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my Kaiser+Any WM 6.1 = screen align. problem

Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris

kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
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try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...

prabh said:
try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...
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I've done it already. I've played with every setting known by me.
Still doesnt work. I just flashed to 6.0. And again - there is no such issue.
Thanks for suggestion!

woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with

Infuruno said:
woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with
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Thanks Infuruno for your suggestion. I think you have a good point in that disortion but there is one big difference in our problem, and I don't know why.
Its the WM version. Now I'm runnig 6.0 without any problem. Even if I want to do this - it never occurs. And I mean never!. I don't know what's wrong here
Anyway I'll soon try to buy the touch screen for Kaiser and change it.
Cheers,
Chris

6.0 seemed to have sensitivity set on normal by default while the 6.1 by default the sensitivity is set of high (> normal) at least looking at the official t-mobile 6.0 and every other 6.1 rom i've tested, and the touch screen thing is just a theory i came up while well literally as i posted that message just started putting things i've seen together maybe if someone who didn't have the problem could see if they got distortion before you buy a new touch screen.

I just got my Tilt (I came from the Sprint Touch) and I've noticed the same thing. I never used a 6.0 ROM, the guy I bought it from already had a 6.1 ROM on it and I flashed it to HyperDragon's PRO III ROM when I got it.
I was used to my Sprint Touch and it had a 6.1 ROM on it as well and didn't have a problem. It is very annoying if I try to use an onscreen keyboard for those times that I don't want to pull out the other one.

Done more tests.
Today I've installed new HyperDragon III Pro (great ROM ) and I still got that issue. After that - flashed Dutty's V4 RTM (6.0) - and you know what? It works just perfect.
I don't know wtf is wrong with that.

What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?

Infuruno said:
What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?
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Hmm, nothing at all.
I've tried that every time. That doesn't work on that
Thanks!

This just sucks ass.... I really don't know what to do. I just flashed HD III Pro, Its great ROM, and I cannot use it cause of this ****ing screen thing.
Flashed back to random 6.0 --- no problems. Damnit!

Same problem for me, very hard to make a call

Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.

mindfrost82 said:
Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.
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I've done really many tries with various options and various configurations before I posted the thread. Nothing - absolutely nothing seems to help.

kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
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I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.

zsilak said:
I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.
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I wonder then where is the problem? Maybe its a problem with some models of Kaiser?

I'm surprised there's not more people with this problem. Are you guys using an AT&T branded Tilt or HTC-branded, or other?
There's gotta be something in common with all of us.

What Hard-SPL version are you guys using that have the problem?

i have same problem
someday i flashed a new rom and i cant manage how to resolve this. i have that even on wm 6.0 roms. im setting up the sensitivity and it helps just locally, not fully at all. tried high sensitive on my friends kaiser and there is nothing worng with that.
i have tried many spls, but none of them seems to work
can anyone help with that?
i dont want to change my screen
ive tried many systems and spsl before, but never noticed this action.
please, somebody help with that.

I have an old Palm Tugsten T3 that started doing that, the way I fixed it was I went to the screen alignment page and clicked near the top of the bulls eye insted of the center of it, fixed it right up. try that and let me know how that works.

Lock the screen when the face is upto the phone

Ok well i don't know exactly what to call this but i was hoping that there was an app out their that is like the iphone so that when i answer a call it shows me the normal end call and what not but when i put my face against the speaker (or more so the light sensor) that the screen would lock. I think that this would a great app because so many people end calls with their cheek that it is a bit annoying. but any way thanks for any help in advanced.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466519
^^^^Try that, works a treat

thank you im downloading now =]

Ok well this works for the time being but now i was thinking someone could make an app that would turn off the screen when the light value gets below a certain point. (i would try but unfortunately i only know a little c++ and vb) so any one with the expertise if you could make it i would be highly appreciative. Thank you.

[REQ]Kaiser (tilt) backlight

Hello, I was doing some thinking after using Android on the kaiser. What about having the backlight fade out while not in use and fade in when touched, much like Android or any of the newer HTC's?
If it worked in Android already then it should be somewhat easy to do in WM if it can be controlled.
Basically the backlight would dim from the user set amount to something close to being totally off, but not actually off. then when used it would quickly and smoothly fade back to the users setting.
Though i'm not a developer (skinner really) anyone want to try to do it? And anyone interested in something like this?

I think this would be great for the Kaiser and would welcome this feature...

Yes please fix this stupid backlight issue on our Kaiser. I would like to see the above fix worked out.

