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For the lucky people who got their Kaisers already, would you please report your experience regarding the built-in GPS please specially the initial cold fix as it was very slow with the Trinity P3600
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
Agreed; and, at least in Google Maps, the position is more accurate than the Ameo.
For batterie Life
Hello,
Can you post hte comment of batterie life when you use the GPS.
For example: the phone
the telephone is load completely (100% full batterie) and when you use 1 hour of gps
how much battery it remains?
Thanks.
Private69.
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
Wiz said:
Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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sorry for a stupid question, do u use tomtom 6 to check the number of satellites? i cant get my gps to start working at all.
Wiz said:
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
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Am running 6.030 now!
Don't ask me how or why but it's working fine.
Joe
I now verified that on TT6.030 you have to use "Other NMEA GPS/4800Bd/Com 4: and on TT6.032 you can stay with "Internal GPS"
In any case, TT6.032 with "Internal GPS" the fix is aqcuired a lot faster than on TT6.030
TT6.032 is supplied with the TyTNN II on the accompanying CDRom
(TT6.032 incidentally does not allow itself to be installed on any other device, the installer prevents that, but after installation on the TyTN II, the directory can be copied to for instance the x7500 to replace the old installation there, and it will work fine. My first impression is that also on the x7500 with TT6.032 the fix is faster, but I still need to run the "dinner table test" )
its working fine now after i installed the version on the cd. thanks. my MapKing chinese version also working, GREAT!
When you use tt6.32 from the CD, can you use any tt6 map? or is it locked to 1 map only?
Can you have multiple maps with the tt6.32 from the CD?
Can you confirm that the version supplied with TyTn II i.e., TomTom 6.0.32, is a FULL version ? Licences? or is it a taster and you have to pay to register it as a full version? If it is full, does it come with Great Britain Maps (full) or you have to download them? In case of download, is it free?
Thanks
The CD version of TT 6.032 that comes with the Kaiser is as full as an update one would dowload from TomTom. There is no code. There are no maps either. One can download one area map (f.i. London) for free, but no country or continent maps are added. Those will have to be purchased separately.
If you install it on top of an already installed and registered TT6.0x0, it will not ask for a new code. Any old registration will remain valid.
On another note, sitting side by side in my car, I noticed that the x7500's GPS reception was a lot more consistent then the TyTNN II's. The TyTN II may acquire its fix a lot faster, but on the whole, the x7500's reception is better (even though my "dinner table test" would lead to believe otherwise) and more consistent.
While my x7500 had a permanent reception of 9-10 satellites (albeit with shorter bars) the TyTN II was jumping up and down between 3 and 7 satellites.
I currently use my Hermes in an 'in car' holder, with a bluetooth GPS reciever face up in the window. One thing that I would like to know, is that if I was to get a Kaiser and put it into my car holder, surely the orientation of the GPS reciever inside the Kaiser would be 'end on' to the sky, and the satelites.
This must affect performance?
I got mine this morning. Took me quite a while to get GPS working -- had to do a hard reset. It's now working with Route 66, which I used to use on my Wizard.
GPS data seems a bit bursty -- when I was viewing it with GPSViewer, I'd get a bunch of NMEA strings, then nothing for several seconds, then another burst.
Hum..seems to be same issue than Paul from Modaco :
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly." ?
Seems that HTC did not fix it in the final ROM.
Do you know if HTC is aware of this issue and plan to fix it ?
Thanks
don't know if i've encountered the bug but here's my situation: i cannot get the GPS Hardware Port (or COM) settings to "stick" after changing them. for example i can change GPS Program Port and it will stick but changing the Hardware Port and clicking OK has no impact. if i reopen the GPS settings, the Hardware Port shows "(NONE)". and this is after 4 hard resets. funny thing is that is worked when i initially set up my device, then all of a sudden, TT6 was reporting "No GPS Device"... it may be time to pack it up and return it for a replacement... any suggestions would be appreciated.
Update: Followed Paul's (on Modaco) suggestion to leave the default settings and now GPS is working.
