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O2 XDA IIi Bluetooth with Bluetooth Car Kit Issues.

Hi Guys,
Recent got an XDA IIi after being with the older XDA II for over 16 Months.
But I have recently run into problems with my BT Car kit :
Motorola Bluetooth Car Kit HFW-8000.
Basically the problem is that it does not always connect to the Car Kit and when it does it will only from time to time connect and let me have a handfree conversation.
I have also used the Broadcom Bluetooth Cab file here in order to extend what Bluetooth Profiles that can be used but seems not to have any great bearing to stablize the issue.
So I went down the Hard Reset Road but again still intermittent issues, I then upgraded the ROM to the New one on the O2 Website the v 1.11.169 ROM.
I also had similar issues with the XDA II but it was resolved by using the Pocket Bluetooth tools, which was great and never once after installing it did I have any issues with the Car Kit.
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/
One of my questions is, is there a similar programme to to above Pocket Bluetooth tools for the XDA IIi as I have tried it with the XDA IIi but does not work.
Or does anyone know how you would revert to have the XDA II radio or is there a work around for it.
Thanks Guys
Woody

Hi Woody_XDA,
I have had my XDA2i for a couple of months now and recently got a O2 blue headset for it, I had simular problems with the headset disconnecting and having to manually connect every time I switched it on. After browsing this wonderfull forum I decided to do a corperate install and get rid of the O2 active interface, since then no problems at all. I now use Pugs modified ROM version 162 with radio 1.04 and have no stability problems at all with no twice weekly reset. Hope this helps you and many thanks to Pug for his ROM.
Mace

Ditto, I also use the custom firmware with 1.04 radio and bluetooth works a charm. It still eats battery like nothing else, but it works with no problems. Also like the fact that the XDA can cope with my GPS receiver and my handsfree kit simultaneously, that's handy for in the car.

Cheers Guys for the information, took it on board and works great, did a great deal of stress testing in order to confirm it and works excellent..Thanks to PUG again and guys thanks for the info much appreciated and this is by far a great forum

Mace - you mention some bluetooth issues being resolved since you applied the custom ROM... I posted in the Alpine Applications forum here the other day a list of issues with bluetooth that I was wondering had been addressed - so far no reply - are these the symptoms that were cured for you??

Hi Bewlay Brother sorry, I missed your other post on Bluetooth issues, my original problem was that every time I switched on my BT headset , which is a O2 Blue, I had to open the BT manager and make the connection, the phone would then occasionally lose the connection and sometimes whilst still showing a connection refuse to transfer the call. This was using the official 162 ROM with the O2 active UI. I have since installed Pugs 162 ROM with radio1.04 and done a corporate install and BT seems to work perfectly, switch on the headset, it connects, never loses pairing and transfers calls.
Hope this helps you, and thanks again to Pug,
Mace.

Mace - what you describe sounds similar - my problems were essentially the loss of pairing with my Motorola headset a lot of the times when the XDAIIi switched off its display and went into stand-by mode, also if I closed the boom bike on the headset (to temporarily turn off the headset) it would fail to re-pair when I next opened the boom mike... the other issue was that I had to make sure the phone keyboard was displayed on the XDA once I had paired up otherwise the last number redial function on the headset would not work - if I pressed the dial button on headset and the phone display was not on the screen it would simply open the phone display function but fail to then dial the number - really crap. Also reception was poor to headset even over relatively short distances from the XDA. IF these areas in particular could be cured by the upgrade then I am eager to do it - I must admit I have read that this upgrade has not been without problems for some people here so it is going to be a tough call.

Just a thought, but have you done a personal or corporate install as I think the main fix with Pugs ROM was the upgrade to radio 1.04, which I don’t think affects the BT, so a corporate install with your existing ROM may make a difference.

Did a corporate install when it was new out of the box...

whats the difference between the corporate and personal install?

Corporate doesn't install ANY of the branded O2 interface - so no gubbins, nothing to slow down the phone, you just get a bog standard Windows Mobile 2003 SE installation, aside from the O2 GPRS and SMS settings. Bosh.

hi
i've been reading the posts and i have the same problem where can i get hold of pug's ROM if it's possible cos this seems to get rid of the problem

And then today, headset will not automatically connect, needing Bluetooth manager to be opened to make the connection. AARRRGH!

BT car kit problems
I have the 1.04 Radio, but it still won't sync with my 2003 BMW 325xi bluetooh or with my 2005 Acura MDX bluetooth.
Help!

