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AT&T Tilt touchscreen sux compared to 8125! :(

Ok so I was enjoying my new Tilt, and then today I took both the Tilt and the 8125 outside. What the hell?
The 8125 has what I hear some call a "transflective" property, meaning it reflects light and you can see it decently even in direct sunlight.
But this stoopid Tilt doesn't! This is some BS, and I'm kinda ticked off about it now. I can hardly read the Tilt in direct sunlight, while the 8125 remains easy to see dial buttons and start menu options.
Are the screens interchangeable? Would it just be easier to swap out an 8125 screen with the Tilt's? do they use the same connectors and are they compatible? I mean this REALLY sucks big time

I agree with you, this sux in the tilt compared to my previous 8125, but, the tilt has many other advantages that i don't need to take a second thought to tell the tilt is THE one for me

I'm not giving up my Tilt, I just want to know if I can switch the screens. ???
I would try it myself but I don't want to fry a nearly 500 dollar phone until someone who knows more than I do about both phones chimes in.

no they are no the same size there for you can not just swap them out
the kaisers screen is a bit larger

I have them both right here in front of me, and they measure out to be the same size. Same as 8525, too. Size is not the issue, compatible voltage and connectors is.

Call the guys at Pocket PC Techs and ask.

Umm What kind of Phone Geek is ever in direct sunlight anyway?

liquidsilver said:
Call the guys at Pocket PC Techs and ask.
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HEY, you know what, that's a great idea They're only an hour away, so maybe they can even do the work for me so I wont have to worry about breaking anything
JimmyMcGee said:
Umm What kind of Phone Geek is ever in direct sunlight anyway?
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Oh nonsense lol... I have a very active lifestyle, and PocketPC phones cover a lot of options on the go

Flip the phone over to ignore the caller

I saw a video, where a guy flip the phone over (face down) and the caller was ignored, I also saw that when he turn the phone side ways the screen will automatic adjust itself. Are these two things I saw true, if so I can't can't until At&t pick this up or the Diamond pro (what I really want)

They are true...although not all of the programs will change into a landscape mode when the phone is put on its side.

Hahaha. I didn't even know about this feature. Just tried it and it works. Very cool stuff!

mkhattab said:
Hahaha. I didn't even know about this feature. Just tried it and it works. Very cool stuff!
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what feature are you speaking about, "the flip the phone on it's face to ignore the call" or "when you turn rotate the phone the phone automatic adjust."

gsessons said:
what feature are you speaking about, "the flip the phone on it's face to ignore the call" or "when you turn rotate the phone the phone automatic adjust."
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Flip to ignore caller

now I'm mad, I want it so bad and I have to wait before it come to the usa to At&t........ Thank You for comfirming that, I know you are loving you phone right now.Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!

gsessons said:
now I'm mad, I want it so bad and I have to wait before it come to the usa to At&t........ Thank You for comfirming that, I know you are loving you phone right now.Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!
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Hahaha. I am absolutely loving it. Can't you order it from somewhere else? I had ordered mine from eXpansys Hong Kong but then I found it in the local market yesterday so I cancelled my order

honestly I do want it badly but if I pay for one I really want to wait for the Pro, plus if AT&T recieve's them I will get it alot cheaper then any where... The bad part of it I have to wait for it......So I guess that I'm really paying for it in the long run. But I know it will be worth the wait.....Just like Christmas

I suppose that it should be noted that the 'flip to ignore' thing doesn't actually reject the call - it just mutes the ringtone. That way, you don't loose any friends...

Dark Fire said:
I suppose that it should be noted that the 'flip to ignore' thing doesn't actually reject the call - it just mutes the ringtone. That way, you don't loose any friends...
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You deserve a pat on the back for that one........Nice conclusion

i had no idea about this feature either, its sweet!.

Calibrate G-Sensor

Hi!!
Does anyone know a possibiliy to calibrate the G-Sensor? Mine drifts to the lower right :-(
Thank you

this has been brought up on quite a few occasions on different threads... do a search! but as far as im aware there is currently no way to calibrate the sensor.

i want to do the calibration also! hope there will be some solution!

casekiller said:
i want to do the calibration also! hope there will be some solution!
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QUOTE.....

At the moment there is no way to calibrate the sensor...
thats the reason why I send my Diamond back....

everyone saying there sensor is not calibrated right, did you try it without the back cover?
cause when i remove the back cover and play teeter and put the diamond on a flat surface the ball stands still.
If i have the back cover on in rolls to the left side/bottom (if you turn it 90°)
Remember the back cover is not flat!

Jip I know that the back cover is not flat...
but even without cover (on a flat table) the teeter ball doesn´t stand still....

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Jip I know that the back cover is not flat...
but even without cover (on a flat table) the teeter ball doesn´t stand still....
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QUOTE SOB

Andrea_f said:
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QUOTE!
is impossible that there is no way to recalibrate !

No problems with mine?
If the sensor causes the teeter ball to move ever so slightly to any side... why on earth would you send your phone back????
Whats wrong with ever to slightly tilting it the other way? Do you play teeter 24 hours a day?
Why would this issue even cause you a problem, right now theres only teeter that uses minute movements. the other apps, gsensor, etc etc, all use large shakes and tilts so these would all work even if your sensor is a tiny bit off..
Pathetic that you would send this awesome phone back simply becuz of a small issue that hardly affects anything!!

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No problems with mine?
Pathetic that you would send this awesome phone back simply becuz of a small issue that hardly affects anything!!
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In my opinion.. If you pay this amount of money for a device like this.. you may expect that everything in/on the device works as it is supposed to.
I have the same problem but at this moment I don't want to send it away for a few weeks.. so i'll wait to see if there will be another solution soon.
sad to see (my opinion) that everybody with a different opinion as yours is immediately pathetic. just because they like to have value for money

®ichard said:
In my opinion.. If you pay this amount of money for a device like this.. you may expect that everything in/on the device works as it is supposed to.
I have the same problem but at this moment I don't want to send it away for a few weeks.. so i'll wait to see if there will be another solution soon.
sad to see (my opinion) that everybody with a different opinion as yours is immediately pathetic. just because they like to have value for money
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Bro,which world do we live in? whats perfect in this world? tiny bugs will always be there,right? if you are or other whingers are in this game then learn to take chances and have bit of patience,i owned almost every pda since they born and own 4 different units right now (O2 flame,treo 750,eten x800,htc diamond) they all have some kind bugs and it annoys me sometimes but i always appreciated that what kind of windows mobile we started with and where we are right now,improved so much and its going to be more and more advance in coming days,for example i have ordered eten DX900 pocket pc phone with dual simcard coming in september hopefully,something new and different introduced in windows mobile pocket pc phone world again but i am expecting many bugs in that too as eten devices are always buggier than any other ones but again i love all this and their efforts.
if some one sent their diamond back over some kind issue that shouldn't even be a matter then they deserve some crapy old nokia.
sorry in advance if i hurt some one's feeling here
cheers

Mine is having this g-sensor issue as well.
I'll be sending it back for repair/service once I get my hands on an iPhone 3G.
If you ask me, anything that's functioning out of specification is something that can be and to be fixed. Doesn't matter what it is. It's simply is a function/feature that you paid for, so why would you pay for it to function "improperly"?

But right now, whats the gsensor been off slightly, actually affecting? You cannot play teeter? all the other apps that are coming out, dont need a super accurate g sensor to work..
that shake to switch profile program, doesnt need super accurate gsensor. same with other small apps like this.
same with the turn over to mute feature.
So no point in sending it back untill its broke to the extent you cannot use it.

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But right now, whats the gsensor been off slightly, actually affecting? You cannot play teeter? all the other apps that are coming out, dont need a super accurate g sensor to work..
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If you cared to actually read what people wrote about issue, it causes spurious switches from/to landscape mode when its not actually desired. I think its actually an issue warranting fix.

Hmmm.
Well i guess the sensor isnt just mis-aligned.. its totally broke. for it to think your tipping the phone sideways and not upright, its not misaligned... your right this does warrant a fix. But this thread is about re-aligning the sensor due to it drifting to the lower right. OP did not state its flipping his screen..

in tweeter i have to tilt my device 20 degrees upwards beofre the ball stops rolling. So the sensor is really off by a large amount, i could live with a couple degrees but this is ridiculous.

Same at my (ex) diamond...
also my diamond had few more problems... so G-Sensor is only one point why I sent it back...

Ok i could be wrong, cause i have the x7500, but for me it recalibrate (current position is 0 degrees) everytime i open up Pocket IE so maybe try laying your phone down on a flat surface and restarting the phone

u SHOULD send it back. i got my Diamond totally replaced. it may be a small issue now, but when new stuff is developed for the G-sensor, then u'll start cursing

Removed both cameras!

I removed both cameras on the first day I got my Diamond. I've been looking through the service manual before and felt primed.
Beforehand I want to tell you I did this already to my Magician and my Hermes - easy like swinging compared to the following.
After nearly 2h everything was put together again (I spare you the dirty and sweaty details). Before I switched on again I already thought about posting here something like "don't do it... it's cumbersome". Ok, then I switched on.
Booting up just fine . Since I touched those sensitive antennae cables I tried my SIM-PIN, works. WLAN & BT, works. Navi (GPS) no signal!
During the next tremulous 4h I tried "everything". Cutting it short: there was a conducting patch grounding the GPS antenna cable . I pushed that cable 5nm (there's actually no room left within the housing - as long as the cameras are still in) below and it all worked again.
To sum it up: don't do it! I mean it: DON'T DO IT. If you're a reckless person - seek some other "joy".
Why am I posting in ROM dev.: Maybe someone has too much time and wants to save me some storage space and wants to cook me a ROM without camera stuff OR someone is in need of a tester for special software (e.g. 1st torch software for Magician needed the camera, my own software later on didn't need a camera and was much more lean and fast).
PS: If you still wonder why I actually did that -> company policy.

Dont know if i should laugh or cry... or go to bed -.-

Couldn't you just spray paint over the camera lenses or put scotch tape on them?

I don't know what to say... other than WTF!

@techdave: You'll be asked "R U carrying a camera-cellphone with U?" at the plant entrance. If the camera is "only" blinded they could get nitpicking and say there still is a camera. But I can "lordly" answer "No".

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@techdave: You'll be asked "R U carrying a camera-cellphone with U?" at the plant entrance. If the camera is "only" blinded they could get nitpicking and say there still is a camera. But I can "lordly" answer "No".
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but now you can reply, no i have fully maimed my thousand dollar smartphone in honour of this company!

Wow, extreme measures!

racerx_ said:
but now you can reply, no i have fully maimed my thousand dollar smartphone in honour of this company!
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Haha only temporarily, he can put them back when he quits because he gets sick of a Diamond with no camera.

@racerx_: Don't exaggerate. It's neither that expensive nor is it maimed (luckily). There's been always little use for these cheap CMOS sensors for me.

hey, do your company guards know that you can bring your cameras in separate pocket and then reassemble it back at the facility? ;-)

Carrying the cameras would violate company policies itself - no matter whether in conjunction with a suitable device or not. Technically you'd also bring a USB-Cam, LAN-Cam and whatever cam.
I've got nothing more than a usual cell phone with added holes. Would this be violating? Almost every cell phone has got bluetooth capability. So what about bluetooth cams? Ooops. Is every (BT-)phone now violating the above policy?

What are you on man? Whatever it is its kicking in awesome.

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Carrying the cameras would violate company policies itself - no matter whether in conjunction with a suitable device or not. Technically you'd also bring a USB-Cam, LAN-Cam and whatever cam.
I've got nothing more than a usual cell phone with added holes. Would this be violating? Almost every cell phone has got bluetooth capability. So what about bluetooth cams? Ooops. Is every (BT-)phone now violating the above policy?
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I guess the policy is not to carry cameras, otherwise the policy would probably have been not to carry any communication device. Carrying a device with holes but with no camera's would be acceptable then. If not, you'd also have to remove the BT and the WiFi, since there are probably cameras out there that can communicate with BT or WiFi. If you are going to remove that, please take pictures (if you still can without the camera)? LOL
How did you move the GPS grounding cable a stunning distance of 5 nm? Is that cable fixed enough not to vibrate back while using the device?
I must say, I should go to sleep, did not cry, but felt a joy while reading your thread. Nice one! Thanx

Can we put a third camera on Diamond ?

Some pictures pls! Thanks!

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...there are probably cameras out there that can communicate with BT or WiFi.
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That was my argument already! If BT and/or Wifi are allowed, then should be mine as well.
drvdijk said:
How did you move the GPS grounding cable a stunning distance of 5 nm? Is that cable fixed enough not to vibrate back while using the device?
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Well, 5nm were of course disproportionate. But yes, the cable is bendable. Although I wouldn't push it more than needed. Till now it didn't resume position because my device still knows where it is (although I don't know all the time).
drvdijk said:
I must say, I should go to sleep, did not cry, but felt a joy while reading your thread. Nice one! Thanx
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Great. Let's see in a 1-2 years when I'm disassembling the brand new HTC [disclosed]... :-D
panosha said:
Can we put a third camera on Diamond ?
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Where would you wanna do that? On the side? Two next to each other for stereography?
GSeeker said:
Some pictures pls! Thanks!
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I'll see what I can do. But I'm not gonna dismantle my baby again (unless I'm forced to).

I would be lucky if we were allowed to use phones with *removed* cameras. We have to prove, that it was a cameraless device from the beginning (like in: go to shop, buy without camera). Not sure if there's a official (i.e. AT&T) version of the diamond without camera.
(oh, and I regularly disassemble my smartphones when they get sick, nothing to worry about)

i demand pictures! ...so where do you work? BAHAHHA

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I would be lucky if we were allowed to use phones with *removed* cameras. We have to prove, that it was a cameraless device from the beginning (like in: go to shop, buy without camera). Not sure if there's a official (i.e. AT&T) version of the diamond without camera.
(oh, and I regularly disassemble my smartphones when they get sick, nothing to worry about)
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Yea, AT&T sells the Fuze with no camera. I guess you have to buy it through the business site or via phone though...

bigb252 said:
Yea, AT&T sells the Fuze with no camera. I guess you have to buy it through the business site or via phone though...
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which is exactly where I can't get from germany But at least there's a minimal chance then on the bay

Yeah! The Ultimate!!

Now this is a classic...
Bought one just for a laugh but got shocked as its full touch screen, SMS, MMS email, MP3 and lots of accessory progs.
BT headset included, stereo headset, open headset connector (for your own) USB cable and mini cable charger!!
Just looks a joke on your wrist but strangly harkens back to the size of the old Cambridge LED watches!!
Just glad the bloke on the box lid was not included also!!!

How much did you pay for it?

In UAE DHS599
USD 163 and change at present ex.
OK it may be expensive BUT!! Really good joke (and if packaged better would not be!!)
Extra un-cool at the moment...

Farsquidge said:
In UAE DHS599
USD 163 and change at present ex.
OK it may be expensive BUT!! Really good joke (and if packaged better would not be!!)
Extra un-cool at the moment...
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At the moment?
This is like the future of the old calculator watches kids would wear back in school that always had the correct answers for our math quizzes !

Has a calculator on it and it seems to give the correct answers!
Its only un-cool cause it dunt have TF3D and drivers rolleyes but a really great gadget to have...
BTW, it does work on your wrist as a full touch screen voice phone without the BT or wired headset!
It has an internal mike and speaker!!
Thunderbirds ARE GO!!!

OH THIS IS TOO MUCH!!
It has HANDWRITING recognition!! (OK you can only fit one letter at a time on the screen but HEY!!)
What else can this do??
Playing....

Hahaha that's awesome, too bad it's only triband.

Farsquidge said:
OH THIS IS TOO MUCH!!
It has HANDWRITING recognition!! (OK you can only fit one letter at a time on the screen but HEY!!)
What else can this do??
Playing....
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What on earth provoked you to buy this?
And where did you find it?