Which Navigation programs work in landscape mode???
for those of you with a Tytn II, are you able to modify the GPS Hardware COM port from one setting to another? the fact that mine says "(NONE)" is leading me to believe i have a hardware defective unit. thanks.
Kaiser and mapking 2007
ive tried mapking 07 on kaiser and it doesnt work. It juz cannot pinpoint the location that I am at. I wonder if its the software problem??
I installed TOM-TOM from the HTC CD and it has worked with out problems, even installed US MAPS from another Tom-Tom CD I have from the original version. Only problem so far, once I was using it and received an SMS message and it locked up. Had to restart. Receiving email is fine but the SMS message freaked it out.
I have just installed TomTom 6 on my HW6510. I can get the sound working by renaming the file BtCoreIf.dll. However I can't select the internal GPS receiver by following the instructions on a previous thread.
I deleted the file Navigator (under the directory navigator) - on restarting TomTom it just asks me for preferences (language, left / right handed etc..) it does not give me any options for selecting the receiver.
I must be missing something but don't know what.
Any help would be appreciated.
Dump tomtom
had loads of never ending issues with tomtom on my 6515. between map errors , no sound, hig system requirements and plain bad programming i eventually followed a complaint thread at pda4x.com and decided to go with IGO. never looked back, even dumped tomtom off my wifes pda and installed IGO for her as well.
Possibly its just the Australia maps that are that bad on tomtom but i find IGO to be a far superior product with greater ease of use and better routing. Easier to install, and NO ISSUES!!!
I am afraid i cant help you. tomtom runs buggy on my tornado and on my old blue angel when i had it , it worked ok, but slow, i got it running perfectly with the 6515 for about two weeks, after which it started loosing the gps.. (ie: had to find gps hardware every time i started tomtom). But note, when it was running it ws sluggish (possibly sd issues).I reiterate what i said in the last post. dump tomtom. on this device igo 2007+ runs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, much faster response and no bugs. Personally i find the routing to be better anyhow.
PS. Garmin XT runs fantastically. installed since my last post. if one was to install a cracked version, which of course one would not do, i would have to say the process was horribly complicated . But worth it. garmin has to date given me the best drive, plus integration of the garmin desktop map bundles available make it a win win
if you need help with the garmin install for integrated gps units pm me!
Thanks for the response - I will probably change to iGO. Before I do, one point to clarify, you state "after which it started loosing the gps.. (ie: had to find gps hardware every time i started tomtom)".
Was the finding of the GPS hardware an automatic action once TomTom started or was this something you had to force?
nope random, seemed to be tied to the autoupdate feature of the quickgps software on the 6515. if gprs was not connected then somehow it would not go over to old manual sattelite fix and just hung in limbo. if gprs is on or quickgps is in an "updated" state it seemed fine. the quickfix was to go into tomtom gps settings and "refind" the gps each time. damn annoying.
note here.. both tom tom and igo seemed to "lose focus" because of the quickgps app. basically you tap tomtom navigator shortcut.. tomtom boots, but then quickgps kicks in and shifts focus from tomtom and never gives it back until you tap the screen. in the case of IGO this was worse because if you tapped the [backarrow] button on the menu it would tap the windows key instead and the only way to fix that is to actualy start an app on the start bar drop down then kil it and "focus" would return to Igo. Once again only an issue if the quickgps software is not up to date. when i say update i mean that its downloaded the latest sattelite position files, not the actual program version update. I did update the version from ver 1.3 to ver 1.6 did not fix this issue
best of luck
PS I got a p3600i the other day.. lovely phone but sucks butt as a gps (very slow sattelite fix) compared to the 6515 running igo so my 6515 still lives in my car
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nope random, seemed to be tied to the autoupdate feature of the quickgps software on the 6515. if gprs was not connected then somehow it would not go over to old manual sattelite fix and just hung in limbo. if gprs is on or quickgps is in an "updated" state it seemed fine. the quickfix was to go into tomtom gps settings and "refind" the gps each time. damn annoying.
