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Right now I'm using CM 6.1.1 on my Nexus One. When I flashed CM for the first time I wiped my SD card right after I installed the ROM, so I really don't remember too much about what happened to my apps or anything like that. So, my question is, if I want to install CM 7, can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards? Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7? I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did.. Does that kinda make sense? I feel dumb for asking all this. Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right? And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents? So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
Thanks for taking the time to read my long, poorly written batch of questions Help would be very very appreciated!
SD card isn't touched when flashing ROMs.
You can restore your backup and it'll be all like it was.
If you use DT A2SD - things start being more complicated.
Yumunum said:
can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards?
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Yes, you can leave your SD contents as is, they won't be touched.
Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7?
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Pictures, Music, Videos etc that are stored on the SD card will remain untouched by flashing a new ROM, however apps are a different story. Basically you've got two main types of Apps on SD cards. The first is froyos implementation which is basically used to free up space on the phone memory but will not survive a wipe or flashing a new ROM. The alternative is Dark Tremors A2SD which uses a dedicated partition on your SD card (Created through recovery) to store apps by tricking the system into thinking the folder on your SD card is actually on internal memory. Once a new ROM is installed over the current (Which obviously must use DT A2SD also) these apps should be available again with their settings etc remaining.
I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did
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Again, all data/media remains but apps require A2SD or its variants.
Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right?
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When you backup/nandroid you take a screenshot of sorts of your system. By default I think most recovery images save the boot, system, data and cache partitions when a backup is being made. Certain recoveries offer to backup other partitions such as sd-ext (Where A2SD stores the apps). Backups are designated by folders with a time stamp, I personally rename these to reflect the contents e.g. MM.v.20 tells me this is MicroMods v.20 of his GB ROM. Obviously yours will differ but I find this keeps things organised. Basically think of nandroid as the Android equivalent of Acronis true image or Norton Ghost for the PC. It lets you create any number of backups which will restore your device to the exact state at the moment of backup.
And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents?
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A newly flashed ROM will basically restore your device to factory settings but on the new ROM. Once you've signed in to your Google account certain settings and content will be automatically downloaded e.g. Calendar appointments, Contacts. Other settings will not be restored e.g. Display brightness, alarms.
So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
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Nope, again it would return to the factory settings. However you can restore nandroid backups you have made of your original ROM which would return the system exactly to its previous state.
Basically if you're on a stock ROM it won't have A2SD. If you wish to use A2SD from now on then find a ROM which uses it, partition your SD card appropriately (Plenty of guides around) and you'll have minimal problems moving from ROM to ROM. As for Nandroid you'll find that most ROM devs recommend wiping all data from the phone (Not SD card) before flashing their ROM. Otherwise files or settings from other ROMs can cause some undesired effects on your current one.
Good luck and get reading the Nexus wiki, it's very helpful for these types of questions
Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings) but I can't seem to find any info after a quick Google and it never interested me enough to look into it further. Perhaps someone can clear this up?
Hollow.Droid said:
Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings)
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I dont think thats true.. suppose it's formatted during a wipe.. titanium backup serves the purpose like a charm.. (with all the settings for the apps and the resumes for the games)
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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yeah that would be fine..
btw 1: if you upgrading a cm nightly, you need not wipe system n cache..
2: if you do a titanium backup before, then you can finish all the steps in the recovery in one go..
n I dint quite get what you are asking. but from what I know, apps 2 sd folder (ie android.secure) is erased in a wipe.. that isnt changing
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shreyas - thanks for your help.
I understand the A2SD (EXT) partition onthe sd will be wiped, but I'm assuming I would have to do nothing to get the new rom to see the ext and use it?
That's really my question. Would recovering my apps from Titanium push them back on the A2SD location or would I need to install A2SD again?
i don't think so..
I suppose that the pro version must support the direct a2sd.. but give it a try.. if it dosent work then you have do manually..
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Hi Mates,
Maybe a stupid question…
Yesterday I made a Factory reset of my P990. As I was browsing after that ,my external sd Card, I noticed that there were some leftovers of my previous installations. Is it safe to delete now?
