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Basically, I am underwhelmed
After a few hours playing, my thoughts .....
The Good
Nice size
Looks good
Screen resolution
The bad
Touch interface is crap. Give me SPB Mobile Shell any day
The on/off switch is easily knocked on/off - in the pocket or especially when using the slip case
Frequent waits for a response from a screen press -so you press it again, and again, and again and then things lock up or slow down.
The back gets really hot when using GPS or heavy 3G use
... and the ugly
The phone looks a bloody greasy slimy slippery mess after being in the hand for only two minutes
A triumph of form over function
I wonder what other little gems are waiting to be discovered
Touch interface is crap. Give me SPB Mobile Shell any day
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Tweaks solve this problem.
The on/off switch is easily knocked on/off - in the pocket or especially when using the slip case
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This is indeed a big problem, if true.
Frequent waits for a response from a screen press -so you press it again, and again, and again and then things lock up or slow down.
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As I said above, tweaking solve it.
The back gets really hot when using GPS or heavy 3G use
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How hot can it get ?, stop being a child.
The phone looks a bloody greasy slimy slippery mess after being in the hand for only two minutes
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You can buy a case that will always be on. It will be better protected too.
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The phone looks a bloody greasy slimy slippery mess after being in the hand for only two minutes
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Maybe you shouldn't have eaten fried chicken before using it
tweaking is always the answer.. but why bother?
so it seems that even this Diamond that was announced as SO great needs tweaking to be REALLY usable :-(
But why do HTC always require to do all the job of installing, testing, tweaking, re-testing, uninstalling (as soft is not compatible with 'just' this device) , re-installing another one, test it for a few days, etc...
(including all the crashes that we have while testing it)
Lame !
Shame on HTC and Windows Mobile for making an OS where not-everything may work great.
Well.. iPhone then.
Come on, it's worth it just for Teeter! I've just finished it, need to call it a night.
Seriously though, the accelerometer by itself is a brilliant addition and I'm sure some amazing applications will come of it.
PaulusUK said:
Basically, I am underwhelmed
After a few hours playing, my thoughts .....
The Good
Nice size
Looks good
Screen resolution
The bad
Touch interface is crap. Give me SPB Mobile Shell any day
The on/off switch is easily knocked on/off - in the pocket or especially when using the slip case
Frequent waits for a response from a screen press -so you press it again, and again, and again and then things lock up or slow down.
The back gets really hot when using GPS or heavy 3G use
... and the ugly
The phone looks a bloody greasy slimy slippery mess after being in the hand for only two minutes
A triumph of form over function
I wonder what other little gems are waiting to be discovered
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lol!
Wait until you need to use the speakerphone or direct push mail, and your battery only lasts 3 hours on standby.
mital said:
lol!
Wait until you need to use the speakerphone or direct push mail, and your battery only lasts 3 hours on standby.
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Well, I use those and my phone lasts till the end of the day, How long have you had the phone? I have noticed with every charge the batterys improves.
Mital, you hd it for a few weeks now ?
happy overall or not ?
The battery is going to be that bad for most device when using push email, I have my HTC Trion and if push email on with GPRS it last a bit more than a working day, if Wifi then just around 8 hours,
seem sno much differece with Dimond then.
My first major problem was that of no GPS access - several programs would not access the GPS and the phone would freeze when the GPS was accessed. Then I loaded Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and this completely locked the phone - TouchFlo worked, but nothing would open when clicked on, and no change after soft resets either.
So, the first hard reset.
Then after reinstalling some GPS software, still no access to the GPS - and no changes in the com port settings made any difference.
So after much faffing about, the second hard reset.
So here I am scared to touch the phone in case I upset it and it frezes me out again!
And I think Opera hogs the resourses not only in use, but even after its closed down. The diamond works even slower after I have used Opera. Wierd.
And yes it is red hot after GPS and GPRS/3G use. I will measure it tonight with and IR thermometer, but there is no way it can be handheld for a long time at that temperature.
