Is there ANY possibility that the Xperia X1 has a hidden accelerometer in it? As it was HTC who manufactured it and as HTC loves to hide some cool features of some devices, do you think X1 has an accelerometer hiden in it?
And IF it has... how can we discover it? Any ways or only if HTC or Sony tell us?
Thanks in advance!
hasn't someone disassembled the X1?
Im pretty sure they didn't find an accelerometer
I've seen a video of Xperia getting dismantled, Havn't seen anything that looks like a Accelerometer.
Does someone have a screenshot how the hardware supose to look like?
See this: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1028928&native_or_pdf=pdf
Pix from dismantheling... Thanks to: XavierGr
i've tried all the usual accelerometer drivers and tweaks and they don't work so I presume there's not one.
Is there a hardware dump utility like lspci that we can run to see what's there?
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Yes, it has 1 4.00%
Maybe it has 7 28.00%
No, it hasn´t 17 68.00%
Who said yes?
LOL I was hopping for hidden tmobile usa 3g band.
romeo0119 said:
LOL I was hopping for hidden tmobile usa 3g band.
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And i was hoping for a hidden iPhone
Insaneboy said:
And i was hoping for a hidden iPhone
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Don't swear
I was hoping for a Bugatti Veyron....
I dont know if it has a g sensor or not but if it does it is well hidden. I thought the X1 only had A-GPS too until i found a program that unlocks the real FULL GPS so it might still be possible.
Maybe you will have to go for the X2 if you really need the accelerometer
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Huh? There's still speculation about the X1 having an accelerometer?? Thought that's like history already.
thats easy.
just let it drop from like 2 meters height. if it accellerates then it should have an basic accelerometer. if it drops at constant speed then it doesnt.
if it doesnt drop at all then it should have an hooverometer.
i would test it for you but i am currently at a spacestation right now and the test would show up "hooverometer" all the time.
if it drops to the ground you should hear a noise. if it is a loud and clear "CLANK!" then it has definitely an accelerometer. if it is a relatively soft "clank!" then it doesnt have one. its probably very hard to distinguish between "CLANK!" and "clank!". i suggest you record the noise and upload it here to have another poll!
even if there is nothing mentioned in the white-paper and not a single driver available and no sign of an application whatsoever ... this conspiracy should be solved once and for all. also there is still the "tv-out issue" to solve. yesterday my x1 was floating near my tv and the tv-screen did still show a picture!!!
good luck,
- quadword
QuadWord said:
thats easy.
just let it drop from like 2 meters height. if it accellerates then it should have an basic accelerometer. if it drops at constant speed then it doesnt.
if it doesnt drop at all then it should have an hooverometer.
i would test it for you but i am currently at a spacestation right now and the test would show up "hooverometer" all the time.
if it drops to the ground you should hear a noise. if it is a loud and clear "CLANK!" then it has definitely an accelerometer. if it is a relatively soft "clank!" then it doesnt have one. its probably very hard to distinguish between "CLANK!" and "clank!". i suggest you record the noise and upload it here to have another poll!
even if there is nothing mentioned in the white-paper and not a single driver available and no sign of an application whatsoever ... this conspiracy should be solved once and for all. also there is still the "tv-out issue" to solve. yesterday my x1 was floating near my tv and the tv-screen did still show a picture!!!
good luck,
- quadword
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hahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhaahahahhahahahah!
Nicely done! Thank you for saving me from getting banned, because I was this close to insult someone...
vrracing said:
I dont know if it has a g sensor or not but if it does it is well hidden. I thought the X1 only had A-GPS too until i found a program that unlocks the real FULL GPS so it might still be possible.
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its has GPS... its listed as having GPS... all GPS programs work without drivers or any tweaks needed >.<
Would be pretty funny if they had hidden a g-sensor in it just for fun...
If there was a hidden iphone in my x1 I would start crying.
