I just got my Diamond back from repairs and wanted to compare experiences:
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I first bought a Diamond two months ago. It came with 1.37 ROM series on it, the screen wasn't too yellowish, but touch function wasn't responsive and the GPS was a MESS!
(of course, I tried many ROMs official and unofficial, almost every Radio ROM and various Hard-SPL. None of that fixed the problems.)
I could cope with with the other flaws, but I just couldn't bear my GPS wasn't getting a fix, no matter how much sattelits were in view...
It worked at first, but soon started to display '66666' instead of the location and finally, it would never display any location again.
I tried every tips and tricks and softs, it helped giving me more and more satellits in view and apparently active, but at the end my crappy GPS could never turn the datas received into a proper location...
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I sent my device back to warranty (after flashing back to official ROM and SPL) and had to wait for about a month.
(the technician at first tought I was just a noob unable to set his phone properly, but after two days of attempts, he had to admit that there was something wrong with my phone and sent it to the the headquarter for replacement of motherboard and so on.
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The new phone I got came directly with 1.93 ROM and a little bit more yellowish screen, though, there is no spot or stain on it. So the coulour doesnt bother me.
But from the beginning I noticed the new phone was much more responsive even at the slightest touch.
From the first try, the GPS got a fix in about 1 mn time, with only 3-4 satelits in view.
I installed Hard-SPL and the latest Australian Official ROM, and though the screen seems now a little less responsive than before, the GPS is still working, fine.
I'm a VERY happy user of Diamond now, but I'm still wondering one thing:
it looks like once the warranty technicians understood that I was very demanding about quality and complete functions, they took time but gave me a phone totally different in terms of behaviour and quality of the components sensitivity of screen, GPS etc.
Is there some bad production series that they never tells publicly about, and much more better series that they give you as a replacement once they understand you will bother them until the end of time if you are not satsified?
Plz tell your experience about having received two new diamonds with totally different behaviour and quality of the components.
I guess you are totally right!!!
My first device was pealing paint in the aluminium frame on the second day, work very good by the way.
Now i´m on the second device and i my hardware keys, especially the call button is sometimes irresponsive and i have to push it several times to enter the dial.
Tried cooked rooms as well, and the call button issue still remains, so i´m a little unhappy with my diamond experience.
I've noticed that whenever i turn on my display after having left the diamond unused for sometime the lcd doesn't switch on smoothly, what i mean is that it first displays a grey pattern(only for a ms or so) and then the desktop( lcd off>>grey flash>>desktop). Usually the transition from off to desktop is quite smooth, but in my case its not!
Is this a s/w issue or h/w ?
I've never experienced that particular problem myself, but sounds like H/W problem to me...
just been through a couple of other threads related to the grey screen of death...i've had it once...it happened while i ended a call, had to soft reset to resolve it.
take a look at the grey screen of death i'm talking about
Pretty scary indeed!
It might not be a coincidence that you experienced both: grey transition when switching on the screen and once, the grey screen of death after a call...
Two different effects of the same defective part in your H/W?
a solution!, almost
untill now i've had auto brightness control switched off and the brightness was set to minimum to save battery life, but now i just tried switching on auto adjust backlight and the problem seems to have vanished.....coming out of standby is smooth as ever!
although i've to say that i don't quite understand the logic behind it.
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it doesn't help for long
blufade said:
a solution!, almost
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This is what I was worrying about...
Your method sounded like a work around to avoid the display failure. But as a matter of fact, there must be a reason for the display to fail. (bad screen, power supply or something...)
By the way, I'm more and more convinced about my assumption that there are bad production series and better ones:
Today I had my device connected to my PC through USB for a couple of hours. In the meantime, I was downloading and deleting messages, watching google video on opera, after that I used wifi etc.
In this situation, my first Diamond would have got hot like hell and my hand could barely stand the pain...
Since many people were complaining about over-heat problems, I thought that was a common problem with Diamond.
But the new one did not get that hot. Just a little over-warmed, but definitely not too hot. From that phenomenon, I can see what I felt about a better touch-flow behaviour, a better GPS and so on is a part of a whole:
I was first sold a ****ty phone, and now I finally got a proper Diamond!