I suppose I could fry some bacon and eggs on it while waiting for the OS to do something. lol
Mmm, bacon and eggs sounds good to me, count me in!
I have to say I'm not experiencing the problems your getting. The only problem, which is easily solved, is that I don't get as good reception as with other phones Ive previously owned, but Ive noticed there are a few Radio updates floating around XDA Developers so will look into that.
With regards to programs not closing correctly, i found that making sure that when the 'X' is touched it closes down the program, does it for me.
Also my GPS works flawlessly with Tom Tom. I think you may unfortunately have a faulty unit as im not experiencing any of what your suggesting. My phone gets warm but never hot enough for Bacon AND Eggs
I find the handset can be a bit frustrating when typing sometimes, but thats always been the case with touch screen phones and people who say that they are perfect and better than a hardware keyboard are telling porkies! HTC arent there yet, but for me, there not far off!
Seriously tho, im sorry to hear that your getting problems and hopefully they will be solved soon.
Well, I have my Diamond since mid-June and I have to say that at first I wasn't very impressed with its speed.
The TF3D was very jerky and took a long to respond to my inputs.
Since my unit was one of those grey imports from HK made by Expansys, I thought that it probably had something to do with it, mainly a very early ROM (It's my third HTC model and I'm used to buy it and then tweak it).
So I started to look in the xda-dev forum and to try some of the ROMs, tweaks and cab files that our xda-dev resident geniuses provide.
And I must say that my Diamond is behaving very well, certainly a lot, lot better than it did a month ago.
- I never had major problems with any kind of software (not that I have a lot of stuff installed)
- The 4Gb storage memory is (for the time being) enough for my needs.
- The GPS (with TomTom 6), BT, WiFi and all that is working OK.
- The battery duration improved and it lasts for a day or more (more significantly since ROM update)
- The VGA screen is a must
On the other hand it does get a bit hot doing certain tasks, but so does my laptop when I have it sitting in my lap.
Also, even though HTC made a huge effort (in my opinion) to make a more 'user friendly' interface, don't forget that it still runs on MS WM6, and that, for now, is something that we have to live with.
Overall, I recommend it, but to get the most of it, you really need to keep looking for updates (and xda-dev is the best place for it) to improve its performance.
Regards,
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
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try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...
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try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...
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I've done it already. I've played with every setting known by me.
Still doesnt work. I just flashed to 6.0. And again - there is no such issue.
Thanks for suggestion!
woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with
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woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with
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Thanks Infuruno for your suggestion. I think you have a good point in that disortion but there is one big difference in our problem, and I don't know why.
Its the WM version. Now I'm runnig 6.0 without any problem. Even if I want to do this - it never occurs. And I mean never!. I don't know what's wrong here
Anyway I'll soon try to buy the touch screen for Kaiser and change it.
Cheers,
Chris
6.0 seemed to have sensitivity set on normal by default while the 6.1 by default the sensitivity is set of high (> normal) at least looking at the official t-mobile 6.0 and every other 6.1 rom i've tested, and the touch screen thing is just a theory i came up while well literally as i posted that message just started putting things i've seen together maybe if someone who didn't have the problem could see if they got distortion before you buy a new touch screen.
I just got my Tilt (I came from the Sprint Touch) and I've noticed the same thing. I never used a 6.0 ROM, the guy I bought it from already had a 6.1 ROM on it and I flashed it to HyperDragon's PRO III ROM when I got it.
I was used to my Sprint Touch and it had a 6.1 ROM on it as well and didn't have a problem. It is very annoying if I try to use an onscreen keyboard for those times that I don't want to pull out the other one.
Done more tests.
Today I've installed new HyperDragon III Pro (great ROM ) and I still got that issue. After that - flashed Dutty's V4 RTM (6.0) - and you know what? It works just perfect.
I don't know wtf is wrong with that.
What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?
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What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?
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Hmm, nothing at all.
I've tried that every time. That doesn't work on that
Thanks!
This just sucks ass.... I really don't know what to do. I just flashed HD III Pro, Its great ROM, and I cannot use it cause of this ****ing screen thing.
