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Spb Mobile 2.0 vs Tf3d

I'm not really gettin used to touchflow yet and I'm checking out other options. So... Lets get down to business:
The things that bugs me in touchflow are:
1.the todayscreen not being able to show more calendarevents.
2. the sms screen, the whole layout really
3. The mediaplayer
4. The alarm, every aspect there as well
I know that there are substitute programs for most of these problems BUT as I have to go in and select the appropriate program I fail to see the advantage of Touchflow..
The things I love with Tf3d are its speed and beautiful graphics and they will be soarly missed if I would go with another shell.
Are there any other touchfriendly options?
What are the pros and cons with Spb mobile shell 2.0? Especially regarding these issues!
Yours sinceraly
Adis Hardis

Sorry but I think you're a bit lazy. Why don't you just download a trial of spb mobile shell and see for yourself?

To be fair, I think he wants opinions..
SPB Software always rates highly in my books, I used to use the Shell on my Hermes. My girlfriend used to hate it, as it restricts access to the main features of the phone unless you kill it off.
But I guess if you tweak it to how you want it, then you never need to access the back end of the phone, pretty much like the HTC one I guess.
SMS's are visible (at least the count) on the main screen, and link direct to the pocket outlook folder
Media player - There's non built in, so again it's just a link.
Urm, Alarm again is built in.. Unless you put SPB time on??
Guess its worth a try! There's plenty of support on their forums, and hundreds of themes for it

I'm no expert in these areas but can I install spb without uninstalling? (and loosing all the settings and so forth). Cause thats my main concern!
Lazy or not, thats what forums are there for in my opinion, to get input and help...
Adis Hardis
Ps
Thank you MikeSel

Yeah you can, there simply 'today' plugins so you can disable one, and enable the other.. Make an informed decision and then dump one if you like.. Or just keep both, and leave one disabled
Have fun, and give me a shout if you get stuck!

Nice, I'm on it, thanks for your help Mike!
Peace
Adis Hardis

i just recently installed SPB mobile on my diamond and i love it a lot more then TF3D. I thought TF3D was great at first, but it a shame it's not configurable even with TF3D advanced config etc installed. Only the very basic functionality is available. It does look very good though and maybe the future could hold great things for it. But for now and the near future SPB mobile is the winner for me
-it's better and more customizable
-it's got lot's of good plugins
-the latest version got guestures like touch flow
-runs smooth as silk
-great animation without slowdowns
-all of the functions are easy accessible

Tried spb 2.1 for a week, but changed back to tf3d.
For my use, tf3d its enough and mobile shell, is atm a bit slower than tf3d and i dont like the default look. And with a better looking vga skin its slower than the first versions of manila, so i stay with tf3d.

Succesfully Removing Manilla 2D

Hey guys,
I liked the Manilla 2d, but i got frustrated since most of the functions wont use my default apps and since most of the functions utilize a data connection which im not paying for. I tried remove the app. However, some of the logos on the start menu still show up from the old manilla 2d theme. Occasionally the vibrate icon will be the M2D version which is annoying because it has a separate layout I dont like.
I tried to remove the M2D by using the settings> system>remove programs, but it fails after trying for like 10 minutes. So what I did was I went to start>settings>system>today and I unchecked touchflo and i checked HTC Home and HTC Home Plugin, but now I still see the volume control from manilla 2d. Help me get rid of Manilla.
Side Note: Manilla 2d is a great theme, but Im only on a unlimited messaging plan so i cant make use of the weather, maps, and youtube functions. Furthermore it refuses to use my defaulted contact manager or text messaging manager.

Use a ROM without M2D.

Info is helpful...what ROM are you using?

I hate to be this guy, but i used a hard reset to get rid of my M2D and now it runs just fine. Remember to back everything up and you'll be ok. Take the jump! :]

att stock rom wm6.1

RubberDucky451 said:
I hate to be this guy, but i used a hard reset to get rid of my M2D and now it runs just fine. Remember to back everything up and you'll be ok. Take the jump! :]
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This sounds like it might be the only option at this point. Might I recommend PIM Backup to back up all of your info.

As stated in the M2D thread "IF YOU USE THESE BETA FILES EXPECT TO DO HARD RESETS EACH TIME A NEW UPDATE COMES OUT"
This would apply to uninstalling M2D as well.

[Q]What Do You Want In A ROM?

I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)

1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.

1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip

basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)

Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had

gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time

achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.

Bxsteez said:
Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.

Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.

I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.

Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.

Bxsteez said:
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO

I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.

Amplificator said:
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.

I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.

I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone

As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.

basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)

I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!

You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.

Custom ROM with NO Sense and NO Manila?

I know I'm gonna get slammed for even posting this but I'm hoping someone can make a recommendation for me. I've been using rom's from xda-developers for years on various devices and now have a Tilt 2. I guess I'm old fashioned because I prefer the WM5 style today screen (screenshot below) and don't like Sense, Manila, or even the default WM6.5 today screen. I'd love to use the Tilt2 roms but am not seeing any that don't include either of those.
Can somebody please recommend a solid and current rom that uses the WM5 style today screen?
Thanks very much...
Greg

just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.

dazkeirle said:
just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
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I can do that but was more looking for a rom that didn't have them there to begin with because they may get loaded even though I'm not showing them on the today screen. That's a lot of overhead if they are loaded. No big deal if I'm wrong, I can certainly disable them that way.
Thanks for the advice...

mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4

agent_47 said:
mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
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Are you recommending the Firestorm ROM or one version of it?