I think this would be a excellent addition to the tilt!
Anyone know if there is a method to accomplish this?

i like the sound of it

Me too! If it can happen in anroid, I am sure it can happen in WM as well! Maybe some software guru can help us out...

ai6908 said:
Me too! If it can happen in anroid, I am sure it can happen in WM as well! Maybe some software guru can help us out...
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I believe that those newer models have additional components that make this happen. (PROXIMITY SENSOR I THINK). and since we dont have it, the only possible way would be to have the phone dim really low, but still be active(not standby), and your phone would basically never be allowed to go into standby(battery killer).
thats what i think thou, nothing official.

thats weird,i watched my tilt and it dimmed like my g1 did ,just not as dark,and if i wait longer it will shut off the screen ,like the g1.but when the screen shuts off on the g1 the phone gets locked and you have to press a button then menu to unlock it or slide it open,on the tilt i just press the power button and the screen comes on or sliding it open.

best sensor applications for Raphael

hey guys,
im looking for the most efficient program or tweak that will run in the background and do the typical things g-sensors do, like rotate the screen, turn off the screen during a call, or silence calls when turning the phone on its face.
Let me know if yuo guys have any ideas.
Thanks,
Anish88

Isn't it doing it anyway? I'm not using a program and the things u said are still working.

i think Gyrator 2 can help u to rotate screen every where!!

ren4e said:
Isn't it doing it anyway? I'm not using a program and the things u said are still working.
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wow really? i installed touch incall screen tweak to turn off the screen when the phone is to my ear but the rotation thing does happen and i cant silence a call when i turn it upside down.
FYI touch incall screen tweak is AWESOME.
but if you know how to activate these things without installing apps please let me know. I am using NFSFAN's 6.5.3 rom.
Thanks,
Anish88

yeah they just work, i have it for like 2 months now and im with the latest original rom of htc and works, before that was with energy rom but i dont know if it worked then, because i changed it very fast to have better battery performance. maybe advanced configuration has some options like that?

I would like to know how to do these things too.

anish88 said:
wow really? i installed touch incall screen tweak to turn off the screen when the phone is to my ear but the rotation thing does happen and i cant silence a call when i turn it upside down.
FYI touch incall screen tweak is AWESOME.
but if you know how to activate these things without installing apps please let me know. I am using NFSFAN's 6.5.3 rom.
Thanks,
Anish88
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Glad you like my Touch Incall Screen Tweak (TICST) - you might want to take a look at ChangeScreen for your rotation needs. I must admit, I thought that mute on face down was standard behaviour? If not, maybe it's specific to the dialer?
Cheers,
Steve.

[Q] Anyone else having a hard time with phone calls on their N6?

For the life of me I cannot use my N6 no-handed, even for just a moment. The 5-10 seconds I need to hold my phone up between my shoulder and my face to free both hands.......it never fails that I cause an issue with a live phone call. Obviously the larger screen (larger touch-sensitive area) and the screen being on for some reason during the call.......I always either put the phone call on hold, or even put the current call on hold and manage to dial one of my starred contacts. It is driving me up the damn wall. I am not a huge fan of the L phone interface (the starred favorites especially), I much prefer the KK layout.
Anyone else having as hard of a time as me? I'm wondering if the screen being off during the call would cure this. I guess I could manually cut it off when going to no-hands.......but figured it should do it on its own. Anyone care to either give me some suggestions, or even punch me for my ignorance and tell me what I am doing wrong?
Love everything about the phone, and also loving LiquidSmooth.......just hoping the development gets into high gear soon.

The screen is suppose to be off during calls, that's what the proximity sensor is for. Are you sure you are not hitting the power button while in call, i find it to be sensitive??If its not turning itself off when you put it up to your face, flash back to full stock. Still not working, then its probably a hardware issue???
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app

holeindalip said:
The screen is suppose to be off during calls, that's what the proximity sensor is for. Are you sure you are not hitting the power button while in call, i find it to be sensitive??If its not turning itself off when you put it up to your face, flash back to full stock. Still not working, then its probably a hardware issue???
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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I forgot to reply I had this issue while stock as well. I wasn't looking to 'fix' this issue with a different ROM either, I just like the capabilities and development done in the ROM's themselves. Can't say I didn't hope something would change though.....

I only experience this with my left hand, LOL. Right handed, no issues with the screen turning off.

wilson289 said:
I only experience this with my left hand, LOL. Right handed, no issues with the screen turning off.
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Well that is certainly odd lol.....
Anyone else? Surely I'm not the only one....... :silly: