Hey there,
since I'm new to the community I hope I'm not doing it wrong
I will receive my new Herald within the next days and now I'm seeking for all the stuff I will need then.
1. Hard-Spl. I don't get it. What is it? Is it some kind of firmware update or whatever? The ROM's thread says that I would need SPL 4 or later to successfully finish the Update but I can't find that SPL application in version 4+ :/
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437385 - http://www.evolvers.net/Herald_Roms/Version 7.7/ => I'd like to use that ROM. But I'm not too sure whether to use Manilla2D or Omnia.
3. What if I needed to send my device back for warranty reasons. Is there some way to flash back the standard Win Mobile 5.0?
I hope I will get your attention!
Regards,
Chris
Hey there,
A friend of mine just told me about flashing ROMs literally a few days ago. I did my first successful flash just yesterday and I am very happy that I did. FYI, yes I am using a stock TMobile Wing from 2007.
Rom's are not interchangeable across different phone models as far as I know. So you need to get ROMs made for the wing a.k.a. the Herald. Any Rom for the Herald should work.
Just remember one thing that I forgot to do, make sure that you back up your data. I forgot to do this and lost all of my data. Luckily, I did not have any pictures or music that I was too sad to lose. However, I did lose my contacts. Again luckily, I had an old Sim card from last year that had my contacts on it, so I was able to get back 90% of my phonebook, except for a few people that changed numbers or new contacts. So be sure to save anything you want to keep somewhere else.
I am pretty technically savvy, but I must say that flashing the Rom did take me several hours. The process itself only takes about 10 minutes, but it took hours to figure out what type of Rom I needed and how to exactly flash it. You will see many people trying to tell you that you need to know your IPL and SPL version, and there is no way to know this until you start flashing! It wasn't until I did my first accidental flash that it showed me this information, and this ended up being my first successful flash. After trying for several hours the night before and not succeeding, I guess that's why it slipped my mind that flashing successfully would erase all my data.
The one that actually worked for me was the Canonyang Rom. In the link below please look at post number 216, and you will see a link to download the ROM that worked for me. The file is "HardSpl_WM6".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332413&page=22
I tried to flash directly to open touch, and no matter what I tried it was not successful. When I accidentally tried this Canonyang flash it worked successfully the first time, and after that now I was able to flash to any other Rom.
I am currently running open touch light version 6.5 because I read in another thread that it's supposed to be the fastest. I don't need a lot of features so I'm happy with what it has, and it is much, much faster than the stock T-Mobile Rom.
Since you are now getting it, yes, warranty is an issue for you. I am very new to all this, but from what I gather, once you flash, it does void the warranty. Perhaps someone else can answer if there is a stock TMobile rom, that you can flash back to. However, since the roms are digitally signed, I'm not sure that by even doing that, if TMobile can tell you modded it, and therefore elect not to honor your warranty. I guess that's a risk you have to decide if it's worth it or not. IMHO, I found out about rom flashing this week, and my warranty was up last month. However, if I had found out about this during my warranty period, I would have still done it. The Tmobile stock rom is sooo slow, compared to these roms. If you've never used these roms, you'd think like hey, it's got some bugs, but it's not that bad. But if you've used them, you're never going back to stock rom again.
I apologize if there are any typos, as I am using voice to text recognition software that I am testing. I thought I'd help you out by writing this as well as I test it. Good luck and let us know if you have any questions, we're all here to help.
Hey,
thanks for all the information. Was very helpful. I decided to you the ROM from that link. Should work, shouldn't it?
The only thing I don't get is how to get to SPL4+ :/ I heared of different methods of SPLing. Like Hard SPL and USPL. Can you bring light into that cave?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Your link goes to the Open Touch thread. The link I'm referring to, is this one:
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
As I said, I was NOT able to flash directly from stock to OTP. I tried many methods, and Canonyang was the only one that worked for me. After I successfully flashed to CY, then I was able to flash to OTP without issue. But in theory yes, any Herald rom's should work fine.
In regards to IPL/SPL, my wing is from September 2007, and I had IPL/SPL both above 4. I had NO WAY to verify this before flashing. When I initiated the flash for CY, and the wing rebooted, it was THEN I saw my IPL/SPL versions. I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
Actually as I write this to you, I remember a critical step I forgot to tell you. You need to Application Unlock your device as well. This is probably what I was missing in my failed attempts. After I did that, then the CY flash worked. I got that information, from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356295
So I would suggest following the steps there first, then trying the link earlier to flash to CY, then flash to anything else. This is the procedure that worked for me. Good luck!
Hey there and thanks again for that bunch of information
itbmd said:
I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
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What does that mean then? I do not have to HardSPL my phone? But still, would you mind telling my step by step (And I really mean step by step^^) how to HardSPL a device? I really do not want to brick my phone directly at the beginning.
Oh and what should I rather be using, SoftSPL or HardSPL?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Sorry but I just flashed my device less than a week ago as I mentioned. I don't have many of the answers you ask, because I'm asking them myself. I don't know the diff between Hard vs. Soft SPL.
The file I linked you to earlier, is a hardspl, as denoted by its filename "HardSpl_WM6". It hardspl flashes to the canonyang rom. It was then I saw the IPL/SPL versions, and then was able to flash to other roms.
FYI, I was concerned about bricking my device as well. But during the roughly 5 hours I was trying to flash it correctly, every time the flash failed, it did NOT brick. It just errored on the pc, and the Wing itself just restarted and went back to the stock TMobile rom. It never actually bricked. Make sure you do the application unlock though; I think that's a step that people may not do and could cause it to brick. Good luck.
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Great my wizzard is stuck
its on 98% then de blue/green bar on my phone turned red en stays that way it doesnt do anything anymore, after a while my computer says the installation is finished, (SOMETIMES i get an error that has something to do with memory on my computer. or it says usb connection got lost or something)
i can reboot my phone but its going straight in the boot menu with those collors, i can try the downgrade rom again but it keeps getting stuck at 98%
anywone some suggestions?
I tried to install the folowing: CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
becose i wanted to unlock my phone (dont know if its locked or not)
I tried a few other roms but they wont install at all
I forgot some info:
ipl/spl 2.18 so i have/ (HAD) a G3
gsm 01.04.10
os 2.18.1.3
it is an orange m3000 (i have a t-mobile simcard)
im using my sim in another phone do i need the simcard in the m3000 ?
well a few minutes later:
i put my simcard in my phone, but it still hangs
i tried in now on 2 computers but both are stuck at 98%
on my second pc i get the message ERROR [302] : UPDATE ERROR
The ROM update Utility has encountered communication errors during the update process. The program will guide you stem-by-step to recover from te errors so you can continue with the update.
2 choices to click: View Document or Recovery
lol i did the Recovery it made me put out the battery and reboot the phone en replug the cables
well ill try again then... :|
did it about 8 times now, keep getting stuck at 98% notice that the bar becomes red at 98%
anywone please any suggestions? im afraid i bricked my phone
There are 24 people who look at this topic and nowone has a clue what i need to do???
kaasaanfiets said:
I tried to install the folowing: CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
becose i wanted to unlock my phone (dont know if its locked or not)
I tried a few other roms but they wont install at all
I forgot some info:
ipl/spl 2.18 so i have/ (HAD) a G3
gsm 01.04.10
os 2.18.1.3
it is an orange m3000 (i have a t-mobile simcard)
im using my sim in another phone do i need the simcard in the m3000 ?
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is a 1.04.10 radio a valid radio for a 2.xx rom?
If you are stuck, the only/best way to recover is to flash an official rom from your carrier. You can get to the bootloader so you are NOT bricked. You are just flashing roms that have a CID that doesn't match your phones. Try the button rom or the wizard love rom that the unlocking stickies mention repeatedly.
Were your IPL/SPL 2.18 before you started?
Read the Wiki, Read the stickies. For every person that says the process doesn't work there are 100 that it works flawlessly for and 99% of the time those that can't get it to work don't follow all the steps in order or just outright skipped steps or substituted with what THEY thought was better. There is a reason for each and every step in the guides. IF you follow them properly you WILL NOT have any issues.
For the situation you are in now: STOP trying to flash custom roms, you MUST get your phone back to a usable state before you go down that path again. Use your carriers latest available rom to recover your device.
Also you are lucky to get an answer at all because your question is asked in almost every single new thread and every single ROM thread. The answers are already easily found if you take the time to look yourself.
thanks man, i tried the original orange rom and it worked.
RUU_Prodigy_2180103_21801103_OR_NL_DUT_Ship.exe
im so happy, thank you for all your helpful comments
2.18 before i flased is yes.
i wanted to copy a new rom to my device, but i thought it was cid locked.
so i followed step by step the guide from faria
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116&highlight=stuck+at+98%
but i think the problem was that i did not have an aku2 or whatever that means.
Im sorry if im being rude, but you people do a wonderful job on those roms and step by step guide's but u forget that there are people that have no clue what aku2 means when i google is, it says a new rom from t-mobile with wm5 but it doenst say how somewone can check for themselfs if they have an aku2 rom...
Im verry sorry for those noob questions but it look like a heva the same rom that i had before i messed it all up.
so can i install a new rom from here? like one of these?
Pro Black 3[1].0.1.exe
CB-AIRAF.exe
?
kaasaanfiets said:
thanks man, i tried the original orange rom and it worked.
RUU_Prodigy_2180103_21801103_OR_NL_DUT_Ship.exe
im so happy, thank you for all your helpful comments
2.18 before i flased is yes.
i wanted to copy a new rom to my device, but i thought it was cid locked.
so i followed step by step the guide from faria
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116&highlight=stuck+at+98%
but i think the problem was that i did not have an aku2 or whatever that means.
Im sorry if im being rude, but you people do a wonderful job on those roms and step by step guide's but u forget that there are people that have no clue what aku2 means when i google is, it says a new rom from t-mobile with wm5 but it doenst say how somewone can check for themselfs if they have an aku2 rom...
Im verry sorry for those noob questions but it look like a heva the same rom that i had before i messed it all up.
so can i install a new rom from here? like one of these?
Pro Black 3[1].0.1.exe
CB-AIRAF.exe
?
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You will not be able to install a CUSTOM rom until you CID unlock. I don't believe the Black 3.0 rom is available for the Wizard. It is a Hermes rom. There are several WM 6 roms available for the wizard, you should probably look in the WM6 sub-thread once you get yourself completely CID unlocked.
The tutorial tells you everything you need to know, even if you don't know anything about anything. Just read the instructions follow the links to download the roms/tools that it is talking about. If you don't understand the instructions you can post in that thread and the authors or others will help you there. Though they most likely will not respond until you show that you have read and at least have an idea of what you are trying to do, where you started where you are and where you would like to end up. If you don't understand the instructions there is always the IMEI unlockers site that will give you a utility to do it if you want to pay them for it.
Why are you trying to upgrade? Do you need to upgrade? Are you willing to void your warranty on your phone? Can you live without it if something drastic happens and you truly do brick your device, in most cases you will not be able to exchange your phone under warranty? If you haven't defined the first question or answered no to any or all of the other questions you shouldn't be rom flashing, especially not with unapproved roms that aren't supported by your carrier. You need to measure the potential gains against the risk of doing these things to determine if it is right for you. Once you get unlocked and flash a couple of roms you will see that it is easy and relatively safe as long as you read and follow the instructions they are tried and true and do work if they are followed properly.
I would suggest using this thread to unlock your device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Zzan said:
You will not be able to install a CUSTOM rom until you CID unlock. I don't believe the Black 3.0 rom is available for the Wizard. It is a Hermes rom. There are several WM 6 roms available for the wizard, you should probably look in the WM6 sub-thread once you get yourself completely CID unlocked.
The tutorial tells you everything you need to know, even if you don't know anything about anything. Just read the instructions follow the links to download the roms/tools that it is talking about. If you don't understand the instructions you can post in that thread and the authors or others will help you there. Though they most likely will not respond until you show that you have read and at least have an idea of what you are trying to do, where you started where you are and where you would like to end up. If you don't understand the instructions there is always the IMEI unlockers site that will give you a utility to do it if you want to pay them for it.
Why are you trying to upgrade? Do you need to upgrade? Are you willing to void your warranty on your phone? Can you live without it if something drastic happens and you truly do brick your device, in most cases you will not be able to exchange your phone under warranty? If you haven't defined the first question or answered no to any or all of the other questions you shouldn't be rom flashing, especially not with unapproved roms that aren't supported by your carrier. You need to measure the potential gains against the risk of doing these things to determine if it is right for you. Once you get unlocked and flash a couple of roms you will see that it is easy and relatively safe as long as you read and follow the instructions they are tried and true and do work if they are followed properly.