note here.. both tom tom and igo seemed to "lose focus" because of the quickgps app. basically you tap tomtom navigator shortcut.. tomtom boots, but then quickgps kicks in and shifts focus from tomtom and never gives it back until you tap the screen. in the case of IGO this was worse because if you tapped the [backarrow] button on the menu it would tap the windows key instead and the only way to fix that is to actualy start an app on the start bar drop down then kil it and "focus" would return to Igo. Once again only an issue if the quickgps software is not up to date. when i say update i mean that its downloaded the latest sattelite position files, not the actual program version update. I did update the version from ver 1.3 to ver 1.6 did not fix this issue
best of luck
PS I got a p3600i the other day.. lovely phone but sucks butt as a gps (very slow sattelite fix) compared to the 6515 running igo so my 6515 still lives in my car
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Not bad. Good use of your old phone.
Hi,
I've just got my HTC Touch Diamond, and I can't get it to find ANY satellites in either Google Maps or TomTom Navigator 6. It has worked on a couple of occasions - both programs have been able to locate satellites, but only once or twice, and only after about 30-40 minutes searching.
I've got a Touch Cruise as well, and the one thing that always worked very well on it is the GPS, particularly with TomTom. Within a few seconds, the Cruise ALWAYS finds at least a couple of satellites, even indoors. The Diamond never seems to be able to find any, even when I stood on top of a hill in open ground for 45 minutes yesterday!
I'm guessing it's a configuration problem or conflict of some kind, given the fact that it HAS found 4-8 satellites a couple of times. The GPS settings in Windows are precisely the same as on my Cruise (COM4 and 4800 baud), the QuickGPS is up-to date, and Assisted GPS is active according to Advanced Config.
One thing I did notice is that TomTom Navigator 6.03 doesn't give me the option to select 'Built-In GPS Reciever' on the Diamond (my Cruise TomTom is set to 'Built-In GPS Reciever). I have to select 'Other NMEA GPS Receiver' and set 4800 baud and COM4. It DOES seem to find the GPS device, but it doesn't find any satellites (except once or twice). I thought this might be the source of the problem, until I tried Google Maps and found that that couldn't find any satellites either. Running the Cruise and Diamond side-by-side, the Cruise finds a good number of satellites in just a few seconds, whereas the Diamond is still searching for its first after an hour!
Has anyone else had this problem on the Diamond, or with WM 6.1? Does anyone have any clue how I might be able to resolve it? Right now, I'm feeling that I've been suckered into buying yet another HTC device that simply doesn't work properly. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob.
P.S. I can't get SRS WOW to work on the Diamond either. All sound output just disappears completely, and when I launch the SRS WOW application it says that no driver is installed. No amount of soft-resetting has resolved it, and in the end I had to uninstall SRS to get my system sound back. Does anybody know how I can get SRS WOW onto the Touch Diamond?
HTC Touch Diamond:
ROM: 1.37.405.1 WWE (10/06/2008)
Radio: 1.00.25.03
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09H
doesn't the diamond have tomtom 7 built in or something? try the tomtom 7 cab floating around if you don't have it.
Why not post this in the diamond forum.
Or, even better, read the FAQ, search like it says, then get here http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...d+gps&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Rory
YEAH THE GPS ON DIAMOND DON't WORK!!
Yeah, I was so excited buying my diamond.. I always keep accessories brand new so incase I resell for any reason..so the first time I charged it up w/ a usb cord and it died in a couple of hours. I thought it needed to be charged from its own charger. So I took out the charger that came w/ it, charged it fully and it died again in 3-4 hours of using it. I was super angry. So, finally I am lookin around for the gps ( navigation ) software, only to soon realize that there is none. So, I put in the application cd that comes w/ the phone to find out that there isnt any apps on it. Anyway I install an old version of google maps on the phone that I used w/ my palm treo and realized it only picked me up w/ in 1100 meters of where I was at. I thought it was the old google and the new one would of had better gps locationing, but now that I read your blog and find out that this phone really sucks for real, I am super angry!! I just paid $799 for this crap! I should of stayed w/ my big e90. I even registered a name on this site just to tell you I agree, I will keep bugging HTC until they send me something new and fix it. They can atleast send me that cool dock they have on their website. And how did u get the tom tom for it?????????? Koda
Works with Tomtom 6
The GPS on my diamond works with Tomtom 6. Select "Other NMEA GPS receiver", Baud rate 4800, Com4. It even gets GPS signal inside my apartment, better than my stand alone GPS.