It has an accelerometer. It's found right next to the extra RAM and the TV-Out port, all three are clearly labelled if you care to open your X1 and find out. The best part? They're all activated simply by pushing a little pixie shaped button near the bottom of the handset's interior.
Jablko said:
Would be pretty funny if they had hidden a g-sensor in it just for fun...
If there was a hidden iphone in my x1 I would start crying.
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A dev could have a bit of fun with that. Add an accelerometer, hide it and don't tell anyone. Then patch the device 6 months down the line with an update that makes the screen switch off whenever the phone is moving and switch on whenever it's stationary.
Worth the lolz? The guys in charge of the repairs/complaints departments would likely say no.
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Hello all!
it's my first post, so i hope i gonna make all correct...
Im looking for a water-level software (not sure if it's the right word in english). I think with the accelerometer it would be possible to develop a tool that make possible to use the diamond as a water-level (for measuring if a surface or a wall is in level or how much degrees have a surface etc...). I've looked around and used google, but i didn't find something like that (have also searched if there is a tool like that for the iphone).
Did someone know if there exist such a software? or is there someone, who can develop this? im sure, this would be a great idea for a tool !
Something like this......
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yes right!
if I knew how I would do it, i would develope it by myself... but i have no idea how to develope such a tool
some comments...
The diamond's back is not that flat and it rocks when u tap the two sides of the screen. So it might not be a good idea to use it as a leveling meter... even if it works...
Despite the non-flat back on the Diamond, I have found that it actually sits at an even keel quite stabl-y... If you press down on one side it won't stay even, but if you just set it down, it stays quite even. You can even test/confirm that with the accelerometer game it has built-in.
Software like that exists for iphone. Its called would you beleive it iLevel
It should be possible to do.
Brilliant idea!
Oh the T-Mobile and O2 versions are flat.
I wonder if anyone else can think of other useful accelerometer based software, apart from games.
How about a G force meter similar to the ones found in Nissan Skylines and as visual displays during an F1 race!
hi all,
i've seen this accelerometer based application for nokia n95, nokmote , develpped by a french phone forum member http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x3f4o8_nokmote_tech......
hope someone can do the same for wm devices with built in accelerometer
boodoo said:
hi all,
i've seen this accelerometer based application for nokia n95, nokmote , develpped by a french phone forum member http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x3f4o8_nokmote_tech......
hope someone can do the same for wm devices with built in accelerometer
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Nice application...hopefully someone could port it to WM.
Better yet (more useful) would be an Inclinometer... like this one on a K850
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-CsoHxeaSE
Pir8
Bump!
This thread needs reviving, come on developers, let’s see some funky accelerometer based apps. There is a potential customer base of what 3 or 4 million?
I have not tested it, but this is a java app that uses accelerometer enabled devices as an inclinometer. If you just want to test.... (i'm a total newbee on this scene, my phone has just arrived)
thats great! how abt a force meter like those u see on F1 cars like someone mentioned before? sure would be cool to measure lateral, acceleration and braking forces...better yet...it would be cool if it can measure 1/4 mile and 0-60 times..and horsepower if u input the weight of the car? I think theres something like that called car meter for nokia phones...can some genius out there do something like that?
the always up to date download can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407223
well, just a very simple and a little bit imprecise spirit-level/water-level...
just unzip the attached zip file and put the SpiritLevel.exe on the Diamond, then execute it
edit: now with sound feedback (can be switched on/off via menu)
There is a newer version in post #18
fxxxxxx said:
well, just a very simple and a little bit imprecise spirit-level/water-level...
just unzip the attached zip file and put the SpiritLevel.exe on the Diamond, then execute it
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works, but yeah a bit imprecise ;-)
guibrenande said:
I have not tested it, but this is a java app that uses accelerometer enabled devices as an inclinometer. If you just want to test.... (i'm a total newbee on this scene, my phone has just arrived)
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not working on my Diamond:
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError..