I would suggest using this thread to unlock your device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
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I bought my phone second hand (i dont have a receet of something) so i dont have any warranty anymore
i like my phone but i have troubles with sms the recever keeps getting old of no messages so that why a want another rom
i would be a shame if i brick it, but im willing to try
im doing the steps from your link now, ik istalling te rom at the second point but it still is stuck on 98% :|
is there another 1.5 rom? that i can try? i read someting about the love rom
kaasaanfiets said:
I bought my phone second hand (i dont have a receet of something) so i dont have any warranty anymore
i like my phone but i have troubles with sms the recever keeps getting old of no messages so that why a want another rom
i would be a shame if i brick it, but im willing to try
im doing the steps from your link now, ik istalling te rom at the second point but it still is stuck on 98% :|
is there another 1.5 rom? that i can try? i read someting about the love rom
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The Wizard Love rom is another that people use when the Button rom doesn't work for them. I don't have a link to it but I am sure it is linked in the Upgrading or G4 sub-forums. Maybe even in the Wiki. Sorry haven't been spending much time in the Wizard forums as I only flash my wizard when something breaks, or a new feature is added -- My wife uses that phone now .
There is always the pay to unlock website but you should be able to get it unlocked with either button or the wizard love rom.
Just out of curiosity how long do leave it sitting at 98% before you determine that it is stuck? All roms "stick" at a few points during the flashing process. If you didn't wait at least 5 minutes or get an error on your PC you probably didn't wait long enough. Best advice I have on this is disable all power management/screen savers on your PC set up the flash. Once it starts leave the room and close the door for no less than 30 minutes. This way you can be sure that you didn't interrupt it. For a Wizard the flash should complete in 10 minutes or less. For the Hermes it can take a full 30 minutes depending on your flashing method an which components you are flashing. It is normal to hang for a few minutes at different points during the flash process, just because there is no transfer doesn't mean something isn't being decompressed/written on the device from what has already been transferred over.
Zzan said:
The Wizard Love rom is another that people use when the Button rom doesn't work for them. I don't have a link to it but I am sure it is linked in the Upgrading or G4 sub-forums. Maybe even in the Wiki. Sorry haven't been spending much time in the Wizard forums as I only flash my wizard when something breaks, or a new feature is added -- My wife uses that phone now .
There is always the pay to unlock website but you should be able to get it unlocked with either button or the wizard love rom.
Just out of curiosity how long do leave it sitting at 98% before you determine that it is stuck? All roms "stick" at a few points during the flashing process. If you didn't wait at least 5 minutes or get an error on your PC you probably didn't wait long enough. Best advice I have on this is disable all power management/screen savers on your PC set up the flash. Once it starts leave the room and close the door for no less than 30 minutes. This way you can be sure that you didn't interrupt it. For a Wizard the flash should complete in 10 minutes or less. For the Hermes it can take a full 30 minutes depending on your flashing method an which components you are flashing. It is normal to hang for a few minutes at different points during the flash process, just because there is no transfer doesn't mean something isn't being decompressed/written on the device from what has already been transferred over.
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Yes well i waited the first time for like 15 minutes then my computer shut down the update programm
today i waited like 30 minutes cos i even had dinner.
Well ill try the love rom some other time cos i need my phone to work sunday becose i need tomtom
thank you for your information i appreciate it verry much
i noticed that the original rom that does work: RUU_Prodigy_2180103_21801103_OR_NL_DUT_Ship.exe that one, also flashes red and green while installing so i guess thats normal...
