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Just wandering because I have wanted a Diamond from the very first time I set eyes on one. I am not into messing with it as much as I see most members are here. I surely would like to have a better, faster, stronger Diamond but not at the expense of having to reboot every other day, or having it do some weird thing just when I need it the most. I need to know, should I get one, given that I probably am too chicken to mod it? My main uses would be basic phone functions, camera and GPS. I am not really into music and surfing is really too slow and costly, except over WIFI, which I never seem to get when I really need it .
Thanks Wayne.
My Orange ROM is fine. No branding. Fast and stable. Does everyting you want
Installed a few extra apps like Tomtom and S2P (music player)
I have the NAM version available at best buy. No problems at all with the stock rom. Its fast stable, and the radios, gps, etc all work fine. Cant see flashing a rom when I have no problems with the stock rom and no performance issues. Fiddling is a different story. IMO the diamond needs some tweaking to reach its potential. An example would be that on mine at the tf3d home screen there is a soft button for phone which performs exactly the same as the hard button for phone. Cant figure out who thought it would be a good idea but I used advanced config to change the softkey to contacts.
I am happy with the phone, especially its compact size. I haven't flashed any ROM yet, just using the Telstra stock rom for the last 5 months. Very stable and no hard-reset so far. Though I think I would flash some other ROMs soon as I just can't resist the temptations and the excitement of playing with the phone.
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I have the NAM version available at best buy. No problems at all with the stock rom. Its fast stable, and the radios, gps, etc all work fine. Cant see flashing a rom when I have no problems with the stock rom and no performance issues. Fiddling is a different story. IMO the diamond needs some tweaking to reach its potential. An example would be that on mine at the tf3d home screen there is a soft button for phone which performs exactly the same as the hard button for phone. Cant figure out who thought it would be a good idea but I used advanced config to change the softkey to contacts.
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I have the US Version too, I got it from Ebay last week, and some tweaks via Advanced Config it's running like a champ! The only issue I have is every once in a while, TouchFlo 3F will freeze for what seems like forever, then start working again okay, I'm not sure if it's just normal or something is conflicting somewhere.
Using stock rom since first day i got my diamond, only hard reset once since, and thats the first day i got it
the only thing that irks me is the meager amount of device memory available
Looking through all the custom roms, doesnt really find one that suits me, so.. stock rom for me then
Stock Sprint ROM here... no issues, other than the phone's lack of device memory as stated above. Not much I can do there, and I like the look of Sprint's TF3D, so I'm keeping it.
been running stock UK ROM for six months and working fine. Would love to take some of the apps out that came with phone to free up memory such as IE and MSN, but can't do that without using a cooked ROM, and my need does not take me past the point of having a bricked phone to do it! I have installed some other programs (mostly games), but if you are using the phone for what you say you will have no bother at all with memory.
The only bad things about the phone is the battery life is rubbish with the stock 940 battery. I have upgraded to the 1340 one and that has solved all my problems, so I would say try and get one with the bigger battery with it (bear in mind it does make the phone slightly wider and the back cover is matt not gloss that comes with the larger battery).
Hope this helps.
Yes best phone i ever had
Very happy with the stock 1.93 ROM. I only reset maybe once every month, and the phone is on 24/7. Best thing I did was to disable TouchFlow 3D and install SPB Mobile Shell.
o2 German Stock Rom 1.93 with small reg. Tweaks. Runs fine and i am happy.
Wow, that's great to hear. I think you get too caught up in all the negative stuff when you do any kind of search on electronic devices. I am not apposed to flashing a new rom it is just that I know with every good thing there is always attached some weird and wonderful "bug". I am also not apposed to tweaking as I have done so with my Touch. Do any of you have any issues with the GPS? Again, a lot of negative stuff out there, especially about position lag. I just tried a CDMA version at Telus in Toronto, Canada and while playing with the Tflo 3D I noticed some lag at times. It was fast and smooth then it would not move then it seemed to catch up but I had already tried to move it again so it was all over the place then it would be okay. I am waiting for Rogers to get it and if not I might bite the bullet and get an unlocked one.
Thanks for all your replies it is nice to see that I do not have to flash a new rom to be happy.
Dhatw.
A happy one here too with a german stock ROM...
i love my stock rom, i have changed the www europe rom with the eastern Europe stock rom, foundit on an Romanian site.. basically is the same, and i have tried custom rom but they wore not of what i expected so i'm happy with my stock rom, until i learn how to cook mine
I love my diamond, stock unlocked US 3G.
