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My shiny new XDA2s arrived today and now its time to get down to business. For me, this involves two things:
1. Unlock the d*mn thing (may not be as easy as it was for the old XDA2)
2. Strip out all the unnecessary O2 stuff that may get in the way being as that I'm on Orange.
I've not seen any posts here yet where people actually get into what file is for what on this baby, so if you have and idea, please clue us all in!
Just to be clear, we're talking about the new new XDA2s (i.e. Blue Angel)
Thanks
hope this helps
and this
Excellent, but I don't think the xda2unlocker works on the new XDA2s does it?
what does "UKORGCustomize.CAB" do ?????
Yep more info guys would be helpfull thanks you.
re files: it's more fun putting stuff on your phone when you don't know what it is!!!!!!!ORGUK is orange customization, i put it on mine, think it's GRASS screen, back-up, update.
hahah yea that can be fun, but it wont be fun to hard reset and reinstall everything... maybe if i was in highschool with nothing else better to dooooo
but by making mistakes you learn more. i know how to flash phone really easy now. life is too short, experiment!!!!!
yes yes i learned how to flash it too after 10 minutes but STILL, there are some damages (software-wise) that will screw up your phone so bad you wont be able to re-flash it...
anyone with the UK xda2s can post the Extended ROM cab files please?
thanks
XDA2s Extended Rom
John
xda2 s suck's
after using xda2,
i found xda 2s,
verry bad like the screen its i think 50% dull than the xda2
and the jabra bluetoot which worked fine with xda2 dosen't work well with 2s lot of hissing,
i am really unhappy with the screen quality,
so guy's and gal's stick to xda2 and pray that xda3 will have a crisp and clear screen and the bluetoot will work fine,
I agree with jaykumarr, the Blue Angel in it's present configuration is a lemon.
The only advantages being a slide out keyboard which I can live without and a wifi connection, which with the number of open wifi networks around can be handy.
The disadvantages being almost too many to mention - eg. poor sound quality, bluetooth doesn't work properly, poor screen, button lock unlocks when the os enlivens on any event, etc, etc.
sleepnow et al,
I really like the black enclosure of the XDA IIs over the the PDA2k or MDA III, but don't want to be tied down to the O2 ROM. In my case, I'd like to take an XDA IIs and:
1. Unlock it
2. Install either the MDA III T-Mobile ROM, or the PDA2k ROM.
Please keep us posted as to your progress, as it seems what you're trying to do here is similar.
I downloaded O2 extrom and put it in storage on my MDAIII . Did hard reset and soft reset before t-mobile etxrom loaded, then manually installed o2 extrom. I now have O2 XDAIIs, but with silver case :-(
Someone else who doesn't like the O2 software but likes the black case!
I've sat and played with the extended rom, on a IIs. Hard reset the thing, and then stopped the auto install and then run each of the cabs by itself to see what it does. I've got most of them, but not all of them.
Below is what I've got so far. Any mistakes, or additions let me know please.
Thanks
TPDisable
Disables the touch screen while everything gets installed I think.
BA_Album_WWE (Install this one)
Album application, allows you to view pictures, Listen to MIDI files, view video clips….
BA_callerID_wwe (Personal choice)
The photo contacts application.
BA_MIDI561 (Install this one)
Allows the device to use MIDI files for Ringtones.
BA_OEM_PA_Remove_WiFi_Logo_wwe.sa (need to check what it does)
BA_OEM_PD_BT_Headset.sa (Patch for bluetooth)
Typical brand new device and it has patches already.
BA_Version_112.sa (Not needed)
Sets the version number of the build
BA_cm_rm_map_o2_v3 (Not needed)
No idea, I can’t find anything it does
ClearVue2.4.386_WWE (Install this one)
PDF and Power Point viewer
Java_V10.1.2.49_BA_WWE_0901_unremovable (Install this one)
The MIDlet manager application
MMS_v2.0.0.13_BA_1.sa (Install this one)
The MMS application. Without this you can’t use MMS.
VideoMMSB12_BA.sa (personal choice)
Video MMS application.
LoadDialogInit_MS_10150402.sa (Not needed)
No idea, I can’t find anything it does
O2UK_AP_09212004_BA_1.sa (Install this one)
Sets up your MMS.
