As most of you know I have discussed using media net instead of pda personal, and even taught numerous people how to get away with it even tethering with media net.
Well im sorry I am the one to tell you all. There are some new facts AT&T fails to tell everybody as of 10-26-08.
1. AT&T has intergrated a provisioning for media net users. Here are the details
* EVERYONE that has the media net feature on there account will be watched
what this means for kaiser/tilt users?
If you are using 15$ media net instead of the required 30$ pda personal WATCH OUT!!! once you use (and it does not matter the phone) 2.5gb a month a flag goes up. A specific department will now watch data transfers for 3 months after the flag goes up. If you use more than 5gb in a month, Well you are pretty much FUC*ED. If this happens 1 of 2 things can happen
1. MASSIVE amounts of overage charges.
2. Your contract can be canceled and you will be liable for any early termination fee. This is because as you have certain rights with ATT they also have certain rights.
Oh yea, one more thing. For those of you actually thinking about going legit and adding the 60.00 pda personal with tethering feature... BEWARE it is no longer unlimited, it has a max use of 5gb a month and .49 cents per mb over.
So I hope i have helped or at least made you AWARE, so watch your data use if the above applies to you.
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Thanks for the info. Luckily for me I have no way to reach that bandwidth on the west side of Michigan, no 3G. at&t trying to charge for slow internet... not fair
Good looking out!
I've been flying right and paying the $30 plan, but it's good for others to know as AT&T charges can get out of hand quickly.
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Good looking out!
I've been flying right and paying the $30 plan, but it's good for others to know as AT&T charges can get out of hand quickly.
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I learned that the hardway....... with a $1000+ phone bill
Heh. I have been paying 49.99 for my plan for the last few yrs........ Let them try to charge me for going over 5gb ...................
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I learned that the hardway....... with a $1000+ phone bill
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I had tried to do the $15 media net, but even though it said I had successfully added it, it was still charging me pay-per-use. I didn't have an IMEI of a regular phone, so when I called to get the $300+ charges removed I had to sign up for the $30 plan
Thank you for the heads up on this.
I've been using the PDA Personal Unlimited w/ 1000 SMS since I got my Tilt. Since I only use tethering for recreational surfing, I think the most data I've ever used, according to my bill, is like 1.5GB/mo.
Good, this really pissed me off when they finally decided to do this. The 30.00 makes sense if your always in a 3g area, but you are always using edge its utter and complete bullsh*t.
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Good, this really pissed me off when they finally decided to do this. The 30.00 makes sense if your always in a 3g area, but you are always using edge its utter and complete bullsh*t.
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What he said.
curious - do you have official att language we can read regarding this? not that i dont believe you just like to see it for myself
how'd you hear about it?
Because he works hand in hand with att..
I thought everyone knew that.
I really can't see myself going over 2.5GB just yet. What are you guys dowloading???
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curious - do you have official att language we can read regarding this? not that i dont believe you just like to see it for myself
how'd you hear about it?
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Do you really think AT&T would publicly release documentation to the effect that they are going to bust customers that are knowingly using the incorrect features. Do you think im going to risk my huge salary and even bigger private office by releasing AT&T internal documentation.
If you dont believe me, go ahead and tether 10gb with media net and see what happens. Besides you know what feature your supposed to have, what i have taught everyone to do isint exactly legit (but you all knew that anyway) So its not like AT&T is doing anything illegal by checking usage on their network.
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I really can't see myself going over 2.5GB just yet. What are you guys dowloading???
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Porn, lots and lots of Porn.. I mean tons of it.
Damn i think i just incriminated myself.
UMMMM I plead the 5th
well that sucks especially since i've been using media on a ppc for close to 3 years now
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Thank you for the heads up on this.
I've been using the PDA Personal Unlimited w/ 1000 SMS since I got my Tilt. Since I only use tethering for recreational surfing, I think the most data I've ever used, according to my bill, is like 1.5GB/mo.