Running stock WWE 1.93 ROM with minor tweaks, cant remember the last time I had to reset & on 24/7.
Top phone, best I've had yet !
Yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,
hapy too with my 1.93 htc rom
the only suggestion I have is
A) Flash the .08 radio (much better for gps easy and no hard reset)
B) use diamond tweak to customize your phone
C) disable quick gps (with diamond tweak)
i did a little bit of theme modding to get rid of most of the stinky T-Mobile branding, other than that everything is running fast and smooth.
would probably be faster and smoother by running another ROM / Radio, but i'm not bothered enough to tinker about that much, not yet anyway.
battery life is a bit crappy when you've got the heavyweights running (GPS/WiFi) but then you'd expect that. phone also gets very hot when charging or in heavy use.
keeps me warm in winter.
overall, i'm definitely happy. if ever i doubt getting this phone i'll put my sim back in my MDA Touch for an hour to remind myself of why i needed a new handset.
At first I was bothered by the battery life but now I either charge overnight or leave it in a cradle at work so it's not an issue, unless I go camping or something
I realised within a few weeks that I didn't like TF3D but, having got rid of it and the HTC Dialer & Volume Control, the Diamond is a much better device now.
I'm unsure if I'll get another HTC device but I'm hoping within the next year-and-a-bit they can come up with a device the same size with a better battery and TV out!
Edit - Oh yeah, not a stock ROM!
I've now been running official non-hacked 6.5 ROM for the duration it's been out officially.
- Performance is worse than 6.1, esp on the Manila interface I use
- I've had 2 hard crashes (had to pull out the battery)
- many screen drawing glitches
- several times needed to restart the phone, because some part stopped working properly
- missed too many calls / messages to count
Now, my phone was working reasonably ok with 6.1. haven't dropped it a single time.
Only system level app / tweak I've installed is Pocket Shield 3.2 (and NetCF 3.5 which is reguired).
Is there anything that could be done to make the 6.5 more stable? Any tips?
Or, is there an unofficial ROM that people have found to be more *more stable* than the official (heaven forbid)?
I'm getting really bored with this phone and am ready to toss it, if I can't get it running properly anymore. This is daily tool for me, not a toy, so I'm rather non-plussed that the upgrade was this bad.
People here actually run stock ROMs?
I think that what you'll find depends entirely on you. The stock ROM I ran was OK. Bit of a memory hog, rather bloated for my taste, but ran pretty smoothly and seemed stable. So, either we have different tastes (and we do), we ran different stock ROMs (definitely seems the case), or both. I'm betting both.
Improving the stability of a stock ROM? Yeah, that's kinda what the chefs here do when they cook up a ROM. I suppose you could probably get serious about tweaking it and playing with things....but why? Go flash a few ROMs, and find one that suits you and your needs. I have yet to see a ROM that's worse than stock. (Well, in the Kaiser days there was one....lol, but it thankfully never was posted on XDA.)
I didn't see if you specified which OEM ROM you have been using. I'm using the TILT 2 (ATT) Stock ROM for about a week and it is very stable and responsive. It, like all ATT ROMs, is very bloated leaving limited memory, but I have yet to have a problem due to out of memory issues.
So far, I am quite impressed, as this is not what I have become accustomed to with AT&T bloat ROMs.
I have upgraded the radio, as when I unlocked had to reflash it. In fact, I have been so impressed with the stock, that I have been reluctant to reflash it at this point. I haven't looked in to doing the hard reset or soft reset other than with the power button.
What apps have you loaded on top of the stock ROM? Maybe you have loaded something that doesn't play well?
I haven't been a ROM user yet on the Rhodium forum, but I know that I had very good success with NRG's ROMs on the Fuze and he is cooking here now as well. I'm sure there are some other very nice ROMs.
Also, have you tried a hard reset?
v/r
try one of the non stock 6.5 218xx builds that are cooked up by the chefs here, they tend to be way more stable and responsive than the stock roms. im having a great time with miri's rom
Thanks for all the replies.
The bug lists for almost all non-stock ROMs have scared me away so far.
I don't want a bleeding edge ROM. I wish for a stable one and the stock was a horrible disappointment.
I start pruning down my installs. I have had very little on top of the STOCK. Just Pocket Shield and couple off non-resident apps (mini opera, etc).