People with bad series, you don't have to cope with all those troubles, ask for a replacement phone!
my diamond gets heated up quite a bit at times....but i dont fully uderstand what exactly is the cause.....i've had experiences with the diamond getting pretty hot while using wifi & or gps and on another occasion i was watching a DVDRIP via wifi(@ full power) using core player and also with gps cycle running in the backgroud, still the diamond stayed well within reasonable limits.
i think it has to be a software problem, possibly the radio s/w
would you mind sharing the radio version of your diamond?
As written in my signature, I'm using the 1.00.25 which is included in all latest official ROMs.
By the way, I hope you did not cast a spell on me! (just kidding)
Today I experienced my first grey screen!!!
My Diamond was connected to the PC through USB cable, downloading e-mails, and I got a phone call. When I hung the phone, It suddainly happened, for the first time in my Diamond user carreer!
Just for one second, looking like an old black and white TV screen trying to tune on channels.
Hope that was the first and last time. In ordinary calls, (without being synchronized to the PC at the same time, it never happened so far...
sorry to hear that my friend
My Diamond was connected to the PC through USB cable, downloading e-mails, and I got a phone call. When I hung the phone, It suddainly happened, for the first time in my Diamond user carreer!
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I'd the same experience except for the fact that my diamond wasn't connected to a PC.
I hard reseted my diamond yesterday, but the grey splash while i turn on the display from standby(post 3) still exists ( ......i don't suppose its a software problem anymore.
blufade said:
i don't suppose its a software problem anymore.
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Why not trying to send it back to the seller and get a new one?
This problem is easy to demonstrate to the technicians, and I don't think they will be cheeky enough to say that's a normal phenomenon!
This problem is easy to demonstrate to the technicians, and I don't think they will be cheeky enough to say that's a normal phenomenon!
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not that easy.....the thing is that if we turn on & off the lcd without a gap of atleast 4-5 min(dono exactly) i dont see that grey splash
i think im going to wait another 3-4 months before i approach for warranty.
I had that "gray splash" problem with my Kaiser and Diamond.
Hard reset also didn't work like above. For both devices the fix was simply flashing to a different (cooked) ROM.
As mentioned in another thread, the grey screen problem was fixed (as least for me when I flashed to dutty's rom)
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not that easy.....the thing is that if we turn on & off the lcd without a gap of atleast 4-5 min(dono exactly) i dont see that grey splash
i think im going to wait another 3-4 months before i approach for warranty.
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You can stay there and wait for 5 more minutes in the shop while they are attending other customers, just to proove your point.
If they are honest, they will not deny the fact!
foxium said:
I had that "gray splash" problem with my Kaiser and Diamond.
Hard reset also didn't work like above. For both devices the fix was simply flashing to a different (cooked) ROM.
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knave said:
As mentioned in another thread, the grey screen problem was fixed (as least for me when I flashed to dutty's rom)
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There might be some tweaks in the cooked ROMs that avoid the problem, or it might be due to some bad flashing or defective hardware.
If not, how do you explain that I've never experienced this with my previous HTC phones (wizard, Trinity...) nor I experienced it with my Diamonds (the first one and the new one) with stock or cooked ROMs.
except for that very special time, when I received a call while downloading messages through Active Sync.
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Heeeelpp !!!
I am going crazy over this problem :
I have had my HTC Diamond for less than two months and it has worked fine.
Two days ago it started misinterpreting my stylus' pointing on the screen.
It seem that the sensory-element in the screen has "moved"...
I have recalibrated the screen several times and it works for some 6 - 10 clicks.
Then the touch of the stylus is either not registered (if I try to reach something on top part of the screen) or I get results as if I was pointing between 0,1cm - 1,5 cm or more above og under (it varies) the actual contact point of the stylus (needless to say - I have given up using my fingertip).
I have tried with soft reset and have also tried the hard reset but to no avail.
It means that I can't use the phone for one thing and also, that most of the other functions are out of reach or very very hard to use because of the displacement.
Ozgur ? / Anybody ?