Edit: Just tested with google maps, GPS works well.
Htc Touch Diamond Gps
ISN' THe phone suppose to have built in GPS? As in the NOkia e and N series?
Gps Does Work
I Did Not Have Gps Selected In Pll Up Menu
I finally got it working
I've been having the exact same problem with Tom Tom 7. It would either say "No GPS device!" or it would have terrible signal so I couldn't get a lock. The solution was to Turn off assisted GPS and reset the diamond. Now i get a lock in 10 to 15 seconds when indoors!
And on a personal note, I just wanna say a HUGE thanks to everyone who posts on this forum and the guys who run this (even the guys posting problems and not solutions) it's been a huge help (and good reading) ever since i stubled onto this site.
Thanks, Aaron
HI,
were can I Turn off assisted GPS?
In TomTom 7 do you use internal GPS antenna? Or NMEA?
Guys,i have tried every single way on this page to get a GPS signle on my HTC Diamond but it always says "NO GPS Device" on Tomtom 7 or "No GPS reciever" on Google Maps, ...etc.
And there is no QuickGPS utility or Assisted GPS in my setting,programs, or setup CDs. There is only the External GPS on the Settings-System.
I am afraid that the GPS is actually closed or disabled somehow.
Please if someone has found a solution or knows how to unlock the headset's GPS, post a reply.
I really like tha phone but feel like a sucker because of the GPS thing.
same problem no gps
Have the same problem - baut i have the quick gps program - tried everything but not even after 30 minutes it finds a satelite
Mine never gets a signal inside, but outside it seems fine. Try something like this an go stand outside for a bit
I'm in the same boat as you Europeart.
And it's very frustrating!!!!!
Have a T-Mobile Compact IV with the Tomtom 7 package I found on this forum. I didn't get any voices but after downloading and installing the free map it can't find the internal GPS. I thought this rip was for the diamond, so it should work exactly the same!?
Added to the Google Maps will only triangulate my nearabout position with the use of cell phone towers. I can't find anything to play with the GPS and I've never managed to pick up any satellites even with that little app that downloads their positions.
Has anyone figured this one out?
quickgps
after trying everything I tried to make a hard reset thrue the menu (delete memory - en español borrar memoria) - pero me ha borrado la memoria incorporada (4GB) y no la memoria del movil ni un hard reset. With volume down - enter (round button) and soft reset with the pen (red button in penhole) pressing some seconds until you see a white display I got it - but I had to install everything - contacts, too.
But now it works - first time took 2-3 minutes, second time only 3 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!
great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope it don't change again - somebody knows?
thanks everybody for help inhere
Markus, a german from spain
More than one Navigation software!!!
Hi,
I had troubles with HTC Diamond GPS where I had to Hard Reset the phone to get the GPS working.
There is a suspicion on GPS problems with HTC Diamond!!
I have 2 navigation software, TomTom 7 and IGO, and of course the built-in Google Map. However, earlier when I had problems, I used to open tomtom try it, close the problem, and open IGO, play with it and close it.
The GPS then stopped working. I hard-reset the phone, and installed again both software but used only one, IGO and opened Google Maps but didn't use the GPS.
However, today, I opened Google Maps, used GPS and closed it. Now I am trying to open IGO and use the GPS but stopped working. Having the problem again.
Can anybody please confirm my suspicion on the problem which is that you cannot use more than one navigation program on HTC Diamond as somehow it hangs on the internal GPS and maybe blocks it?
Did anybody try it??
Following
Or maybe only between IGO 8 and TomTom 7 when the GPS hangs!
RH Photography said:
Hi,
I've just got my HTC Touch Diamond, and I can't get it to find ANY satellites in either Google Maps or TomTom Navigator 6. It has worked on a couple of occasions - both programs have been able to locate satellites, but only once or twice, and only after about 30-40 minutes searching.