Too bad :-(
imranbashir_uk said:
Brilliant idea!
....
How about a G force meter similar to the ones found in Nissan Skylines and as visual displays during an F1 race!
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I really like the idea of this being combined with GPS tracking, I could then see where I am accelerating/braking the hardest, which roads and corners etc. Could be VERY usefull on a track day!
Now, if only I could link it to the data in my onboard computers ......
(thats almost worth learning to programing WM for)
the always up to date download can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407223
a little bit better performance for the spirit level, when sound is enabled.
so now it s fun enough to play with it. can maybe also used to see numerical how much the g-sensor should be calibrated.
edit: bow there is an option in the menu with which s short vibration can enabled, when the x or y axis is at 0 °
Thanks fxxxxxx!
Great tool.
Cheers!
and any solution for calibrate the device , using this way? i've read many thread about g-sensor calibrating problem. i've this problem . i've made a test with a real inclinometer and i can see 3° in horizontal axi and 11° in vertical axis. but it's not a software issue because it's always the same values. for me the calibrating is bad for my diamond.
(and my english to, sorry ^^)
I just bought a Diamond today and i noticed that the LED (placed by the speaker) doesn't do anything. It doesn't light when the phone is charging nor when the bluetooth is activated - is this a fault in the phone?
JESUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
How many people are gonna ask this question?
Why do people buy phones and not even know how to use them properly!!!
It`s not an LED it`s a light sensor...
johnboywilson said:
JESUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
How many people are gonna ask this question?
Why do people buy phones and not even know how to use them properly!!!
It`s not an LED it`s a light sensor...
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Sorry for my ignorance and thanks for your answer.
No problem...
Anything else you want to know?
uhm... isnt it a camera?
weblance said:
I just bought a Diamond today and i noticed that the LED (placed by the speaker) doesn't do anything. It doesn't light when the phone is charging nor when the bluetooth is activated - is this a fault in the phone?
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hahahahahahaa
sorry couldent help myself
neonlite said:
uhm... isnt it a camera?
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A camera, are you having a laugh????
i think he means the thing to the right...
i think it thant may well be a camera
om*g it is a camera, where the heck do you think the videoconferencing option is for.
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@neonlite: READ what was posted by the OP!
weblance said:
I just bought a Diamond today and i noticed that the LED (placed by the speaker) doesn't do anything. It doesn't light when the phone is charging nor when the bluetooth is activated - is this a fault in the phone?
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"placed by the speaker" <--Look towards the LEFT of the speaker, there is a little 'squarish' part there that is the light-sensor which detects ambiance to dim the LCD's brightness up/down according to the surrounding lighting.
where does it say, LEFT? it could be RIGHT?
the little camera is placed BY the speaker? now i placed a screenshot. thats all
@neonlite: Obviously one would think that the words "placed by" would indicate 'close to' or 'right next to'.. the front facing VGA camera is farther away from the speaker than the light sensor.
And which one looks more like an LED light? I think the OP is smart enough to make out that what you were referring to is a camera.
lies!
Couldn`t it be the light saber port?
klingklang113 said:
Couldn`t it be the light saber port?
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Arrrghhhhh, I tried a video call and sliced my ear off!
omg! did you record it?!
mods can close this topic, its solved now i think
after buying my Diamond i realised it doesnt have a 2nd camera...
the diamond u guys hav got does hav it...
but the 1s which hav come officially to india are without the 2nd camera ...
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No problem...
Anything else you want to know?
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Yes please: is it possible to add my own city to the HTC Weather?
... I know, I know . . . I'll try to search the forum
farzadus said:
after buying my Diamond i realised it doesnt have a 2nd camera...
the diamond u guys hav got does hav it...
but the 1s which hav come officially to india are without the 2nd camera ...
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The diamond sold in India is GSM only so the front VGA camera is not present because is supposed to be used for video call thru UMTS.
dalamario said:
The diamond sold in India is GSM only so the front VGA camera is not present because is supposed to be used for video call thru UMTS.