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I have exactly the same problem on my wifes Diamond. Just havent got round to reporting it yet, thought i'd let her suffer a while first.
Suffering
mikey1963 said:
I have exactly the same problem on my wifes Diamond. Just havent got round to reporting it yet, thought i'd let her suffer a while first.
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If it is acting up like mine, she must be crawling the walls by now and refusing any form of physical contact - just like the phone does ...
Mine is so bad now, that I can't call a number from my list or pick up the phone without 4 -5 tries at hitting the right spot let alone using any other function.
Against better knowledge I today updated the ROM with the new one from HTC - and it is quite evident, that is is a hardware thing.
I am handing in my complaints and the phone today.
I had the same problem on dutty's v2.2 rom yesterday. I reflashed a radio as i had problem with gps as well and it is good back again. Reflash your radio. If not flash radio and other rom. Usually HTC rom don't upgrade your radio!
Same problem here, my diamond stated misinterpreting slightly the stylus, now it's all just messed up, wherever you click, it detects the pulsation at the upper left side of the screen. It doesn't pass the calibration phase either.
I did not try to reflash the radio, just reflashed the stock SPL and original Vodafone ROM for sending it to RMA. However they are telling me that the whole RMA-thing will take AT LEAST 2 weeks. Over 15 days without my phone. I need it, that's madness! They should give the users a new phone and send the other back to HTC for whatever they want to do with it!
I think it happened after I tried playing a bad-formatted WAV file and the phone crashed. Should I try the Radio thing?
I have done a reasonable amount of searching on this and have not found anything specific to my problem so figured I should post a question.
I have an issue with my Dimaond when it gets hot generally either using Wifi or Phone Data connection that the screen goes out. Basically everything goes to the left side of the phone so if you hit the Task Icon in the top right corner you get the Start Menu. Phone is basically useless at this point and you have to wait for it to cool down. Has happened since day one and is generally worse when using it when charging. I was watching Utube on it the other night 5min video while on AC charge and it went out. I am running Dutty 2.5 Rom and 25.07 radio have tryed 25.08 and 25.05 no difference was happening when the phone had orginal HTC ROM as well. Also will happen on a long call if the screen is on.
Basically feel issue is hardware related and maybe faulty screen still under warrenty so wanted to know peoples opinion on weather I should send back. Problem is will take a couple of weeks and I don't really wnat to wait that long if I can help it. Also assume it would be best to flash standard ROM back, should I do anything with HARDSPL eg should this be changed back as well if I send it back.
And before anyone says it I have tryed searching this topic and have found lots about HOT dimaonds but nothing related to screen going out at the same time :-(
Thanks
I had this issue in my JasJam (Hermes) whre the screen would simply go white after a while of use and I would have to leave it for a while for it to work again.
Unfortunately it sa hardware issue and you should claim a warranty repair on it
I can't see how this could be a software problem so I figured it must be the screen eg hardware related. Would be nice to know if anyone has had the same issue with a dimaond... Seems we may be spending some time apart, just hope it doesn't take long to fix..
I've had the same issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428976
My first device had been replaced recently (i.e. today) by my network provider (o2) and the new device seems to work without any problems now even if it's "hot".
(i.e. default screen adjustment + creating heat by activating the phone, wlan, bt + recharging it)
I sent an email to HTC regarding the fault and they said it would have to go back for a warrenty repair. I brought it through a resellar so has to go back to HK from NZ so will be away three weeks uurggghhh... Just seems odd I don't have any physical damage on the screen but hte problem has been around since day one as I remember having the problem the first day I got it. Juyst seems to be getting worse and is easily reproduced by usiung utube over wifi gets hot and it is all over. Just wondering if I should put an offical ROM from HTC back on the device before I send it back as I currenty am running Dutty ROM, what do you think....
i put the original rom back on and they still found out the the rom had been flashed, and would not repair on warranty
yep, i also asked about this problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438733
there are some youtube video's of how the phone behaves
my phone seems to do it less frequently since stopping using panosha's rom
im using alpha zero 7 at the moment..
i've also noticed that it isnt necessarily a heat issue, my phone does it completely at random
yesterday i found though, that when the phone did the alignment issue, i gave it a good shake.. and hey.. its all aligned again?!
maybe it was just a fluke, it hasnt freaked out since..