Flashed back to random 6.0 --- no problems. Damnit!
Same problem for me, very hard to make a call
Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.
mindfrost82 said:
Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.
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I've done really many tries with various options and various configurations before I posted the thread. Nothing - absolutely nothing seems to help.
kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
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I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.
zsilak said:
I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.
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I wonder then where is the problem? Maybe its a problem with some models of Kaiser?
I'm surprised there's not more people with this problem. Are you guys using an AT&T branded Tilt or HTC-branded, or other?
There's gotta be something in common with all of us.
What Hard-SPL version are you guys using that have the problem?
i have same problem
someday i flashed a new rom and i cant manage how to resolve this. i have that even on wm 6.0 roms. im setting up the sensitivity and it helps just locally, not fully at all. tried high sensitive on my friends kaiser and there is nothing worng with that.
i have tried many spls, but none of them seems to work
can anyone help with that?
i dont want to change my screen
ive tried many systems and spsl before, but never noticed this action.
please, somebody help with that.
I have an old Palm Tugsten T3 that started doing that, the way I fixed it was I went to the screen alignment page and clicked near the top of the bulls eye insted of the center of it, fixed it right up. try that and let me know how that works.
Hello, I was doing some thinking after using Android on the kaiser. What about having the backlight fade out while not in use and fade in when touched, much like Android or any of the newer HTC's?
If it worked in Android already then it should be somewhat easy to do in WM if it can be controlled.
Basically the backlight would dim from the user set amount to something close to being totally off, but not actually off. then when used it would quickly and smoothly fade back to the users setting.
Though i'm not a developer (skinner really) anyone want to try to do it? And anyone interested in something like this?
I think this would be great for the Kaiser and would welcome this feature...
Yes please fix this stupid backlight issue on our Kaiser. I would like to see the above fix worked out.
I think this would be a excellent addition to the tilt!
Anyone know if there is a method to accomplish this?
i like the sound of it
Me too! If it can happen in anroid, I am sure it can happen in WM as well! Maybe some software guru can help us out...
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Me too! If it can happen in anroid, I am sure it can happen in WM as well! Maybe some software guru can help us out...
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I believe that those newer models have additional components that make this happen. (PROXIMITY SENSOR I THINK). and since we dont have it, the only possible way would be to have the phone dim really low, but still be active(not standby), and your phone would basically never be allowed to go into standby(battery killer).
thats what i think thou, nothing official.
thats weird,i watched my tilt and it dimmed like my g1 did ,just not as dark,and if i wait longer it will shut off the screen ,like the g1.but when the screen shuts off on the g1 the phone gets locked and you have to press a button then menu to unlock it or slide it open,on the tilt i just press the power button and the screen comes on or sliding it open.
Hello
wanted to get everyone's opinion to whats the best lock app for our phones. i have tried several and i have problems with a lot of them.
i really like phone buddy, but i find it uses too much memory and power.
pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked and i think i had a memory problem as well.
s2u2 is what i have used before and i do like it. but i had a problem with the volume on calls.
not sure if its something else im running.. im running the diamond2 g sensor and that may be it. or something else... not sure
help and suggesting would be great. i would like to find something i can use on my phone.
thanks
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pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked and i think i had a memory problem as well.
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pocketshield. best i've found, no impact on battery life and answering the phone is great. download the latest (they've been updating it alot) and turn off the shake wake up (gestures), light wakeup, center button, and stylus (so the only thing is slide down). i haven't had it wake up unexpectedly with those settings.
i tried s2u2 along time ago, but have heard from multiple sources that it negatively influenced battery life. anyone know if this is still true?
i liked pocketshield a lot but like i said, i turned the phone off so it would lock, as soon as i turned the phone on it would unlock without me fliping it or anything else.
the answer thing is nice but i like the slide to answer i already have. if it didnt disable that when i used the pocketshield one i would use it.
like i said, im not sure if something else if causing my issues.... i think i may uninstall the dimond2 g sensor.
still cant find any lock app that will work well.... sensorlock and glocker dont work at all. and pocketshield works for a short time but stops. not sure if its cause you have to pay for it. i would pay for it if it worked for a while with no problems. dont wanna pay for it and have the same problems.
any ideas?