This is begining to sound like a gadget from a James Bond movie...LOL

TheChampJT said:
What on earth provoked you to buy this?
And where did you find it?
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I was strolling around the Marina Mall here in Abu Dhabi and noticed it in a shop window thought "I have gotta try this out". My son and I try to outdo each other with stupid Christmas presents.
I have a feeling he won't get this one.

That's a sexy chain bracelet. (Don't worry I noticed the cool watch phone too lol) Mind telling me where you got it from? Looks nice. The chain bracelet I mean.

Kraize92 said:
That's a sexy chain bracelet. (Don't worry I noticed the cool watch phone too lol) Mind telling me where you got it from? Looks nice. The chain bracelet I mean.
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Hey, you'll get flamed for going off topic!
Small jewellers in York, England. Can't rmember the name as it was 15 years ago.
Anyway, List of stuff I have found sofar on the gadget...
Tri-Band phone 900/1800/1900
IP phone via Data connection
SMS (with Chat function) , MMS, Email
MP3 and MP4 video playback.
Trans-Flash MicroSD to 8Gb
Handwriting recognition
Bluetooth Headset (micro)
Small stylus hidden in strap (took ages to find)
Software.
Image viewer
Video Player
Audio Player
Sound Recorder
File Manager
Calendar
Memo
Alarm
Calculator
Unit converter
Currency converter
Health manager
Ebook reader.
Hardware.
Micro BT earpiece with USB charging cable
USB to custom connector for PC and charging
Plug-size USB charger
Wired stereo headset
Custom 3.5mm headset cable
2 batteries (unsure of battery life as yet but still fully charged after standby overnight).
OH and it works as a wristwatch!!

Holy crap! Is that two batteries stacked in the picture or just one? Cause if it's one, it looks HUGE! D:

Kraize92 said:
Holy crap! Is that two batteries stacked in the picture or just one? Cause if it's one, it looks HUGE! D:
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Just one.
The batteries are about 7.5mm thick but sit recessed into the back of the watch when attached.
The whole thing is 20mm thick at widest section down to 15mm at center.
Never said it was pretty!

I want one of those "kitsh" watch/Phone or wheatever it´s called!
Amazing!

Found this in the documentation if you know any shop that wants to import a few.
http://www.dgmarble.com/english/index.asp
I am sure they won't come under the Qualcomm ban on import tech.

Farsquidge said:
Found this in the documentation if you know any shop that wants to import a few.
http://www.dgmarble.com/english/index.asp
I am sure they won't come under the Qualcomm ban on import tech.
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Thanks!
I{ll try to contact them and see the options
Cheers,

orb3000 said:
Thanks!
I{ll try to contact them and see the options
Cheers,
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Failing that, I could have a talk to the shop I got mine from. They are pretty good around here and may do a mail delivery for you if you wish.
Problem with that is returns.. Cheap Chinese gear tends to have a bad Quality Control and some do not work 'out of the box'.
Best let some retailer take that so your returns are close.
Mine had a faulty microSD but the cheap cost of them now meant I didn't bother with a return.
FYI, I find this to be ideal for in the gym or out cycling.
I just forward my calls to it from the Touch Pro and can instantly see who is calling (my call forwarding passes caller info) and answer without breaking stride!!
People just think its a heart monitor at my age..

Found better looking one with a built in camera from a supplier in the States!
http://www.greatestsale.com/Cell-Phone-Watch-with-Built-in-Camera-m810-Products-2258307.html
I have to laugh at what I am finding on these units...
Skip free excellent A2DP playback and handsfree... even connected to my Infiniti BT with no problem.
In functionality they can put HTC to shame..

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Found better looking one with a built in camera from a supplier in the States!
http://www.greatestsale.com/Cell-Phone-Watch-with-Built-in-Camera-m810-Products-2258307.html
I have to laugh at what I am finding on these units...
Skip free excellent A2DP playback and handsfree... even connected to my Infiniti BT with no problem.
In functionality they can put HTC to shame..
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Thanks a lot!
This is much closer to my country so I will give it a try
Cheers,