I recently bought an 8125, it came with Farias WM6 custom ROM. After using it for a few days, I realized that I wasn't receiving a lot of my calls when the phone had been in sleep mode for awhile. I found the thread, that this is a known problem with WM6 ROMs, but can't find the thread now. Anyways, there was a cab fix, that I tried and no help. So I tried to flash a new ROM (XDS WM6v3), and the results were that I could not boot up at all, got the 3 colors screen. So I used Wizard Love, which appears to have put me back to WM5, which I am fine with as long as it works. My new problem, is that my storage card is not recognized. Please remember I am almost completely dumb at this, so I need detailed guidance. I have been reading, but the terminology on a lot of things are tough, then I have to read more. I am on dial up, so it is taking forever to try and get a remedy. I just want a working phone, either with WM5 or WM6, it doesn't matter. There are so many ROMS, I am overwhelmed, I would be happy with whatever ROM came stock on this phone as long as it works, receives calls, storage card works, and I can put a few apps on it. Oh its a G4 phone.
HELp
What up fella,
First question, in a card reader, can you access your storage card? WM6 allows users to encrypt the card so its only usable from the pda. You can always reformat the card.
If you are leary or need more time researching, no problem. Then I suggest you reflash the OEM 8125 rom from cingular (U R on cingular, right?). Anyhoo, here is the link to download the OEM rom from HTC's website [Click Here]
Peace
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I recently bought an 8125, it came with Farias WM6 custom ROM. After using it for a few days, I realized that I wasn't receiving a lot of my calls when the phone had been in sleep mode for awhile. I found the thread, that this is a known problem with WM6 ROMs, but can't find the thread now. Anyways, there was a cab fix, that I tried and no help. So I tried to flash a new ROM (XDS WM6v3), and the results were that I could not boot up at all, got the 3 colors screen. So I used Wizard Love, which appears to have put me back to WM5, which I am fine with as long as it works. My new problem, is that my storage card is not recognized. Please remember I am almost completely dumb at this, so I need detailed guidance. I have been reading, but the terminology on a lot of things are tough, then I have to read more. I am on dial up, so it is taking forever to try and get a remedy. I just want a working phone, either with WM5 or WM6, it doesn't matter. There are so many ROMS, I am overwhelmed, I would be happy with whatever ROM came stock on this phone as long as it works, receives calls, storage card works, and I can put a few apps on it. Oh its a G4 phone.
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My understanding is that G4 phones are a little trickier to install custom roms. I'd suggest reading the G4 wizard section until your eyes bleed. My wiz is a G3...and for the record...are you CERTAIN that your phone is G4? If so, I am not totally sure (like I said, I have a G3), but I am not aware of too many custom roms for the G4 devices. As for the storage card issue...remove the card, get into bootload mode, allow it to reset, then put the storage card back in. I found out when my wizard almost died, that SOMETIMES if you have the storage card in the phone while you are flashing and/or hard resetting the device, it sometimes won't read the miniSD. I wish I could help you more. Good luck. Hopefully one of our resident Wizard wizard's will read this and work their magic for you.
How did you verify if this you have a G3 or G4. If you have a G4 realize that you are not going to unlock it, for free anyway. If this is the case your best bet is to use soft spl to flash, right now this is the easiest way. I did it on a G4 Tmobile MDA. But you should first make sure you have a G4, if it is a G3 as I have noticed 8125's are, then you are in luck and you can unlock it and will have no problem flashing any wm6 rom. Send me a PM if you'd like. I am not the wisest but I am willing to provide any advice my newbie self can. worst case you can always put wizard love from the boot screen back on it.
mrgr8ness said:
I recently bought an 8125, it came with Farias WM6 custom ROM. After using it for a few days, I realized that I wasn't receiving a lot of my calls when the phone had been in sleep mode for awhile. I found the thread, that this is a known problem with WM6 ROMs, but can't find the thread now. Anyways, there was a cab fix, that I tried and no help. So I tried to flash a new ROM (XDS WM6v3), and the results were that I could not boot up at all, got the 3 colors screen. So I used Wizard Love, which appears to have put me back to WM5, which I am fine with as long as it works. My new problem, is that my storage card is not recognized. Please remember I am almost completely dumb at this, so I need detailed guidance. I have been reading, but the terminology on a lot of things are tough, then I have to read more. I am on dial up, so it is taking forever to try and get a remedy. I just want a working phone, either with WM5 or WM6, it doesn't matter. There are so many ROMS, I am overwhelmed, I would be happy with whatever ROM came stock on this phone as long as it works, receives calls, storage card works, and I can put a few apps on it. Oh its a G4 phone.
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You posted this problem in another thread,where many senior members gave you valid advises,there was no need to start a new thread for this.