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but wat if i want to click my own pics????????
n CE4ARAB
http://www.ce4arab.com/vb7/showthread.php?t=123165
xxmen has showen his operation that he made 2 his Diamond
2 improve its sound
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U can C the shots n LNK above
hoping 2 know what he has done
he said that the sound has improved 200%
LNK 4 all shots >> http://www.zshare.net/download/1536825297b14e0e/
ENJOy
he said that the sound has improved 200%
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So, if it was 1/100 before, now it's 3/100. Interesting.
Also, I used babelfish to translate the link you gave, and the title of that page reads "how to turn an HTC diamond into an improvised bomb"... are you sure you're at the right forum ?
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So, if it was 1/100 before, now it's 3/100. Interesting.
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he expected 2 improve by 50% , but the result he acheved is better ,
and the Qualaty of sound had improved more than he expected .
I don't think most people here are ready to drill and tinker with their $700 phone anytime soon...though that's a pretty good mod.
you can also say bye to the warranty...
lude219 said:
I don't think most people here are ready to drill and tinker with their $700 phone anytime soon...though that's a pretty good mod.
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I wonder ,,, Why HTC did not thought of that ?
Next time use the search. Already done this and posted before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408776&highlight=sound
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you can also say bye to the warranty...
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But if you have installed any of the cooked ROMS using hard SPL, you have already said goodbye to your warranty anyway. So what is the difference ?
Olipro has described a method to revert to original ROM and SPL...just for those "warranty" issues. I'm sure I've read it into one of the Diamond ROM section topics, so there's no problem with that. But for this operation (described here to improve the sound), you have no return...though, I do believe it'll improving the sound a lot...but also it'll help to get a lot of dust inside your phone
Warranty? I would have thought you would just replace the cover with a new one should the need arise.... Anyway a somewhat interesting post, although the issue of dust and whatever else getting inside the phone has kind of turned me off unfortunately. Thanks for sharing.
i wont!
I wont do that to my phone!!
try and share your results ^^
check the whole thing on youtube (too bad its not a video, just a slide show with ENGLISH instructions)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lJoelghkH8
I applied this mod to my diamond and i can tell you that it WORKS ! The sound is much much LOUDER...Really !
Dr.Tenma said:
I applied this mod to my diamond and i can tell you that it WORKS ! The sound is much much LOUDER...Really !
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of course it works, and of course its louder
all ur doing is removing some of the shielding and case... is it really that hard to work out?
Warranty is now voided, and u will now have loads of **** in ur phone. congratulations.
I never listen to music/radio without my headphones... I have no doubt that it can improve the overall sound but... it's kinda barbaric + it leaves enough space for more dust and stuff... hope it works for you guys!
This looks nice, i bet the part with the 3 holes in the case it's not that necessary. Can someone who did this leave some feedback ?
While I'm sure this works I'm still not convinced that this is the only solution for the ****ty loudspeaker.
I know there is the audio something tweak which helps a bit, but for instances, some alerts such as my alarm (alarm 5) and my "you got message" alerts are shockingly loud, like scary loud.
But then you get the in call loudspeaker and the video playback which are whisper quiet. Frustrates the hell out of me
I'll do this once my Diamond is out of warranty.
If you are worried ab out dust getting in, just glue some kind of filter to the inside of the holes, such as womens stocking or fine mesh...it's not difficult
I'll do it to, after 1 year and 11 months )
There are many awesome hack on the software side!
Now let's see some hardware hacking... Especially mod to get the second camera on the tilt.
POST YOUR HARDWARE HACK PIXS HHAARRRR!
I will start with mine, nothing crazy really, just replaced the ugly AT&T silver keys with the original all black keys.
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I turned the flash off to get the light on the keyboard, but the LCD screen glares
I predict this thread may die .__.