I've got a Touch Cruise as well, and the one thing that always worked very well on it is the GPS, particularly with TomTom. Within a few seconds, the Cruise ALWAYS finds at least a couple of satellites, even indoors. The Diamond never seems to be able to find any, even when I stood on top of a hill in open ground for 45 minutes yesterday!
I'm guessing it's a configuration problem or conflict of some kind, given the fact that it HAS found 4-8 satellites a couple of times. The GPS settings in Windows are precisely the same as on my Cruise (COM4 and 4800 baud), the QuickGPS is up-to date, and Assisted GPS is active according to Advanced Config.
One thing I did notice is that TomTom Navigator 6.03 doesn't give me the option to select 'Built-In GPS Reciever' on the Diamond (my Cruise TomTom is set to 'Built-In GPS Reciever). I have to select 'Other NMEA GPS Receiver' and set 4800 baud and COM4. It DOES seem to find the GPS device, but it doesn't find any satellites (except once or twice). I thought this might be the source of the problem, until I tried Google Maps and found that that couldn't find any satellites either. Running the Cruise and Diamond side-by-side, the Cruise finds a good number of satellites in just a few seconds, whereas the Diamond is still searching for its first after an hour!
Has anyone else had this problem on the Diamond, or with WM 6.1? Does anyone have any clue how I might be able to resolve it? Right now, I'm feeling that I've been suckered into buying yet another HTC device that simply doesn't work properly. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob.
P.S. I can't get SRS WOW to work on the Diamond either. All sound output just disappears completely, and when I launch the SRS WOW application it says that no driver is installed. No amount of soft-resetting has resolved it, and in the end I had to uninstall SRS to get my system sound back. Does anybody know how I can get SRS WOW onto the Touch Diamond?
HTC Touch Diamond:
ROM: 1.37.405.1 WWE (10/06/2008)
Radio: 1.00.25.03
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09H
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Hi,
I've just bought an HTC TD too, being the impatient, rather than the academic, type I registered with TomTom and went straight to their support page (shortest distance between two points etc...). There you will find the instructions to configure TomTom/Diamond GPS settings 'Configuring the built-in GPS receiver on your HTC device..'
It works.
I see that, if you haven't done so yet, you need to go to the HTC site and update to the latest ROM too - gives you quad band and a speedup. You have to register there too!
NoData is a useful program.
HTC Touch Diamond
WM 6.1
ROM 1.93.405.1 WWE 07/17/08
Radio version: 1.00.25.05
Protocol version: 52.29.25.12W
TomTom7 (free with 1 city map)
Hope this helped.
I had the same problem...
A-GPS on, with TomTom 7: no fix. When I turned A-GPS off everything was fine.
I would like to know wether A-GPS should be supported by the nav-software in order to work, or that A-GPS isn't well implemented in the Touch Diamond.
Does anybody have a clue about that?
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I got this from another forum:
it will work if you set the baud rate in TT to 2400. Otherwise turn agps off and it works at the regular setting. Haven't really notices a difference in performance one way or another.
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I tried this, but it didn't work for me (even other baud rates)...
Hi All!
I have install IGo8 on my diamond. It’s OK. GPS Device founded. But it can’t receive information from satellites. Visual GPS program show me 15 satellites in view but anyone in use. Why? What I should do?
I did HR. Was at the street. Get off battery. But nothing.
Help me please!
RUU_Signed_1_93OliNex_HSPL_UnsignedEdition
Diamond_ASerg.9_RUS
geksone said:
Hi All!
I have install IGo8 on my diamond. It’s OK. GPS Device founded. But it can’t receive information from satellites. Visual GPS program show me 15 satellites in view but anyone in use. Why? What I should do?
I did HR. Was at the street. Get off battery. But nothing.
Help me please!
RUU_Signed_1_93OliNex_HSPL_UnsignedEdition
Diamond_ASerg.9_RUS
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one more time change roms, all ok
Can someone please help me?
I have tried these programs:
Tomtom 6
Tomtom 7
GPSdash
BeeLineGPS
WMMiniGPS
GPS tuner
Google maps
I'm using the latest TLR ROM. My GPS setting are default. Com4 Baud rate: 4800.