S2U2
try using S2U2 fully configurable and if done right does not use up battery.
http://www.ac-s2.com/
I use S2U2. Doesn't affect my battery life
using S2U2 with tPro skin... nice
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try using S2U2 fully configurable and if done right does not use up battery.
http://www.ac-s2.com/
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S2U2 is my favorite.
On a fast ROM (Like most of the ROM's on our forums), the program runs smoothly and nice.
I also like being able to pick pictures of my dog, or my bike, for the screens.
But my best practice for locking the phone is simply lock it out of habit when you put it away. Have "Slide to wake" disabled unless you really use it.
pocketshield for me, i had a few issues in the earlier releases but the newest is absolutely perfect, and pretty much everything is configurable to how i like it! seriously try the new one out and play in the settings to tweak it
Just use the new vertion of S2u2 together with the new skin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467435
Works without problem. and looks good.
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pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked...
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Maybe you have "light unlock" enabled and it is unlocking before you even notice it? (actually its the way it should be if you enable that feature)
has anyone tried throttle lock ? it has a slide to answer when you recieve calls while locked and it unlocks by drawing a pattern on a 3X3 grid of dots . Its a real nice app and has at least 35 different skins and is customizable. (customizing is rather arduous and takes awhile to do when it comes to making a new skin)
can anybody help me find Phone Buddy? i was trying to search it and i am not getting an conclusive results. The only thread that cmae up with anything is this thread....
S2U works just fine on my TP with stock rom, no negative battery impact noticable.
It seems all locking programs seem to have their own 'locked screen' that goes over the today screen. I have customized my today screen to have all the information i need at a glance and don't need another one.
I think Touchlock Pro is the only recent one that does not have this but I have other issues with it. Are there others I have missed?
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It seems all locking programs seem to have their own 'locked screen' that goes over the today screen. I have customized my today screen to have all the information i need at a glance and don't need another one.
I think Touchlock Pro is the only recent one that does not have this but I have other issues with it. Are there others I have missed?
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I'm using AnswerkeysDisabler which locks the touch screen completely when a call comes in. Answering is only with the hardware keys. It's simple - no home screens, no swinging the phone around in circles to answer or anything Just plain works (as touch pro has those HW keys).
I found it from here somewhere - try it.
I use sensor lock. It's great! You can use phone gestures with the accelerometer to unlock your phone. For example, you can rotate your phone 360ยบ to lock/unlock it.
Here is the app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
WOW, Before I start please don't flame me for maybe some stupid questions !!!
Having used my artemis for well over 2 yrs now , i've flashed, put apps on it , re-installed various ROM's & got it working to my likening.
Now I treated myself to the Diamond which I think is currently one of the best on the market as it stands,
Well here we go, WM6.5 - Does the Diamond take the OS safely ?? Like the format, but don't want to get rid of TouchFLO 3D coz it rocks !!
Is it a different app i need for customization of themes instead of Manilla 2D ??
Can i use the same IGO8 & TOM TOM that i've got or is that for QVGA only (basically will it work on the Diamond VGA ? )
Oh ! and anymore help would be appreciated
Many Thanks, D
Hey, I also just changed from the artemis after 2 years to the diamond. I've installed tomtom 6 onto the diamond which worked perfect on the artemis. I haven't been outside yet to see if it works, I guess it will. But even with no signal, there's usually a row of grey circles in the waiting for gps signal screen on the artemis, and mine is blank on the diamond. Tomtom7 might be better, dunno yet. Igo8 was slow as **** on the artemis, too memory intensive especially with those 3D maps so I binned it. Might be better on the diamond. Diamond has some great features, but you will probably, like me, be disappointed with a few things, such as:
Volume not as loud as artemis, particularly important when driving on noisy motorways and you want to hear the sat nav voice louder. There's a tweak on this forum for volume.