Anyway as you say you don't care much to upgrade and wud be happy with stock cingular Rom,than I must advise you to download the official cingular Rom from it's website and flash,as you say it's a G4,it doesn't require any unlock or any other specific method to flash it being the official Rom,just download and run the 'romupdateutility' application and it'll flash all by itself.Your all problems will be solved.
but if you are willing to upgrade and confident to take the risk than read all the threads regarding G4 devices,before posting and post in the correct thread....But don't start new threads and SPAM!!
cheers
zabardast_1 said:
You posted this problem in another thread,where many senior members gave you valid advises,there was no need to start a new thread for this.
Anyway as you say you don't care much to upgrade and wud be happy with stock cingular Rom,than I must advise you to download the official cingular Rom from it's website and flash,as you say it's a G4,it doesn't require any unlock or any other specific method to flash it being the official Rom,just download and run the 'romupdateutility' application and it'll flash all by itself.Your all problems will be solved.
but if you are willing to upgrade and confident to take the risk than read all the threads regarding G4 devices,before posting and post in the correct thread....But don't start new threads and SPAM!!
cheers
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Thanks for the posts guys. I will be working on this today using the replies. Yes, I know I posted for help in another thread, but the thread has disappeared along with the advice that was given to me. I had it bookmarked to come back to, but the link is now not found. I now only have 2 posts, the 2 in this thread.
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Thanks for the posts guys. I will be working on this today using the replies. Yes, I know I posted for help in another thread, but the thread has disappeared along with the advice that was given to me. I had it bookmarked to come back to, but the link is now not found. I now only have 2 posts, the 2 in this thread.
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Oh ! ok it's alright but just make up you mind and have clear concepts as to what you really like to do,do you want to go back to stock wm5 rom or interested in upgrading to newer wm6 upgrades,cuz in either situation the methods are entirely different,as you have a G4 device,remember it's a very tricky device,anyway it's all upto your decision,but whatever you decide,we are here to help you out the best we cud
good luck
Thanks! I would rather just go back to the stock ROM, get something that works and take the pressure off, by not having a working device. Then I can spend time at my leisure, to learn, and maybe down the road I may be more interested in custom ROMs.
Update-I reflashed Wizard Love, and still cannot access my storage card. I then loaded the stock ROM from HTC's website, from the link above. I still cannot access my storage card. It says my expansion slot is in use, but I can't see the card under memory, file explorer, or exploring from Active Sync.
Another update- Tried another card, and it worked. Tried my card in another phone, and it didn't recognize it. I will be borrowing a card reader and reformatting. If it doesn't work, then somehow my card went bad, coincidenatally at the same time I flashed a new ROM.
Update- Got a reader and re-formatted the card-- I am back in business, and the phone can actually receive calls, after sleeping all night! Thanks to all!
Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
Hello out there.....
First of all i have to say THX to all these people which are really willing to help every1 with their great tutorials. Ive used alot of them already. Thanks.
And i have to say sorry for my english language, due Im german and i left school behind long time ago. I'm really taken pains to write this comment.
Now, in my case ive tried to restore my device (Xperia X1i) to OEM status step by step as its shown in this thread.
My worst issue is that my touchscreen aint work anymore after i flashed a custom ROM and that i got stock at the point where the ROM wants to configure the OS like "Tap the screen to continue with configuration".
Ive tried to flash way too much ROMs using HardSPL but the touchscreen wont let me do anything - no reaction.
So how can I restore the bootloader (SPL) on my device, when my touchscreen aint work? How can I take the following step without any working ROM ?
sirsycho said:
12. Run SSPL.KAIS.exe from your phone (make sure you do this on your actual device and not your PC)
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I do not know what I did wrong, that the screen wont react anymore, but im sure that the SPL is the cause for this disaster.
I'm really desperate couz i already have sent the device to the SE Support, where they told me that there is an "extraneous" on my device although ive flashed the Stock ROM firstly... there was still something that bothered them...
After i got the device back the touchscreen worked again as funny, allthough the support did nothing on the device as they said in the delivery.
A bit skeptical but with alot of happiness i kept on flashing some ROMs after that.
Now, after i found a good ROM and kept this one on my device for some days the screen doesnt work again.....