Here's the problem. The programs seem to find the receiver and seem to find the satellites. (10-15). But I can get absolutely no signal at all. Indoors or outdoors.
I'm getting quite desperate
Have you used any of the tweaks for GPS? I ask as I did but my signal kept dropping - so I turned the tweak off and now it is fine.
I would also suggest using the QuickGPS application to get the Satellite information quicker
I've tried disabling agps. Didn't help. And yes I have used QuickGPS... but no luck.
Any suggestions? : [
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Was it the first try? When I tried first it was 6-8 minutes. Where do you try? In the outdoor?
Have you ever used it?
TB
Do you have correct setting "GPS is managed automatically" ?
When I set to GPS is managed manually, I could not found any way to power on builtin GPS. You have to check box "GPS is managed automatically". I think, it may be point of your problem
I had the exact same issue dude... TomTom 6 didn't work so I installed TomTOm 7... still no signal... even with QuickGPS ran...
Google Maps didn't work either....
I'm not sure what I did in the end... took out the battery, set GPS to 'let windows manage automatically' and ran Quick GPS again.. then run TomTOm 7, go to the 'GPS Status' screen which shows the sat signal charts and stand in a wide open area for 5 mins.. ever since then it has worked fine
all the best.
btw you have to make sure your system date and time are accurate coz otherwise it'll be searching for Sats with a wrong reference to the Sat almanac..
Yes, it's set to manage automatically. I've been trying to get a signal by the window, I left the device just sitting there for more than a half hour and still nothing. I guess I'll have to try longer while being outdoors. Hope it helps... but thanks for your help.
I did that too and it didn't work for me. You have to be outside for the 1st time GPS fix and make sure you run QuickGPS before that. Ohh yeah use TomTom 7 to detect the signal... I find that the most reliable somehow... and be sure it's configured to use the built-in GPS receiver...
I know it feels odd... I nearly sent my unit back for warranty because I was very convinced that the patch antenna was somehow disconnected from the chip. lol.
I had the same issue at one point, due to my fiddling and inadequate hacking attempts!
see if you can track down the HTC GPS tool (it's here on XDA somewhere, but i can't find a link at the mo) and run that.
Chipset should be set to Q7200 (yes i know its actually a 7201A but it works the same) and com port to com 4.
Tap the open port button and you should see the GOS info scrolling through the grey window in the program.
If you see nothing, check the external GPS settings
program tab should be com 4
hardware tab should be non and 4800
last tab should be ticked.
if you still get no GPS info scrolling through the gps tool, then it seems you have the same problem i did. Sadly, i had to hard reset it to get it working again, but it has been perfect ever since.
FYI, this started happening once i had turned aGPS on, and even turning it off did not work for me, so if you have to hard reset, i wouldn't bother ever turning the aGPS on again.
where's the option to turn aGPS on/off?
I just remembered how I resolved my issue... I put a SIM card in I had previously been trying to use it with WiFi (to update QuickGPS) but once I had a SIM in there, the GPS worked. Could it be because I'm now using aGPS? hmm...
you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
rhedgehog said:
you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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I also kept lossing the GPS signal with this on every few seconds. So I turned it off for good
did you maybe install voip on your diamond? If so that's your problem there. Hard reset you diamond don't install voip en there you go.
It worked! Thank you all.... I had to sit for half an hour in direct sunlight but it was well worth it... I'm new to gps... do you have to do this with every new gps receiver or is this just another great feature from HTC?
I'm, having the same probelm here.
I'm on my second diamond as the first one (a HK version) had a fault with the internal speeker. On the First phone the internal GPS worked fine with both TOMTOM 6 and Google maps. The initial setup only took about 30 secs.
With the new phone (UK spec) I have tried TT7, TT6 and Google maps. I have also run quiick GPS, hard reset and enabling and disabling assisted GPS using the advanced config tool.
Is there anything else I should try or is this likely to be another hardware issue?
Solution To Gps Problem
if you installed VOIP you should hard reset...gps dead...:-( no other solution.
