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Orange HTC tytn 2

Hello
I am new to this forum, so sorry if i posted this thread in the wrong place.
I have a htc tytn 2 locked to orange, and i was trying to install tomtom6 when i realised that i need to update the rom to do that.
could you plzz let me know how i can install tomtom or update the rom as the main reason i got the fone was to use the gps on it.
Also if it is possible to unlock the fone then plzz let me know.
thank you

why upgrading ? I have tomtom on my kaiser and it works
which rom do you have ?

ce os 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
rom version: 1.81.61.2 wwe

You don't need to update the rom
I'm on orange uk and took the card (with tomtom installed) straight from my tytn into the tytn 2 and worked straight off... well after I told it to use the internal gps
tomtom version = 6.0.32
rom is out the box orange uk rom

I guess that what he is trying to do is to install the TomTom software that came with other Tytn2 devices. Orange UK took that software off the CD and and I think that they adjuested the ROM so that the TYTN2 TOMTOM software refuses to be installed. I tried installing the TOMTOM TYTN2 version but it gives an error message... however.. my TOMTOM 6 from TYTN is working fine with builtin GPS!
Ciao

i too have a out the box orange uk rom running tomtom 6023,no problems at all
the orange rom i have is :1.81.61.2 WWE
rom date : 09/20/07

I also have Orange TyTn II, running TomTom 6.0.3.0
With the internal GPS, I find it takes quite a while to get a signal lock. I reckon it's a pretty low power device internally, and it suffers from problems in built up areas. Even with QUickGPS, it takes a good minute to lock on at the best of times.
I also have a Qstar 180 bluetooth GPS, based on a SIRF3 generation chipset. This is much better than the internal and generally I use this one
Also don't under any circumstances even open the External GPS application. Even opening this stopped by GPS working. Insane, so hopefully a fix will come out soon

Can Anyone Provide Me With A Serial Number For An O2 Xda Stellar?

I have just bought an HTC TYTN II, I would like to install the O2 Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM, I prefer the O2 ROM as all the settings are pre-programmed and the layout are as O2 expect them so I can call them for Tech support.
Unfortunately, I cannot access the file as I don't have the O2 version (the XDA STELLAR) and you need to enter your O2 XDA STELLAR Serial Number to access it.
Is there any kind person out there that might be willing to PM (message) me with a serial number of an XDA STELLAR that I could enter to get the file please.
Hoping someone can help me,
Thanks Folks,
wirralot
PS: Isn't the TYTN II / XDA STELLAR just the BEST phone ever!!

i would just put on a cooked rom from the many out there,first read the wiki about spl etc
the settings are on a automatic send once you install a new rom and turn it on,
as for tech help,i would say heres your guys use the search and you will be fine.
iam on o2 and its fine tryed many roms now and still ok.

TyTN IIs Connection Wizard/network will automatically set it up
The HTC branded TyTN II has a connection wizard which allows use on different networks and in different countries (especially useful if you're going overseas and want to use a PAYG sim for example. Also, as already mentioned, when you turn the phone on with your O2 sim already in it, the phone will automatically set itself up for your network - that's how it was with me and Vodafone. There's no need to go to the trouble of flashing your ROM and should you need any tech support, any instructions for the Stellar are likely to apply to the TyTN II as well. The few times I've spoken with Vodafone staff, their V1615 (vodafone branded version) feedback has helped (they even sent me a V1615 manual so I can compare the two).
ps yes it's the best ever as long as you have the WM 6.0 ROM and don't expect very good video playback!