O2UK_Button9_WWE.sa (Not needed)
Adds a shortcut to the O2 button on the slide out keypad.
O2UK_ConnectionSetting.sa (Install this one)
Sets up all the GPRS for O2.
O2UK_Hide_WLan_manager.sa (Not needed)
Hides the W when you connect by WiFi.
O2UK_PIE_homepage.sa (Not needed)
Sets the homepage for Pocket Internet Explorer.
O2UK_Regional_TimeZone.sa (Not Needed)
Sets the time zone, and regional setting.
O2UK_RingTone.sa (Not Needed)
Adds the O2 ringtone.
TPEnable (Not Needed)
Turn the touch screen back on
O2UK_install.ARM (Not Needed)
The O2 active user Interface. Causes a reboot!
XDA2s ROM and Radio upgrade files
Can anyone post the latest ROM and Radio upgrade files for the XDA2s.....Please
I have a feeling that:
BA_cm_rm_map_o2_v3
Installs something that autocompletes the phone number/email of a contact when you start typing their name into the "To:" field of a text message/email.
At least, I upgraded my XDA IIs to the newer i-Mate ROM and it stopped doing this (although the new ROM means that pressing the message hard button no longer always brings up Outlook Mail - yay!). Installed that .cab from the O2 extended ROM, reset, and it started autocompleting names again.
If someone else could confirm that's what that cab does it'd be appreciated.
Chris.
Hello,
Does anybody know what these do
CallerIDB32_Hima2_WWE.cab
HTC_PocketPC_1.2.4.19_02_england.cab
OEM_WWE_04071402.cab
O2UK_AP_09212004_HIMA_1.sa.cab
Broadcast_WWE.sa.CAB
O2_UK.sa.cab
OEM_O2_MENU.sa.cab
CameraRC10_Streaming_reg.cab (there was other cab that was the camera app this is something different)
6inone.cab
dtac.cab
O2.cab
bluetooth.cab
startmenu_103.cab
version.sa.cab
hallo together,
how can you remove the branding on htc charmer ( mda compact II)
thanks
Make a new .doc file in Pocket Word and write: "--remove:brand -os:wm5" save that file. Soft restart, and it should work.
Read wiki
Cheers,
vlodeck.
i konw hoe i remove the branding on htc magician but dont know on htc charmer. i looked wiki but not found the informatin abaut removing the branding.
thanks you
is it function?
just make a new doc file? is it work?
somebody answered as below, but i didnt test it yet. next week i get a htc charmer than i test it.
hi,
do you mean the software branding or branding of the phone's case? smiling smiley
SW branding can be removed, if you don't install extended ROM content upon hardreset.
When you see that customization starts installing, just reset the phone.
that's it.
buzz
mikecarlone said:
somebody answered as below, but i didnt test it yet. next week i get a htc charmer than i test it.
hi,
do you mean the software branding or branding of the phone's case? smiling smiley
SW branding can be removed, if you don't install extended ROM content upon hardreset.
When you see that customization starts installing, just reset the phone.
that's it.
buzz
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Pretty much all the T-Mobile branding is included in the ROM so skipping the extended rom wouldnt achieve very much.
Hi everyone, I am new to windows mobile, phones. Can anyone help guide me to information on installing software on the device, I have found and downloaded the TomTom 6 taster, file name ttn_6_032_HTCWWE_Kaiser.cab. but then i try to install on the device i get the following error message......unable to install application. Please update your device rom to the required version before trying again.
I Have also succesfully installed iPhone_Version1.cab and the netcf.core.ppc3.arm.cab but when i try to run iPhone the error message A Managed file not found exception occured at error::WinIOerror+0x60 .
All the help anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated....
I look forward to receiving some replies.
My Device System details are:
Phone supplied by O2 UK
Rom version 1.82.206.1 WWE
Rom Date 10/04/07
Radio Version 1.27.12.29
Protocol Version 22.45.88.07H
Please spend time reading this section of the forum!
than use this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
to hardspl and update your radio and "This tool will allow you to change the ROM language, flash cooked ROMs, custom splash screens, etc..."
than find suitable rom to upgrade your rom from kasier upgrading section
Good luck
Tunc
I'll think you'll find there is something encoded into the o2 standard ROM to prevent this working. I got the same thing when trying to install GPRS monitor (comes free on the o2 apps CD). I was trying to install the older version that I'd had on my HTC Universal (o2 Executive) since WM5 days so it can't be that the ROM is out of date since it worked on a 2+ year old ROM and later a WM6 ROM from the Universal section. Once I tried installing the GPRS monitor that came with the Stellar it was fine (same program wierdly, not sure about the version number).