You probably can cook your own from the official ROMs. Da_G gives out ROMs without manila, but it does have titanium in it.

I'm by no means an expert, but I would guess that titanium would be more difficult to remove from an OS build, as it comes as part of WinMo. Manila/Sense comes from HTC, so it is probably easier to break off from the base OS. I'm betting that if you disable Titanium as mentioned above, you'll remove whatever overhead there is.
Also, as mentioned above, Da_G's ROM is sans manila... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577594 ... it appears to be made specifically for the Tilt 2, judging by the title of the thread.

Hi All,
I too am looking you for this, I can assure you I've flashed almost every rom out there... Da_G is indeed a clean one but I hate the new builds with the big buttons at the bottom...
@ Agent_47, is the rom you propose has this as well I suppose...
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[ROM][Legacy|Offline][WWE]Jackos Oldschool WM6.1 21048 + TF3D2.1

Nothing here.

Nothing here.

Nothing here.

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Nothing here.

Oh man.. you beat me. Will try a little later. Gotta make a backup 1st.

I have less work then you ;D As my ROM is nearly finished.

You think its possible to get the 6.5 Smooth Scrolling into 6.1? Thats what my main goal is at this point.

I think that the Touch FLO does the job well. Doesn't it?

Finally I finished this ROM. Download in #1 post.

Any feedback?

just a bit surprised that any one wants to use winmo 6.1.
For me its like using win 3.x instead of win7- just my point of view ;p
any way congrats on this one.

I'll probably flash this on to my phone tonight. I'm using the AT&T Tilt 2, and the problem I had with the stock ROM was that Touch Flo 3D was sluggish and music on both the HTC Audio Manager and MicroFi Nitrogen would skip and generally become unplayable if the phone reception was interrupted (on a subway, for example).
I flashed my phone to the Deep Shining ROM last night, which is cool, but still kinda slow, plus, PocketScrobbler keeps giving me a time server mismatch error which prevents me from recording my plays onto last.fm, which is really important for me. Finally, the DeepShining ROM uses a different physical keyboard layout than the one of the AT&T phones, so some of the keys don't work correctly (@ key becomes 1, for example). I never had the audio problems or last.fm problems on my LG Incite phone (running 6.1 and later, a cooked 6.5 ROM), so I'd like to give this a try.
What functionality will I lose with 6.1? Will Microsoft MyPhone and the Winmo app store still work? How about touchscreen responsiveness? That's really all I care about. Most other third party apps I use are 6.1 compatible.

aniym said:
What functionality will I lose with 6.1? Will Microsoft MyPhone and the Winmo app store still work? How about touchscreen responsiveness? That's really all I care about. Most other third party apps I use are 6.1 compatible.
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You can download MyPhone app cab from http://www.microsoft.com/myphone. Works on WM6.1.
The app store is to download somewhere in microsoft site too, dunno where as I personally don't use it.

I'l flash this weekend and hopefully give you feedback. Hopefullt the speed will be better in fpsce wihout all the 6.5 eyecandy.

Remember to turn off the GfxBoost before running this emulator. It may slow it down.
Aha, I messed something up with the drivers while fixing my remote control problem, so i'll upload a fixed version (this one is a bit unstable, my fault) xD

BobbyManifesto said:
just a bit surprised that any one wants to use winmo 6.1.
For me its like using win 3.x instead of win7- just my point of view ;p
any way congrats on this one.
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Pozdrowienia z Wrocławia
Hello,
I do use WM6.1. becouse the WM6.5 is too heavy on resources. Even if you turn the ResProxy on dynamic, and disable the push internet the memory usage is high. After some days of use the TP2 slows down and you can't run more then 2 programs or whatever. That's why I switched back. Ach, and this Honeycomb is driving me crazy X_x

aniym said:
What functionality will I lose with 6.1? Will Microsoft MyPhone and the Winmo app store still work? How about touchscreen responsiveness? That's really all I care about. Most other third party apps I use are 6.1 compatible.
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I posted a MyPhone cab at the #1 post. Also uploaded a fixed version of the ROM.

This rom is great. Was a bit worried at first because I was getting no service, but then realised that it is set to airplane mode on start up. But everything is running smooth, and boy oh boy is it quick. No lag what so ever, except every now and then as soon as you have come out of an application and then use the slider, but even then, its only for a microsecond.
I thought I was going to miss W6.5, BUT, in all honesty, i think I have become so used to it, and its sluggish behaviour, that now using 6.1 again has no issues. I prefer the start menu to the honey comb, and my fingers and thumb are just the right size for the buttons, so I think I might actually leave it with 6.1. Very nice hybrid rom Jacko. Thank you for this. I am VERY pleased with it.

using it for just 1 hour now but have to say what a relief smooth fast and reliable thanks 6.1 rocks for the rodium