Thanks for the input guys,
I should be receiving the pda in a day or too.
I believe it's on Windows mobile 6.1.
You say :" ps yes it's the best ever as long as you have the WM 6.0 ROM and don't expect very good video playback!"
Is WM 6.1 not a success for the Tytn II?
This is a great site, full of other people like me who couldn't live without their PDA!
Cheers Folks,
wirralot

O2 Wm 6.1 Rom
Here is a link to download the ROM. Its in the Kaiser Wiki, just scroll through the list and you will see it under HTC WM 6.1 ROMs.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs

wirralot said:
I believe it's on Windows mobile 6.1.
You say :" ps yes it's the best ever as long as you have the WM 6.0 ROM and don't expect very good video playback!"
Is WM 6.1 not a success for the Tytn II?
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I can only write with experience of the HTC branded TyTN II and their official ROMs here in the UK but IMO HTCs WM 6.1 upgrade for the TyTN II is more trouble than its worth. It introduced many bugs which I'd not noticed or experienced under WM 6.0. These included the default ring tones going silent unexpectedly, untidy file structure with WMP program files being where they shouldn't and of course GPS performance issues (which it appears are also plaguing its successor the Touch Pro). I wrote a multipage letter to HTC about bugs with their WM 6.1 upgrade and their handling of them so in short, no, I do not consider HTCs implementation of WM 6.1 a success (in its current state) on the TyTN II

HTC Tytn II freezes few seconds

Hi all,
First of all, let me wish you all a happy 2009
Since a few days my HTC Tytn II freezes sometimes: During several seconds I can't select items using the Stylus.. Even if i tap several times, nothing happens. It usually freezes for 2-3 seconds, not more.
I'm using the 6.1 ROM. I already tried a hard reset, and even without any additional programs installed, the problem occurs every now and then.
Anyone has an idea?
-moose

I've had this happen to me as well, but thought it normal just because of the OS being Windows. Sorry I don't really have an answer I'm learning all this stuff as well but did want to at least acknowledge your not the only one with this as an issue.

ok, but is it exactly what I'm experiencing? It's not always the case, only sometimes.. And I can't tell beforehand when it's going to happen actually.
I don't have lots of programs open when the problem occurs..

Par for the course with HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'
I had that problem with the HTC supplied WM 6.1 upgrade ROM (along with general unreliability and poor GPS performance). Reverting back to the WM 6.0 ROM/Radio/SPL seems to have cured those issues. Now the only problem I have is an occasionally laggy keyboard (or if I install the laggy keyboard fix here on xda-dev, then occasional pausing during media such as video and mp3 playback - haven't figured out how to solve both). I suspect your pausing is associated with radio/reception activity. Try turning it to flight mode as a test and see if it still occurs (not that the device is much use like this, but it will pinpoint the cause).

HI,
Thanks for reply. Do you know if there's an official (supported by HTC) way to revert back to the old windows?
I indeed upgraded recently to 6.1, and it seems that problems started after the upgrade.

You could complain and get HTC to do it
moose_man2008 said:
HI,
Thanks for reply. Do you know if there's an official (supported by HTC) way to revert back to the old windows?
I indeed upgraded recently to 6.1, and it seems that problems started after the upgrade.
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If your phone is still under warranty then just speak with the HTC Repair Centre for your area (in the UK they're in Milton Keynes). In my case because the GPS under WM 6.1 wouldn't work properly (and I was having the other problems you described), when I told them I needed a prompt solution they offered to revert it for free. After booking it in through their call centre, I left it with the repair centre in the morning and it was done at the end of that day. No there is no official way to do it yourself (even though one HTC call centre staffmember tried to tell me there was - the RUU package he referred me to was only for upgrading from even older WM 6.0 ROMs or reflashing over the same WM 6.0 setup, not reverting back from WM 6.1). There are unofficial ways as per instructions in the wiki so if you're not near to one of their repair centres (or object to the delay/costs involved with postage), then thats an option but make sure you know what you're doing first.
Assuming you have a European WWE HTC branded TyTN II, the setup in my sig seems to be working pretty well here in the UK.

The cure for this is to use the kaiser unlocker and unlock your phone. You will probably have to re-flash your radio after that but this fixed it for me. I only experienced after upgrading to 6.1.

punkhawaiian said:
The cure for this is to use the kaiser unlocker and unlock your phone. You will probably have to re-flash your radio after that but this fixed it for me. I only experienced after upgrading to 6.1.
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I don't think thats an issue associated with any lock on the phone (although perhaps a lock may make it worse). My HTC branded TyTN II came totally unlocked to start with and after the WM 6.1 upgrade the problems came, after reverting to WM 6.0, they went - the solution seems simple to me if people can get past the 'against the grain thinking' of using an 'old' ROM for greater reliability.