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same here i've never used more then 2gb's at the most so i think i should still be safe with the medianet 200 plan i have unlimited net and 200 text messages
i wish they didn't have text messaging ranges from 200 then jumps to 1500
I couldn't agree more
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curious - do you have official att language we can read regarding this? not that i dont believe you just like to see it for myself
how'd you hear about it?
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Why ask him to provide something you can read regarding this. Why not just log into your account and read it for yourself. But I can confirm that AT&T has changed something, because I have several AT&T phones (ie Sony Ericcson 580i, and BB Pearl). I once was able to simply change phones by switching sims and not notice anything on the My Account (using manage my account) No however as soon as I switch the sim into a new phone it sees immediately and changes the phone I'm using to the match where the sim card is. It didn't do that before. That's how I know they are reading (provisioning) the phones network usage to match the device it's in.
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I once was able to simply change phones by switching sims and not notice anything on the My Account (using manage my account) No however as soon as I switch the sim into a new phone it sees immediately and changes the phone I'm using to the match where the sim card is. It didn't do that before. That's how I know they are reading (provisioning) the phones network usage to match the device it's in.
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Same here. About two months back I sent my Tilt out for a repairs and I had borrowed a spare phone (LG) from my coworker. Within that time of using her phone, I had logged into my account and noticed that they had updated my device to the temporary phone automatically. And vise versa when I got my Tilt back.
Another reason I decided to keep flying straight.
what happens to those users who legitimately use medianet on the PPC device only (no tethering) and go over the bandwidth flag? I mean, if you think about it, video streaming in a 3G area could definitely hit that mark, especially if you download all install cabs on your phone rather then onto your computer. add to that IM's, remote desktop, google nav, and you can see where bandwidth could go up. and these are all legitimate uses. I'll be pissed if I get hit with something like that for using my phone the right way.
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An extremely suburb app. It works great on the Touch Pro! Oh, and its free too.
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Ill have to try it out, because i love WMWifiRouter and i was thinking about buying it. But ill give it a go and post back
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An extremely suburb app. It works great on the Touch Pro! Oh, and its free too.
Source: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8454.html
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AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! HERE IT IS!! I have been looking for this app's link on XDA for a couple hours now...
Here is my problem... I downloaded this software directly to my phone via Opera, installed it, reset, started wifi in communications manager... and the program still won't work. My laptop won't see a signal from the phone as an access point/hot spot... BUT, it will see Winmo WiFiRouter for the past couple months...
Any ideas? I just thought it would be awesome to use a freeware, as opposed to $30; but I can't seem to get it to work
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Awesome. Now I can certainly max out my UNLIMITED (err 5 gig capped) ATT connection.
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Awesome. Now I can certainly max out my UNLIMITED (err 5 gig capped) ATT connection.
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AT&T caps their unlimited plan? Looks like they'll have a less-than-friendly call today...
Try establishing a ad-hoc computer to computer connection. See if it works.
Did someone make it work with mac/osx ?
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Did someone make it work with mac/osx ?
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This is an Ad-hoc connection, Its should work fine with any wireless card....
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AT&T caps their unlimited plan? Looks like they'll have a less-than-friendly call today...
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Yeah, Verizon does the same Alltel hasn't yet lukily, but they will be Verizon very soon once they stop dragging their feet, then we can all be strewed.
Still can't get this app to work... maybe that's why WiFiRouter is $30, and this is free?
Ok so what's this mean, folks? I know how it works, but what I mean by my question is... if I'm on the $30/mo data plan can I use this or will they up me to the $60 or whatever it is? I was told if I tethered my phone (by usb cable) they'd know and contact me, giving me the good news I would be increased to the tethering plan. What about with this program?
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This is an Ad-hoc connection, Its should work fine with any wireless card....
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This is not so simple. I was trying WMWiFiRouter and it didnt work too. I need to turn off pass request to get it work. I dont see here any options, to turn this off.
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Ok so what's this mean, folks? I know how it works, but what I mean by my question is... if I'm on the $30/mo data plan can I use this or will they up me to the $60 or whatever it is? I was told if I tethered my phone (by usb cable) they'd know and contact me, giving me the good news I would be increased to the tethering plan. What about with this program?