Not sure if this helps in any way, but o2 may have got something on their ROM that prevents certain programs from loading, since they are pushing Co-Pilot it may be that they don't want you loading up TomTom. If you think this shouldn't be the case, just look at the way most Nokia's don't play well with other manufacturers bluetooth equipment, Nokia went and made the open bluetooth standard kinda proprietary, so why not o2 with their entire OS?!
I got TomTom to work, I think it as 6.030 rather than 6.032...will play around with it...but it does wor.
Anyway I had to do a hard reset and that package now says wrong ROM servsion or some thing.
Also, there are 3 icon on the bottom right hand corner, is this that taskbar?
If so does anyone know how to remove it or maybe add more icons to it?
thanks
hi i have sort of got the tom tom to work the application opens ok, but it cant find a sat, signal. has anyone any ideas
roks said:
there are 3 icon on the bottom right hand corner, is this that taskbar?
If so does anyone know how to remove it or maybe add more icons to it?
thanks
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Yes it's the task bar. I have no idea how to remove it ( I did this once with my old HTC phone and do you think I can find the instructions on this site as to how to do it?! ). If you search on HTC home or HTC homeplug, it should give you loads of posts about how people have added more to it. Personally I want rid just to get the extra screen space, so if you find out, please share!
For the GPS thing, make sure you are either outside, or near a window, it can take a while for that first fix. Is there a GPS status page on TomTom? If so, are you getting a signal from the GPS, just no satalite lock, or not even getting a signal?
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
chimpsinties said:
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
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orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!
Hi.,
I've Recently Bought The HTC Pure And I Have A Couple Of General Questions., The Pure Being My Firts WM Device. Sorry If The Questions Are More Than Simple.
1; How Do I Perform A Back-Up? (*So I Can Go Back To All Settings That Came From Att.,I Dnt Wanna Mess It Up)
2;What Are The Differences In ROMs?
3; I Know My ROM Version; But How Can I Tell If Its Stock?
4;I've Seen Many Forums, That Talk About Manila Versions; How Do I Know Which One I Have?
5; I'd Like To Customize My Phone; But I've Seen There Are A Lot Of Programs To Be Downloaded & I Wanted To Know If There Was Any Risk Involved In Doing So.
I Think That's It For Now; Im Sorry If These Questions Have Been Asked Before., Thanks In Advance.
→FYI;; Im Not Using The TouchFlo2D Interface; Im Using Windows Default; The ROM Version Is: 2.31.502.4.,
WM 6.5 Proffessional.
Anything Else I Need To Know About The Specs Of My Pure Just Let Me Know, Thanks.
I'm gonna point you to the link in my sig, "Inman's Start to Finish" which is a different forum, but it breaks things down to a pretty basic level.
To briefly respond to your questions;
1. You can back up PIM Data (Contacts, Calendar, E-mails and Texts) with M$ MyPhone. For full system backups you need a backup program such as SPB Backup or Sprite.
2. ROMs vary by build#, WM Version and chef, 21XXX ROMS have the start menu button on the top left, 23XXX ROMs have the bottom left start menu button. To ask which ROM is best is like going to the bar and asking what beer is the best, so don't ask.
3. Go to bootlaoder mode (tri-colored screen) by soft restting your phone with your stylus while holding the Volume Down button. Do another SR to get back to Windows. If your SPL version has "Olinex" as a suffix, you're probably on a custom ROM.
If you have all of the AT$T bloatware, you're on stock ROM, also looking at your device info\software in settings should tell you.
4. Manila is TF3D, if you have a programs tab - you're on 2.1, if you have programs icons on your home screen - you're on 2.5. the build number can also be found in device info.
5. Generally, if its a theme or something that interfaces with your home screen, you install to device, games and other apps can be installed to SD Card. If you backup your data, there is no risk, however you have to read about HSPL and flashing ROMs before attempting that, or you could potentially brick your phone.
Again, take some time to read the my guides in the link in my sig and you'll understand alot more.
Peace!