Now I'll just zap the whole phone and start from scratch with nothing on it.
Maybe it'll stop crashing.
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I've now been running official non-hacked 6.5 ROM for the duration it's been out officially.
- Performance is worse than 6.1, esp on the Manila interface I use
- I've had 2 hard crashes (had to pull out the battery)
- many screen drawing glitches
- several times needed to restart the phone, because some part stopped working properly
- missed too many calls / messages to count
Now, my phone was working reasonably ok with 6.1. haven't dropped it a single time.
Only system level app / tweak I've installed is Pocket Shield 3.2 (and NetCF 3.5 which is reguired).
Is there anything that could be done to make the 6.5 more stable? Any tips?
Or, is there an unofficial ROM that people have found to be more *more stable* than the official (heaven forbid)?
I'm getting really bored with this phone and am ready to toss it, if I can't get it running properly anymore. This is daily tool for me, not a toy, so I'm rather non-plussed that the upgrade was this bad.
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Agree with you. i am using WM6.5 Official HTC Europe Version, same problem
I've been running the Timor.7.1 optimized T-Mobile ROM for 2 days straight with absolutely no issues at all.
I previous had the AthineOS rom and NRG and some other rom and they were unstable except the NRG rom, I just dind't like the NRG rom.
Im happy with my phone
vasra, you haven't listed where you are, which carrier or which version of the Rhodium you're using.
If you've got a Tilt2 I'd recomend At0mAng's Fusion V6.0 HTC Sense 2.1 ATT Version
He said V6.0 will be out later today. That's is probably the best At&t rom out at the moment.
My advice, go back to 6.1, there are no perfect roms on this forum. Always something here and there, you have to flash almost all of them and find what works best for you. For example some ppl was reporting some prob with energy rom regarding video call, since Im in the U.S. and we dont have that so to me its not a bug, just an example. So find what works for u, dont listen too much to what bugs are being report by users all over the world, if you cant do that, go back to 6.1
Thanks for all the replies again.
I'm on WWE / Euro English GSM/3G ROMs, phone bought in the Netherlands, but used all over Europe.
BTW, I wasn't aware I can go back to 6.1. How can I do this?
I think I'll test a couple of the builder ROMs, once an 'official' 6.5.1 ships, which I hope fill fix some of the 6.5 official bugs.
I also uninstalled Pocket Shield completely, which took away some of the problems I was having, but not all. Plus now I have to be content with the inane built-in "lock" system of 6.5. Grrrrr...
the HTC 6.5 rom comes with alot of apps you never going to use (well some people)
the Timo rom that is 6.5 posted here on the forum he just removed alot of microsoft apps and twerk it a lil bit..
You should try
the touch sense 2.0 b rom, very fast, energy rom is very slow
The HTC Official 6.5 ROM is the best ROM I've run. Fast, Smooth, Stable. Sure it uses more RAM and has more apps installed by default but who cares if cooked ROMs use less RAM and have less crap on them if they're constantly crashing and not operating properly. No offense to all the brilliant cooks out there, your ROMs are much cleaner and tidier than the default ROMs, but until I see a cooked ROM that doesn't fully drain my battery within 12 hours (every cooked ROM I've used does this) and is bug free, I'll be sticking to the official HTC ROM.
I've been seeing a lot of activity of android development for windows mobile and I wanted to know if I should even bother loading Android on my device.
So I have a few general questions.
1. Can someone tell me how fast android runs on xperia? The reason I ask is because WM is great, but only when it's not lagging or freezing. I'm guessing it would lag just as much or more than WM since it's running on top of WM. (though some of my reading says that android is "not" runing at the same time as WM?)
2. At this point the main features Android on Xperia lacks is:
-reliable battery
-gps (According to this article gps should be coming soon to xperia right?)
-bluetooth?
-camera
3. Once all the above features are working it will be possible to make an android rom for the xperia?
That's it.
If Android is not too slow and the GPS and battery issue is fixed then I can see myself using Android on my Xperia.
Thanks in advanced for those who reply.
If you want a real phone OS you have to stick to WM for now. Android is "emulated" through Haret from within WM. Haret is supposed to reboot the device and make it so the device boots into Android, but it only runs off of the SD card. If you run an ultra-lite ROM it is almost like you are running an Android ROM, but it is still patchwork and the kernel is incomplete. So it will be a little slow and there will be some missing capabilities.