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yes what i really wanna know if its SAFE for my laptop to piggy back on my FUZE's data connection cuz i dont wanna get a suprising insane bill in the next month tbh. anyone has an answer??
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yes what i really wanna know if its SAFE for my laptop to piggy back on my FUZE's data connection cuz i dont wanna get a suprising insane bill in the next month tbh. anyone has an answer??
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No, they have no way of knowing what your doing as to tethering. The only thing they may be suspect of is if you are going over 5GB a month or getting very close to it often. Also if they see extremely high data transfers in a few hours they might suspect you are tethering, but they still have no way of knowing and they can't change your plan without your consent/request first. Just keep an eye on your data transfers with something like spb data monitor and be careful with big downloads.
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No, they have no way of knowing what your doing as to tethering. The only thing they may be suspect of is if you are going over 5GB a month or getting very close to it often. Also if they see extremely high data transfers in a few hours they might suspect you are tethering, but they still have no way of knowing and they can't change your plan without your consent/request first. Just keep an eye on your data transfers with something like spb data monitor and be careful with big downloads.
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cheers bro! do you think Windows Live Messenger along with Ventrilo or TeamSpeak use up alot of data? its all i need to know
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No, they have no way of knowing what your doing as to tethering. The only thing they may be suspect of is if you are going over 5GB a month or getting very close to it often. Also if they see extremely high data transfers in a few hours they might suspect you are tethering, but they still have no way of knowing and they can't change your plan without your consent/request first. Just keep an eye on your data transfers with something like spb data monitor and be careful with big downloads.
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Ok, I was just curious. See, I've heard both ways. I've heard people say they tethered and got a friendly call from cingular/at&t saying "hey guess what...naughty naughty, you used your phone wrong buddy" [ok, probably not those exact words!] and told them they had to change their plan. Just worried about that I guess, as anyone can understand.
Has anybody got this working with a PSP? It doesn't seem to find the signal, while my old S620 can.
This wifi program is awesome much quicker opening time and much less setup then WMWifirouter. To bad this program didn't come out months ago before I spent the $30 and bought WMWifirouter LOL
Installation worked fine with my phone (htc jade) and I also have a shortcut to start the programme, but there are no buttons (info, start) at the bottom of the display and thought there is e little arrow that points to the bottom (I think it's an arrow) I'm not able to click on it and furthermore I'm not able to scroll down with finger / stylus.
So very frustrating: I can start the program, setup the name and passwort of the connection but neigher start something nor use any other functionality of it!?
Anyone has the same problem / ideas to solve it?
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I question the person that said they cant tell if your tethering.
I would suggest they can tell pretty quickly.
And yes they will slap you with a tethering charge if it goes over certain amount.
At&t is getting old with the insane charges. Time to trade up for a cdma2000 version of the fuze i think. I personally will not re-up (buy a new device that is) with at&t until they join the rest of the world w/ data pricing.
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I question the person that said they cant tell if your tethering.
I would suggest they can tell pretty quickly.
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How do you figure? All AT&T knows is that you are using an app on your phone that is transferring a lot of data. Maybe you're just browsing the web on your phone, maybe you're using skype, etc. They can't tell what app is using the data, so they can't tell if it's a tethering app or the opera that ships with the phone.
Ad says its running cm7. Anything I should look for or check to make sure I'm not getting screwed?
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Don't pay extra because it has CM7 is on it. Installing CM7 is almost trivial now days. Going back to stock can be pain, not because it's difficult but because there are so many different tutorials and its confusing.
I would say skip it and buy one so you can hack it and learn. I wouldn't hesitate if the CM7 one is a good deal. You can pick up refurbed NCs for about $200 on line. If there is an issue with a refurb BN is pretty good about replacing it.
If it works good and looks good it should be fine. Read developers posts to set up the way you want. You can even put it back to stock if you want.
