do like is that SPB can have multiple weather cities. I don't think that I like the 3D mail reader on either app.
Thanks again for the tips.
Gary

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