On/off button on top, much nicer on artemis on right side.
Soft reset button trickier to press as it's located inside the stylus housing. On artemis, as you know, it's on the left side.
Light goes off during phone calls after 4 seconds.
Using the stylus on the diamond screen is harder work than the artemis, you have to press more.The artemis is much better for that.
Gets very warm at the bottom of the device, artemis didn't.
Less physical buttons of course than the artemis, and the settings/buttons assignment tab is practically non existent, you'll need to get a 3rd party app.
No camera button like the one on the right side of the artemis.
Battery indicator shows blocks and no % numbers, no big deal I suppose.
Touch flow 3D is nice but makes things fiddly and a bit confusing till you get used to it. Sometimes I turn it off to get the same UI as the artemis, it makes getting around the device easier and looks less cluttered.
Screen is fractionally smaller I think.
Mr Roman5, do you think the Diamond is not as good as the artemis on spec alone maybe, or is it gonna take a bit of time to get used to the software ??
Cheers, D
Before i flash, any recommendations coz every ROM I've looked at looks TOP DOLLAR !!!
The diamond is better spec for sure, faster processor, better camera (3.2mp instead of 2.0) wifi, 3G, touch screen, etc. It's just that I miss certain features of the artemis that allowed me to go between applications incredibly easily. However, I definitely recommend the diamond. I've been adding tweaks that I found on here and that has improved things a lot already. It's definitely quite a fun phone.
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The diamond is better spec for sure, faster processor, better camera (3.2mp instead of 2.0) wifi, 3G, touch screen, etc. It's just that I miss certain features of the artemis that allowed me to go between applications incredibly easily. However, I definitely recommend the diamond. I've been adding tweaks that I found on here and that has improved things a lot already. It's definitely quite a fun phone.
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Don't want to annoy you or bug you, but what about some of the questions i was asking earlier, WM6.5, Custimations, ETC, Sorry D.
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Don't want to annoy you or bug you, but what about some of the questions i was asking earlier, WM6.5, Custimations, ETC, Sorry D.
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Oh, not annoying me at all, I've been asking loads of questions myself as the diamond is a brand new toy for me.
I'm afraid I don't have the faintest clue about your other questions, but I reckon someone here will probably say that WM6.5 will work ok so you might be in luck. As far as themes, I don't know that either, and I would love to have one particular theme myself if someone knows. The blue one that the artemis has. That's the windows default one on artemis I think, and the one I've always used on that phone. Currently I've got guava bubbles theme on the diamond and without the TF3D on, the whole screen goes a really vibrant and warm sort of flameburst orange and red colour.
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Oh, not annoying me at all, I've been asking loads of questions myself as the diamond is a brand new toy for me.
I'm afraid I don't have the faintest clue about your other questions, but I reckon someone here will probably say that WM6.5 will work ok so you might be in luck. As far as themes, I don't know that either, and I would love to have one particular theme myself if someone knows. The blue one that the artemis has. That's the windows default one on artemis I think, and the one I've always used on that phone. Currently I've got guava bubbles theme on the diamond and without the TF3D on, the whole screen goes a really vibrant and warm sort of flameburst orange and red colour.
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Getting there slowly but surely, themes as in TF3D, i used the customization on the artemis but reading the forum there is one i might need to use for the Diamond, but surely i'll get there with some of the great members of this thread, Heh Heh
Hey, I mentioned the gps and tomtom. Well, it's way better than the artemis for a fix. I've just been outside and got a fix for both copilot and tomtom6 in a matter of seconds. That's in my car, in the phone holder, WITH the silicon case over it. Even after switching off the phone for a few minutes and rebooting, it got an instant fix. I'll test it further by leaving the phone off for an hour and see how fast it is then. But, at least it works!
EDIT: retested by switching phone back from cold 45 minutes later. Yes, instant gps fix, woohoo! Compared to 2 minutes or sometimes more on the artemis, this has to be the single best thing about the diamond. I hope it continues to find a fix quickly in different areas.