Someone smarter than I can probably give more details on this but I'm not sure it's a good idea to buy it with CM7 already installed. It might seem like a time saver but when I was playing with my girlfriends NC I wiped, cleared, did a bunch of stuff and when I went back to stock it would only let me register it with the ORIGINAL email and password. To put it another way, if they did not de-register the device before installing CM7 going back to stock will be (in my experience) a real pain in the neck since you have to have that original info to clear BN's opening screens and be able to attach the device to your email / account. There might be some simple way around this but I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the threads I've read. Personally I would rather buy one that is stock so I can just go in and click de-register and know it's done rather than have someone tell me it was and not know if they remembered things accurately. I'm sure a call to BN would eventually fix it but that's not much fun.
Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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I'll give you first hand why you should be wary of Craig's list with CM7.
Here's the 'scam' that's being run - these guys get a bad credit card or a bad check or whatever and buy the nook. Or maybe they just swipe one. As soon as B&N finds out, with a report from a store or from the stolen credit card, they blacklist the device. The actual device serial number is on the receipts, so they can do this.
Now, what that means is that you can't register the NC, no matter how hard you try. B&N won't unblacklist it, even if you're the "unknowing victim" here. If you're running CM7, no big deal. But if you want to run stock, you would have issues. And that's if you can live with having stolen merchandise.
After getting rooked like this, I just ask for the device serial number. If they're legit, they should have no problems giving it to you. Then just call up B&N and tell them you're buying a used Nook and you want to make sure that it's legit. They'll be able to tell you when and where it was purchased (by store #, but you can look that up) and whether it is blacklisted or not.
I had one someone was was selling one "New in the box" for $200. It was purchased in Atlanta on Friday and on Craig's list on Tuesday, 750 miles away. I don't think they realized what I would do with the serial number, but once I saw that, I knew it was a scam - why would anyone take a $50 loss on an unopened Nook 4 days after buying it?
Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
BTW make sure there's a sdcard. 2GB at least.
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Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
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I got the serial number without a fuss, called B an N, but they just gave me the run around... what number did you call? I used 1-800-the-book....
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I think the first time I had to call them I used the-book and then they gave me another number at one point, but they should have been able to help you. I had no problems at all - called 3 different times and got answers and info.
Negrito said:
Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
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Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Not entirely sure what the challenges would be other than power connections, Market access and possibly wifi protocols. I've read in Canada Google Apps shows different apps than here in USA so that might be applicable there. Not sure. I would definately check the power/recharge specs though. I'm sure there are other more knowledgable on this than I here who can chime in.
As we are not concerned about connecting to a Network, i dont think there should be any other issue. We are on Android, so connecting to a Market should be something easy to overcome!
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Fekish said:
i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Yes i know thanks, bought about 200 things from internet outside europe
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Caution is always needed but I've bought 4 off of craigslist. Even if cm7 is already installed you can always wipe n reinstall -assuming of course you don't need stock nook
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Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Negrito said:
Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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It was already flashed when I bought it. So that may be the problem. I havent had time to sit down mess with it yet. Hopefully the 2.3.4 drops this week then I'll just upgrade to that.
I'm not extremely angry or anything, but I got throttled by AT&T today lol! I don't really use wifi much and I stream music and movies etc from my cloud via Pogo plug, and I'll be honest, I've been so excited about my speeds I've been using my unlimited data plan to it's fullest to say the least.
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I'm not extremely angry or anything, but I got throttled by AT&T today lol! I don't really use wifi much and I stream music and movies etc from my cloud via Pogo plug, and I'll be honest, I've been so excited about my speeds I've been using my unlimited data plan to it's fullest to say the least.
As you can see, my data speed has dropped drastically for the remainder off my billing cycle which is only for a few more days.
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Damn u got owned =\ ... I have att
Btw do u have a screenshot as to how much GBs uve used just before they throttled u?