Flying Kiwi said:
I don't think thats an issue associated with any lock on the phone (although perhaps a lock may make it worse). My HTC branded TyTN II came totally unlocked to start with and after the WM 6.1 upgrade the problems came, after reverting to WM 6.0, they went - the solution seems simple to me if people can get past the 'against the grain thinking' of using an 'old' ROM for greater reliability.
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I will confirm that this is happening on a HTC Branded unlocked TyTN II. I have had no experience with 6.0 on my TyTN II, as my phone came with 6.1 installed and exhibits the above mentioned behavior.

Vario III flased with HTC 6.1 Rom - Slow Rotation

Hello,
I flashed a T-Mobile MDA Vario III with HTC latest official rom (WM 6.1) and now screen rotation on slide out / in is much slower. Sometimes it takes up to 4 seconds.
Any ideas?
Best Regards,
Craig Brass

I can't really point to a solution with the ROM you're using; in fact I'd be willing to guess that it's just a side-effect of that particular ROM - I don't imagine the Radio ROM in your device not being best-suited for the OS ROM would deliver slow screen rotation as a side-effect.
All I can say is that I recently flashed to AthineOS and EVERYTHING is quick on it. Screen rotation when sliding occurs within a second I'd say - it might be slightly over a second, I haven't timed it, but either way it's very quick, and quicker than the T-Mobile WM6.0 ROM...
Anyway, hope you get it sorted... Let us know if you find a solution for your current ROM.
Regards,
Rob.

T-Mobile considerations
I seem to recall HTCs fix for this in their HTC Branded WM 6.1 'upgrade' involved more than just the ROM but if the radio and spl are going to be upgraded as well, people need to make sure there are backups of the originals first because in some countries (and Craig didn't say where he's from or fill in that part of his profile), T-Mobile use customised versions and special network configuration. Perhaps a T-Mobile customer can comment whats reqd from experience? I haven't tried searching but I suspect that'd pull something relevant up as well.

Ok, I flashed with AthineOS as suggested. Nearly perfect. Couple of things :-
1. I flashed the official dialer for the voice calling. Before, when launched, it would show Contacts as the left button. Now it shows Hide Keypad. How do I get it to show Contacts again?
2. TouchFlo 3D shows the calender list but when clicked it launches the default phone calender app. I have Developer One Agenda One Installed and I want it to launch this. How do I do that?

WM 6.0 and 6.1 Radio's.

Well, I am using a custom 6.1 rom now, And I must say. 6.1 is the best windows mobile for me right now. But, at the radio list there are radio's sorted for wm 6.1 and 6.0, And I installed a 6.0 radio on my wm 6.1.. Now I have a gps fix in 6 seconds, wich I will never have with a 6.1 Radio. Isn't it possible to get a 6.0 Radio getting fully working on a 6.1 rom? Cause I don't have sound and camera won't work now. But I like the fast GPS fix.
-Armazia

If only....
Armazia said:
I installed a 6.0 radio on my wm 6.1.. Now I have a gps fix in 6 seconds, wich I will never have with a 6.1 Radio. Isn't it possible to get a 6.0 Radio getting fully working on a 6.1 rom? Cause I don't have sound and camera won't work now. But I like the fast GPS fix.
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Not without developing new audio and camera drivers to suit the old radio (assuming that was possible), then making a new ROM with them. I know what you're getting at because I use GPS alot as well. I've gone back to a WM 6.0 ROM with my preferred Radio and GPS is as good as ever. Although I've not checked out many custom 6.1 ROMs, I found the official HTC 6.1 ROM had many other bugs aside from breaking GPS, things like not coming out of power saving mode on the first press of the power button, ringtones switching off without being told to do so and occasional periods of non-responsiveness. While 6.0 is slower in many ways, GPS is not one of them and at least things work reliably. It does mean you cant take advantage of the graphics accelerations drivers that have been developed here on xda-dev though