This is what my bootloader says right now
Code:
KOVS110
SPL-0.72.OliNex
MicroP1-787
MicroP2-707
....seems like the HardSPL is still there......
Honistly i had to apollogize (maybe too late) that this part of using a cellphone (flashing a ROM using HardSPL etc.) is a big fish and that ive underrated it. Now i have a 400$-Device which aint work anymore
Ive read like all Tutorials here at xda-devs containing something about flashing a ROM or informations about SPLs; tried everything
I feel like im lost and fu**ed right now....
Is there any1 can help me with my problem?
Hopefully there is.....i pray for him
first flash a stock rom
then just run the hard-spl exe, and replace the ruu_signed.nbh file
why are you trying to use kaiser spl?
use the things found in the hardspl sticky in the xperia section
Wrong Tutorial
You're using tutorial for wrong device (HTC Kaiser)
The correct tutorial is in first post (extra how to: how to restore Stock SPL for warranty reasons.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
But before restoring original hardspl you should flash with original rom found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
wow thanks for your answers !!
i never thought ill get response.
Its really weird that i havnt found that tut before bcuz i was looking through whole board.
I will try do that tomorrow.
I hope that it will work then. Don't wanna pay 300$ for a new device
Else there is mtty to restore the bootloader
Aight i have done the steps showing in the tutorial.
1. I have flashed teh Stock ROM (R2A german - Vodafone)
2. I've used the RUU with the stockSPL given in that post.
Now my tricolour screen shows the following
Code:
KOVS110
SPL-0.72.0000
MicroP1-787
MicroP2-707
This is what it shall looks like OliNex said.
I hope this is all i had to do, to make use of my device's guarantee, cuz the touchscreen still doesnt work
Seems like i really have to send my Xperia to the Support again (now hopefully with a ROM + SPL they wont reject)
But if i send my device with "extraneous" again i have to pay another 15€ just for let them do a costs estimate -.-
I would like to get a reply before i make use of the support again.
Thanks for all your help
Glad to hear recovering to stock rom + spl worked out.
Your touchscreen doesn't work when you have booted up windows?
If that's correct then I suggest to send in the device for service. Although
it might not help I suggest updating your device with SE updating service (SEUS) first.
After the flash remove the battery for 10 seconds, then turn it on.
Hope it helps and otherwise servicing the device is free of charges
Haha!
That's what im doing right now, using SEUS
Thanks for the tip with the battery but i already tried that way too often
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Ok, touchscreen still aint work....
Time to contact the support...at 11:45 PM **WOOT
nvm....Ill wait till tomorrow
gn8 and thanks for helping me with my issue ^^
a few days ago I returned my silver X1 for the same issue, my touch screen (digitizer) doesn't work. Then right in front of SE support person, he justed took out the battery and rebooted. Then it worked. The thing is, I did the same thing several times earlier that day and it did NOT worked. I am worrying of getting the same problem again and I only have until november 30th until my 1 year warranty expires. I haven't tried any cooked roms and it is because of warranty purpose. Altough I'm not new to custom roms since I own an Alpine and a Prophet. I've been here for some time now.
The thing that holds me back testing cooked roms on my Xperia is the aftermath if in case my device goes half-dead. I almost always read the restoring on to official roms everytime I get here, but still the thousand dollar spent on my phone's tag price comes with a fear of who's gonna rescue if my phone won't work. And to add that spare parts aren't available here as of the moment. And yes I'm eager and very curious about almost everyone saying cooked 6.5 is faster than stock roms but though I haven't tested it I have to disagree for now on my case basis.
First, my Xperia doesn't come with a carrier lock. It's locally called "open line" in my country I guess technically called debranding. Then my phone has the generic r3a rom via seus I think it's generic uk. Lastly, for some reasons, the touchflo 3d doesn't work with my device I've tried it since r1 firmware time. Some response told me to unlock-debrand my phone first but I dont have to since it isn't locked. Still installing tf3d makes my phone hang, doesn't uninstall, doesn't show in the themes list if installed as a theme, and doesn't let me have another panel since it always stay as tf3d whenever I choose another one. And it is very unstable in my device. These happened even if I install it as a panel.