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stop using so much then lol. honestly, 2gb is plenty for a monthly bases. if youre crushing the network cause youre downloading movies, music, and what not non stop, then youre hurting the network for everyone else.
the iphone is the number one web browser on mobile platforms, and att learned quick that if they didnt do this, then their networks speeds would go way down or even crash... and now that att is competing with verizon (which throttle too for the same reason) and sprint, and soon to be tmobile and maybe even local cell providers like patriot and bell, att needs to stay competitive and make sure their network isnt being hammered by a few people that abuse the network
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stop using so much then lol. honestly, 2gb is plenty for a monthly bases. if youre crushing the network cause youre downloading movies, music, and what not non stop, then youre hurting the network for everyone else.
the iphone is the number one web browser on mobile platforms, and att learned quick that if they didnt do this, then their networks speeds would go way down or even crash... and now that att is competing with verizon (which throttle too for the same reason) and sprint, and soon to be tmobile and maybe even local cell providers like patriot and bell, att needs to stay competitive and make sure their network isnt being hammered by a few people that abuse the network
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2Gigs is the sweet spot for generating revenue. Fact is, they WILL NOT throttle on the tiered plans. Follow the money...
2Gigs in one month is squat and VERY easy to go through w/out streaming music, movies or vids. I do it regularly.
Let us know how much you used man, so we can watch out?
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I will say I was actually trying to use a lot off data. That's why I'm not mad. I don't think this would happen if I go back to normal use. My data heavily increased when I started using my cloud. I promise I'm not doing anything illegal. Even apps that recommend for you to use wifi, I was using my data. it won't show how much I've used so far, but last month I used 8.5GB of data and I had no problems. And that was before LTE. so I think misty people would be fine.
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Here's one week of usage. Mind you, this is with Wifi at home and Mom's house too.
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I will say I was actually trying to use a lot off data. That's why I'm not mad. I don't think this would happen if I go back to normal use. My data heavily increased when I started using my cloud. I promise I'm not doing anything illegal. Even apps that recommend for you to use wifi, I was using my data. it won't show how much I've used so far, but last month I used 8.5GB of data and I had no problems. And that was before LTE. so I think misty people would be fine.
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You can always check your data usage for the billing cycle up to the day before online under my account and current usage.
Or just dial *3282# and it will send you a text with your data usage of that cycle. Its that easy lol.
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Plus I advice people to stop running speed test every 5 mins, you will be surprise how much data it uses specially on an LTE connection.
Reclaim said:
I'm not extremely angry or anything, but I got throttled by AT&T today lol! I don't really use wifi much and I stream music and movies etc from my cloud via Pogo plug, and I'll be honest, I've been so excited about my speeds I've been using my unlimited data plan to it's fullest to say the least.
As you can see, my data speed has dropped drastically for the remainder off my billing cycle which is only for a few more days.
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Just use the method I mentioned in another thread. Change the apn to a media net one, and while you'll drop down to hspa, you'll get full speed back!
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Just use the method I mentioned in another thread. Change the apn to a media net one, and while you'll drop down to hspa, you'll get full speed back!
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Cool I'll give that a shot! Thank you!
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Cool I'll give that a shot! Thank you!
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I've had to use it the last couple of days. Damn att.
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I've had to use it the last couple of days. Damn att.
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It worked! Thank you. At least I'm back 3g. What a pain. I'll have to use this for a few more days.
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2Gigs is the sweet spot for generating revenue. Fact is, they WILL NOT throttle on the tiered plans. Follow the money...
2Gigs in one month is squat and VERY easy to go through w/out streaming music, movies or vids. I do it regularly.
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I've never gone over 2GB in my entire term, and I have everything on autoupdate, autosync, everything. I usually average around 1600 MB, and the highest I've hit is 1800MB.
I don't use Google Music, Pandora, or Youtube on mobile network; I usually make sure to be on WiFi for that sort of thing.
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It worked! Thank you. At least I'm back 3g. What a pain. I'll have to use this for a few more days.
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Glad I could help. The thanks buttons are nice too.... .
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Glad I could help. The thanks buttons are nice too.... .
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Done and done
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as the number of lte users goes up, so will the amount of bandwidth used, and thus the top 5% will get higher and higher.
So, everyone use as much as you can.
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as the number of lte users goes up, so will the amount of bandwidth used, and thus the top 5% will get higher and higher.
So, everyone use as much as you can.
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Good point. We should really make it rough for AT&T if they're going to do that to us.
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If you guys don't mind telling, what are the APN settings you guys used when you get throttled?.
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as the number of lte users goes up, so will the amount of bandwidth used, and thus the top 5% will get higher and higher.