The original AT&T keys was ripped out off the Tilt, got destroyed
Behind the keyboard keys is an adhesive (sticky) layer that sticked to...
The flex board, plastic keys with adhesive will be laid on top of this
(This is a broken flex that ripped out of the Tilt. This flex is permanently adhesive to the original qwerty housing, rip it out will break the flex, which I did... but I have another one so I am safe)
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I predict this thread may die .__.
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Yup!!!
I just want to encourage someone to hack the second camera on to the Tilt!!!
I wanna see it happen!!! PwEASE HACK THAT SECOND CAM, SOMEONE... without bricking the phone, ofcourse
I think a safer option would be to sell the Tilt and then buy a model that has the front camera.
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I think a safer option would be to sell the Tilt and then buy a model that has the front camera.
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That's not fun, beside ~ it's a better deal to get a Tilt for way cheaper, especially refurbished ~ then hack it
kaiser_user said:
Yup!!!
I just want to encourage someone to hack the second camera on to the Tilt!!!
I wanna see it happen!!! PwEASE HACK THAT SECOND CAM, SOMEONE... without bricking the phone, ofcourse
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AT&T doesn't support video calling.....
kaiserII101 said:
AT&T doesn't support video calling.....
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But it's still kool to have a front camera for self-shoot photos.
Branded phone are often a downgrade, from design to tech >: ( They either screw it up with bad colors ~ or downgrade something.
The T-Mobile version is so feminine ~ and AT&T decided to have silver keys in between black keys?!!! WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?!!!
I don't care what it is, it's just kool to unbrand a branded phone!!! Branded phones (modified by some non-artist-eyes marketing retard) are often not as kool as the original factory design.
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But it's still kool to have a front camera for self-shoot photos.
[...]
I don't care what it is, it's just kool to unbrand a branded phone!!!
Branded phones [...] are often not as kool as the original factory design.
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For all the people that want a cool phone
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Hehe.
I have an idea for you: Buy a TyTN II (with front camera). Dismantle it. Open your Tilt, remove everything, and drill a hole in the front plate. Take what was in the TytN II, put it in the Tilt case. There you'll have a modded Tilt with front camera
Or you could just keep the TyTN II.
On a more serious note:
Yup!!!
I just want to encourage someone to hack the second camera on to the Tilt!!!
I wanna see it happen!!! PwEASE HACK THAT SECOND CAM, SOMEONE... without bricking the phone, ofcourse
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There have already been numerous threads about it, and if all those who have had that idea gave up, there must be a reason. One is that front cams are pretty much impossible to find. Another if I remember well is that there's no connection for the cam in the Tilt anyway, so you'd have to replace enough components to end with what I was actually saying earlier, a TyTN II in a Tilt case.
In the end, why don't you just try it yourself if you want it so badly?
Well, spending for a TyTN is too expensive, spending on a Tilt make sense during this hard time. With the right mind and skill, I think anything is possible... next attempt, making the Kaiser into a Helio Duo slider ~ YEAH!!! LOL, jk ~ ... hrrmmm... maybe it's possible ... let's see...
RU high on caffeine or something? JK
I wouldn't call keyboard swapping a hack really... :/ additional ram, leds, irda, speakers, anything... but an ordinary swap one for another?? meh....
I for one think that this thread is a Good Thing®. It's nice to see people still doing things with the Tilt (and Kaiser in general). Some of us like the tilting screen!
Thanks kaiser_user, and let's see some more hacks!
Well.. I'm an electronics engineer, and hacking is nearly second nature for me... adding backlight control to HDTV, adding internal 3G modem to laptop, adding remote trigger to digicam,...
But my Kaiser is one of the very rare of my electronic devices that hasn't even been dismantled once. Simply because I wouldn't see what to do to it as it's fine for me as it is, I've had no problem with it, etc.