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Hey,
I also have the same screen problem, but my Alignment goes to right.
If I press on the left side, a press on the right side is recognized.
Good to know that Im not the only one with this problem.
greets doena
I got my phone back a week ago replaced the screen has been away for over two months, complete disaster, anyway all sorted now and I have not had the problem since....
I had this exact same issue (out of the box).
It was a hardware fault and I exchanged it for another one.
Haven't had any problems since.
Minus-1 said:
I had this exact same issue (out of the box).
It was a hardware fault and I exchanged it for another one.
Haven't had any problems since.
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Hardware's fault ? Most likely not. I will give u an example of why I think it was software related. My device ran hot as well but I simply switched roms and now it's the complete opposite. Your most recent device most likely come with a different Rom in the phone.
Sometimes, like once a week or so, my Diamond gets pretty weird. It register the touch i make with my thumb or stylus as being further to the left than it actually is, sometimes all the way to the left of the screen and sometimes just a cm or two.
This happens even if I've just installed a new ROM, (got 2.03.413.1 official atm). It usually happens when the phone is pretty slow/warm/busy. Like when I've spoken for a long time, or when I'm browsing through many images. But then, all of a sudden and without me doing anything in particular, the phone fixes itself.. Takes from a few minutes to several hours.
Question is: Have you heard of this before? I've searched but found nothing like it. And, do you reckon it's a hardware or software error?
Still have warranty, but I hate turning in the phone and being without one for weeks if unlucky.
Thanks in advance,
Daniel
The touch screen of my htc touch diamond is not working properly. It does not react to my touch. For me to get it to work I have to rub my fingers over it then it will be work again as normal. This only lasts for a few minutes after a while it becomes non responsive again. It is like it has to be warmed up to get it to work. This a problem when it comes to sending text messages. (the problem remains when I remove the protective screen).
Anyone has a answer to this?
remember the last program you installed and remove it , maybe it cause this problem
or try hardreset
Tried both methods still not working. I have ran out of ideas. Anyone else expierenced this problem?
Im having the same problem with my Raphael
To really know whether it is a hardware problem or software based problem, I recommend a hard reset and see whether the problem persists...
this is likely to be water damage on the screen. send it off for warranty see if they fix it. they fixed it for mine.
The thing is iv noticed the touch screen isn't thermal reactive like most touch screens. In other words the temprature of your finger is sensed on thermal screens, the HTC you can use anything solid that makes contact. Usefull if you have long nails.
So I'm guessing its probably hardware if it works after a while of 'rubbing' it, But like otacon said I would do a hard reset before jumping to that conclusion.
Same problem
Hi there....i saw that this is an old thread but did you manage to get it to work?
Cause i have a HTC Diamond that i changed both the displays on(LCD and the "point screen") and everything works fine on mine now,even tried to recieve phonecalls and it works excellent so as i said EVERYTHING works like a charm but the touch function.....it doesn´t react in any way while trying to use the touch function and i have tried soft reset,hard reset,new rom,checked all the internal connections around 4-5times and everything is ok but the damn touch function won´t work whatever i do with it.
I haven´t "glued" the 2 screens together,but they are sitting close to eachother so it should work anyways right?
Now from what i have seen on internet is that there are different versions of touch screens available on the market and i ordered the LCD from one company and the touch screen from another.
Could it be so that they aren´t compatible together or am i doing something wrong?
I´m still stuck at "Tap the screen to set up your Windows Mobile-based device" and can´t get any further after trying another rom.
Please help me out if it´s possible.
I have exactly the same issue you're experiencing, I've actual flashed the original rom, thinking that might put every settings in place to make it work, but no joy.
I don't be leave the concept of the weather condition equate to the performance of the device, as read in some of the forums. reason being I've had mine in very hot climate Country for over year whiles working on a project in Africa. In fact that was when I realised the the screen has become unresponsive.
I think this is a hardware issue.