Help! My Diamond GPS reception is MUCH worse than on my Touch Cruise
Hi,
I've just got a Touch Diamond, and the GPS reception is absolutely appalling. I have hard-reset twice, after which I've done nothing except download a QuickGPS update, but still the signal strength and its ability to connect to satellites is completely inconsistent and unreliable, even outdoors. I CAN get a good signal occasionally, but it's very rare. Most often I get no GPS signals whatsoever, or else I get just a couple of weak greyed-out signal bars in TomTom.
I can lay my Diamond down next to my Touch Cruise (both have identical TomTom 6 software loaded from the same CAB), and the Cruise always launches the app faster, finds the GPS device faster, AND finds adequate satellites faster. The Touch Cruise has a lot of problems, but the one thing it has always been very good at is GPS, and it has NEVER failed to find adequate satellites in TomTom 6, even indoors. It always takes well under a minute to do so, too. It's surely not unreasonable to expect at least the same level of performance from the next generation of device. Why should the Diamond's GPS performance be demonstrably so much worse?!!
Nine times out of ten, my Touch Diamond will simply sit there for an hour or more with the TomTom status bar reading 'Waiting for valid GPS signal...". Quite often when I open the GPS configuration option in TT6, it shows absolutely NO SHRED of a GPS signal whatsoever, even outdoors. (My Diamond and my Cruise have identical GPS settings in both Windows and TomTom, by the way).
The annoying thing is that the Diamond's GPS HAS worked on a couple of rare occasions, and the signal strength has been at least as good as on my Touch Cruise. The Diamond is much worse at holding the signal however, and is totally and utterly unreliable for navigation. It certainly isn't the 'Ultra-sensitive GPS' that HTC's marketing promised - it's nowhere near as good as the GPS on the Cruise, which is the previous generation! The Diamond's GPS DOES work well on very rare occasions - it's just that 95 times out of 100, I'm not getting anything at all. This makes me wonder if it isn't a WM 6.1 compatibility problem or a conflict of some kind. It's almost as if Windows is having difficulty activating/waking the GPS fully. When (and if) it finally gets going, reception is actually very good.
I have also downloaded the HTC GPS Tool as someone here suggested, and it reveals the same results as TomTom - I usually get either no satellites at all, or I get two or three red satellite status bars and a message saying 'Fix not available'. It ALWAYS shows a data stream coming from COM4 though, so there doesn't seem to be any problem actually finding the GPS device. On the rare occasions when I have got a usable GPS signal, the HTC Tool then shows two or three red status bars and three or four green ones as well. During those rare periods, Google Maps can also find anything from three to ten satellites, even indoors. However, the next few times I try the Diamond's GPS, nothing will happen at all - it's suddenly as if all the satellites have fallen out of the sky.
By the way, would QuickGPS make ANY difference on the Diamond? As other have pointed out, aGPS is disabled on the Diamond by default. Aren't QuickGPS and aGPS the same thing? I don't know. But if so, surely the QuickGPS data is useless on the Diamond?
Does anyone have ANY idea how to make GPS on the Diamond work as well as it does on the Touch Cruise? Does anyone know why it doesn't already? Has anyone else done a direct comparison between the Diamond and another HTC device using the same GPS software?
I really like the Diamond, but it's incredibly frustrating that the GPS is unreliable to the point of being unusable. At the moment, I'm having to carry the Cruise for GPS navigation and the Diamond for everything else! Certainly not what I paid for. It should do this stuff straight out of the box. Since it doesn't, I can only assume my device is faulty so if I can't get it fixed by the weekend, I'm returning it for a replacement.
Thanks,
Rob.
P.S. Sorry for such a long post, but I needed to vent.
Hi there, I'm having the same problem as RH Photography.
All the programs are trying to communicate, but no fix at all. Once I got a fix, but only 4 sattelites, when in my car GPS BT had fixed to 9!
Will try hard reset and install HTC GPS tool an try to fix
I have been using TomTom7 on my diamond for almost a year. First several months it was working fine, just some lags or freezes on roundabouts, which was not a big issue.
Then it started doing this strange behaviour at some occasions: I start TomTom, it finds satellites fairly quickly, I start driving, all fine. Then after some distance it loses coordinates (you can see the blue arrow, but everything behind it is grey and it is not following the route). Sometimes it fixes itself for a short time, then does it again. Sometimes this is all, whatever you do (reroute, restart tomtom, restart phone) it won't come back. Some days none of this happens.