Unstable Bluetooth Signal Strength - Samsung WEP200 Bluetooth Headset
Hi, I just got a Samsung WEP200 Bluetooth Headset. It would pair with my O2 XDAIIi but I cannot hear any voice in both incoming and outgoing calls. When I check the BT Manager, it shows a totally unstable BT strength that varies from very strong to very weak. The same headset worked well with other BT phones. My ROM version is 1.11.00 WWE, Radio version 1.04.00.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kaiser car (BMW) bluetooth issue

Hey all,
I tried connecting the Kaiser to my BMW and was able to setup the bluetooth connection without any problems. Once the connection is established, the car tries downloading the contacts, and thats when the Kaiser reboots. My 05 BMW has the iDrive and will display the list of contacts on the screen so I can choose which contact to call. BMW does not appear to support any HTC phones but thought I'd throw the question out there. Does any Kaiser owners around here drive BMW's, with or without problems?
Thanks fellas

Hi,
I can confirmt that everything works fine with my BMW and Kaiser
ROM 1.56.405.5
Hop, that helps.
Chris

Get your iDrive's firmware updates and download the latest DVD for it.
that will sort you out.
x5world is where you will find all the info

Thanks guys!!!

I confirm: Kaiser + e91 with cip v.25
The last cip for bmw e9x series is 27.

I also confirm that Kaiser works great with BMW X3 from 04 bluetooth kit...
pt_t830

Phone book working on a E46 05. If you see a message saying please wait, do just that! took awhile for the phone book to transfer. SMS message display not working, as expected.

my kaiser with 6.1 original HTC rom and enabled remote sim access works great with x5 2004. sms messaging don't work, any solution

Both my Kaisers (home & work) on Duttys 6.1 & Vodafone standard 6.1 respectively communicate fine with the BMW 3 series bluetooth - including downloading contacts.
The sound quality isn't great though....

Upgrade bluetooth roms?

OK, so I have a headunit w/ bluetooth capability. Basically when you get in the car it syncs w/ your phone, and lets you answer hands free, talk through and hear through the car itself. My problem is although the headunit finds the device, it cant sync. I get instant error. MY friend has the same phone, but diff radio version etc, and he can sync to it fine.
I am on dutty's dual touch rom
These are the #'s I see when I start up my phone
1.64.08.21
25.74.40.02w
3.08.00.00
1.) can I update the bluetooth through a rom (radio or separate?)
2.) am I using the right roms, or should I be looking to upgrade them?

Wow you would figure someone could have answered this....
Well I changed my rom to Deathv2, instead of dutty's rom, and now I can sync up with my car. Looks like its a problem with dutty's rom.

BMW and 6.1 bluetooth

I have a 2007 non I drive 3 series. Bluetooth connection worked great until I moved to windows mobile 6.1. now i can not get the phone to stay connected. I have the standard ATT rom, and have tried using Kaiser tweak as well, to no avail. Anyone else having the same issue? Any ideas?

Worked for me with no problems (although the sound quality was poor).
I've now got a 3-series with iDrive and it similarly syncs easily, and the sound quality seems improved.
I do have a question though - I have installed BT Audio to attempt to play music via the car speakers, but I cannot find any option within the Car stereo options to accept input via Bluetooth (other than for phone calls). So I'm back to using a wire...
Any ideas?
Cheers,

BMW and bluetooth
there is no way to play music through the bluetooth portion of the system. Gotta use that wire!

2005 BMW X5 and Bluetooth WM6.1
My AT&T Tilt bluetooth worked great with WM6, but the standard AT&T ROM upgrade to 6.1 causes the phone to continuously reset as soon as it syncs with the car. I suspect it's being caused by loading the phone book; loading phonebook briefly flashes on the dash display before the phone resets.
Has anyone else investigated this problem - I've read a number of similar problem posts on various forums (AT&T, HTC) but no solutions.
How do I turn off the phone book sync feature in the registry? I couldn't find a profile specific to that?

Can the Tilt/Kaiser Bluetooth Stack be replaced?