There has been a very promising improvement since the Xperoid began, and it is perfectly safe to test, but it is not yet ready for daily use, in my opinion.
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I've been seeing a lot of activity of android development for windows mobile and I wanted to know if I should even bother loading Android on my device.
So I have a few general questions.
1. Can someone tell me how fast android runs on xperia? The reason I ask is because WM is great, but only when it's not lagging or freezing. I'm guessing it would lag just as much or more than WM since it's running on top of WM. (though some of my reading says that android is "not" runing at the same time as WM?)
2. At this point the main features Android on Xperia lacks is:
-reliable battery
-gps (According to this article gps should be coming soon to xperia right?)
-bluetooth?
-camera
3. Once all the above features are working it will be possible to make an android rom for the xperia?
That's it.
If Android is not too slow and the GPS and battery issue is fixed then I can see myself using Android on my Xperia.
Thanks in advanced for those who reply.
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1. Android is better than WM, and Faster.
2. Battery is almost fixed, GPS and Camera are coming after fixing battery.
3. when Android is working fine a ROM will be made naturally.
personally, I dont need GPS or camera.
Minus GPS and camera, which are two things which I really only use about once a week, Android is a perfectly acceptable replacement for WM. Battery will not get you through the day though.
Really it's not that hard to try it out, just give it a go and see if you like it. Keep in mind there will always be improvements being made.
At the moment, Android is just for fun. It's a really nice OS, and the work thats being done on this forum is staggering considering its being done by people UNPAID, and IN THERE OWN TIME! Sorry just like to stress that point to people who moan... Huge teams of HTC employees are on 60-70K a year writing code that these guys will probably end up doing a better job of for free, but I digress...
If you want to play around with HTC Sense on Android, which is my current toy, you have to make do without Wifi, GPS, Camera, but I don't experience the huge drop in battery life that everyone else does. Maybe I'm just lucky. If you're patient and wait for everything to load, I'd say that it is actually faster than WinMo. The Clean/Glossy versions have a greater capabilty (you get wifi and such like) and are even faster. Probably best to try that one first. Hope that answers your first two questions.
To the last, we're a long way off a ROM, but if things progress at their current rate I don't see why we can't have one some time before we all retire our Xperia's.
To your thread title, as long as you don't expect too much at this stage and you are willing to accept that this is just a "proof of concept" there's no reason not to try it. All you're loosing is half a GB on storage space on you're SD... And the more people that try it, the quicker bugs can be ironed out, and the major things like camera and GPS can be fixed.
Android is worth the workload. It's running smoth on the X1 and much better than WinMobile. Thanks to the developers.
I don't know why it has to Windows Mobile OR Android.
I for once really like the ability to have a multi-os system.
Therefor I try often new Xperoid builds and am quite impressed by the improvement.
Thanks to everyone working on it !
Greetings
SlowlyDead
It's slow....well at least compared to some of the people's Xperia X1 I've been seeing around the net.
What gives? I try and get video drivers and did the tweaking and I haven't gotten any results. Is there any way to make the graphic perform better?
I'm using SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.5 and it's a bit slow, also the Google App of Youtube is unusable for me and the one in XDA performs a little better but high quality videos lag (even with the patch), that or there is a lot of screen tearing.
Any ideas?
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It's slow....well at least compared to some of the people's Xperia X1 I've been seeing around the net.
What gives? I try and get video drivers and did the tweaking and I haven't gotten any results. Is there any way to make the graphic perform better?
I'm using SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.5 and it's a bit slow, also the Google App of Youtube is unusable for me and the one in XDA performs a little better but high quality videos lag (even with the patch), that or there is a lot of screen tearing.
Any ideas?
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Not sure what could be the problem, I have no such lag at all and my X1 performs amazingly well and plays videos without a glitch. Perhaps try converting to 3GP and play through TCPMP... Could it be your current ROM?
I'm using the stock ROM, is there a ROM that performs better?
Not sure though.. Try Jerpelea's custom roms... It's fast for me... And I can watch full screen MV in WMP.. not sure whether you want this..
I think my device is not using 3d hardware acceleration. Dunno how to turn it on >_>
Firstly, roms that use HTC-Sense or Manilla will be slower...
6.1 is faster than 6.5
and only windows media player uses hardware excelleration.