So, everyone use as much as you can.
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They just want everyone off the unlimited plan, when they think their better then Verizon (already 11 months behind Verizon's LTE, GG).
Also, I get how there's a certain amount of spectrum that you can really have for HSPA+, but with LTE, you can push MASSIVE amounts of data through the network with no problems.
Oh well... we'll just had to deal with it until the Government grabs the carriers by the ba- nevermind, we'll just have to deal with it.
I hate att and this bs theyre doing....
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Nice reply! Hah.
Me too! But for that reason and another: I'm part of a family plan and we all upgraded at the same time last year, but AT&T is only allowing one line to upgrade the phone. Want to switch to Verizon.
how much data had you used this month when they sent that?
Task killer...........
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Stop being a data hog.l and u should be fine....porn uses up tons of data....just saying
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mrakifa said:
Stop being a data hog.l and u should be fine....porn uses up tons of data....just saying
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I hope that's a joke. We've already established on this forum that you don't have to be a hog to get throttled. That's why this is an issue.
Why do people keep saying they are going to switch to Verizon, don't there plans have a cap to?
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Why do people keep saying they are going to switch to Verizon, don't there plans have a cap to?
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Yup. They do also. And they also have guidelines about upgrades, just like any other cell phone company that isn't prepaid.
I'm pretty sure everyone hates att, they are the worst service provider next to tmobile imo and I cannot wait to switch. Xda users should just get together and switch to sprint. Unlimited data and no throttling!!!
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I'm pretty sure everyone hates att, they are the worst service provider next to tmobile imo and I cannot wait to switch. Xda users should just get together and switch to sprint. Unlimited data and no throttling!!!
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Except sprint is like being throttled all the time.
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Except sprint is like being throttled all the time.
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One of the very few people I know on Sprint said he hardly ever gets over 1 mbps on 3G. He did say their 4G was ok, about the same speed as my AT&T 3.5G, when he can connect to it. But it never works indoors.
Granted that is only 1 person but it must be bad because he is probably going to switch to AT&T.
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One of the very few people I know on Sprint said he hardly ever gets over 1 mbps on 3G. He did say their 4G was ok, about the same speed as my AT&T 3.5G, when he can connect to it. But it never works indoors.
Granted that is only 1 person but it must be bad because he is probably going to switch to AT&T.
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I agree that sprint has horrible 3g speeds, but I would rather connect to the internet at 1 mbps than not connect at all. Just got back from the mall, and tried to get internet there many times today but couldn't because the networks must fail easiley with many people on them. I have ran into these situations 6 or 7 times over the past 2 days and it is starting to get really annoying. Sprints 4g is about 1 or 2 mbps faster than att's hspa+, and the only times I have troubble getting it inside is if it is a multiple story building your in and you are on the bottom story. And you cant beat unlimited data messages and roamiing. Oh well enoygh complaining about att, guess ill tough it out for the last 1 1/2 years of my contract
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I just don't get how people can use that much data "without tethering". I tried my best one month to watch YouTube and listen to Pandora for as long as possible, I only used a little over 1G.
I might be strange for some people but I prefer to watch Netflix on my 50" LCD with DTS surround sound instead of 4.5" screen with stereo headphone.
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I just don't get how people can use that much data "without tethering". I tried my best one month to watch YouTube and listen to Pandora for as long as possible, I only used a little over 1G.
I might be strange for some people but I prefer to watch Netflix on my 50" LCD with DTS surround sound instead of 4.5" screen with stereo headphone.
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So you're home 100% of the time?
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I just don't get how people can use that much data "without tethering". I tried my best one month to watch YouTube and listen to Pandora for as long as possible, I only used a little over 1G.
I might be strange for some people but I prefer to watch Netflix on my 50" LCD with DTS surround sound instead of 4.5" screen with stereo headphone.
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Brother I'm with you. Do they have a bit torrent pr0n client or something ?
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I just don't get how people can use that much data "without tethering". I tried my best one month to watch YouTube and listen to Pandora for as long as possible, I only used a little over 1G.