It´s working perfect again
So since my last reply i ordered a new touch digitizer and lcd display and soldered them together carefully(first time i bought a lcd and digitizer from two different companies so they weren´t compatible with eachother and made the touch defective and second time i bought both digitizer and LCD screen from the same company and then it worked) and it has been working perfect since i last wrote my comment so i recomend you check the contacts/connections first on the phone because i had some minor issues with them when i assambled the phone again so i had to #wiggle# the contacts so i made sure they were connected.
We had a company here that sold lcd displays and digitizers out for a total of 30dollars with shipping so i had nothing to loose on it so that´s why i ordered a new set again and that made everything work as a charm since i replaced it.
Now i have searched online about the displays and the digitizers and i have found out that there are atlast three different versions of them so if you order a digitizer and a LCD make sure you atleast order both from the same company so it doesn´t happen the same to you what happened to me the first time.
Cheers and hope i helped you somewhat or else just ask on and i should try to answer.
So its been about a year and half since I received this phone for my birthday, and from this moment on, I am 90% sure that these companies design these phones to fall apart after a while so you buy a new one.
Please to not be intimidated by the length of the problems, I really doent want to waste a $600 nice phone. Please help.....
List of problems:
So on one random day, while I was using my phone with EnergyROM sense 6.1 (Not even 6.5 (Windows 6.5.5)) the phone stopped rotating when I flipped the keyboard, as in the screen will not rotate when I try to use the keyboard. The touch screen also becomes uncalibrated, and even when I recalibrate it, it still acts very funky (have to click lower than button or higher, depending on its mood). I did absolutely nothing different with my phone that day, but I did not call my phone dead right away, so I decided to update the ROM with the latest sense 6.5 ROM to see if the OS is corrupt or over-cached. This did not fix the problem.
Also, another very weird thing is the phone's screen will illuminate (I guess backlight), but no picture will show when turned on after sleep mode, and I have to click the top button again to sleep and awake it to get a picture. When flipped, the screen doesn't even fully illuminate, and literally dies down to a black screen (half of the pixels are bright, and then it just fails).
Any help would be very appreciated. What I am thinking of is wiping the phone 100%, and not even leaving a rom on it. I heard there is a command that deletes the junk off your phone from a previous ROM to your updated ROM is clutter free. Any other suggestions?
Edit: I hard reset my phone, and nothing is fixed; I still cannot flip screen into landscape mode.
The "command" you are talking about is called "task 29", look for it in the ROM section.
It sounds like hardware problems, i've had mine for about 1 year and a half as well and no problems besides a couple of scratches.
The flex cable connecting LCD and board might be out of order.... I had the same issue.
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The flex cable connecting LCD and board might be out of order.... I had the same issue.
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Yeah I heard about that problem. I will first task 29 it, but are there any guides to take apart and fix the flex cable, or even just unplugging it and plugging it back in?
Also, what did you do with your broken phone? Did you buy a new one or get it fixed?
Thanks for the feed back both of you.
my X1 also aged same as yours and it still runs flawlessly now. so it might depends on how you used and keep it
as for the "wiping off the phone" its called task 29, and is encouraged to do before you flash a new ROM, have you did it before flashing energyROM?
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my X1 also aged same as yours and it still runs flawlessly now. so it might depends on how you used and keep it
as for the "wiping off the phone" its called task 29, and is encouraged to do before you flash a new ROM, have you did it before flashing energyROM?
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No, but I just did now, but it seems to be a hardware problem because nothing seems to be working properly still. This is some serious BS because I am very over protected with this phone, just to prevent stuff like this to happen. I have never dropped it ONCE, and it seemed to just wear out by itself. The lenses covering the camera is cracked also, and the screen is all screwed up, and I didnt do absolutely nothing abusive to it, I am 110% sure of this.
Any suggestions on how to fix hardware/ ribbon connected to the screen problem?
Order a new cable and replace it.
If you search on Youtube for the video on how to disassemble x1 there is a complete guide that shows you. Its pretty easy and all you need to do is, take the flex cable out and carefully plug it back in. Then carefully put your X1 back together and hopefully you issue will be fixed. If it still persist, then try and get the flex cable changed.