I just downloaded the newest Energy (6.1) rom... will let you know how it goes
also, there is a program that wipes the flash memory before you flash a new rom... I advise you use that as the previous owner may not have done it (if second-hand)
I flashed it with the original stock ROM and started from scratch after I installed everything it was running smoother. I think the guy installing the initial thing just ****ed up somehow. Thanks a lot
ok nevermind it's still working slow, i just did a SKtools bench and my draw bitmaps is 179
thats quite odd, I just flashed the Rogers Stock Rom and ran the SKtools benchmark, and my Draw Bitmaps test scored me a 798. I did this right after flashing so no tweaking was involved. Its quite possible that you may have a hardware issue?
EDIT: I just realized that i changed the pagepool size of the stock rom to 32mb before i flashed
Im on Rogers with 2 x1s and they fly.
but im also running a custom 6.1 rom
as barebones as I could get it.
then added all my stuff. tons of it.
and shes pretty quick
Problem fixed, flashed with 826x and it's working awesome now
I'm using the Topaz 2.53 Stock rom Sense 2.5 with 2.1 Messaging (OS 5.2.21887 Manila 2.5.20113030.0) for almost a year now.
For a long time every thing worked great, messaging worked fast, the hebrew worked perfectly, even the cookie home tab was moderately fast.
In the last two-three months, I noticed that my topaz got significantly slower than it usually was, and that even right after a soft reset (56% of the memory is in use).
I can't understand what had happened, since I haven't installed any new software in the last six months, and haven't changed any setting too.
Has any one else had the same experience ?
hard reset or new phone will cure it.
Some good news and some bad news..
I did do a hard reset, and the phone worked as expected - like new.
I recomend installing the NeoS2007_Driverpack_3, it made the effects look smoother.
After installing CHT (1.8.5 btw) it got a little slower, and after synchronizing with outlook it went back to the original "old" state.
I can say that I could isolate the problem to the home tab, all other tabs are fast.
More over, I can say that overclocking the phone did not solve the problem (or have any effect for that matter).
Can someone tell my if the newer versions of CHT work faster ?
Or is it possible to make the clock smaller and add the flight mode as quicklink without CHT ?
Thanks
Diviner said:
Some good news and some bad news..
I did do a hard reset, and the phone worked as expected - like new.
I recomend installing the NeoS2007_Driverpack_3, it made the effects look smoother.
After installing CHT (1.8.5 btw) it got a little slower, and after synchronizing with outlook it went back to the original "old" state.
I can say that I could isolate the problem to the home tab, all other tabs are fast.
More over, I can say that overclocking the phone did not solve the problem (or have any effect for that matter).
Can someone tell my if the newer versions of CHT work faster ?
Or is it possible to make the clock smaller and add the flight mode as quicklink without CHT ?
Thanks
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hi, i got my Diamond2 in October 2009, so it is not even 2 years old now. the plastic body is not holding so tight anymore, I bought 3 more batteries hoping to last longer than 1 day of intensive (i used those batteries, which were significantly worse after 1-2 months of use and I am back to the original one again). I flashed the ROM several times, used tess for 1 day, duttythroy for 1 day, EnterpriseV for 1 day, and I sticked to EnergyROM with CHT 2.0.0.0 again. having 80mb of free ram after soft-reset is pretty ****ty, but what can I do? still better than using the stock ROM. the phone is slow since I started to use WM65. it was significantly faster on WM61, but the lack of WM65 features made me accept the slow-down.
necessary tweaks - use the advised amounts of cache (use Touch Tools to adjust it), disable animation, no clock flips... keep it to the "low detail game settings..."
tlsty
Happy end
I decided to give the new CHT (meaning 2.0) a try, and that made a big difference.
The home tab is not laggish any more, at least no more than all the other tabs.
Any way, my conclusion is to do a hard reset every once in a while, and more importantly, install every software in the right order.
Thanks guys
Why not performiung a Hard-SPL and get introduced to the awesome world of customRoms? You will be surprised how snappier TD2 feels on a 20922 build plus all the custom rom goodies
EDIT: Oops just read your last post, everything is fine now... but I would recommend you a custom rom based on a far newer build with Cookie HomeTab 2.0 cooked in. It makes a huge difference, believe me.
The problem with using new roms is the hebrew. I have now a rom that the hebrew language does not mess. I'm sure other hebrew speakers managed to overcome this problem even with the use of wm 6.5.x, but for me this rom good enough.
I might want to use the android (including the sense), once it could be made the native OS .