I might be strange for some people but I prefer to watch Netflix on my 50" LCD with DTS surround sound instead of 4.5" screen with stereo headphone.
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I am never at home, and I watch a lot of hockey games live on the phone, as well as on the phone constantly watching youtube and other sites, pretty much live on the phone, and I am hoping they start to offer some 10gig plans soon instead of the 6 gig plans that they max out at here.
I never tether, and rarely download, just the odd song or two here and there and apps, but media consumption like streaming video is a huge part of my phone experience and I need a data plan to allow for this important use for me.
So AT&T announces that throttling would start October 1. Vivid wasn't released until after that date. Before signing a new contract, people already knew they could be throttled. It's been stated many times before, you still get unlimited. Nothing in the contract states at what speed you are to get your unlimited data.
I work at a place that has wifi. I have wifi at home. My phone connects to many of the free wifi places around where I live. I still manage to stay below 2GBs. I am still under the unlimited plan and have not been throttled. I stream Pandora, watch YouTube, and stream Netflix.
This Vivid forum is starting to fill up with complaints and nothing relevant to the phone itself. I would return this phone not because I can't unlock the bootloader, but just so I don't have to keep seeing so many threads with people ranting.
Dude, I use Netflix and Mt dish vip922 sling and i average 6gb a month
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Oh well, I use Skype video calling outdoors, YouTube, internet radio in my car, exactly the same things I used on my old HSPA Atrix, but now I got the message at 1.8GB, while before never got anything and I topped 4GB. How am I a data hog?
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I was a bit confused as to whether I should create this thread under troubleshooting, or general, but decided on general since I'm not really looking to troubleshoot my device anymore; just looking to get thoughts and opinions.
After Google failing to put my order through for a long, frustrating week, I finally managed to place a successful order through. A pleasant surprise was when the phone shipped in one day instead of the 1-2 weeks the google store claimed.
So when I got the phone, I immediately did some basic testing (speakers, calls, internet, wifi, bluetooth, camera, etc), and when I was satisfied enough, updated it to 4.2.2 and unlocked the bootloader, flashed a custom recovery and rooted it. Then I got around to really using it.
When I was copying my music over (and I'm a music fanatic), I used up 10gb of the 12gb available. Why on earth would Google give us such low storage and omit an external slot? I knew about this before I bought the phone, but I think it really hit home when I copied my data over. I've read that it's because they want to push their cloud, but without truly unlimited network internet, that point is moot. Not to mention the fact that it's not capable of more than H+, so that's another point that counters constant cloud usage.
So I thought what the hell, slow internet (getting ~1mbps vs ~12mbps on my previous T989), low storage, I'll live with it. I'll change my habits and live with it, maybe swap music out according to my daily mood, and try to be on wifi most of the time.
And then the really big bad thing happened. When i was talking to a friend via bluetooth, I was fiddling with my phone trying to google something, and the internet wasn't working. I toggled wifi off and it was working on 3G/H+. So I reconnected WiFi and Bluetooth disconnected. After replicating a few times, I realized that if you're on wifi and in an active call, internet via wifi won't work at all. This killed the conversations I was having on FB, Google Talk and Whatsapp.
Had I not already been frustrated with the phone's storage and internet, I might have worked harder on trying to find a solution, but I'd had enough. I called a friend and handed the phone over to him, and he'll hand over his used but mint-condition S3 this evening when he's had a chance to copy his data over. The S3's a decent phone, and it's solving all three of my current major issues.
Since the speed and storage are clearly marked, I'm just going to say I was stupid in not really realizing these things before I went "ooh, shiny!!", but that wifi/bluetooth bug seems to have been a persistent problem for a while now, a well-reported bug.
Anyway, I just had to rant a bit. What are your short or long-lived experiences with this device?
The only reason I would trade it for an s3 is to sell the s3 on ebay and then buy another nexus 4 with some money left over.
Sorry you didn't like it. Hope you have a better experience with your new phone!