BTW, mine is a TyTN II with front camera, I got one because it was just frustrating me to buy a tilt without one... and I've never used it even once. So, it wouldn't be a hack I'd consider either...
Hi,
I trade out for an Eken M003 8" tablet running 1.6 on it. I can not stand it as of right now. I decided to do a tear down of it to see if it was indeed able to be upgraded. I have search all of the world wide web for anything on this, and so far I have found barely anything. I will be adding Pictures tomorrow.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this device, other than it is cheap? It has a wm8505 Chipset in it and a small ram chip as well. I am not advanced in the Hardware side of things, but I do like tearing apart..lol. I tried Wondermedia, and Via to try and buy another chipset for it, but I cant find one. Hell even if I can desolder the ram, I cant find anything to get back on it. One question I have is does the WM8505 chip actually contain the O.S. on it? If so what would happen if I did indeed replace it with a blank chip? Could I put an operating system of my choosing on it then? What if I increase ram from 128-1g? Lots of questions, and the only site I can find is Slatedroid, but it is non operational. I have a rooted Nexus and it is faster that this POS. I dont care what really happens to it, I just want to experiment. Any suggestions?
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wm8505 chipset found inside EKEN
Here is the wm8505 chipset I found inside the EKEN m003. Any suggestions?
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Wifi?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I just found tw6805 on everbuying.com,but i don't know whether it agree with yours.
The problem with these things is that, they are so cheap.... you cannot expect support. I really don't see the purpose of an Android tablet if you have an Android phone or a PC/Tablet PC
I agree about cheap, I didnt pay anything for it, I traded out something I didnt want for it. Really just wanting to try and upgrade it and see just how fast it is. I have a Nexus One that I love, and it is faster than this thing by far. Would be cool to stick in 1g memory, and 1ghz processor. Then I just have to learn how to port custom rom on it, and instant Bathroom fantastica!
take it apart
Hi tytngasman, how you dismantled it?
Do you have any suggestion?
I need to open it to check why the display looks garbaged.
Thanks.
roglio said:
Hi tytngasman, how you dismantled it?
Do you have any suggestion?
I need to open it to check why the display looks garbaged.
Thanks.
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There are 2 crews at the bottom, and an additional 2 screws under the bezel on the left and right side. Then just pop the tabs, and there you go!
Great! Thank you.
My M003 has got a very strange issue: if you push back the sim-like cpu card the display stop garbaging. If you leave it alone, all images are scrambled!
I was trying to glue the sim but is a no go...
In the meantime I broke the touch screen
Then... game over.
roglio said:
Great! Thank you.
My M003 has got a very strange issue: if you push back the sim-like cpu card the display stop garbaging. If you leave it alone, all images are scrambled!
I was trying to glue the sim but is a no go...
In the meantime I broke the touch screen
Then... game over.
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I dont understand what you are talking about with the glue. What sim-like cpu chip? The only removable thing on the board is the wm8505 chipset. It looks like a piece of Laptop Memory. Should have two silver clips on the board that it snaps into, and should be about 3 inches by 1.5 inches. do you have a pic of the part? also you can get another screen.
yes, the sodimm like card with the chipset.
if I push it, the screen is clean, if I leave it alone the screen is garbaged
I suppose that the problem must be related to wm chip itself (bad balls) or to the sodimm connector.
any suggestion?
ah! I just bought off ebay a touchscreen replacement for 15$ shipped.
roglio said:
yes, the sodimm like card with the chipset.
if I push it, the screen is clean, if I leave it alone the screen is garbaged
I suppose that the problem must be related to wm chip itself (bad balls) or to the sodimm connector.
any suggestion?
ah! I just bought off ebay a touchscreen replacement for 15$ shipped.
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i HOPE THAT WORKS FOR YOU, iF NOT SEND ME A PIC OF IT. Soldering is really easy though. If that is the problem, Also could be in the clips on the side. If you pulled out the chipset without first unclipping it, then it will not hold correctly.