For example a folders called Android, OSP , svox, Bluetooth, LGPCSuiteIV ?
Stock , not Rooted
cartoonistas said:
Hi Mates,
Maybe a stupid question…
Yesterday I made a Factory reset of my P990. As I was browsing after that ,my external sd Card, I noticed that there were some leftovers of my previous installations. Is it safe to delete now?
For example a folders called Android, OSP , svox, Bluetooth, LGPCSuiteIV ?
Stock , not Rooted
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Is there any contents in those folders?
I would say it's safe to delete them because they will be created again automatically if needed.
Although you could always just cut them out of there and paste them back if needed
Android is pretty safe to toy around with. Go have fun
Android - used by the OS, generated automatically by OS
OSP - used by OnScreenPhone Service/Application when connected to a PC and On Screen Phone is installed on the PC.
svox - used by the TTS Engine???
Bluetooth - used by the bluetooth service. THis is where all files received via BT are saved.
LGPCSuiteIV - contains the LG PC Suite.
Everything on the external SD card can be deleted without problems (unless you have installed anything there)
Removing content from the internal SD card may give you problems if you have installed apps on your phone.
I can recommend formatting both cards after a fresh install/reset. that way everything useless and leftover from old installation will be removed and the OS will recreate what it needs. you can format in settings. to activate the format menu entry you have to unmount the cards first.
Just remember to backup things you know you need first
Thanks Mates! As you said...I deleted them (i Made backup just in case) and everything is perfect now.
Hey people,must i lose all the apps and contacts i have when installing a custom rom?,and if yes,is there a way to backup apps and reinstall them,
thanks
When you update the ROM there is no need to do a full wipe (unless the dev says so) but when you are changing ROMs it's highly recommended to do a full wipe in order to avoid bugs. To backup your apps, you can use Titanium Backup from the market, it's the most popular one. For contacts, there is an option to export them in the SD card (and/or SIM card) and import them back after you change ROMs. Search the market for message backup-ers (Is that even a word????) so you don't loose them too. That's pretty much it.
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When you update the ROM there is no need to do a full wipe (unless the dev says so) but when you are changing ROMs it's highly recommended to do a full wipe in order to avoid bugs. To backup your apps, you can use Titanium Backup from the market, it's the most popular one. For contacts, there is an option to export them in the SD card (and/or SIM card) and import them back after you change ROMs. Search the market for message backup-ers (Is that even a word????) so you don't loose them too. That's pretty much it.
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Im updating from Froyobread to GingerDX,does that count as an "update"
i dont really care for the contacts , i have them on another sim,
but i have most of my apps on sd,they will get deleted right?
i will use titanium backup program to backup them,then flash gingerdx,
thats an update aight?
Thanks
No that's not an update. Update is like going from FB v021 to FB v022
You are changing ROMs so, yes, backup your apps with TBackup and re-transfer them to the SD card.
And please press the Thanks button instead of saying it
Use Titanium Backup or similir to save your apps+settings.
Export contact or just sync it to Google.
Then after you load new rom you just restore all.
You can always try NOT do full-wipe, but it can not work (I got boot loop).
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Like most of you who unlocked their bootloader and regularly install/test custom ROMs, there is the constant problem of accumulating debris or remnant files/folders which clutter the internal memory of the phone with time and at some point, it is quite difficult to figure out which folder or file is safe to delete and which ones can be removed once their associated custom ROM has been erased and replaced with a different ROM. I usually use a different ROM for about a week and through constant use, i tend to gather up data (custom wallpapers, screenshots, ringtones, etc) in folders created in different places by the different ROMs.
So, my question is, what do you use to clean your HTC One's SD card? I have the international version, so no carrier bloatware. Can anyone post a list of directories and files from the international stock Sense 5.0 ROM? Is there any other way of resetting the SD Card to its stock condition, like just before i flashed my first custom ROM? How about i simply format the phone's internal memory when it's connected via USB (then copy and flash the latest stock ROM)?