Ive owned every nexus phone and this one by far is my favorite. Absolutely love it an havnt had a single issue with it. I do agree that i wish they gave the phone more storage but ill never use up 16 gb anyway
I had a note 2 and like it a lot, I had a gs3 before that, but I lie stock Android look and and cm10 always end up having some sort of bug, storage wise I'm not too happy but j realize I don't listen to all my 10gb of music so I keep only 2-3gb, I do play games but at the same time I don't play all, I try to maintain all the apps I actually use, the gs3 and note 2 does take better pictures tho, but the gs3 doesn't feel as snappy as the note 2 and the note 2 screen is great for content but too bug for work sometimes, so far I'm happy with the nexus 4
Btw I'm guessing you still want the phone since you posted here
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I sense a lock coming.
I really do like the phone, yes. Maybe I'll get over my issues, I traded with a friend so I can get it back without an issue. We'll see.
My review, studied it, ordered it, got it, use it. "It" is good.
Why don't you upload your music to Google music and stream it? Then you can have all..
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Not sure why you are having slow internet. Wi-Fi on mine is perfect.. Hspa+ is very fast also..
This is a great phone...
I wonder how much it costs for an unlocked s3... No thanks
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The N4 isn't for non-tech enthusiasts. The vast majority of N4 owners derive great pleasure in modding their phones, improving and troubleshooting issues. That's why it's not considered or even marketed as a phone for the mass of consumers.
With that being said, the S3 is a much simpler phone, though I hate the hardware too much to say anything nice about it.
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Same. I never understood the point of these `I need to hear myself talk' threads.
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Why don't you upload your music to Google music and stream it? Then you can have all..
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Not sure why you are having slow internet. Wi-Fi on mine is perfect.. Hspa+ is very fast also..
This is a great phone...
I wonder how much it costs for an unlocked s3... No thanks
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The slow internet could just be because I don't get good Tmobile coverage everywhere, but the T989 still gave me ~12+ in the areas the N4 gives me ~.8-1.2mbps. I've found a possible workaround here on xda for the biggest issue I have (the bluetooth/wifi issue), it has to do with buggy Qualcomm drivers. I'll test it out. As for constant music streaming, it would kill my 2gb 4G limit in a week, after which they'll push me down to edge for the remainder of the month.
And yes, the S3s pricier, I'd never consider it if I wasn't getting it in an even trade.
Thanks for the replies and feedback guys, you're making me want to go get it back from my friend. It is no doubt a great phone. Now going back to work, my boss won't be too pleased!
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Same. I never understood the point of these `I need to hear myself talk' threads.
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The main reason for my wanting to create this thread wasn't to "hear myself talk", but to share my thoughts and experiences with enthusiasts who have the same device, and to hear their constructive experiences and feedback.
16GB is enough more than enough for me. 2GB of music, 85-100 apps 1.6GB. I don't let pictures/video linger on local storage. Use space more efficiently.
10GB solely music is over 1,200 tracks, Jesus.
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That scared the h*** out of me!
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10GB solely music is over 1,200 tracks, Jesus.
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Exactly. I understand people love music, I do. But you even bringing up that fact that you couldnt have every song you've ever downloaded on your phone as a negative is just retarded. Im sorry. Definitely,a cool story bro. Have fun with the S3.
*side note* maybe you should post this in the S3 forum. I never got why people make threads in the phone section that they are getting rid of as like a final "screw you" to the phone. Just sayin..
Ummm.... What's the point of this thread again ?
O ya there is none...
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Maybe should have thought of storage issues before buying the phone?
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I realized that if you're on wifi and in an active call, internet via wifi won't work at all. This killed the conversations I was having on FB, Google Talk and Whatsapp.
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is it really true ??? problm with all N4 devices or specifically yours ??
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is it really true ??? problm with all N4 devices or specifically yours ??
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Not true. I just called TD Banks phone banking number and checked my account balance while flipping over and browsing CNN.com in chrome at the same time (while on wifi)
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Not true. I just called TD Banks phone banking number and checked my account balance while flipping over and browsing CNN.com in chrome at the same time (while on wifi)
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I'm sure I have read others with the same wifi/Bluetooth problem. Perhaps it is an issue that has been solved via recent updates?
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