I feel handsets here are faster than handsets that are locked by a carrier so I'm thinking again since for now, my Xperia works for me as stock as it is.
Hi,
My experience today is the motive of me writing this guide to help most of you out of this problem and eliminate the Fear that you will have of you blackstone might gone bad (hardware fault).
ok,
here is what happend to me today.
I had XannyTech Rom flashed on my phone and i really felt i found something interesting about another ROM so i decided to flash that one.
after a smooth flashing, the phone booted and i started syncing using myphone.
left the phone on the desk for a while, came back and found that the device is not responding to the power button, poked that red button and the phone get's stuck at the "smart mobility" screen!!
Hard resetted the phone and started over, again the phone hanged.
i thought that it's maybe a bad flash! so i downloaded the file again and flashed again.
still the same!!!!
decided to go to the old ROM ,
still after a while i get the same result!
notice that i hard resetted after each and every flash!
so what did i do?
[Guide]
Hard Reset the phone, check if it's a software you installed or if it happens even on a pure ROM.
If the problem still exist, Confirm it's not a bad flash! flash again the same ROM.
If you still have the same symtoms, go to HTC website and download the latest OFFICIAL ROM from there.
Run the RUU from your pc (Don't worry about HSPL, it's protected so you will NOT have to HSPL your device again, Thanks olinex)
Test your phone with the new official ROM (in my case -blackstone- it's a 6.1 rom ). Mostly everything will be back to normal.
flash the rom of your choice.
I don't have a real explaination about this (maybe someone with more experience can do) but it works! and even the ROM works faster .
Hope you find this usefull.
Regards,
Adel
I will remember this if it happens to me!
Thank you!
For me, with the HSPL, when I went back to original rom, I had a big problem with color. I flashed to old SPL too, and so, color where good after
Wiki
Not a huge problem, it's well documented
Understanding 1.56 Roms (Greenscreen issue & Flashing)
edit : oops, the link is accessable from the wiki
re the topic:
Looks like Viagra cant fix this issue then
anaadoul said:
Not a huge problem, it's well documented
Understanding 1.56 Roms (Greenscreen issue & Flashing)
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Hi
You should fix your link and put wiki instead if forum
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Hi
You should fix your link and put wiki instead if forum
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it is good to see that you have followed the link
anaadoul said:
I don't have a real explaination about this (maybe someone with more experience can do) but it works! and even the ROM works faster .
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Well, I am not sure, but it seems that Official ROMs not only flash your phone, but also "format" it.
You may want to have a look at this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290) for more references, but the fact is that "flashing" means issuing some commands to the phone. These commands are all about uploading the ROM data in the appropriate section of the NVRAM/EEPROM (I am not an expert, but I think I am more or less near to reality with such a description).
In the Official ROM's case, more commands are issued and some of these commands "clean" completely your phone, making route for a clean installation and a good one.
I don't know (I am not a cooker, nor an expert) why cookers can't or won't issue those commands in their ROMs, but soon after flashing an official one, you have a "clean" phone that is not affected by random behaviour, due properly to the commands that only official one's issues during the flash.
Hope this may help
Regards
Ehol
Ehol said:
Well, I am not sure, but it seems that Official ROMs not only flash your phone, but also "format" it.
You may want to have a look at this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290) for more references, but the fact is that "flashing" means issuing some commands to the phone. These commands are all about uploading the ROM data in the appropriate section of the NVRAM/EEPROM (I am not an expert, but I think I am more or less near to reality with such a description).
In the Official ROM's case, more commands are issued and some of these commands "clean" completely your phone, making route for a clean installation and a good one.
I don't know (I am not a cooker, nor an expert) why cookers can't or won't issue those commands in their ROMs, but soon after flashing an official one, you have a "clean" phone that is not affected by random behaviour, due properly to the commands that only official one's issues during the flash.
Hope this may help
Regards
Ehol
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Good explaination!
also while i was extracting a shiped ROM i got an unknown nb file which might be responsible for this?
what you have said means that as long as you are flashing a larger sized ROM you should have no problem, but once the new ROM have a smaller size then you will face some issues?!
oh, one more thing.
after formating the phone with the stock ROM, i noticed that it runs much faster (around 15% performance increase) can anyone try flashing shipped ROM then the same one he was using and confirm this?