And another question which caters to flashing addicts (i'm getting there), how to quickly backup and restore contacts, phone numbers, addresses and everything in the sms messages (inbox, sent, etc). These are basically the only things i really care about when changing ROMs. Backing up apps and games are pretty much meaningless when using different ROMs.
electronical said:
Hi
Like most of you who unlocked their bootloader and regularly install/test custom ROMs, there is the constant problem of accumulating debris or remnant files/folders which clutter the internal memory of the phone with time and at some point, it is quite difficult to figure out which folder or file is safe to delete and which ones can be removed once their associated custom ROM has been erased and replaced with a different ROM. I usually use a different ROM for about a week and through constant use, i tend to gather up data (custom wallpapers, screenshots, ringtones, etc) in folders created in different places by the different ROMs.
So, my question is, what do you use to clean your HTC One's SD card? I have the international version, so no carrier bloatware. Can anyone post a list of directories and files from the international stock Sense 5.0 ROM? Is there any other way of resetting the SD Card to its stock condition, like just before i flashed my first custom ROM? How about i simply format the phone's internal memory when it's connected via USB (then copy and flash the latest stock ROM)?
And another question which caters to flashing addicts (i'm getting there), how to quickly backup and restore contacts, phone numbers, addresses and everything in the sms messages (inbox, sent, etc). These are basically the only things i really care about when changing ROMs. Backing up apps and games are pretty much meaningless when using different ROMs.
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Just a quick note from me: though I have TiBu (full), I recommend
- SMS Backup & Restore
- Call Logs Backup & Restore
for SMS & Call logs, they restore better IMHO than TiBu. They even restore whether the SMS was read or not, etc.
I use TiBu mostly for apps+data, and I sync my contacts from scratch.
Also, I first restore SMS and call logs, before syncing contacts so that the caller id gets matched correctly. the other way around (sync contacts then restore SMS & call logs, doesnt match the caller correctly)
Install TWRP
Full Wipe/Factory Reset
Wipe both caches and data
Format SD card
Adb push rom.zip and flash it.
Or to go the extra mile, flash a RUU and start from scratch.
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Please can anyone help
CoryTallman said:
Install TWRP
Full Wipe/Factory Reset
Wipe both caches and data
Format SD card
Adb push rom.zip and flash it.
Or to go the extra mile, flash a RUU and start from scratch.
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Im looking for a RUU of Vodafone 1.128.161.7
Please can anyone help/
seanclarke1969 said:
Im looking for a RUU of Vodafone 1.128.161.7
Please can anyone help/
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Google? Search? It may or may not be out there, but don't hijack a thread.
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I am thinking about doing a hard reset after installing the latest update to 8.1 as battery is still terrible. I have some questions please.
Will my apps and games saves be ok on my sd card after reset?
I know I will need to reinstall all apps again but will those apps recognise the data stored on the phone or will it overwrite my saved data for the apps when reinstalling to sd card?
I know mail, sms, contacts and calender get backed up. Does what's app get backed up too?
So my main concern is losing my game progress for apps on card if I hard reset.
Any advice appreciated.
Thank you!
tboy2000 said:
I am thinking about doing a hard reset after installing the latest update to 8.1 as battery is still terrible. I have some questions please.
Will my apps and games saves be ok on my sd card after reset?
I know I will need to reinstall all apps again but will those apps recognise the data stored on the phone or will it overwrite my saved data for the apps when reinstalling to sd card?
I know mail, sms, contacts and calender get backed up. Does what's app get backed up too?
So my main concern is losing my game progress for apps on card if I hard reset.
Any advice appreciated.
Thank you!
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Your apps and games on the sd-card will be ok after hard resetting your phone. The problem is that your phone does not accept them and you will need to reinstall each app (and you lose the game progress unless the dev has integrated some kind of backup to OneDrive etc.).
In-App-Purchases will be stored if they are durable; consumable purchases are lost!
To mention WhatsApp: it is pulled form the store, so you were not able to reinstall it on your device!
I think 8.1 added the ability to back up application data too, which should help out. I don't know for sure, though; there may be limits and apps which get pulled may not get backed up / restored.