Flying Kiwi said:
Not without developing new audio and camera drivers to suit the old radio (assuming that was possible), then making a new ROM with them. I know what you're getting at because I use GPS alot as well. I've gone back to a WM 6.0 ROM with my preferred Radio and GPS is as good as ever. Although I've not checked out many custom 6.1 ROMs, I found the official HTC 6.1 ROM had many other bugs aside from breaking GPS, things like not coming out of power saving mode on the first press of the power button, ringtones switching off without being told to do so and occasional periods of non-responsiveness. While 6.0 is slower in many ways, GPS is not one of them and at least things work reliably. It does mean you cant take advantage of the graphics accelerations drivers that have been developed here on xda-dev though
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indeed, thats why I want something so my gps gets an almost instant fix, but whatever Radio I try on wm 6.1 and 6.5, it doesn't work. Al through I do use 6.1 now, I think thats faster then 6.5, I also don't like the menu in 6.5. But still I hear people saying that they get a really fast fix in wm 6.5/6.1. Thats why I am asking.

Like a speeding snail...
Armazia said:
I hear people saying that they get a really fast fix in wm 6.5/6.1. Thats why I am asking.
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Fast GPS sattelite lock relative to what? Surely not a WM 6.0 setup or I want to see it with my own eyes before believing it
I've yet to hear any users of WM 6.1 or 6.5 claim (and substantiate) GPS locking is faster than with the equivalent, correctly set up 'original' WM 6.0 setup. The only times I managed to get what some may consider to be fast GPS lock times when testing WM 6.1 ROMs was if TomTom Navigator had previously been running just before I (re)started Navigator and definitely not if I was on the move at the time. I get the impression HTC somehow reduced the power of the GPS functioning in later radios and even the later WM 6.0 Radios (such as 1.27.15.32R2) offered poorer GPS performance for me than older WM 6.0 versions such as 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.32.
I'd love to get to the bottom of what HTC did with the radio's over that time and why. My hunch is that it was an effort to reduce battery consumption by effectively starving those parts that used the most power - a bit like putting a tap in the fuel line on a car and partly closing it, either that or they reduced the amount of CPU resources allocated to GPS some other way. I think I'd have more luck breaking into Fort Knox than extracting that info from HTC and more to the point when I complained about it to them, they wouldn't listen and fix it. Their soluition under warranty was to revert my TyTN II back to Windows 6.0 (with a slightly newer Radio - the one I use now in my sig). Unlike other companies such as Intel that provide info on what new BIOS revisions fix, HTC don't seem to provide this information in sufficient detail for Radio revisions.

Flying Kiwi said:
Fast GPS sattelite lock relative to what? Surely not a WM 6.0 setup or I want to see it with my own eyes before believing it
I've yet to hear any users of WM 6.1 or 6.5 claim (and substantiate) GPS locking is faster than with the equivalent, correctly set up 'original' WM 6.0 setup. The only times I managed to get what some may consider to be fast GPS lock times when testing WM 6.1 ROMs was if TomTom Navigator had previously been running just before I (re)started Navigator and definitely not if I was on the move at the time. I get the impression HTC somehow reduced the power of the GPS functioning in later radios and even the later WM 6.0 Radios (such as 1.27.15.32R2) offered poorer GPS performance for me than older WM 6.0 versions such as 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.32.
I'd love to get to the bottom of what HTC did with the radio's over that time and why. My hunch is that it was an effort to reduce battery consumption by effectively starving those parts that used the most power - a bit like putting a tap in the fuel line on a car and partly closing it, either that or they reduced the amount of CPU resources allocated to GPS some other way. I think I'd have more luck breaking into Fort Knox than extracting that info from HTC and more to the point when I complained about it to them, they wouldn't listen and fix it. Their soluition under warranty was to revert my TyTN II back to Windows 6.0 (with a slightly newer Radio - the one I use now in my sig). Unlike other companies such as Intel that provide info on what new BIOS revisions fix, HTC don't seem to provide this information in sufficient detail for Radio revisions.
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Thats what I always hear from people, The hardware is fine, but the software is under the quality, also warranty.