I've been having some issues with my Tilt and my car's hands free setup (see: http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=105410). The problems seems to lie with the Microsoft bluetooth stack on WM 6.1. HTC is no help with this issue so I want to take matters into my own hands. Is there a way to replace the default Microsoft bluetooth stack with another, more reliable compatible stack from a reliable company (not Microsoft or HTC)? I don't want to get rid of my Tilt, but I need it to work right in my car. I'm thinking of staying away from purchasing WM 6.1 smartphones because of this.

frustrated...
Wow, no one has answered my post here, at ATT, at Kenwood, or on tiltsite. HTC answered only to tell me that compatibility doesn't necessarily mean that it would work (bs). This is very frustrating. I've read post all over xda developers and the rest of the internet about tilt bluetooth problems yet no one has an answer. I've completely giving up on trying to get bluetooth to work right with any of my devices (car, computer, etc). I can't imagine buying another HTC product. Good luck to everyone else out there struggling to get bluetooth to work on their tilt while the motorola, blackberry, lg, samsung, and other phone users watch with amazement and pity. Keep fighting the good fight. Hopefully one of you will win. I've completely lost!

That's a pretty strange story you've got there, because I have zero problems with my Tilt and bluetooth pairing to all manners of devices... on a regular basis, I connect my Tilt to my car's Pioneer stereo deck, to my laptop and desktop, and to my wireless headphones and I've had little to no difficulty. Actually, the easiest pairings so far have been between my Tilt and Pioneer Stereo Deck... At least for basic features - in order for the phone book entries to show on the deck's LCD display it required an upgrade from WinMo 6.0 to 6.1 and then in the deck itself I have to manually download the contact book. But that's the only troublesome thing I have to do, which is mostly an advanced feature any way that I could live (but prefer not to) without.
Sucks that you're having problems, all I can suggest is make sure you're doing everything properly... I've had no problems I couldn't overcome with my Tilt and bluetooth capable devices, especially since Windows Mobile 6.1 came out.

Hi,
I'm having the same problems, also when disconnecting from the BT carstereo after a phonecall, the device freezes up.
Anybody found a solution for this problem yet ?
Ny the way, my car stereo is a JVC KD-BT1
GRTZ,
Niels

@k4ever: Have you checked out this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
From what I can tell, they've ported the Widcomm BT stack to the Hermes and TyTN, so I imagine it's not far off from the Kaiser/TyTN-II, if it doesn't already work (my BT is working fine, so I'm not too likely to mes with my phone to find out-- but I hope this helps!)
-Weasel5i2
EDIT: Here's a CAB from the newer threads of the above post:
http://rs38.rapidshare.com/files/30721150/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB

Thanks
Wow, thanks for the replies.
@ceosion
I got it working with a Pioneer deck in Best Buy. I was actually debating buying one, but I paid $500 for my Kenwood setup. All of my other phones work with it, to include other WM phone (not from HTC). I contacted Kenwood, but I have not recieved a reply.
@Weasel5i2
I tried the Widcomm stack when I used the stock ATT rom. It completely disabled bluetooth on the Tilt. I will try it with the PDA Corner rom I'm currently using (the best!) after the holiday weekend.
Thanks again for the replies!

k4ever said:
Wow, thanks for the replies.
@ceosion
I got it working with a Pioneer deck in Best Buy. I was actually debating buying one, but I paid $500 for my Kenwood setup. All of my other phones work with it, to include other WM phone (not from HTC). I contacted Kenwood, but I have not recieved a reply....
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I am experiencing Bluetooth connection issues between the Tytn2 and a kenwood DNX8220BT As far as I've heard from kenwood the Tytn2 is only supported with the older version of Windows Mobile (6.0)
I've also tried the Kenwood with my wife's Touch Diamond (Also HTC but other CPU, don't know about the BT radio though) but that one is also experiencing trouble. I didn't get any indication when they would have a new firmware version ready.
You did indicate that you also tried another WM phone, which version of WM does that one operate on?

@Mautje
The other WM phone was a Samsung Blackjack II running WM 5. I downgraded my Tilt to the default WM 6 Rom from ATT, but I had the same problems. I'm running the PDA Corner WM 6.1 Rom now. Does matter which ROM I use, I get the same results on the Tilt.

widcomm stack a no-go
I tried the Widcomm stack. It did not work at all. Kept getting error that "there was not enough memory to run, please reset device" or something to that nature. Could not uninstall so I had to re-flash my ROM. Back to square one.

k4ever said:
The other WM phone was a Samsung Blackjack II running WM 5. I downgraded my Tilt to the default WM 6 Rom from ATT, but I had the same problems. I'm running the PDA Corner WM 6.1 Rom now. Does matter which ROM I use, I get the same results on the Tilt.
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To bad. I was also looking into the other roms on this forum but it wil probably not work..
Kenwood is reporting that it should work with the rom version mentioned in the compatibility sheet.
In the sheet for version 1.43 firmware there is no mention at all of a rom version just the Tytn2.. I guess that's the WM 6.0 version