Nothing in configuration had changed, I've been using the same radio and rom for almost a year.
I was really annoyed by this, could not simply rely on tomtom. Now I updated the ROM, and yesterday this happened again
If this was discussed before, please point me in the right direction, most of the threads I found by search were about lags or configuration.
It might be the Quick GPS Programs, I recall having a simular problem where the GPS would work for about 5 minutes then turn off, only turning the phone off then on then running up tomtom again would get another fix, only for it to run for a further 5 mins or so.
I think I disabled the quick GPS in the registry using PHM registry editor or something simular.
It might be worth considering updating the ROM. I'm running BsB's which seems much better than the stock offerings.
I've also had this problem with the latest rom from HTC (regular rom) with the radio 1.09.XX
I've updated to radio 1.15 and the problem is gone.
Thanks for you replies.
I've now updated the radio to one of the latest (1.09.25.23), the ROM was already recent (2.07 Gen.Y). Will test it during the week.
The solution based around disabling of Quick GPS - wouldn' it make the start up time longer ?
gonx_me said:
I've updated to radio 1.15 ..
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I have tried to install this radio, but got "Invalid Device Id" message, 1.09 installed with no problems. The phone is security unlocked, could not understand what was the issue and just moved on .. :-/
Could be error in timezone
Hi all,
I had a similar problem and it appears to be the timezone, by reasons unknown my Diamond was set to a timezone of Stockholm, now that looks ok, but it is not a normal timezone.
I changed it to Stockholm, Berlin, ... the standard timezone and once again I got a fix fast and easy.
The thing that you get a gray screen is that you our somewere in the middle of the earth according to the GPS, you notice this if you could see the coordinates and altitude.
I have iGo in my Diamond, but the problem was the same when using Google maps so it wasn't a problem with the program.
I have also changed my iGo to have a manually selected time zone, because I'm not sure if it might be iGo that made the change for me.
But now all my GPS works splendid, and I have a fix within 15 seconds.
i do have similar problems.. but it only happens when i'm in the dense core of downtown toronto where all the tall buildings are..
I think it's because the tall buildings are blocking the signal somewhat that is why your GPS kept on running out or coordinates and relocating itself again
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I think it's because the tall buildings are blocking the signal somewhat that is why your GPS kept on running out or coordinates and relocating itself again
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I am in rural Scotland actually, the only high buildings here are castles which are miles away .. so this must be something different.
Neither it seems to be dependent on the sky nor battery level ...
p.s. testing new radio, so far so good ..
Just some feedback from testing: the original problem seems to be solved, but now I've got something much worse - sometimes TomTom freezes several second after the launch, and nothing can be done apart from restarting to bring it back. Don't know if this is a radio's or ROM's issue as I have changed both. Reinstalling TomTom from .cab did not help.
Anyone had similar experience ?
Just some feedback from testing: the original problem seems to be solved, but now I've got something much worse - sometimes TomTom freezes several second after the launch, and nothing can be done apart from restarting to bring it back. Don't know if this is a radio's or ROM's issue as I have changed both. Reinstalling TomTom from .cab did not help.
Anyone had similar experience ?
Hard reset maybe will help
Yes it may, but 3 days before holiday I do not want to be installing everything from scratch. I could try another ROM too if not this.
Tried - atifix, starting with bluetootsh on, wanted to reconfigure GPS setting in TomTom, but can't get there yet ... must be either BT or GPS connectivity
Yes it may, but 3 days before holiday I do not want to be installing everything from scratch. I could try another ROM too if not this.
Tried - atifix, starting with bluetootsh on, wanted to reconfigure GPS setting in TomTom, but can't get there yet ... must be either BT or GPS connectivity
Updated radio to the latest 1.15.25.14 with 1.15.25.35 rilphone, made no difference at all ..
I think I found it - G-Profile service was the cause of the problem. Once I stopped it, TomTom has got 100% starting rate. It's a pity, was a nice small app to have.